The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [ENDGAME]

#2701

The bleedin' knights 'elped me aahhht. Orange Peel very Bobby long con is Robin Hood na.

#2702

I answered the questions.

Maybe I should have answered the third one about Rush's 'Lunatic Fringe'... Otherwise, I got no result or PM or anything.

It didn't even show who the Suits targeted... maybe they missed the PM?

Linki: Weird insanity there, Timmer.

#2703

I have no idea what questions we're talking about. But yay no one died!

#2704

OMG what questions? I love a game, me.

#2705

I'll be Hammer and Tack mashed potato. This is Daffy Dahn Dilly.

#2706

Long Con wrote:I answered the questions. Maybe I should have answered the third one about Rush's 'Lunatic Fringe'... Otherwise, I got no result or PM or anything.

It didn't even show who the Suits targeted... maybe they missed the PM?

Linki: Weird insanity there, Timmer.

That's a very astute observation.

Does that mean the two remaining Suits could be someone completely inactive and someone mostly active but just so happened to miss this last PM?

#2707

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Long Con wrote:I answered the questions. Maybe I should have answered the third one about Rush's 'Lunatic Fringe'... Otherwise, I got no result or PM or anything.

It didn't even show who the Suits targeted... maybe they missed the PM?

Linki: Weird insanity there, Timmer.
That's a very astute observation.

Does that mean the two remaining Suits could be someone completely inactive and someone mostly active but just so happened to miss this last PM?

Boddy was at least active the last time they got to kill.

#2708

DharmaHelper wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Long Con wrote:I answered the questions. Maybe I should have answered the third one about Rush's 'Lunatic Fringe'... Otherwise, I got no result or PM or anything.

It didn't even show who the Suits targeted... maybe they missed the PM?

Linki: Weird insanity there, Timmer.
That's a very astute observation.

Does that mean the two remaining Suits could be someone completely inactive and someone mostly active but just so happened to miss this last PM?
Boddy was at least active the last time they got to kill.

Yes, that's true. It's possible Boddy has been active and just forgot this PM.

If no PM was sent in at all, that bids with the theory of the 2nd Suit being completely inactive though, or else you'd think they would have sent a PM in just to be safe.

#2709

Equally possible their target was protected.

#2710

DharmaHelper wrote:Equally possible their target was protected.

True, but don't failed kills typically show? timmer was shown as the target in the N6 post.

#2711

MovingPictures07 wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Equally possible their target was protected.
True, but don't failed kills typically show? timmer was shown as the target in the N6 post.

Also equally possible that by not answering the Knights questions, the suits were blocked.

#2712

Poop on an ever-lovin' stick.

Will anyone fess up to being blocked last night?

#2713

DharmaHelper wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Equally possible their target was protected.
True, but don't failed kills typically show? timmer was shown as the target in the N6 post.
Also equally possible that by not answering the Knights questions, the suits were blocked.

I really doubt that though, since I wasn't blocked last night.

#2714

Figured I might as well admit it since everyone knows my role and power anyway. :P

#2715

So who wasn't active during N7? That's the burning question.

If someone doesn't get to it, I'll see what I can find out tomorrow evening, since I'm about to get some rest.

#2716

MovingPictures07 wrote:So who wasn't active during N7? That's the burning question.

If someone doesn't get to it, I'll see what I can find out tomorrow evening, since I'm about to get some rest.

That's the million-dollar question!

#2717

MovingPictures07 wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Equally possible their target was protected.
True, but don't failed kills typically show? timmer was shown as the target in the N6 post.

Do y'all remember how SVS brilliantly played dead in Homestar? Could it be possible that the Suits are judiciously withholding a night kill? Failure to send in their target just seems like an awfully big mistake.

Thoughts?

#2718

Epignosis wrote:“What...is your name? What...is your quest?”

