Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]

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Who scorched Scotty?

Poll ended at Wed Dec 14, 2022 10:12 pm

Dennis
0
No votes
falcon45ca
0
No votes
fingersplints
1
6%
Golden
0
No votes
Neon (formerly jack shepherd)
0
No votes
RondoDimBuckle (formerly Bea)
2
13%
Roxy
6
38%
S~V~S
0
No votes
Seanzie
0
No votes
The CIA (host/mods/dead/non-player option)
7
44%
 
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 3]

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All I have seen from Seanzie in the past 24 hours has been riling up Neon.
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 3]

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Dennis wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:14 pm All I have seen from Seanzie in the past 24 hours has been riling up Neon.
See ‘riling up’ fits in the same category.

Why is it so hard to believe Seanzie just suspects neon and is just expressing that.
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 3]

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Post by Kate »

What do you think of this list?

Falcon
Splints
Neon
Mata
Rox
Scotty
Soneji
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 3]

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fingersplints wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:24 am @Roxy come back and play with me! I miss you
Gosh I have missed playing with you. We need to get our new Pirate game together!!

fingersplints wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 7:03 am
Roxy wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:57 am again no one engages while I'm here . Idk when I'll be back but sometime before elimination's end.
I feel this.
It’s honestly what always happens to me and then I get continually called out for low posting because everyone posts like crazy overnight for me
I would still get called out for low posting. Happens every time I play, every time I say this is the last time I'll play then Kate comes around begging the old gang to back together for a game and I get sucked in. WHOOSH!!!!!!!!!

Never again I mean it this time as I am so sick of people down on the way I play because I don't make a 100 posts a day saying:
XXXX Is a wolf
But this is my meta ask XXXX
When is eod
I'm cute
How old are you
Where in the *uck did you find those beets Dwight?
You dig?

FYI splints is not bad I will NOT vote for her.

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I am a low poster. I have never denied being a low poster. Being a low poster does mean I am not reading and keeping up.
Am am deffo not lhf as I consider myself more like a bunch of happy carrots. So I am more in the mud vegee's. imv for those of you who adore abbreviations.

The last day phase actually made me want to hurl and also made it so I do not want to even post in the thread. I am *trying* to get past all the awkwardness/weirdness/meaness in this supposed game thread. We are all people with feelings this game can get heated ---------why add to it?

Takes one 'fn second to be kind people.

I will now finish re-reading make my post and call this done.

Questions/posts I noticed so far:

Scotty said I seemed aggressive which I find funny as I am imv. What exactly in a post can you point me at to show my "aggression"?

Neon - welcome but you obv haven't read as much as you say you have. I have never been on a wagon nor voted in this game yet. Had you actually read the thread (and not just my posts but the hosts as well) you would have seen I self voted D 1 bc of a robbery at my work. I host voted D 2 bc of the Host punishment of self voting was to lose my vote. But actually if you read any of my posts I clearly state suspicions. Sorry if you don't like my style and want to lynch me for being imv I am used to it. Happens all the time on this site. However I do like you info then analysis of the voting thus far. So thanks for doing the leg work on that.
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 3]

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@Kate if I have one request for you, it’s that you look carefully at Seanzie’s handling of me through the game, and even if you don’t trust him that you trust me.

No I don’t know Sean is town for certain. But I feel real good about it, and I think there are good reasons why.
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 3]

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Roxy wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:25 pm
fingersplints wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:24 am @Roxy come back and play with me! I miss you
Gosh I have missed playing with you. We need to get our new Pirate game together!!

fingersplints wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 7:03 am
Roxy wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:57 am again no one engages while I'm here . Idk when I'll be back but sometime before elimination's end.
I feel this.
It’s honestly what always happens to me and then I get continually called out for low posting because everyone posts like crazy overnight for me
I would still get called out for low posting. Happens every time I play, every time I say this is the last time I'll play then Kate comes around begging the old gang to back together for a game and I get sucked in. WHOOSH!!!!!!!!!

Never again I mean it this time as I am so sick of people down on the way I play because I don't make a 100 posts a day saying:
XXXX Is a wolf
But this is my meta ask XXXX
When is eod
I'm cute
How old are you
Where in the *uck did you find those beets Dwight?
You dig?

FYI splints is not bad I will NOT vote for her.

