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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:47 pm
by staypositivefriend
all of my posts are convincing

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:48 pm
by staypositivefriend
the bulk of the reasoning i have to townread lime coke ultimately boils down to: "meta", and while i feel strongly about it, there's only so many times i can jump up and down and declare that LC is town based off of highly specific meta reasons before it becomes redundant

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:49 pm
by Gira
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:46 pm counterpoint: you're not being convincing right now
lmao

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:49 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
ok I'm now prepared to lose the game to LC if both Alexa and SPF are and I just think I have to live with that. In which case, Gira, get on my page.

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:52 pm
by Gira
i reread crichard, i forgot he had posted as much as he did

still think probably town though i admittedly have no idea how to judge his analysis because the conclusions he draws are so simplistic

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:52 pm
by Gira
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:49 pm ok I'm now prepared to lose the game to LC if both Alexa and SPF are and I just think I have to live with that. In which case, Gira, get on my page.
i mean nominally at least one of them should be mafia fypov so

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:53 pm
by staypositivefriend
every post that TSP makes toward gira feels like it was explicitly made with the intent to pocket him

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:53 pm
by Gira
i'm mostly going on emotional stuff from him which is maybe not the best process but he's a weird dude and his particular salt at times in this game didn't seem fake

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:53 pm
by alexa
im not willing to lose to LC but i have enough reason to believe he's town that this is something i wouldn't deal with before F3

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:55 pm
by staypositivefriend
Gira wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:53 pm i'm mostly going on emotional stuff from him which is maybe not the best process but he's a weird dude and his particular salt at times in this game didn't seem fake
fwiw i think that his salt regarding the stuff with esooa was very real regardless of his alignment. i wrestled back and forth on whether or not that made him town but i don't personally find it to be a compelling reason

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:55 pm
by Lime Coke
staypositivefriend wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:42 pm
Gira wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:41 pm but process-wise i am staunchly against waiting until the last minute for the first vote in ELO
yeah that's fair, i believe very strongly that people should wait at ~least 24 hours before voting in LYLO in 99% of situations, but we're at a point where i wouldnt really be mad if someone ended up voting because it feels like the thread is in somewhat of a stalemate

that said, if youre town then i dont really think that LC is the right vote. not sure how to convince you otherwise
Either you and TSP or you and Alexa.

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:57 pm
by alexa
Lime Coke wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:55 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:42 pm
Gira wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:41 pm but process-wise i am staunchly against waiting until the last minute for the first vote in ELO
yeah that's fair, i believe very strongly that people should wait at ~least 24 hours before voting in LYLO in 99% of situations, but we're at a point where i wouldnt really be mad if someone ended up voting because it feels like the thread is in somewhat of a stalemate

that said, if youre town then i dont really think that LC is the right vote. not sure how to convince you otherwise
Either you and TSP or you and Alexa.
so you're lock on SPF wolf?

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:57 pm
by Lime Coke
Actually you and Alexa doesn't make sense either because she took my scumcase on you and ran with it so maybe not?

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:58 pm
by Lime Coke
alexa wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:57 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:55 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:42 pm
Gira wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:41 pm but process-wise i am staunchly against waiting until the last minute for the first vote in ELO
yeah that's fair, i believe very strongly that people should wait at ~least 24 hours before voting in LYLO in 99% of situations, but we're at a point where i wouldnt really be mad if someone ended up voting because it feels like the thread is in somewhat of a stalemate

that said, if youre town then i dont really think that LC is the right vote. not sure how to convince you otherwise
Either you and TSP or you and Alexa.
so you're lock on SPF wolf?
I'm about 65% there.

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:59 pm
by alexa
a trigger-happy part of me wants to vote SPF to avoid a gira/LC cross but lol i'm
kind of in a mental state tonight that makes it better-off i vote tomorrow

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:59 pm
by staypositivefriend
lol well we probably just lose this game then

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:00 pm
by staypositivefriend
lime coke do you even have any reasons to wolfread me or does it just boil down to: "everyone else is townier"?

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:03 pm
by Lime Coke
staypositivefriend wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:00 pm lime coke do you even have any reasons to wolfread me or does it just boil down to: "everyone else is townier"?
Early game stuff and "zomg everyone else is townier."

God dammit that's probably wrong too...

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:04 pm
by staypositivefriend
honestly the fact that youre pushing on me is making me paranoid as fuck about you even though it probably shouldnt

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:05 pm
by Lime Coke
Is Gira mafia that thinks he can get me ML'd? He wouldn't be that foolish to leave SPF and Alexa alive with me if we are all town, right?

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:05 pm
by Lime Coke
staypositivefriend wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:04 pm honestly the fact that youre pushing on me is making me paranoid as fuck about you even though it probably shouldnt
Valid but it would be wrong to do so.

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:06 pm
by Lime Coke
Is TSP mafia that is also trying to get me ML'd? One of them could be, right?

