The Syndicate

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:17 pm what was the case on cbob? I'm not positive I read the latter half of the last day phase

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:47 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:42 pm I'm not tinfoiling.

And It was really kinda funny, Boomslang at 5:01, "Bob", then you at 5:02, "Bob". I never said I thought you were on a team with Sloonei.

And as I have said all game long, we are all working on supposition, we don't actually *know* anything. In light of roles like Nutellas and LC's, we can't even be 100% on flips. And I strongly dislike people discounting thread work becasue it does not fit a mechanics construct that is only hypothetical. One of the games I hosted, Dogma, is a game that I know to have been one of Goldens faves (and that Juliets co hosted). It included an entire dead team the rest of the thread knew nothing about, it include merged bad teams, it included a shitton of chaos. Golden likes the mystery, not the predictability.

So if I think someone is bad, I don't appreciate it being blown off becasue it doesn't fit someone elses hypothetical construct. I will take the constructinto account, but it won't trump threadwork in this mechanics scenario.

Why on god's green earth if were on a team wth Boomslang would we try to save Sloone unless he was on our team. You absolutely are tinfoiling right now.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:22 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:17 pm
I don't think if someone is buddying you that you are necessarily complicit. LC buddying the crap out of me, and he was my top civ read until he said the hosts freaking told him the name of Cerberus. My thoughts on Sloonei were not totally tied to you.My thoughts about you being a tad suspect started mainly like this:

5:01 Boomslang says "what about Bob?"

5:02 Daisy says: "what about Bob?".

As Quin says, yuck.

linki [mention]Quin[/mention] I know, I am not saying he used those specific mechanics, that was an example of what I know he likes; he is not plain vanilla. I hosted the GOC, I know how it works

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:52 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:17 pm what was the case on cbob? I'm not positive I read the latter half of the last day phase

His first role was mafia as fuck and he played in a way that capitalized on it.

That's why I've wanted to loynch him so far. I kind of stopped thinking of it a few times but that feeling never left.

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:55 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:52 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:17 pm what was the case on cbob? I'm not positive I read the latter half of the last day phase

His first role was mafia as fuck and he played in a way that capitalized on it.

That's why I've wanted to loynch him so far. I kind of stopped thinking of it a few times but that feeling never left.

I do not agree
He was pushing us all to
Look at other votes

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:27 pm And stop forcing that litmus test on reads, that in order for someone to think someone is bad they must know what team they are on, too.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:57 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:55 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:52 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:17 pm what was the case on cbob? I'm not positive I read the latter half of the last day phase

His first role was mafia as fuck and he played in a way that capitalized on it.

That's why I've wanted to loynch him so far. I kind of stopped thinking of it a few times but that feeling never left.

I do not agree
He was pushing us all to
Look at other votes

This.

Plus I do not think first roles say much about affiliation; and I would think that anyone who has not voted for me (which I think is everyone) would agree with that.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:01 pm Jesus take the wheel.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:45 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:22 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:12 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:51 pmI don't understand why you would suspect Sloonei for giving you a surface read of civ for me, but not suspect me?

what I said about sloonei had basically nothing to do with you. my point was that Sloonei's order of operations for the process of elimination on the whole pika2.0 thing was potentially self-serving and shouldn't qualify as a reason to trust him.

him putting you high up on the list for reasons that he also applied to scotty, who was low on his list doesn't look good to me.

your being good or bad isn't particularly relevant to Sloonei's treatment of you and others in regards to the PoE. the only way Sloonei pulling you away from the fire looks bad for both you and him is if you're both evens, which seems unlikely and also isn't the point that I'm arguing.