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I am a low poster. I have never denied being a low poster. Being a low poster does mean I am not reading and keeping up.
Am am deffo not lhf as I consider myself more like a bunch of happy carrots. So I am more in the mud vegee's. imv for those of you who adore abbreviations.

The last day phase actually made me want to hurl and also made it so I do not want to even post in the thread. I am *trying* to get past all the awkwardness/weirdness/meaness in this supposed game thread. We are all people with feelings this game can get heated ---------why add to it?

Takes one 'fn second to be kind people.

I will now finish re-reading make my post and call this done.

Questions/posts I noticed so far:

Scotty said I seemed aggressive which I find funny as I am imv. What exactly in a post can you point me at to show my "aggression"?

Neon - welcome but you obv haven't read as much as you say you have. I have never been on a wagon nor voted in this game yet. Had you actually read the thread (and not just my posts but the hosts as well) you would have seen I self voted D 1 bc of a robbery at my work. I host voted D 2 bc of the Host punishment of self voting was to lose my vote. But actually if you read any of my posts I clearly state suspicions. Sorry if you don't like my style and want to lynch me for being imv I am used to it. Happens all the time on this site. However I do like you info then analysis of the voting thus far. So thanks for doing the leg work on that.
Rox what makes you so sure about splints?
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 3]

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Roxy you’re here! I’m so glad! I can’t wait for more of your thoughts.
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 3]

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Kate wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:25 pm What do you think of this list?

Falcon
Splints
Neon
Mata
Rox
Scotty
Soneji
I think that list is everyone who could be wolf unless I’ve been properly pocketed.
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 3]

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Also btw I back up that Roxy mata and bea are usually lower posters but they bring it with the posts they make.
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 3]

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Golden wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:19 pm
Dennis wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:14 pm All I have seen from Seanzie in the past 24 hours has been riling up Neon.
See ‘riling up’ fits in the same category.

Why is it so hard to believe Seanzie just suspects neon and is just expressing that.
Because the reasons are bad and based on nothing and Seanzie's iso speaks for itself as does the fact I've asked you thrice now to show me something anything from Seanzie that proves that they are town and you haven't

I just looked through the iso.

It's a whole hell of a lot of nothing intermixed with awful pushes onto townies. I find it odd that Sean didn't see how glaringly town Sabi was when he certainly has enough experience with Sabi to realize what I realized.

I find it odd that Sean continues to espouse scum reads on just about everyone I think is blatantly town.

Sean is pushing me in bad faith. Sean is silencing me because my data was pointing towards the fact that he as scum and he had to silence me. The best way to do that, gaslighting and that's exactly what's happening because Sean has pushed a narrative of IIOA and whatever when I've pushed the hardest into looking for answers and now instead of continuing to look into answers in forced into this thread derailment defense because of nothing. And someone who thought I was glaringly town just decided to follow the gut of someone else for no reason so let's talk about Golden

Why is Golden allying work Sean so hard? Hard enough that if you go through Sean's iso you see Sean mention a fear of being WKd by Golden. Why is Golden echoing every belief Sean has? Why is Golden ignoring their own takes to sheep Sean's gut? The deeper I dug into Sean the worse I think Golden looks and I'm wondering if I've been wrong all along.

I doubt it's Sean and Golden. And Golden has taken this and run further.
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 3]

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hmmmmm
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 3]

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Golden wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:31 pm
Kate wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:25 pm What do you think of this list?

Falcon
Splints
Neon
Mata
Rox
Scotty
Soneji
I think that list is everyone who could be wolf unless I’ve been properly pocketed.
Ok so if we give some credence to Rox showing up and posting, we temporarily remove rox and splints. I'm not crazy about voting Neon. And I know Mata has been very sick so I'm not comfortable going there today.

That leaves:

Scotty
Soneji and
Falcon.

What do you think of that list?
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 3]

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i've iso'ed neon from another game just to make sure and she's very different here, i'm confident in calling her town here
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 3]

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Dennis wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:14 pm All I have seen from Seanzie in the past 24 hours has been riling up Neon.
Now do you think riling up a player and derailing the thread is town or scum indicator?
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 3]

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Neon wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:34 pm
Golden wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:19 pm
Dennis wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:14 pm All I have seen from Seanzie in the past 24 hours has been riling up Neon.
See ‘riling up’ fits in the same category.

