[END] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

#2851

Matt F wrote:On a scale of 1 to 10 of thinking MacD is scum, Golden...

3 =

#2852

Thanks Golden.

Just read MM. Seems like a lot of jokey posts and reasons for voting people have been...lame.

Switched his vote for 3J during Dusk 0, who eventually won, and even points out that by voting 3J, hurts his own chance of becoming CEO. Why would a civ do this?

Promises not to vote for 5 voters on Day 1 because of Dusk 0 events, one of them being birds (who was civvie), two of them being Sorsha and Devin (who are currently pingy to several players right now).

I dunno. If I had to say, I'd say scum, but I also see scum everywhere until I have a reason not to. Really, more posts with reads instead of jokey posts and better reasons for voting people in lynches would give me a better idea where he's at.

#2853

Golden wrote:
Matt F wrote:On a scale of 1 to 10 of thinking MacD is scum, Golden...

3 =

Yet thou has thy vote on him?

linki: lol MM can be the Godot of giving us the good stuff rather than joke stuff plenty times

#2854

I have to vote now. My phone is about to die and I'll have no way to charge it until I get home.

DEVIN THE OMNISCIENT

I do appreciate your effort to defend yourself Devin, but this is my decision.

#2855

Still wondering if we don't happen to have a silencer. Diiny hasn't said anything since D3. Sig either.

Also, RDW and Russ have been AWOL for quite some time.

#2856

Just looked at all the polls from the polls thread...

On Day 1, Day 3, and currently today, bcornett and Sorsha have voted the same way. On Day 2, Sorsha voted bcornett, though.

I don't know what this means, but just like with Elohcin, if Sorsha does flip baddie, does this mean she's still attempting to buddy up vote with people?

#2857

Okey dokey. Work beckons.

I am happy with a Sorsha, Devin, MacDougall, and Floyd lynch...in that order.

If MacD comes back in the thread, I'd really like to know who he thinks is town of those I've had pings on. Considering he vibed me bad yesterday for daring to call certain players civvies, his response should be really interesting.

Peace out

#2858

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I have to vote now. My phone is about to die and I'll have no way to charge it until I get home.

DEVIN THE OMNISCIENT

I do appreciate your effort to defend yourself Devin, but this is my decision.

Luv you too

#2859

My self-loathing in a nutshell

#2860

#2861

It does suck to see that my efforts were all for naught, though. At least in the cases of JJJ and Matt F.

#2862

Is there a smilie with a gun to his head?

#2863

@bcornett - I can't find your post in which you voted for me...

Linki: This is the closest we have, think..

#2864

EBWOP: * I think

#2865

What does everyone think of jjj, diiny and espers?

#2866

Ok sorry I was a little bit drunk and it maybe magnified my assholishness a bit.

Matt I have had minor pings on you for a few days but it's always been countered by genuine townie reactions. I felt like if I started going random ape shit at you you scum stuff could fall out. Your reaction has been quite genuine so I'm not really @ u m8.

The sorsha lynch bothers me. But with so few alternatives it must have scum on it and I really doubt scum would consider bussing another teammate so it puts me in two minds is all.

I will revisit some more players throughout the day while my boss isn't looking at me hahaha.

I know my change of behaviour comes across as bizarre but it is what it is.

seaside wrote:What does everyone think of jjj, diiny and espers?

Ok I must still be drunk.

#2867

seaside wrote:What does everyone think of jjj, diiny and espers?

I still want to vote for diiny. He seems to have completely disappeared.
No idea on the other 2.

#2868

seaside wrote:What does everyone think of jjj, diiny and espers?

J3:

Diiny:

Espers:

#2869

seaside, tells us more on your thoughts on espers. I can trace the other two as scumreads in your history, but not espers, prior to the GTH game. So what motivates you to call him bad?

#2870

Devin the Omniscient wrote:
seaside wrote:What does everyone think of jjj, diiny and espers?
I still want to vote for diiny. He seems to have completely disappeared.
No idea on the other 2.

Has Diiny Rooter at unwarmed today? blowhole porringer simpering he is silenced?

#2871

Golden wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:
seaside wrote:What does everyone think of jjj, diiny and espers?
I still want to vote for diiny. He seems to have completely disappeared.
No idea on the other 2.
Has Diiny Rooter at unwarmed today? blowhole porringer simpering he is silenced?

