Reanimators [MAFIA WIN!]

[Porscha]

I think I'm incline to agree with Falcon here. While I don't know Omega's meta since I haven't seen them play ever they are just making nothing posts over and over again.
Though so is Creature and I'm certainly not confident all three scum are taking that approach.

I think of the active people, basically just excluding Mac, Creature, Cobalt, and Omega, that Flounders seems to be doing the least while being the loudest.
They aren't really coming across as actively trying so much as just giving random comments to appear like they are doing something.

Spoiler: show

[VOTE: Flanders] aubergine

decides to check in after the check in phase

All of day 0 is check in phase?

if by that you mean night 0 where the thread is opened and people got their role PM's and people posted into the thread

then yeah

I don't see why flanders needed to post again with largely a meaningless post

Because I can't resist a good beep-boop joke.

Marty comin in hot

A pretty early random shade for Martin being active.

falcon45ca - nai
Porscha - town
RondoDimBuckle - town
Creature - town
DaughterOfOmega - scum
MartinGG99 - scum
MacDougall - town
Seanzie - town
Marmot - town
LinearPoint - scum
Cobalt - scum
Stupid Sexy Flanders - town

Feels way too early for a reads list.

And where the fuck is @falcon45ca ? Seemed pretty charged up to play..

Then they criticize someone for making reads period. Where everyone else who was on at the time was either questioning specific reads or not addressing it.
Seems pretty counter to what I think town would want especially since reads and discussion drive this game.

falcon45ca - nai
Porscha - town
RondoDimBuckle - town
Creature - town
DaughterOfOmega - scum
MartinGG99 - scum
MacDougall - town
Seanzie - town
Marmot - town
LinearPoint - scum
Cobalt - scum
Stupid Sexy Flanders - town

Feels way too early for a reads list.

And where the fuck is @falcon45ca ? Seemed pretty charged up to play..

any specifics you disagree with or just throwing shade?

Not even sure I'm throwing shade, so much as thinking outloud.
I couldn't do a list this early on you guys. On my homesite maybe, but... yeah.

Carry on though. Don't let me spoil your fun.

I'm gonna [VOTE: omega] aubergine for wagon stuff

This response just looks like a deflection. They basically just said it wasn't a shading attempt and quickly voted someone else for no given reason which in this context looks to just be an attempt to redirect the conversation away from his odd post.

They also had recently switched votes from Omega to Martin while not having commented on the Martin accusations at all. It looks to just be following the wagon like they had done with their last vote.

I really don't think that Flounders is being genuine here and is just giving the illusion of activity since they really have not substanciated anything outside of this:

Thinkin Seanzie and Marmot probably town.

Can you elaborate on this? Why has what me and Marmot done not something that could come from wolves?

Vibes, tonal stuff. The way you both approach the thread feels genuine.

Could a wolf do it too? Yes, but you two feel lighter than the rest.

Which while I don't disagree with the read it is a pretty simple response to why they town read someone and didn't even point to examples. Just kind of left it at this vague towny feeling.

Did you arrive at your shit take through iso, or just throwing mud to appear solvey?

You're calling it shit, but you've not said why. As far as I'm concerned that's as good as just admitting you're scum.

Your ISO was mostly just fluff posts which I skipped over in the quoting to cut space and not be so repetitive.

But so far you've basically just been doing the bare minimal to get by unnoticed.

honestly LP I think you just picked the highest-low poster and used that as your basis for determining their posts to be fluff / unhelpful

also i have a little bit of flanders meta and it isn't unusual for them in their town play to start off this way

[Creature]

I think falcon, Seanzie and LinearPoint all look good in this page.

Tell me more about Falcon. While their push on DoOm isn't bad persay, it kinda feels like he is going after lhf since DoOm often plays in a way that people find kinda unhelpful/non-townie.

I liked his meme game and I also can kinda see his push on DOOM. It's hard to not wolfread someone being unhelpful.

what about you? What is your read on DOOM? what about your read on Seanzie?

I think Seanzie is towny and I kinda trust his read on Martin.

Not sure where I stand on DOOM.

[Creature]

Have we found any wolf?

srsly

So no free wolves?

[Porscha]

@falcon45ca
@MacDougall
@Cobalt

Don't be shy, lets hear your reads, at least park a vote

@LinearPoint

You've been sitting here a while no money where your mouth is? No vote? You go quiet when pushed?

A series of replies to me in close to or less than 10 minutes apart and now nothing?

I believe Marmot calls this a FREEZE?

[VOTE: LinearPoint ] aubergine

I agree with LP's point here. Specifically, I don't understand how you can read falcon's single post as nai, and Cobalt's single post as scummy.

flanders read 1 falcon post as NAI opposed to cobalt single post as scum cuz flanders has a lot of falcon meta. pretty much guarantee this was a meta read that flanders did not explain

[Creature]

Have we found any wolf?

srsly

Creature we are waiting for you to start hunting

Wait are you all leaving me with the hunting part?