Those are the questions asked at the end of the last lynch post. I answered them in my first post thereafter, but I have seen no difference in anything at all. I was really hoping I had 'gotten it' and 'done it right', and now we all get scolded for not answering, and I'm like "WHAAAAT?" But what can you do? Al least no one got killed. Let me tell you one thing, I ain't Colonel Mustard, so I don't know what was up with that. Ditto for the Fighting last time.

I could see one Suit being Lorab or Lizzy... then the Suits would be one Suit and one no-show. So it would just be one Suit who is an active Mr Boddy (and it seems like Boddy has been doing a LOT of the Suits' killing, in my recollection... could be worth looking at to confirm), and the other is a totally inactive Preacher Harry Powell.

#2719

I am at an impasse. I am nah longer Bobby 'oo ter vote for. I 'ave many theories, but Current Ban 're mother's pearly gate.

#2720

The only fin' I 'ave noticed is that not wahn of the knock at the Dorothy Lamour knahn baddies voted for dharma 'elper on day wahn.

If Current Ban of the bloomin' knock at the chuffin' Dorothy Lamour baddies voted for dharma 'elper, there is prolly a Robin Hood chance that 'e is Sorry and Sad.

#2721

Dharma 'elper, wot was your opinion of The bloomin' Cilla Black roxy?

#2722

Cockney curse?

Also, presuming he did use one per night, last night should have been Voldys last Horcrux, right?

#2723

timmer wrote:Dharma 'elper, wot was your opinion of The bloomin' Cilla Black roxy?

I'm of the opinion that she was the Card Czar. I think she was very eager to jump to Long Cons defense, but she was wrong about me in doing so

#2724

timmer wrote:The only fin' I 'ave noticed is that not wahn of the knock at the Dorothy Lamour knahn baddies voted for dharma 'elper on day wahn.

If Current Ban of the bloomin' knock at the chuffin' Dorothy Lamour baddies voted for dharma 'elper, there is prolly a Robin Hood chance that 'e is Sorry and Sad.

Come on! Building a case that I'm bad based squarely on other peoples votes? :/

I also built cases/discussed suspicion of Bass. I voted for Dom twice, and voted for Snowy.

#2725

I have always thought that if you are going to use a set of facts to bolster your case, you need to use the whole set. If the whole set does not fit your thesis, you need to disregard them ALL.

Looking at some votes but not others is kinda sketchy, Timmer. Or you could know something, or believe you know something, and are trying pretty desperately to build a case in a hard environment. But I think some of the stuff you said about Bea earlier in the game was kinda sketchy, so not so sure about you having info. And if I don't think you have info, I can only view this as sketchy, tbh.

This is starting to feel like endgame; even though we have 19 living players, it seems that only about half of them are even moderately active, and less than that totally active. Very odd. I have been looking at the Night Kills, mostly fairly active players from both teams. I would expect a baddie DH to be killing the non players, tbh, were he bad. He wants to play and would rather have living adversaries who fight back, not kill all the active civvies and have an end game of lynching Sabie, reywaS & Lorab. I think DH would HATE that, which is also part of why I don't think he is a baddie.

I could be wrong and he could be playing me to bits, and were it just for his posts I might have thought so. But I really think that if DH had a kill, we would still have Turnip Head, Roxy or FZ and we would NOT have Sabie, Lizzy or some other non-player. Just my opinion, but I am not seeing bad DH.

I sent something out the other night to someone I trusted and it got redirected to someone that makes me a little nervous. The redirector is on the Sorcerer team, so they already know I am not Voldy. I am just trying to figure out if they would redirect something of mine to one of themselves or not.

#2726

Funny you should say that SVS. Don't be mad at me but:

Dom
7
Long Con (5), Spacedaisy (6), DharmaHelper (8), timmer (9), Turnip Head (13), S~V~S (15), Snow Dog (18)

1) Long Con - Extremely Anti-Suit, despite never actually voting to lynch a suit as far as I can tell. Was he silenced at one point by the Warden? Could be a team-target but IDK, again, not *really* seeing the baddie LC as much as I had been in the past.