Why is it so hard to believe Seanzie just suspects neon and is just expressing that.
Because the reasons are bad and based on nothing and Seanzie's iso speaks for itself as does the fact I've asked you thrice now to show me something anything from Seanzie that proves that they are town and you haven't

I just looked through the iso.

It's a whole hell of a lot of nothing intermixed with awful pushes onto townies. I find it odd that Sean didn't see how glaringly town Sabi was when he certainly has enough experience with Sabi to realize what I realized.

I find it odd that Sean continues to espouse scum reads on just about everyone I think is blatantly town.

Sean is pushing me in bad faith. Sean is silencing me because my data was pointing towards the fact that he as scum and he had to silence me. The best way to do that, gaslighting and that's exactly what's happening because Sean has pushed a narrative of IIOA and whatever when I've pushed the hardest into looking for answers and now instead of continuing to look into answers in forced into this thread derailment defense because of nothing. And someone who thought I was glaringly town just decided to follow the gut of someone else for no reason so let's talk about Golden

Why is Golden allying work Sean so hard? Hard enough that if you go through Sean's iso you see Sean mention a fear of being WKd by Golden. Why is Golden echoing every belief Sean has? Why is Golden ignoring their own takes to sheep Sean's gut? The deeper I dug into Sean the worse I think Golden looks and I'm wondering if I've been wrong all along.

I doubt it's Sean and Golden. And Golden has taken this and run further.
Lol the worse I look? Ya dreamin.

I am ‘echoing every belief Sean has?’ - I sheeped him once to see what came out.
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 3]

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Post by ☆Princess Abigail☆ »

Kate wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:34 pm
Golden wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:31 pm
Kate wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:25 pm What do you think of this list?

Falcon
Splints
Neon
Mata
Rox
Scotty
Soneji
I think that list is everyone who could be wolf unless I’ve been properly pocketed.
Ok so if we give some credence to Rox showing up and posting, we temporarily remove rox and splints. I'm not crazy about voting Neon. And I know Mata has been very sick so I'm not comfortable going there today.

That leaves:

Scotty
Soneji and
Falcon.

What do you think of that list?
I think at least 2 of these players are less likely to be wolf than other players in this game and one is well within town ranges that I've seen from them even if it appears to be weird and wolfu.
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 3]

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Neon wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:37 pm
Kate wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:34 pm
Golden wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:31 pm
Kate wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:25 pm What do you think of this list?

Falcon
Splints
Neon
Mata
Rox
Scotty
Soneji
I think that list is everyone who could be wolf unless I’ve been properly pocketed.
Ok so if we give some credence to Rox showing up and posting, we temporarily remove rox and splints. I'm not crazy about voting Neon. And I know Mata has been very sick so I'm not comfortable going there today.

That leaves:

Scotty
Soneji and
Falcon.

What do you think of that list?
I think at least 2 of these players are less likely to be wolf than other players in this game and one is well within town ranges that I've seen from them even if it appears to be weird and wolfu.
Which 2?
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 3]

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Kate wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:34 pm
Golden wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:31 pm
Kate wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:25 pm What do you think of this list?

Falcon
Splints
Neon
Mata
Rox
Scotty
Soneji
I think that list is everyone who could be wolf unless I’ve been properly pocketed.
Ok so if we give some credence to Rox showing up and posting, we temporarily remove rox and splints. I'm not crazy about voting Neon. And I know Mata has been very sick so I'm not comfortable going there today.

That leaves:

Scotty
Soneji and
Falcon.

What do you think of that list?
I wouldn’t eliminate scotty today, especially with him hiking.

Id happily elim soneji or Falcon. But I’m prioritising not letting Sean get elimmed.
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 3]

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Post by ☆Princess Abigail☆ »

Golden wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:37 pm
Neon wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:34 pm
Golden wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:19 pm
Dennis wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:14 pm All I have seen from Seanzie in the past 24 hours has been riling up Neon.
See ‘riling up’ fits in the same category.

Why is it so hard to believe Seanzie just suspects neon and is just expressing that.
Because the reasons are bad and based on nothing and Seanzie's iso speaks for itself as does the fact I've asked you thrice now to show me something anything from Seanzie that proves that they are town and you haven't

I just looked through the iso.