[Creature]

I think wolves are in here:

Porscha
DaughterOfOmega
MartinGG99
MacDougall
Cobalt
Stupid Sexy Flanders

[Porscha]

Anyone else see the Seanzie/Martin thing as performative at this point?

I don't think it's w/w if that's what you're asking.

But I can empathize with martin, sometimes forcing content is necessary when a game is getting off to a slow start. What he has done I can see coming from a townie perspective, but how he's responded to sean's pressure looks less townie imo.

I agree with this marmot

[RondoDimBuckle]

I think I'm incline to agree with Falcon here. While I don't know Omega's meta since I haven't seen them play ever they are just making nothing posts over and over again.
Though so is Creature and I'm certainly not confident all three scum are taking that approach.

I think of the active people, basically just excluding Mac, Creature, Cobalt, and Omega, that Flounders seems to be doing the least while being the loudest.
They aren't really coming across as actively trying so much as just giving random comments to appear like they are doing something.

Spoiler: show

All of day 0 is check in phase?

if by that you mean night 0 where the thread is opened and people got their role PM's and people posted into the thread

then yeah

I don't see why flanders needed to post again with largely a meaningless post

Because I can't resist a good beep-boop joke.

Marty comin in hot

A pretty early random shade for Martin being active.

falcon45ca - nai
Porscha - town
RondoDimBuckle - town
Creature - town
DaughterOfOmega - scum
MartinGG99 - scum
MacDougall - town
Seanzie - town
Marmot - town
LinearPoint - scum
Cobalt - scum
Stupid Sexy Flanders - town

Feels way too early for a reads list.

And where the fuck is @falcon45ca ? Seemed pretty charged up to play..

Then they criticize someone for making reads period. Where everyone else who was on at the time was either questioning specific reads or not addressing it.
Seems pretty counter to what I think town would want especially since reads and discussion drive this game.

Feels way too early for a reads list.

And where the fuck is @falcon45ca ? Seemed pretty charged up to play..

any specifics you disagree with or just throwing shade?

Not even sure I'm throwing shade, so much as thinking outloud.
I couldn't do a list this early on you guys. On my homesite maybe, but... yeah.

Carry on though. Don't let me spoil your fun.

I'm gonna [VOTE: omega] aubergine for wagon stuff

This response just looks like a deflection. They basically just said it wasn't a shading attempt and quickly voted someone else for no given reason which in this context looks to just be an attempt to redirect the conversation away from his odd post.

They also had recently switched votes from Omega to Martin while not having commented on the Martin accusations at all. It looks to just be following the wagon like they had done with their last vote.

I really don't think that Flounders is being genuine here and is just giving the illusion of activity since they really have not substanciated anything outside of this:

Thinkin Seanzie and Marmot probably town.

Can you elaborate on this? Why has what me and Marmot done not something that could come from wolves?

Vibes, tonal stuff. The way you both approach the thread feels genuine.

Could a wolf do it too? Yes, but you two feel lighter than the rest.

Which while I don't disagree with the read it is a pretty simple response to why they town read someone and didn't even point to examples. Just kind of left it at this vague towny feeling.

Did you arrive at your shit take through iso, or just throwing mud to appear solvey?

You're calling it shit, but you've not said why. As far as I'm concerned that's as good as just admitting you're scum.

Your ISO was mostly just fluff posts which I skipped over in the quoting to cut space and not be so repetitive.

But so far you've basically just been doing the bare minimal to get by unnoticed.

honestly LP I think you just picked the highest-low poster and used that as your basis for determining their posts to be fluff / unhelpful

also i have a little bit of flanders meta and it isn't unusual for them in their town play to start off this way

I personally saw those posts from flanders as normal

[Porscha]

"I think Rondo is very likely town, or at least townier than everyone else here."

I also TR rondo at this point in time but I don't feel like rondo is townier than everyone else here for any particular reason

"Don't think wolves shade both of us, and regardless of whether he's right on Linear I think his posts on it look towny."

why would one assume this exactly. what does it mean. okay why does it look towny

"Also feels a bit excited."

I guess I just didnt feel like it was that excited or aggro but that might be because I read your posts thru rondo-meta-colored glasses. felt like it could just... be like....... a shallow reason to TR you which is just inherently not as genuinely believable

I'm confused, are you saying that Martin's read looks like tmi because even though you agree with him on Rondo, you don't agree with the particular nature of his townread?

I don't understand how it's tmi.

if it isn't apparent enough in my explanation I don't really know how to explain it further to make sense *to you*.
"I'm confused, are you saying that Martin's read looks like tmi because even though you agree with him on Rondo, you don't agree with the particular nature of his townread?"

>pretty much yes. you're less confused than you think you are

I didn't feel like it was a read, I felt like it was a choice of "which townie would I like to TR today" with a reason added on top to make it sound believable. I felt like the read was worked backwards - not forwards. if that makes sense

[RondoDimBuckle]

I think wolves are in here:

Porscha
DaughterOfOmega
MartinGG99
MacDougall
Cobalt
Stupid Sexy Flanders

what happened to your falcon sus?