2) Spacedaisy - Likeliest of the Dom voters to actually be a suit, IMO

3) Myself - Civvie

4) Timmer Not likely to be bad at this point, if maybe an indie

5)TH Not likely to be bad at this point

6) SVS Not likely to be bad at this point

7) Snow Dog, Sorcerer and for some reason the last to vote Dom, another Sorcerer) Boddy blackmail? Hatter? Would be an odd coincidence.

So, we know the identity of two of the Suits, with two remaining. Unfortunately, only *one* of the Dom voters fits the profile of a suit with any degree of confidence, and that's Daisy. Since it would be an incredible leap to assume that one suit voted to save Bass and another voted to save Dom, I'm forced to consider the likely scenario that one suit is in fact inactive.

:/

#2727

Long con, ya 'ave said dharma 'elper is Sorry and Sad aw game. 'a Bobby of this 're ya? Are ya George?

#2728

DH, I know you are right. We must have an inactive bad Suit, and I think the decider(s) on the Sorcerers is not you, and I doubt it was TH. LC is more of a strategic killer, as am I. I don't ever recall being bad with Daisy in a kill team context~ Fight Club was more of a recruiting context, although we killed too. So I don't know if she would kill active players over low posters.

You left Juliets out of your analysis. She was pretty active until recently. Did she say she was away for the weekend? I don't recall. There are no silencers left, so

Juliets is also a strategic killer imo.

#2729

Juliets was the second vote for DF and voted for Bass, late. Thus, I doubt she is a suit. She also voted Snowy when she could have easily voted for me to bring the vote at least a little closer. So sorcerer is also not likely.

#2730

Mongoose, that's a thought, but it doesn't make sense at all if there are 2 Suits alive IMO.

DH, why are you ruling out the possibility that juliets threw her teammate(s) under the bus? I'm not saying I think that's the case, but it's certainly a possibility, and it lines up with what we've seen from baddies so far.

I DO NOT think Daisy is bad. Now I'm not sure, but she's one of the people I still feel best about.

I honestly am tempted to vote a relatively low participant today since it's clear to me that one of them is a Suit, unless we can get a good idea of who Boddy might be.

#2731

By "not sure" I mean I'm not 100% sure, but nonetheless I'm not voting her today, and I implore others to heavily consider not doing so as well.

#2732

SVS, I already told you all my suspects and I am feeling about you the same way you are feeling about me to be frank, I'm really not feeling you as bad as I was before.the person I most suspect you keep vouching for. I have reason to suspect Bea but it's not iron clad, so let me ask you this, how much room for error do you feel like you have about Bea being good?

Other than Bea I don't have a solid lead because a couple day periods ago threw my suspicions upside down. I am however, fully behind lynching someone inactive at some point. I am looking at Sabie personally. She is participating in film director but hasn't done anything here. If I was going to lynch a no participator I would start there or maybe Lorab.

Linki: I've got read on Juliets but I can see why what appears to be a missed PM looks bad for her.

#2733

Spacedaisy wrote:SVS, I already told you all my suspects and I am feeling about you the same way you are feeling about me to be frank, I'm really not feeling you as bad as I was before.the person I most suspect you keep vouching for. I have reason to suspect Bea but it's not iron clad, so let me ask you this, how much room for error do you feel like you have about Bea being good?

Other than Bea I don't have a solid lead because a couple day periods ago threw my suspicions upside down. I am however, fully behind lynching someone inactive at some point. I am looking at Sabie personally. She is participating in film director but hasn't done anything here. If I was going to lynch a no participator I would start there or maybe Lorab.

Linki: I've got read on Juliets but I can see why what appears to be a missed PM looks bad for her.

This is a good point. I'd be fine considering this as well.

And I have literally no read on juliets myself, but that in itself concerns me a bit. I'm not sure I'd even be considering her today if it weren't for the missed PM, but I do think she needs to be discussed.