It's a whole hell of a lot of nothing intermixed with awful pushes onto townies. I find it odd that Sean didn't see how glaringly town Sabi was when he certainly has enough experience with Sabi to realize what I realized.

I find it odd that Sean continues to espouse scum reads on just about everyone I think is blatantly town.

Sean is pushing me in bad faith. Sean is silencing me because my data was pointing towards the fact that he as scum and he had to silence me. The best way to do that, gaslighting and that's exactly what's happening because Sean has pushed a narrative of IIOA and whatever when I've pushed the hardest into looking for answers and now instead of continuing to look into answers in forced into this thread derailment defense because of nothing. And someone who thought I was glaringly town just decided to follow the gut of someone else for no reason so let's talk about Golden

Why is Golden allying work Sean so hard? Hard enough that if you go through Sean's iso you see Sean mention a fear of being WKd by Golden. Why is Golden echoing every belief Sean has? Why is Golden ignoring their own takes to sheep Sean's gut? The deeper I dug into Sean the worse I think Golden looks and I'm wondering if I've been wrong all along.

I doubt it's Sean and Golden. And Golden has taken this and run further.
Lol the worse I look? Ya dreamin.

I am ‘echoing every belief Sean has?’ - I sheeped him once to see what came out.
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High-Risk High-Reward (Day 2+, 1-shot, Immediate): Spend 6 Snapvote Charges, post Fuck it we ball glgl in bold red text, and ping a player. (When you use this ability, you should also inform the hosts privately.) If they are Town, you will strongman die. Otherwise, you will strongman kill that player. This action resolves instantly.
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 3]

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Kate wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:39 pm
Neon wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:37 pm
Kate wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:34 pm
Golden wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:31 pm
Kate wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:25 pm What do you think of this list?

Falcon
Splints
Neon
Mata
Rox
Scotty
Soneji
I think that list is everyone who could be wolf unless I’ve been properly pocketed.
Ok so if we give some credence to Rox showing up and posting, we temporarily remove rox and splints. I'm not crazy about voting Neon. And I know Mata has been very sick so I'm not comfortable going there today.

That leaves:

Scotty
Soneji and
Falcon.

What do you think of that list?
I think at least 2 of these players are less likely to be wolf than other players in this game and one is well within town ranges that I've seen from them even if it appears to be weird and wolfu.
Which 2?
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Neon wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:41 pm
Golden wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:37 pm
Neon wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:34 pm
Golden wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:19 pm
Dennis wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:14 pm All I have seen from Seanzie in the past 24 hours has been riling up Neon.
See ‘riling up’ fits in the same category.

Why is it so hard to believe Seanzie just suspects neon and is just expressing that.
Because the reasons are bad and based on nothing and Seanzie's iso speaks for itself as does the fact I've asked you thrice now to show me something anything from Seanzie that proves that they are town and you haven't

I just looked through the iso.

It's a whole hell of a lot of nothing intermixed with awful pushes onto townies. I find it odd that Sean didn't see how glaringly town Sabi was when he certainly has enough experience with Sabi to realize what I realized.

I find it odd that Sean continues to espouse scum reads on just about everyone I think is blatantly town.

Sean is pushing me in bad faith. Sean is silencing me because my data was pointing towards the fact that he as scum and he had to silence me. The best way to do that, gaslighting and that's exactly what's happening because Sean has pushed a narrative of IIOA and whatever when I've pushed the hardest into looking for answers and now instead of continuing to look into answers in forced into this thread derailment defense because of nothing. And someone who thought I was glaringly town just decided to follow the gut of someone else for no reason so let's talk about Golden

Why is Golden allying work Sean so hard? Hard enough that if you go through Sean's iso you see Sean mention a fear of being WKd by Golden. Why is Golden echoing every belief Sean has? Why is Golden ignoring their own takes to sheep Sean's gut? The deeper I dug into Sean the worse I think Golden looks and I'm wondering if I've been wrong all along.

I doubt it's Sean and Golden. And Golden has taken this and run further.
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 3]

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Golden wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:39 pm
Kate wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:34 pm
Golden wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:31 pm
Kate wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:25 pm What do you think of this list?