[RondoDimBuckle]

I think wolves are in here:

Porscha
DaughterOfOmega
MartinGG99
MacDougall
Cobalt
Stupid Sexy Flanders

what happened to your falcon sus?

also, any reasoning?

[Seanzie]

I think falcon, Seanzie and LinearPoint all look good in this page.

Tell me more about Falcon. While their push on DoOm isn't bad persay, it kinda feels like he is going after lhf since DoOm often plays in a way that people find kinda unhelpful/non-townie.

I liked his meme game and I also can kinda see his push on DOOM. It's hard to not wolfread someone being unhelpful.

what about you? What is your read on DOOM? what about your read on Seanzie?

I think Seanzie is towny and I kinda trust his read on Martin.

Not sure where I stand on DOOM.

Why do you think I'm townie? Just because of my push on Martin, or something else?

[Porscha]

I think I'm incline to agree with Falcon here. While I don't know Omega's meta since I haven't seen them play ever they are just making nothing posts over and over again.
Though so is Creature and I'm certainly not confident all three scum are taking that approach.

I think of the active people, basically just excluding Mac, Creature, Cobalt, and Omega, that Flounders seems to be doing the least while being the loudest.
They aren't really coming across as actively trying so much as just giving random comments to appear like they are doing something.

Spoiler: show

Because I can't resist a good beep-boop joke.

Marty comin in hot

A pretty early random shade for Martin being active.

Feels way too early for a reads list.

And where the fuck is @falcon45ca ? Seemed pretty charged up to play..

Then they criticize someone for making reads period. Where everyone else who was on at the time was either questioning specific reads or not addressing it.
Seems pretty counter to what I think town would want especially since reads and discussion drive this game.

Not even sure I'm throwing shade, so much as thinking outloud.
I couldn't do a list this early on you guys. On my homesite maybe, but... yeah.

Carry on though. Don't let me spoil your fun.

I'm gonna [VOTE: omega] aubergine for wagon stuff

This response just looks like a deflection. They basically just said it wasn't a shading attempt and quickly voted someone else for no given reason which in this context looks to just be an attempt to redirect the conversation away from his odd post.

They also had recently switched votes from Omega to Martin while not having commented on the Martin accusations at all. It looks to just be following the wagon like they had done with their last vote.

I really don't think that Flounders is being genuine here and is just giving the illusion of activity since they really have not substanciated anything outside of this:

Vibes, tonal stuff. The way you both approach the thread feels genuine.

Could a wolf do it too? Yes, but you two feel lighter than the rest.

Which while I don't disagree with the read it is a pretty simple response to why they town read someone and didn't even point to examples. Just kind of left it at this vague towny feeling.

Did you arrive at your shit take through iso, or just throwing mud to appear solvey?

You're calling it shit, but you've not said why. As far as I'm concerned that's as good as just admitting you're scum.

Your ISO was mostly just fluff posts which I skipped over in the quoting to cut space and not be so repetitive.

But so far you've basically just been doing the bare minimal to get by unnoticed.

Oh it's shit because I'm town. And the basis of read is me "not trying hard enough:, which is just a crap take. I'm just not a try hard.

Anyways, if you want to know where I'mat - dont like Marty and Rondo. Town leans on Marmot and Seanzie.

OK, but why?

You haven't said why you don't like Martin and this new Rondo dislike was also never mentioned in your ISO. Is there anything with martin you've disliked since the start of the game where you said he was coming in too hot? Are you only scum reading Rondo because he thought you were shading his reads list?

You also seem to be walking back on your Marmot and Seanzie reads here since earlier like I quoted, you were saying they were "probably Town" but htis is being downgraded to just a townlean since I pointed out you weren't making strong or compelling arguments.

All in all it doesn't look like you're putting any thought into your reads whatsoever and are just saying names that are not likely to be critiqued heavily for susing or towning.

I think the mixture of inquisitiveness and aggression here feels townie, LP seems genuinely concerned with Flanders, which is a good look, even if I don't really agree with all her points (e.g. "probably town -> townlean" I don't really see this as walking back, just using synonyms.)

agree with seanzie here on LP mostly. likely LP picking someone to pressure based on how sus they were of said person... but idk I also feel like LP *could* potentially be a wolf who thought they could push flanders around and trick flanders into suss'ing himself more than LP already had

[Porscha]

I think I'm incline to agree with Falcon here. While I don't know Omega's meta since I haven't seen them play ever they are just making nothing posts over and over again.
Though so is Creature and I'm certainly not confident all three scum are taking that approach.

I think of the active people, basically just excluding Mac, Creature, Cobalt, and Omega, that Flounders seems to be doing the least while being the loudest.
They aren't really coming across as actively trying so much as just giving random comments to appear like they are doing something.

Spoiler: show

A pretty early random shade for Martin being active.



Then they criticize someone for making reads period. Where everyone else who was on at the time was either questioning specific reads or not addressing it.
Seems pretty counter to what I think town would want especially since reads and discussion drive this game.