That's why I'm still going for Sorsha.

#2872

Black Rock wrote:http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 40#p184571

I decided to link to this post instead of quoting it since it's so damn long. I think a lot of thought has gone into this post. Two people that stand out to me is Epignosis and Russ.

I'm not used to Epi have a positive look at LC. He often thinks LC is bad and leaves him alone as neutral. With all the crap that was going on with LC I'm surprised he didn't jump on the lynch train himself. He has gone after him for less.

Russ didn't seem to want to make up his mind. Now I would have to go back and read Russ to make up my mind on him as well but if I recall his was a last minute vote changer as well.

After reading this particular post I have no suspicion of Sorsha. Sorsha and LC have been playing together for eons and they respect each other. LC has been really bad at reading her, she is a hard player to read. I believe that to be an honest assessment.
Sorsha
votes LC... for CEO spot (good leadership)
D1 implies she read something into LC's bait tactic, but later questions his choice for bea; finds his replies unrealistic
doesn't find LC to have backpedalled
===
> agreed with b24 on BWT's case, voted BWT
Just a copy and paste I didn't keep the fancy colouring.

This is not a new tactic LC has used and he often does try it as a civvie, not surprised she believed him. Hell I would have.

Anyways, I'm not voting for Sorsha today. I'd be surprised if she was bad.

Epi has been on my sus list this game because he's been treating me different from in past games as well. It seems like he nearly always thinks I'm bad and goes after me. This game would give him a perfect shot at that and he's not taking it. I know a lot of players have him down as civ but I would not be shocked at all if he's actually the serial killer.

#2873

Forgot the poll ends earlier now. Will have to vote soon! Probably won't stick with Russ since he's unlikely to be lynched today. I still don't think Sorsha is bad. Will consider a Devin vote more strongly and see if I want to commit to that.

#2874

Bullzeye wrote:Forgot the poll ends earlier now. Will have to vote soon! Probably won't stick with Russ since he's unlikely to be lynched today. I still don't think Sorsha is bad. Will consider a Devin vote more strongly and see if I want to commit to that.

Shall we have a repeat of Recruitment IV old friend?

Only difference is, I'm not bad

#2875

Voting bullzeye

Because he straitlaced the DFaraday that anaemia deafened locate DooberDoes targeting is bad.

I prefer cocaine lynch of night actions to Dark Willow lynch executed virago bleag Kahlan responses have TokyoRose osmanli to Dusty Spoon.

#2876

I can't wait for you to start making sense, Golden.

#2877

Bullzeye wrote:I can't wait for you to start making sense, Golden.

That makes two unexaggerated us.

Although there are some deoxidization who might feel I founder make sense, Freckles without conglutination added disadvantage gabel stoup insanified.

#2878

Russtifinko wrote:What'd I say? Being accused by Epi is a death knell.

You keep saying this. Is it proving to be true here?

Sorsha wrote:
Russtifinko wrote:What'd I say? Being accused by Epi is a death knell. Rico's leading in votes and I'm tied for second. He's playing you guys.

I had even less time than I hoped today, and I hoped for relatively little. Voting Sorsha based on previous pings, the way yesterday went down vote-wise, and because she has enough votes that it could actually matter.
I agree that we're probably getting played by epi but there aren't enough votes there for me to vote that way today.

Played? In what sense? Is this it?

Sorsha wrote:Epi has been on my sus list this game because he's been treating me different from in past games as well. It seems like he nearly always thinks I'm bad and goes after me. This game would give him a perfect shot at that and he's not taking it. I know a lot of players have him down as civ but I would not be shocked at all if he's actually the serial killer.

If so, I want evidence of this, because I am almost certain that, in the times we have played together, I rarely ever went after you.

#2879

MacDougall wrote:I think we really have to lynch sorsha. I feel like it's the key to breaking the game open today. She either flips scum and leaves behind a tasty breadcrumb trail, or flips town and leaves behind a tasty breadcrumb trail. Trusting Golden again seems like a nice way to get another townie killed. We've got a scum dead inside the first four days in a large game. We can afford a tactical lynch. Sorsha is a good lynch candidate for up front scum play as well as being the best possible lynch from a tactical perspective. Short of someone saying "I am scum" my vote won't be changing today.

Sorsha's play being scum is well documented, you only have to look at her recent posts to get a sense of posting nervously as scum playing poorly with a lynch on them tend to do.