Falcon
Splints
Neon
Mata
Rox
Scotty
Soneji
I think that list is everyone who could be wolf unless I’ve been properly pocketed.
Ok so if we give some credence to Rox showing up and posting, we temporarily remove rox and splints. I'm not crazy about voting Neon. And I know Mata has been very sick so I'm not comfortable going there today.

That leaves:

Scotty
Soneji and
Falcon.

What do you think of that list?
I wouldn’t eliminate scotty today, especially with him hiking.

Id happily elim soneji or Falcon. But I’m prioritising not letting Sean get elimmed.
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I think the lesson I am going to learn from this game is fuck contributing

I can just post nothing all game read the thread so nothing randomly exclaim someone town is a wolf lie about it till the thread believes me even though I've done nothing all game and still be town read and hard defended

But when you put in effort and bother to analyze its meaningless.
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We just need to remember that vote cancelling power.

We need to come to a consensus as much as possible. There are people I won’t vote for, but otherwise I’m flexible, tbh.
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Ok. I'm moving my vote to [VOTE: soneji] aubergine

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A consensus is bad
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Kate wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:46 pm Ok. I'm moving my vote to [VOTE: soneji] aubergine

Thoughts?
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[VOTE: Sonej] aubergine

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i've revised my stance though, i'm fine with a seanzie/scotty vote and i refuse to vote for svs/golden
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Neon wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:46 pm A consensus is bad
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i won't vote for mata bc the slot will sub out and i can read the other, more active, person with more content better (presumably)

splits and sonej are very attractive votes
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Neon wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:46 pm A consensus is bad
One of the woof roles cancels two votes. We need to get one today. Unless we can come up with tempo people MOST of us agree on.

I disagree that Sean is bad. I would prefer to surpass any votes on him as much as possible.

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Allow me to explain my frustration a bit

Ever since my wolf game I've been getting called a wolf no matter how hard I obv town. Okay I'm a good wolf I'll say it but that doesn't mean blindly ignore the behavior in front of you. The paranoia is frustrating. At least when Mac said what he said in that quote there was a reason for it I eod things that were decidedly anti town. I haven't here and still I'm being pushed.

But than I'm not even being pushed for MY play I'm being pushed because a new player who didn't like the game subbed out and Sean has decided that automatically makes them a wolf. I don't think you should be allowed to read into anyone but my play. I think subs should be judged on their track record. Sean has spent the last page and a half saying Jack behaved like a new wolf. The fixation on Jack is frustrating especially because I think that's all Sean can say because their reasons for pushing me on my play were weak and they don't hold water. So now I'm forced to defend myself against the mental of a person I am not because Sean is trying to read into their mental state and it is a physical impossibility for me to defend myself on that and Sean knows it.
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Neon wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:45 pm I think the lesson I am going to learn from this game is fuck contributing

I can just post nothing all game read the thread so nothing randomly exclaim someone town is a wolf lie about it till the thread believes me even though I've done nothing all game and still be town read and hard defended

But when you put in effort and bother to analyze its meaningless.
I’ve done a metric fuckton of analysing and contributing this game.

You don’t agree with my analysis and contribution therefore you think I’m bad.

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Golden wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:52 pm
Neon wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:46 pm A consensus is bad
Why?
Because it gives us no info no competing wagons to read into no reason movement to read into and its far more likely that a consensus kill kills town

Look at Sabi a run away wagon. What did they flip?

Two competing wagons always.
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Neon wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:56 pm
Golden wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:52 pm
Neon wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:46 pm A consensus is bad
Why?
Because it gives us no info no competing wagons to read into no reason movement to read into and its far more likely that a consensus kill kills town

Look at Sabi a run away wagon. What did they flip?

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Neon wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:54 pm Allow me to explain my frustration a bit

Ever since my wolf game I've been getting called a wolf no matter how hard I obv town. Okay I'm a good wolf I'll say it but that doesn't mean blindly ignore the behavior in front of you. The paranoia is frustrating. At least when Mac said what he said in that quote there was a reason for it I eod things that were decidedly anti town. I haven't here and still I'm being pushed.