This response just looks like a deflection. They basically just said it wasn't a shading attempt and quickly voted someone else for no given reason which in this context looks to just be an attempt to redirect the conversation away from his odd post.

They also had recently switched votes from Omega to Martin while not having commented on the Martin accusations at all. It looks to just be following the wagon like they had done with their last vote.

I really don't think that Flounders is being genuine here and is just giving the illusion of activity since they really have not substanciated anything outside of this:


Which while I don't disagree with the read it is a pretty simple response to why they town read someone and didn't even point to examples. Just kind of left it at this vague towny feeling.

Did you arrive at your shit take through iso, or just throwing mud to appear solvey?

You're calling it shit, but you've not said why. As far as I'm concerned that's as good as just admitting you're scum.

Your ISO was mostly just fluff posts which I skipped over in the quoting to cut space and not be so repetitive.

But so far you've basically just been doing the bare minimal to get by unnoticed.

Oh it's shit because I'm town. And the basis of read is me "not trying hard enough:, which is just a crap take. I'm just not a try hard.

Anyways, if you want to know where I'mat - dont like Marty and Rondo. Town leans on Marmot and Seanzie.

OK, but why?

You haven't said why you don't like Martin and this new Rondo dislike was also never mentioned in your ISO. Is there anything with martin you've disliked since the start of the game where you said he was coming in too hot? Are you only scum reading Rondo because he thought you were shading his reads list?

You also seem to be walking back on your Marmot and Seanzie reads here since earlier like I quoted, you were saying they were "probably Town" but htis is being downgraded to just a townlean since I pointed out you weren't making strong or compelling arguments.

All in all it doesn't look like you're putting any thought into your reads whatsoever and are just saying names that are not likely to be critiqued heavily for susing or towning.

No I've definitely outlined my suspicion on marty, you either didnt read my iso, or you missed it.

I mentioned things and questioned rondo in the thread, but I suppose I didnt outright call him scum at those times.
Premature lists.
Tonal shift from my last game with him, and when I asked about why, I didnt like the "I dont use the same tone, especially when playing in two games" answer.
Last night felt like typical overposting wolf to establish some town cred for post volume. Will be interesting to see if they continue on with the same energy.

Oh I see it, I didn't realize that was addressing Martin.

who else would marty be..??????? lol.................................... hope you aren't playing dumb rn LP

[Creature]

I think wolves are in here:

Porscha
DaughterOfOmega
MartinGG99
MacDougall
Cobalt
Stupid Sexy Flanders

what happened to your falcon sus?

I didn't have a falcon sus?

[Creature]

I think falcon, Seanzie and LinearPoint all look good in this page.

I think falcon, Seanzie and LinearPoint all look good in this page.

Tell me more about Falcon. While their push on DoOm isn't bad persay, it kinda feels like he is going after lhf since DoOm often plays in a way that people find kinda unhelpful/non-townie.

I liked his meme game and I also can kinda see his push on DOOM. It's hard to not wolfread someone being unhelpful.

[Marmot]

@falcon45ca
@MacDougall
@Cobalt

Don't be shy, lets hear your reads, at least park a vote

@LinearPoint

You've been sitting here a while no money where your mouth is? No vote? You go quiet when pushed?

A series of replies to me in close to or less than 10 minutes apart and now nothing?

I believe Marmot calls this a FREEZE?

[VOTE: LinearPoint ] aubergine

I agree with LP's point here. Specifically, I don't understand how you can read falcon's single post as nai, and Cobalt's single post as scummy.

Oh I didn't even notice Cobalt had made a post since it was buried by the mod post.

I was more under the impression Cobalt hadn't posted at all which is why I was so critical of him pushing super hard on someone for that.

Fortunately he isn't a bot so he made it past the captcha.

But his one post is not something I would call ai

So are you calling him town? or Scum if you have to make a call on his play so far?

My post here clearly stated what I think and it is neither of those.

[Creature]

I think wolves are in here:

Porscha
DaughterOfOmega
MartinGG99
MacDougall
Cobalt
Stupid Sexy Flanders

what happened to your falcon sus?

also, any reasoning?

Ok that's gonna take me a while.

[Porscha]

I think falcon, Seanzie and LinearPoint all look good in this page.

Tell me more about Falcon. While their push on DoOm isn't bad persay, it kinda feels like he is going after lhf since DoOm often plays in a way that people find kinda unhelpful/non-townie.

I liked his meme game and I also can kinda see his push on DOOM. It's hard to not wolfread someone being unhelpful.

It's also easy to push someone that is chronically unhelpful.

[VOTE: sean] aubergine

"

[Marmot]

So your position is that Seanzie is a wolf?

My position is that seanzie is worth looking into because he more or less said he wasn't going to do any interaction with me

by not doing that after my passive-aggressive post that implicitly referred to him

This looks like a great way to generate discussion!

Also: I don't think anyone can be certainly wolf. No one can figure that out in 100 posts, at least in my personal experience.

What needs to happen is more things and more interactions. I've been trying to do that that with my earlier posts.