#2734

MovingPictures07 wrote:Mongoose, that's a thought, but it doesn't make sense at all if there are 2 Suits alive IMO.

DH, why are you ruling out the possibility that juliets threw her teammate(s) under the bus? I'm not saying I think that's the case, but it's certainly a possibility, and it lines up with what we've seen from baddies so far.

I DO NOT think Daisy is bad. Now I'm not sure, but she's one of the people I still feel best about.

I honestly am tempted to vote a relatively low participant today since it's clear to me that one of them is a Suit, unless we can get a good idea of who Boddy might be.

You think she threw her teammates under the bus twice? One of those times being the second person to vote for DF?

Not likely.

#2735

DharmaHelper wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Mongoose, that's a thought, but it doesn't make sense at all if there are 2 Suits alive IMO.

DH, why are you ruling out the possibility that juliets threw her teammate(s) under the bus? I'm not saying I think that's the case, but it's certainly a possibility, and it lines up with what we've seen from baddies so far.

I DO NOT think Daisy is bad. Now I'm not sure, but she's one of the people I still feel best about.

I honestly am tempted to vote a relatively low participant today since it's clear to me that one of them is a Suit, unless we can get a good idea of who Boddy might be.
You think she threw her teammates under the bus twice? One of those times being the second person to vote for DF?

Not likely.

Juliets would not thra a China Plate under the bus Bo-le Of Glue times?

I fin' the bleedin' people under scrutiny for the bloomin' lynch 're the bloody ones suggestin' we lynch a la poster.

#2736

timmer wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Mongoose, that's a thought, but it doesn't make sense at all if there are 2 Suits alive IMO.

DH, why are you ruling out the possibility that juliets threw her teammate(s) under the bus? I'm not saying I think that's the case, but it's certainly a possibility, and it lines up with what we've seen from baddies so far.

I DO NOT think Daisy is bad. Now I'm not sure, but she's one of the people I still feel best about.

I honestly am tempted to vote a relatively low participant today since it's clear to me that one of them is a Suit, unless we can get a good idea of who Boddy might be.
You think she threw her teammates under the bus twice? One of those times being the second person to vote for DF?

Not likely.
Juliets would not thra a China Plate under the bus Bo-le Of Glue times?

I fin' the bleedin' people under scrutiny for the bloomin' lynch 're the bloody ones suggestin' we lynch a la poster.

Once, maybe. Twice? Not even close.

#2737

Spacedaisy wrote: I am however, fully behind lynching someone inactive at some point. I am looking at Sabie personally.

Garn after la posters at this stage is wot Sorry and Sad guys do.

#2738

timmer wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote: I am however, fully behind lynching someone inactive at some point. I am looking at Sabie personally.
Garn after la posters at this stage is wot Sorry and Sad guys do.

SD also didn't vote for DF.

#2739

Spacedaisy wrote:SVS, I already told you all my suspects and I am feeling about you the same way you are feeling about me to be frank, I'm really not feeling you as bad as I was before.the person I most suspect you keep vouching for. I have reason to suspect Bea but it's not iron clad, so let me ask you this, how much room for error do you feel like you have about Bea being good?

Other than Bea I don't have a solid lead because a couple day periods ago threw my suspicions upside down. I am however, fully behind lynching someone inactive at some point. I am looking at Sabie personally. She is participating in film director but hasn't done anything here. If I was going to lynch a no participator I would start there or maybe Lorab.

Linki: I've got read on Juliets but I can see why what appears to be a missed PM looks bad for her.

What team do you think Bea is on? What is your opinion on Eloh? You think she is bad, too? And I did not see a post with your suspects other than Bea & I, could you link me to it?

I already said why I think bea is a civ; something she said, and something the host said. That is as far as I will go.

Why Sabie specifically? Can you point me to where she is bad? I am really curious why you picked her out of the low posters.