But than I'm not even being pushed for MY play I'm being pushed because a new player who didn't like the game subbed out and Sean has decided that automatically makes them a wolf. I don't think you should be allowed to read into anyone but my play. I think subs should be judged on their track record. Sean has spent the last page and a half saying Jack behaved like a new wolf. The fixation on Jack is frustrating especially because I think that's all Sean can say because their reasons for pushing me on my play were weak and they don't hold water. So now I'm forced to defend myself against the mental of a person I am not because Sean is trying to read into their mental state and it is a physical impossibility for me to defend myself on that and Sean knows it.
The fixation on Jack is also ridiculous seeing as how I've said multiple times he didn't like it. @Kate , what are you doing? Help me out here.
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 3]

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S~V~S wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:52 pm
Neon wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:46 pm A consensus is bad
One of the woof roles cancels two votes. We need to get one today. Unless we can come up with tempo people MOST of us agree on.

I disagree that Sean is bad. I would prefer to surpass any votes on him as much as possible.

Would you consider a Soneji vote?
Sure I'd consider it.

Living in fear of the vote cancel plays into the hand of the woofs though. We can't pick one person to run up it is inherently anti town. If a wagon runs away I will not ever be on it
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Golden wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:56 pm
Neon wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:45 pm I think the lesson I am going to learn from this game is fuck contributing

I can just post nothing all game read the thread so nothing randomly exclaim someone town is a wolf lie about it till the thread believes me even though I've done nothing all game and still be town read and hard defended

But when you put in effort and bother to analyze its meaningless.
I’ve done a metric fuckton of analysing and contributing this game.

You don’t agree with my analysis and contribution therefore you think I’m bad.

Do you think contributing should get a pass?
I'm most certainly talking about Sean the person I've been on for two days
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lucy wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:51 pm i've revised my stance though, i'm fine with a seanzie/scotty vote and i refuse to vote for svs/golden
You’re on my No Vote list for today, too. I want to see how today goes. It may be time to revise *my* fixation.
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Dennis wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:57 pm
Neon wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:54 pm Allow me to explain my frustration a bit

Ever since my wolf game I've been getting called a wolf no matter how hard I obv town. Okay I'm a good wolf I'll say it but that doesn't mean blindly ignore the behavior in front of you. The paranoia is frustrating. At least when Mac said what he said in that quote there was a reason for it I eod things that were decidedly anti town. I haven't here and still I'm being pushed.

But than I'm not even being pushed for MY play I'm being pushed because a new player who didn't like the game subbed out and Sean has decided that automatically makes them a wolf. I don't think you should be allowed to read into anyone but my play. I think subs should be judged on their track record. Sean has spent the last page and a half saying Jack behaved like a new wolf. The fixation on Jack is frustrating especially because I think that's all Sean can say because their reasons for pushing me on my play were weak and they don't hold water. So now I'm forced to defend myself against the mental of a person I am not because Sean is trying to read into their mental state and it is a physical impossibility for me to defend myself on that and Sean knows it.
The fixation on Jack is also ridiculous seeing as how I've said multiple times he didn't like it. @Kate , what are you doing? Help me out here.
I don't feel that neon's behavior has been wolfy. Others feel differently so I was going back to jack to try to sure up my feelings on the slot. I figured who better to try to do that than you and me?
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S~V~S wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:00 pm
lucy wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:51 pm i've revised my stance though, i'm fine with a seanzie/scotty vote and i refuse to vote for svs/golden
You’re on my No Vote list for today, too. I want to see how today goes. It may be time to revise *my* fixation.
that's good, to clarify you want the lead wagon to have +3 votes before day ends?
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Neon wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:56 pm
Golden wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:52 pm
Neon wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:46 pm A consensus is bad
Why?
Because it gives us no info no competing wagons to read into no reason movement to read into and its far more likely that a consensus kill kills town

Look at Sabi a run away wagon. What did they flip?

Two competing wagons always.
Two votes can be deleted today. Don’t you see that as a problem?
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Kate wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:00 pm
Dennis wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:57 pm
Neon wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:54 pm Allow me to explain my frustration a bit

Ever since my wolf game I've been getting called a wolf no matter how hard I obv town. Okay I'm a good wolf I'll say it but that doesn't mean blindly ignore the behavior in front of you. The paranoia is frustrating. At least when Mac said what he said in that quote there was a reason for it I eod things that were decidedly anti town. I haven't here and still I'm being pushed.