Last town game I had on another site, I lost to a wolf because there wasn't enough posts in the game. if there had been more posts that game, I would've been able to figure out who was more likely to be the wolf partner there, instead of just relying on my world-building bias. Admittedly though, it was only 300ish posts because it was a light-ish game, but I want to get the ball rolling this game just so we avoid the scenario of finding out there was too little to go on too late.

Valid, ok you keep doing you.

Does this make you change your mind that Martin could be scum?

Mmmm, I still think is one post is bad enough that I feel he's more likely scum than anyone else, but that did wane a bit, especially since someone (I forget who) claimed that Martin does get quite defensive as town.

[Marmot]

Anyone else see the Seanzie/Martin thing as performative at this point?

I don't think it's w/w if that's what you're asking.

But I can empathize with martin, sometimes forcing content is necessary when a game is getting off to a slow start. What he has done I can see coming from a townie perspective, but how he's responded to sean's pressure looks less townie imo.

What if I called you his wolf partner for this post?

Do you?

[Marmot]

(ok that was mean, I'm sorry)

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine


This is a pressure vote

Is your vote still on me on purpose or did you forget to switch?

That was an accident, fixed.

[Marmot]

Did Buckle just call me bucko?

Is buckle actually my dad?

Wtf

Are you Buckle's son?

[Marmot]

Spoiler: show

Alright, I'd vote Martin or DOOM right now. I see Martin's in the lead, so why not make it harder for Maf to bus right?



So, [VOTE: DaughterOfOmega] aubergine

Why DoOm? She's straight null for me right now.

Just awkward posting, no real solving attempts at all. Doesn't vibe w/ how I see town DOOM play

wrong

Alright, I'd vote Martin or DOOM right now. I see Martin's in the lead, so why not make it harder for Maf to bus right?



So, [VOTE: DaughterOfOmega] aubergine

Why DoOm? She's straight null for me right now.

Just awkward posting, no real solving attempts at all. Doesn't vibe w/ how I see town DOOM play

Do you find town!DoOm particularly solvy, especially early game?

no

Alright, I'd vote Martin or DOOM right now. I see Martin's in the lead, so why not make it harder for Maf to bus right?



So, [VOTE: DaughterOfOmega] aubergine

Why DoOm? She's straight null for me right now.

Just awkward posting, no real solving attempts at all. Doesn't vibe w/ how I see town DOOM play

Do you find town!DoOm particularly solvy, especially early game?

Certainly moreso than they've been thus far

wrong again

Do you think Omega is town at this point?

[Porscha]

I feel like I'm in a decent spot, and I could post my thoughts but it could bring attention to me

absolute jester mega chad post right here

[Porscha]

Sorting GTH without much thought.

LinearPoint

Marmot
Stupid Sexy Flanders

RondoDimBuckle
DaughterOfOmega
Cobalt
MacDougall
Creature

falcon45ca
Porscha

MartinGG99

A lot more nulls than I'd prefer, but I suppose that comes with the slower start to the game and a few people not having really started playing. Even though this doesn't really show up on this sort, I've kind of softened on Martin a bit, when I was pressuring them, they didn't just focus on defending themselves and continued to give reads on the game around them, which I think was kind of a good look. They were still very reactionary in a way that I think is scummy, but I am kind of worried about a different possibility as well. Still kind of okay with my vote, but would really like to hear from some of the low posters to help sort that null group.

actually breaks my heart you think i'm more scum than
DaughterOfOmega
Cobalt
MacDougall
Creature

debating tearing up as we speak

[RondoDimBuckle]

Anyone else see the Seanzie/Martin thing as performative at this point?

I don't think it's w/w if that's what you're asking.

But I can empathize with martin, sometimes forcing content is necessary when a game is getting off to a slow start. What he has done I can see coming from a townie perspective, but how he's responded to sean's pressure looks less townie imo.

What if I called you his wolf partner for this post?

Do you?

not yet, wanted to see your reaction

[Seanzie]

Sorting GTH without much thought.

LinearPoint

Marmot
Stupid Sexy Flanders

RondoDimBuckle
DaughterOfOmega
Cobalt
MacDougall
Creature

falcon45ca
Porscha

MartinGG99

A lot more nulls than I'd prefer, but I suppose that comes with the slower start to the game and a few people not having really started playing. Even though this doesn't really show up on this sort, I've kind of softened on Martin a bit, when I was pressuring them, they didn't just focus on defending themselves and continued to give reads on the game around them, which I think was kind of a good look. They were still very reactionary in a way that I think is scummy, but I am kind of worried about a different possibility as well. Still kind of okay with my vote, but would really like to hear from some of the low posters to help sort that null group.

actually breaks my heart you think i'm more scum than
DaughterOfOmega
Cobalt
MacDougall
Creature

debating tearing up as we speak

Do you have a reason to think one of them is scum?

[Marmot]

@falcon45ca
@MacDougall
@Cobalt

Don't be shy, lets hear your reads, at least park a vote

@LinearPoint

You've been sitting here a while no money where your mouth is? No vote? You go quiet when pushed?