Bullshit. I am bad because of a hypothetical in which I must be bad. You're giving no consideration to the possibility that I genuinely town read Spacedaisy and just jumping to the conclusion that it must be fabricated. Of course Daisy's alignment is relevant to my treatment of her. How could it not be? This isn't even an argument. This is just trying to force a scum read on me.

what are you talking about

If you're mafia you can genuinely townread spacedaisy just as easily as you could if you're town. Technically, easier, I guess. and there'd be no harm in doing so since you'd still have 3-4 lynches before needing to worry about it mattering so long as you kept the focus on the lower members of the list

my argument was meant to refute the things you're implying should count as something that only a civ motivated Sloonei would do. you keep saying "if I were mafia then why would I care who gets lynched out of the PoE and in what order it happens as long as it's not me?" but it seems obvious why you would care, regardless of alignment, and why curating the PoE list as well as possible would still be in your best interest.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:02 pm I think lynching Sloonei right now is a bad move.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:07 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:02 pm I think lynching Sloonei right now is a bad move.

Can you explain why?

Theres still time.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:03 pmI'm talking about your argument which is based on my treatment of daisy but which gives no consideration to why I might honestly town read her.

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:19 pm SVS is Quinfoiling.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:22 pm Look guys we know that there is an Even among the group left from pikachu 2.0. That at this point should narrow your list down to Epi, me, Kyle and Scotty. You are going to get a badde out of one the four of us. Please don't fuck around outside of this group. Let's lynch an Even and see if the game continues and reevaluate from there. This is why I voted Kyle. I could vote Kyle or Scotty again tomorrow. I won't be putting my vote anywhere other than one of those two.

Sorry I couldn't stop the lynch train Sloonster.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:14 pm So why the stress over "TODAY" would be especially bad, Sloonei? Like you were gonna blow people up or something? Is that another fake role hint like Sprityo?

And Dragon D. Luffy , I understand. But I mean the role itself separate from how it is played.

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:55 pm fuck it

voting sloonei to tie it up, and to see how others react

[VOTE: sloonei] aubergine

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:58 pm Kyle is reading civ for me, Sloonei is reading more indie/possible baddie. Had to go with the one who's given me more reason for suspicion.

I don't think Sloonei has properly justified his "weirdness," IMO.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:36 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:14 pm So why the stress over "TODAY" would be especially bad, Sloonei? Like you were gonna blow people up or something? Is that another fake role hint like Sprityo?

And Dragon D. Luffy , I understand. But I mean the role itself separate from how it is played.

I had some very special plans.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:22 pm Look guys we know that there is an Even among the group left from pikachu 2.0. That at this point should narrow your list down to Epi, me, Kyle and Scotty. You are going to get a badde out of one the four of us. Please don't fuck around outside of this group. Let's lynch an Even and see if the game continues and reevaluate from there. This is why I voted Kyle. I could vote Kyle or Scotty again tomorrow. I won't be putting my vote anywhere other than one of those two.

Sorry I couldn't stop the lynch train Sloonster.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:22 pm Look guys we know that there is an Even among the group left from pikachu 2.0. That at this point should narrow your list down to Epi, me, Kyle and Scotty. You are going to get a badde out of one the four of us. Please don't fuck around outside of this group. Let's lynch an Even and see if the game continues and reevaluate from there. This is why I voted Kyle. I could vote Kyle or Scotty again tomorrow. I won't be putting my vote anywhere other than one of those two.

Sorry I couldn't stop the lynch train Sloonster.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:31 pm Let's say Sea Salt that you can only vote for one of the followng four Me Epi or Scotty. Who is it going to be? Because feel confdent that one of us s an Even and am not afrad of beng part of a four PoE pool because I know t's not me. I'd rather put my ass on the lne and get us movng n the rght direction than let the tinfoil lead us off trac. So who is it in your opinion yle?

SVS did I tae myself out of the group? No, I did not. Focus on this group and 'm certan we will get an Even.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:31 pm Let's say Sea Salt that you can only vote for one of the followng four Me Epi or Scotty. Who is it going to be? Because feel confdent that one of us s an Even and am not afrad of beng part of a four PoE pool because I know t's not me. I'd rather put my ass on the lne and get us movng n the rght direction than let the tinfoil lead us off trac. So who is it in your opinion yle?

SVS did I tae myself out of the group? No, I did not. Focus on this group and 'm certan we will get an Even.