But than I'm not even being pushed for MY play I'm being pushed because a new player who didn't like the game subbed out and Sean has decided that automatically makes them a wolf. I don't think you should be allowed to read into anyone but my play. I think subs should be judged on their track record. Sean has spent the last page and a half saying Jack behaved like a new wolf. The fixation on Jack is frustrating especially because I think that's all Sean can say because their reasons for pushing me on my play were weak and they don't hold water. So now I'm forced to defend myself against the mental of a person I am not because Sean is trying to read into their mental state and it is a physical impossibility for me to defend myself on that and Sean knows it.
The fixation on Jack is also ridiculous seeing as how I've said multiple times he didn't like it. @Kate , what are you doing? Help me out here.
I don't feel that neon's behavior has been wolfy. Others feel differently so I was going back to jack to try to sure up my feelings on the slot. I figured who better to try to do that than you and me?
Yeah... that's my point. You know as well as I do Jack wasn't a very willing participant. Having you, who is in practically everyone's towncore, attest that Jack's behavior wasn't influenced by his role would help prove Neon's towniness, no?
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Neon wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:15 pm
Kate wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:15 am
Neon wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:28 am D1:

Wilgz (6): marmot, golden, seanzie, Dennis, svs, Lucy

Seanzie (5): Kate, Wilgz, Neon, Sabi, Scotty

Splints (1): Bea

Golden (1): Falcon

Roxy (1): Roxy





D2:

Sabi (7): Sean, Kate, Scotty, Golden, Mata, Lucy, SVS

Lucy (3): Splints, Dennis, Soneji

Golden (1): Sabi

Seanzie (1): Neon

Someji (1): Falcon



Never been wagoned at EoD (8): Bea, Dennis, Falcon, Neon, Kate, Mata, SVS, Scotty

People on both Maj wagons (4): Golden, Sean, SVS, Lucy

People only on Wilgz (1): Dennis

People only on Sabi (3): Kate, Scotty, Mata

People never on the Maj wagon (4): Neon, Bea, Falcon, Roxy
I really like this post. What can we do with it? Neon I'm so glad you're here. Don't worry @S~V~S and @Golden I still fangirl you two topsies but neon has entered the chat... :blush:
To go further into what I personally think we can get out of this and what I'm looking at personally when I analyze the raw data

I think there's never more than 1 wolf that votes on both maj wagons so at most there's one in Golden, Sean, SVS, Lucy

I TR SVS and Lucy so I think at most one in Sean and Golden and would you look at that this last page solidified that for me lol. It's possible it's none though.

I think there's 1 on Wilgz at least but probably exactly one unless Sean is wolf. Which is one in golden, seanzie, Dennis, svs, Lucy. Which continues that same trend.

Regardless of Sean's alignment I think there's no more than one in Kate Myself and Scotty and probably exactly one in all scenarios.

I think there's a wolf in the 8 who have never has a vote at EoD which is just duh Level analysis but whatever at least one in Bea, Dennis, Falcon, Neon, Kate, Mata, SVS, Scotty


At most one in the group who have never made a stand Neon, Bea, Falcon, Roxy.


I think there's only ever one in Kate, Scotty, Mata

And i think Dennis might be the deep wolf and if Sean flips Red I'm going all in on Dennis.

Is that analysis enough for you Sean?
golden, seanzie, Dennis, svs, Lucy of these I think the most likely hit is Sean

Kate Myself and Scotty of these I think the most likely hit is Scotty

Bea, Dennis, Falcon, Neon, Kate, Mata, SVS, Scotty of these I think the most likely hit is Mata followed by Scotty

Neon, Bea, Falcon, Roxy of these I think the most likely hit is a toss up of Roxy/Falcon but honestly I think none

Kate, Scotty, Mata of these I think the most likely hit is Scotty

So logic should dictate that I choose to hit in Sean/ Scotty/Mata
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 3]

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Neon wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:45 pm I think the lesson I am going to learn from this game is fuck contributing

I can just post nothing all game read the thread so nothing randomly exclaim someone town is a wolf lie about it till the thread believes me even though I've done nothing all game and still be town read and hard defended

But when you put in effort and bother to analyze its meaningless.
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Kate wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:25 pm What do you think of this list?