A series of replies to me in close to or less than 10 minutes apart and now nothing?

I believe Marmot calls this a FREEZE?

[VOTE: LinearPoint ] aubergine

I agree with LP's point here. Specifically, I don't understand how you can read falcon's single post as nai, and Cobalt's single post as scummy.

flanders read 1 falcon post as NAI opposed to cobalt single post as scum cuz flanders has a lot of falcon meta. pretty much guarantee this was a meta read that flanders did not explain

I'm talking about Rondo's read, not Flanders'.

[Creature]

Thought the poll locked and crapped myself out until I realised I actually logged out.

[Creature]

Sorting GTH without much thought.

LinearPoint

Marmot
Stupid Sexy Flanders

RondoDimBuckle
DaughterOfOmega
Cobalt
MacDougall
Creature

falcon45ca
Porscha

MartinGG99

A lot more nulls than I'd prefer, but I suppose that comes with the slower start to the game and a few people not having really started playing. Even though this doesn't really show up on this sort, I've kind of softened on Martin a bit, when I was pressuring them, they didn't just focus on defending themselves and continued to give reads on the game around them, which I think was kind of a good look. They were still very reactionary in a way that I think is scummy, but I am kind of worried about a different possibility as well. Still kind of okay with my vote, but would really like to hear from some of the low posters to help sort that null group.

actually breaks my heart you think i'm more scum than
DaughterOfOmega
Cobalt
MacDougall
Creature

debating tearing up as we speak

How am I related to the other names?

[RondoDimBuckle]

Thought the poll locked and crapped myself out until I realised I actually logged out.

This site has been friggen logging me out all month

[Marmot]

Anyone else see the Seanzie/Martin thing as performative at this point?

I don't think it's w/w if that's what you're asking.

But I can empathize with martin, sometimes forcing content is necessary when a game is getting off to a slow start. What he has done I can see coming from a townie perspective, but how he's responded to sean's pressure looks less townie imo.

What if I called you his wolf partner for this post?

Do you?

not yet, wanted to see your reaction

I'll respond to your read if you have one. I'm not interested in this discussion otherwise.

[Porscha]

Anyone else see the Seanzie/Martin thing as performative at this point?

I don't think it's w/w if that's what you're asking.

But I can empathize with martin, sometimes forcing content is necessary when a game is getting off to a slow start. What he has done I can see coming from a townie perspective, but how he's responded to sean's pressure looks less townie imo.

What if I called you his wolf partner for this post?

what if I told you that martin's content force did produce results? threadstate is much more active now................. not that I don't still scum lean martin but, in his favor, I will grant that I would likely not see his content force as wolf. and it did seem to work, so................... sort of agree with marmot on that point without it feeling too wolfy, though I do see that any defense of anybody can potentially be wolf partner defense. not sure it's really the case here chief

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

Did Buckle just call me bucko?

Is buckle actually my dad?

Wtf

Are you Buckle's son?

Well Bucko, are you little baby Buckle?
Does he tickle your toes until you say uncle?

But seriously, gonna be super serious here. Why do I feel like all Buckle does is ask questions, but offer no reads of his own?
Am I high? Yes. Did I iso him? Not yet, but I will sometime

Oh I will

[Porscha]

So your position is that Seanzie is a wolf?

My position is that seanzie is worth looking into because he more or less said he wasn't going to do any interaction with me

by not doing that after my passive-aggressive post that implicitly referred to him

This looks like a great way to generate discussion!

Also: I don't think anyone can be certainly wolf. No one can figure that out in 100 posts, at least in my personal experience.

What needs to happen is more things and more interactions. I've been trying to do that that with my earlier posts.

Last town game I had on another site, I lost to a wolf because there wasn't enough posts in the game. if there had been more posts that game, I would've been able to figure out who was more likely to be the wolf partner there, instead of just relying on my world-building bias. Admittedly though, it was only 300ish posts because it was a light-ish game, but I want to get the ball rolling this game just so we avoid the scenario of finding out there was too little to go on too late.

Valid, ok you keep doing you.

Does this make you change your mind that Martin could be scum?

Mmmm, I still think is one post is bad enough that I feel he's more likely scum than anyone else, but that did wane a bit, especially since someone (I forget who) claimed that Martin does get quite defensive as town.

it was LP. don't forget

[RondoDimBuckle]

Did Buckle just call me bucko?

Is buckle actually my dad?

Wtf

Are you Buckle's son?

Well Bucko, are you little baby Buckle?
Does he tickle your toes until you say uncle?

But seriously, gonna be super serious here. Why do I feel like all Buckle does is ask questions, but offer no reads of his own?
Am I high? Yes. Did I iso him? Not yet, but I will sometime

Oh I will

one of my first 10 posts were my reads, where are yours?

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

Oh wait the list

Hated that early list. Gross

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

Did Buckle just call me bucko?

Is buckle actually my dad?

Wtf

Are you Buckle's son?

Well Bucko, are you little baby Buckle?
Does he tickle your toes until you say uncle?