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:08 pm
by staypositivefriend
Lime Coke wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:05 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:04 pm honestly the fact that youre pushing on me is making me paranoid as fuck about you even though it probably shouldnt
Valid but it would be wrong to do so.
all i can say is that if i was in this position as a wolf right now i would either be pushing on your or subtly trying to get gira to vote for you instead of calling you town and explicitly telling gira that i think you're a bad vote. if you/gira don't end up crossing today then it looks increasingly likely that i will get voted and killed, so in any world i would be playing completely unstrategically as a wolf right now

the only world where this strategy would make sense if is me/gira are teamed with each other

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:10 pm
by Lime Coke
staypositivefriend wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:08 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:05 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:04 pm honestly the fact that youre pushing on me is making me paranoid as fuck about you even though it probably shouldnt
Valid but it would be wrong to do so.
all i can say is that if i was in this position as a wolf right now i would either be pushing on your or subtly trying to get gira to vote for you instead of calling you town and explicitly telling gira that i think you're a bad vote. if you/gira don't end up crossing today then it looks increasingly likely that i will get voted and killed, so in any world i would be playing completely unstrategically as a wolf right now

the only world where this strategy would make sense if is me/gira are teamed with each other
You're right, good point.

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:47 pm
by Gira
wow game went dead huh

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:47 pm
by staypositivefriend
i'm still here unfortunately

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:00 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Gira wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:52 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:49 pm ok I'm now prepared to lose the game to LC if both Alexa and SPF are and I just think I have to live with that. In which case, Gira, get on my page.
i mean nominally at least one of them should be mafia fypov so
Yes but then ones town and if they’re both mafia then LC is town

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:01 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Lime Coke wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:06 pm Is TSP mafia that is also trying to get me ML'd? One of them could be, right?
How is it that there are four different people who think I’m trying to get them MLed

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:14 pm
by staypositivefriend
if anyone plans to vote tonight then i would politely request that they do it within the next couple of hours

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:15 pm
by Lime Coke
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:01 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:06 pm Is TSP mafia that is also trying to get me ML'd? One of them could be, right?
How is it that there are four different people who think I’m trying to get them MLed
Maybe you're just mafia and the other 4 are town?

Marmot accidentally created a setup with 2 mafia members and no one had the heart to tell him.

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:17 pm
by Gira
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:01 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:06 pm Is TSP mafia that is also trying to get me ML'd? One of them could be, right?
How is it that there are four different people who think I’m trying to get them MLed
i have not proposed that you are trying to get me MLed

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:17 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
I’m pretty focussed as mafia I find my kill and go for it smh


Though maybe LC’s suggestion would explain why CRich raged

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:17 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Gira wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:17 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:01 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:06 pm Is TSP mafia that is also trying to get me ML'd? One of them could be, right?
How is it that there are four different people who think I’m trying to get them MLed
i have not proposed that you are trying to get me MLed
Ok teammate

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:18 pm
by Lime Coke
Gira wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:17 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:01 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:06 pm Is TSP mafia that is also trying to get me ML'd? One of them could be, right?
How is it that there are four different people who think I’m trying to get them MLed
i have not proposed that you are trying to get me MLed
But why is TSP trying to get you ML'ed?

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:18 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
(The fourth person was myself)

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:18 pm
by Lime Coke
God dammit TSP you didn't read the script. Where the fuck did they hire you from?

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:19 pm
by Gira
staypositivefriend wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:14 pm if anyone plans to vote tonight then i would politely request that they do it within the next couple of hours
voting LC in 30 minutes

if you strongly object to this possibility then vote before then

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:20 pm
by Lime Coke
I was the last person I expected to be voted but, fair enough?

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:21 pm
by Gira
if you weren't expecting that you haven't been reading my posts

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:21 pm
by Lime Coke
Yeah but I thought you were just throwing things into the air to see what flies.

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:23 pm
by Gira
Lime Coke wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:21 pm Yeah but I thought you were just throwing things into the air to see what flies.
why would i do that

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:24 pm
by Lime Coke
Gira wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:23 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:21 pm Yeah but I thought you were just throwing things into the air to see what flies.
why would i do that
Reaction testing and asking questions about what concerns you. Playing LYLO.

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:25 pm
by Lime Coke
You're probably expecting me to explode but not really gonna happen.

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:26 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Genuinely at a loss in the gamestate

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:27 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Oh right try to make LC explode, an old favorite

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:27 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
But like voting for LC is suicidal in this position, right?

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:27 pm
by Gira
Lime Coke wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:24 pm
Gira wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:23 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:21 pm Yeah but I thought you were just throwing things into the air to see what flies.
why would i do that
Reaction testing and asking questions about what concerns you. Playing LYLO.
i don't get why you assume that's how i play this

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:29 pm
by staypositivefriend
Gira wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:19 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:14 pm if anyone plans to vote tonight then i would politely request that they do it within the next couple of hours
voting LC in 30 minutes

if you strongly object to this possibility then vote before then
there's a 99% chance that we lose the game if i vote first even if i somehow manage to vote correctly so im not going to

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:29 pm
by Lime Coke
Gira wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:27 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:24 pm
Gira wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:23 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:21 pm Yeah but I thought you were just throwing things into the air to see what flies.
why would i do that
Reaction testing and asking questions about what concerns you. Playing LYLO.
i don't get why you assume that's how i play this
Well you're doing it so... :eye: :eye:

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 5]

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:29 pm
by Gira
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:27 pm But like voting for LC is suicidal in this position, right?
possibly, or just a throw

but i'm different from you in that i don't base my decisions off assumed win probability, i just play for the moral victory and trying to be right and if people misread me, well i get annoyed but it's on the ultimately