Falcon
Splints
Neon
Mata
Rox
Scotty
Soneji

I don't deserve a break bc I posted today, I only deserve a break if my post says something you agree with.

falcon - I like his style tbs I do feel good vibes about his posts, I do not always agree with what he says but I am not getting the vibe that his susp are coming from a bad place.

splints - she is townie bc of her haphazard style is in full swing when she is bad she does NOTHING haphazardly. She is all over the map and wanting to save herself screams townie splints. When bad she is more of - you will be sorry at days end/ you have got me so wrong/ you cannot read me/ have we ever played together before vibe.

Neon already posted about them see previous post.

Mata - I feel those who want to give her pass (hell I am one of them). She is just not as in depth as normal - due rl I believe. I feel like I have never read her right as she comes at the game from a completely random angle that I have never fully understood but she is a brilliant player. I am just not sure here. All I can say idk.

Scotty - I said before his game feels diff than the anni g 1 I read along with. Not sure if it is the gym or his hikes I believe we only played together once or twice and it's been awhile since I have played but he just does seem to be as engaged as normal.

Soneji - a fellow low poster and I have read their posts but I am not sure what to make of them. I am not one to led around by other players stating ---- that's their meta/ that's nai/ when they played as a wolf they did this ---- I like to make my own mind up. GTH I would say civ.

Not sure I got anywhere in my head with this post but you asked and I wanted to answer even if it was to someone else.
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 3]

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Neon wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:45 pm I think the lesson I am going to learn from this game is fuck contributing

I can just post nothing all game read the thread so nothing randomly exclaim someone town is a wolf lie about it till the thread believes me even though I've done nothing all game and still be town read and hard defended

But when you put in effort and bother to analyze its meaningless.
So, I'm town?
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 3]

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Golden wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:03 pm
Neon wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:56 pm
Golden wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:52 pm
Neon wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:46 pm A consensus is bad
Why?
Because it gives us no info no competing wagons to read into no reason movement to read into and its far more likely that a consensus kill kills town

Look at Sabi a run away wagon. What did they flip?

Two competing wagons always.
Two votes can be deleted today. Don’t you see that as a problem?
No i don't I think trying to push fear into our solve today is only beneficial to wolfs. If we push one consensus person and they flip town we've gained nothing if we push two wagons and the one with less votes goes over because of vote cancels we have DATA. and we also have a smaller field to read into who's votes were canceled which is also beneficial

One wagon is never ever ever helpful to town.
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 3]

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Dennis wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:03 pm
Kate wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:00 pm
Dennis wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:57 pm
Neon wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:54 pm Allow me to explain my frustration a bit

Ever since my wolf game I've been getting called a wolf no matter how hard I obv town. Okay I'm a good wolf I'll say it but that doesn't mean blindly ignore the behavior in front of you. The paranoia is frustrating. At least when Mac said what he said in that quote there was a reason for it I eod things that were decidedly anti town. I haven't here and still I'm being pushed.

But than I'm not even being pushed for MY play I'm being pushed because a new player who didn't like the game subbed out and Sean has decided that automatically makes them a wolf. I don't think you should be allowed to read into anyone but my play. I think subs should be judged on their track record. Sean has spent the last page and a half saying Jack behaved like a new wolf. The fixation on Jack is frustrating especially because I think that's all Sean can say because their reasons for pushing me on my play were weak and they don't hold water. So now I'm forced to defend myself against the mental of a person I am not because Sean is trying to read into their mental state and it is a physical impossibility for me to defend myself on that and Sean knows it.
The fixation on Jack is also ridiculous seeing as how I've said multiple times he didn't like it. @Kate , what are you doing? Help me out here.
I don't feel that neon's behavior has been wolfy. Others feel differently so I was going back to jack to try to sure up my feelings on the slot. I figured who better to try to do that than you and me?
Yeah... that's my point. You know as well as I do Jack wasn't a very willing participant. Having you, who is in practically everyone's towncore, attest that Jack's behavior wasn't influenced by his role would help prove Neon's towniness, no?
I was trying to see if you felt that his behavior would have been different WITH the added pressure of a baddie chatroom. Youre essentially reversing my point.

To be clear: I think if Jack had a baddie role, he would have tried harder because of the pressure of teammates in a chat. Therefore, I find it unlikely Jack was bad.
Andrew wrote: Wed May 29, 2013 6:47 pm I'm voting llama again because I think I heard him say something that looks like proof.
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