But seriously, gonna be super serious here. Why do I feel like all Buckle does is ask questions, but offer no reads of his own?
Am I high? Yes. Did I iso him? Not yet, but I will sometime

Oh I will

one of my first 10 posts were my reads, where are yours?

Oh they've been dropped. Yup

[Porscha]

Spoiler: show

Alright, I'd vote Martin or DOOM right now. I see Martin's in the lead, so why not make it harder for Maf to bus right?



So, [VOTE: DaughterOfOmega] aubergine

Why DoOm? She's straight null for me right now.

Just awkward posting, no real solving attempts at all. Doesn't vibe w/ how I see town DOOM play

wrong

Alright, I'd vote Martin or DOOM right now. I see Martin's in the lead, so why not make it harder for Maf to bus right?



So, [VOTE: DaughterOfOmega] aubergine

Why DoOm? She's straight null for me right now.

Just awkward posting, no real solving attempts at all. Doesn't vibe w/ how I see town DOOM play

Do you find town!DoOm particularly solvy, especially early game?

no

Alright, I'd vote Martin or DOOM right now. I see Martin's in the lead, so why not make it harder for Maf to bus right?



So, [VOTE: DaughterOfOmega] aubergine

Why DoOm? She's straight null for me right now.

Just awkward posting, no real solving attempts at all. Doesn't vibe w/ how I see town DOOM play

Do you find town!DoOm particularly solvy, especially early game?

Certainly moreso than they've been thus far

wrong again

Do you think Omega is town at this point?

well like I said before, I think she's null. I'm almost entirely caught up now and have seen all her posts. didn't love the post where it seemed like she was worried to bring attention to herself cuz it literally does sound like it was for maf chat but I also don't think she'd make that mistake, sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo idunno what to do with that right now.

[Marmot]

I was about to call Porscha scummy because I feel like she (do you use she pronouns?) had been mostly shitposting, but I scanned her ISO and she has been stating reads, and I don't sense any trepidation in her thought process. Apparently I've mostly overlooked or forgotten those posts.

I think Porscha is town.

[Marmot]

Oh wait the list

Hated that early list. Gross

Your name was on it, wasn't it.

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

I was about to call Porscha scummy because I feel like she (do you use she pronouns?) had been mostly shitposting, but I scanned her ISO and she has been stating reads, and I don't sense any trepidation in her thought process. Apparently I've mostly overlooked or forgotten those posts.

I think Porscha is town.

I'm leaning that way as well. Her posting is also playfull and light, a good dose off sass. Her confidence reads well.

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

That 2nd L Olin playful shouldn't have ever happened. I apologize to everyone.

[Marmot]

What about the third L Olin?

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

Oh wait the list

Hated that early list. Gross

Your name was on it, wasn't it.

It's not the names, or the "reads" themselves. The timing was just awkward, forced...

Anyway. I'm gonna stop going on about DAD and let that simmer. I like that he's asking questions, he's firm and doing towny things.. it's just .. I dunno. Yeah

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

What about the third L Olin?

Wishing I could figure out how to embed gifs on mobile rn. My thumb is failing me. Must rest

[RondoDimBuckle]

Seanzie
Trimmed and Modified for space, thanks for the read list so I dont have to do more work. I suggest you go read the post to gain full context

Spoiler: show

LinearPoint

Marmot - Town
Stupid Sexy Flanders - Town

RondoDimBuckle - Nothing
DaughterOfOmega - Nothing
Cobalt - Nothing
MacDougall - Nothing
Creature - Nothing

falcon45ca - Wolf
Porscha - Wolf

MartinGG99 - Wolf

The only thing I find off about Seanzies read list is that Marmot does a complete flip from his previous wolf read to town but its early days so I dont begrudge him a flip

Martin

Spoiler: show

Rondo - Town

Falcon - Nothing - Despite them wolf reading him
Marmot - Nothing - Despite them wolf reading him
Creature - Nothing - Despite them wolf reading him
Linear - Nothing - Despite them wolf reading him
Porcha - Nothing - Despite them wolf reading him

Cobalt - Nothing
Omega - Nothing
Mac - Nothing

Flanders - Wolf
Seanzie - Wolf

What strikes me as odd from Martin is that there is a lot of piling on BUT he has been one of the most active in chat and has almost no reads on people, no shades, no town reads or leans. Its all just Seanzie and him going at it.