In one game I played here, Grimms, we had a no show teammate and Llama threw him under the bus for cred. In a game like this, with no modkills or replacements, it would be a smart move.

I am voting for Daisy. I have suspected her for days & days, the evidence is starting to point her way. She only mentioned DF to defend him, and in the Bass/Dom lynch she posted over a third of her post count to that point in one day pounding Dom. In my book, that equates to helping Bass. Now she wants to lynch a specific low poster. Why Sabie? You know she will come out bad?

Sorry if you think I am tunneling, Daisy, but I think you are a suit.

Linki, the only time she mentioned him was a defense of him.

#2740

Voting for Daisy as well. Sorry MP :P

#2741

You guys are going to REALLY regret this.

#2742

MovingPictures07 wrote:You guys are going to REALLY regret this.

She is the only living active Dom voter that looks remotely like a suit, do you have any other suggestions?

#2743

DharmaHelper wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:You guys are going to REALLY regret this.
She is the only living active Dom voter that looks remotely like a suit, do you have any other suggestions?

- juliets
- timmer (even though he was cleared by Sorcerers, he could be a Suit)
- Sabie, Lizzy, or any other low poster (it's OBVIOUS the Suits missed their PM, so if there are 2 of them, 1 of them is definitely a low poster)

What happened to your Made case?

And what happened to everyone wanting to look at Boomslang, including you?

I'm starting to think you're bad again.

#2744

When you see who I flip, consider what I've said.

I also received something last night but I don't understand the point of it. Whatever...

Also, That was a typo, it should say I haven't got a read on Juliets...

#2745

Also, there's bea, who I still am not convinced is civilian.

#2746

I'm voting Juliets because it's the best I have to go on. Good luck civs.

#2747

MovingPictures07 wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:You guys are going to REALLY regret this.
She is the only living active Dom voter that looks remotely like a suit, do you have any other suggestions?
- juliets
- timmer (even though he was cleared by Sorcerers, he could be a Suit)
- Sabie, Lizzy, or any other low poster (it's OBVIOUS the Suits missed their PM, so if there are 2 of them, 1 of them is definitely a low poster)

What happened to your Made case?

And what happened to everyone wanting to look at Boomslang, including you?

I'm starting to think you're bad again.

Made could be a suit I suppose, and he didn't vote in the Dom/Bass lynch which allows for the "at least one suit missed the vote" theory. I still want to look at him, I still want to look at Boom, but the evidence against SD (including your defending her, No Uing for her, threatening the thread, and her sudden guilt trip) Outweigh that, at least as it stands right now. If SD is lynched and *IS NOT* a suit, that would mean both suits missed the vote, and would tell us a lot.

Timmer, again, voted third for DF. There simply are not enough buses to account for that many teammates throwing other teammates under them.

In fact now that you mention it, during the Made/Llama lynch, SD also voted Llama (a civ). So, that is another point against her.

#2748

MovingPictures07 wrote:Also, there's bea, who I still am not convinced is civilian.

But I AM sure she is not bad. I will actively oppose a lynch of Bea. Also to you, if you suspect Bea, do you also suspect Eloh?

#2749

S~V~S wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Also, there's bea, who I still am not convinced is civilian.
But I AM sure she is not bad. I will actively oppose a lynch of Bea. Also to you, if you suspect Bea, do you also suspect Eloh?

I have no read on Elo.

#2750

MovingPictures07 wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Also, there's bea, who I still am not convinced is civilian.
But I AM sure she is not bad. I will actively oppose a lynch of Bea. Also to you, if you suspect Bea, do you also suspect Eloh?
I have no read on Elo.

But Bea & Eloh seem to be backing each other up, don't you think? They seem to trust each other. So if you think Bea is bad, do you think Eloh is mistaken? Or a baddie teammate? Do you think Bea has bamboozled her? Beaboozled her, as it were?

Who killed spacedaisy...I mean, of course you know. Should he die?