Falcon

Spoiler: show

Seanzie - Town

Creature - Nothing
Mac - Nothing
Rondo - Nothing
Porcha - Nothing - Despite them wolf reading him
Cobalt - Nothing
Linear - Nothing
Flanders - Nothing
Martin - Nothing

Omega - Wolf
Marmot - Wolf

Pops into thread, two wolf reads and a town read, not amazing not terrible I guess

Marmot

Spoiler: show

Falcon - Town
Seanzie - Town
Rondo - Town
Porcha - Town

Flanders - Nothing - Despite them town reading him
Linear - Nothing
Cobalt - Nothing
Omega - Nothing - Despite them wolf reading him
Mac - Nothing
Creature - Nothing - Despite them town reading him

Martin - Wolf

Creature

Spoiler: show

Marmot - Town
Seanzie - Town

Falcon - Nothing/Town?
Rondo - Nothing
Linsear - Nothing

Cobalt - Wolf
Mac - Wolf
Omega - Wolf
Martin - Wolf
Flanders - Wolf
Porcha - Wolf
A Ridiculous number of wolves to look at. half the lobby

Mac

Spoiler: show

Nothing to say, not ideal for Mac at this point. I would vote him but he could be busy, who ever pointed that out could be a wolf partner but it seems like such bad wolf play. NAI but scum lean

Omega

Spoiler: show

Rondo - Nothing - Despite them wolf reading him
Porcha - Nothing
Cobalt - Nothing
Linear - Nothing - Despite them wolf reading him
Flanders - Nothing - Despite them wolf reading him
Martin - Nothing
Seanzie - Nothing
Falcon - Nothing - Despite them wolf reading him
Creature - Nothing

Marmot - Wolf
Mac - wolf

Porcha

Spoiler: show

Rondo - Town? This is an implied reading not direct

Seanzie - Nothing - Despite them wolf reading her
Marmot - Nothing

Omega - Wolf
Mac - Wolf
Cobalt - Wolf
Creature - Wolf
Flanders - Wolf
Linear - Wolf
Falcon - Wolf
Martin - Wolf

A whole lot of wolf here and not enough town. They are all light suses but she seems to not be willing to give any town cred and happy to shade

Cobalt

Spoiler: show

Nothing to say, I could vote here, I dont know cobalt so its NAI but scum lean

Linear

Spoiler: show

Cobalt - Nothing
Porcha - Nothing
Mac - Nothing
Marmot - Nothing
Falcon - Nothing
Seanzie - Nothing - Despite them town reading them
Creature - Nothing

Flanders - Wolf
Rondo - Wolf
Omega - Wolf
Martin - Wolf

Whole bunch of wolf, no town in sight.

Flanders

Spoiler: show

Marmot - Town
Porcha - Town

Falcon - Nothing
Mac - Nothing
Martin - Nothing - Despite them wolf reading him
Cobalt - Nothing
Linear - Nothing - Despite them wolf reading him
Creature - Nothing - Despite them wolf reading him
Seanzie - Nothing - Despite them town reading him

Omega - Wolf
Rondo - Wolf

A whole lot of not pushing back into reads to figure out what people think and why and how they got there.

Rondo
As everyone probably guessed, the first read was total bullshit here is the proper read

Spoiler: show

Seanzie - trying to be helpful so I town read him for that right now. But its provisional on catching pelts (Could be deep wolf? Tinfoil later)
Porcha - Much worse than creature, I liked her entrance and her poking but she needs to start getting some town reads and not just poking people around. I want to call her town but I need more action.
Marmot - Doing well enough, giving out some good town reads and some wolf sus. Needs to respond to people and push more but I am liking the content
Creature - As much as he is sussing half the lobby his content feels like normal creature, no agenda right now just poking people, if he doesnt kick into gear later, he will drop
Omega - I hated their entrance but their lack of drive doesnt indicate wolf behaviour to me. The mega chad "I in a good position" post is hilarious but Neutral
Falcon - Neutral, he can be wolf but he is currently in rand and has had some good posts.
Mac - Actually below falcon, never thought I would see the day. Neutral still
Cobalt - Less willing to give benefit of the doubt, not calling wolf just yet
Flanders - I feel like he has an Angenda in pushing me but he has outed some good reads but I need more action
Linear - Same problem as porcha, but the stalling early when I was fake pushing her wasnt a good look.
Martin - I am not going to protect as long as he is willing to just battle it out with seanzie and not actually go for any decent reads or game state analysis (slightly in POE)

In short at this moment my day 1 reads are
Town: Seanzie / Porcha / Marmot
Wolves Martin / Linear / Flanders

Probably terrible reads but we will see what happens and how people react

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[RondoDimBuckle]

I welcome everyone to address anything I got wrong in my assumed positions that you have taken

[Porscha]

Sorting GTH without much thought.

LinearPoint

Marmot
Stupid Sexy Flanders

RondoDimBuckle
DaughterOfOmega
Cobalt
MacDougall
Creature

falcon45ca
Porscha

MartinGG99

A lot more nulls than I'd prefer, but I suppose that comes with the slower start to the game and a few people not having really started playing. Even though this doesn't really show up on this sort, I've kind of softened on Martin a bit, when I was pressuring them, they didn't just focus on defending themselves and continued to give reads on the game around them, which I think was kind of a good look. They were still very reactionary in a way that I think is scummy, but I am kind of worried about a different possibility as well. Still kind of okay with my vote, but would really like to hear from some of the low posters to help sort that null group.

actually breaks my heart you think i'm more scum than
DaughterOfOmega
Cobalt
MacDougall
Creature

debating tearing up as we speak

Do you have a reason to think one of them is scum?

not particularly. my feelings are just hurt by my position on your list since I can't fathom what I have done to be worse off than null