DrWilgy... Are you tunneling me because I said you were scum in that Jimmy's game? Oh my God, u suck brah.

Lynching someone just for clues instead of lynching Mafia which would most likely skip the Night phase and thus prevent two kills?

No thanks.

#2880

Third time raising this, because I don't see anyone answering.

For those of you voting Sorsha, does this post make you think she is a Long Con teammate or does it strike you as a genuine interaction?

Sorsha wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Sorsha wrote:RIPIYWG guys

Long Con can you explain why you chose bea and what your ideal outcome would have been yesterday?
I chose bea because I saw the opportunity to make the case I did based on the things she had said. She's a good target for this kind of thing, because unlike Epig or Golden or Llama, she's less likely to take an accusation like that and run with it until it's a big polarized head-to-head between me and my accused. My ideal outcome would have been for someone from The Syndicate to take my points and agree with them and vote for bea, revealing themselves as someone willing to go along with a case because it looks good on the surface. Following this, a baddie lynch, led by me, as I humbly accept cheering Civvie accolades. Alternate ideal: bea actually is a baddie and scumslips in some way in response to the accusation.
This just seems really idealistic but not very realistic. I think you’d just have easily lynched a civ with that tactic. Its easy to say that bwt didn’t look suspicious after we know he was town but his behavior during the last lynch (flip flopping between sig and bea and then back again). I’m wondering why you wouldn’t have found him suspicious for following your lead on bea. I know you said you didn't think he was suspicious because he found his own reason but, if you hadn't of posted your case on bea I doubt he'd have looked at her.

More realistic: it develops some conversation where I get some pings from people and keep them in mind as the game progresses. However, despite opinions that it was a convincing argument, it ended up being too clumsy, and most of the conversation was about me instead, which was less helpful. It could still bear fruit, as the lynches go on - when we end up lynching a baddie, I'll be checking up on their response, if any, to the situation. Maybe someone who accused me of being bad will end up being bad, which will necessitate a second look at bea.
Time will tell I guess.

#2881

Well, this is anxiety-driven.

#2882

Bullzeye wrote:I can't wait for you to start making sense, Golden.

Stop making sense.

#2883

TheFloyd73 wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:I can't wait for you to start making sense, Golden.
Stop making sense.

In 23 years nobody has ever said that to me before. I don't believe I ever started. If I did, I'm very sorry. I won't do it again.

#2884

Epignosis wrote:
Russtifinko wrote:What'd I say? Being accused by Epi is a death knell.
You keep saying this. Is it proving to be true here?

Sorsha wrote:
Russtifinko wrote:What'd I say? Being accused by Epi is a death knell. Rico's leading in votes and I'm tied for second. He's playing you guys.

I had even less time than I hoped today, and I hoped for relatively little. Voting Sorsha based on previous pings, the way yesterday went down vote-wise, and because she has enough votes that it could actually matter.
I agree that we're probably getting played by epi but there aren't enough votes there for me to vote that way today.
Played? In what sense? Is this it?

Sorsha wrote:Epi has been on my sus list this game because he's been treating me different from in past games as well. It seems like he nearly always thinks I'm bad and goes after me. This game would give him a perfect shot at that and he's not taking it. I know a lot of players have him down as civ but I would not be shocked at all if he's actually the serial killer.
If so, I want evidence of this, because I am almost certain that, in the times we have played together, I rarely ever went after you.

Look at the last two games we played. Gentlemen's guide you were after me on day one which led to it being me vs you and led to your lynch (we were both civs there) and in recruitment you tried calling me a liar for saying I was unrecruited (and I wasn't recruited at that point) a day or two later you attempted to nk me, by that time I was recruited and was a civ. (luckily I was a dragon that night and you ended up getting yourself killed)

#2885

Devin the Omniscient wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:Forgot the poll ends earlier now. Will have to vote soon! Probably won't stick with Russ since he's unlikely to be lynched today. I still don't think Sorsha is bad. Will consider a Devin vote more strongly and see if I want to commit to that.
Shall we have a repeat of Recruitment IV old friend?
Only difference is, I'm not bad

No, surely not

#2886

seaside wrote:What does everyone think of jjj, diiny and espers?

The order i would lynch them is espers > diiny > jjj. I'm reading jjj as jenuine atm.

#2887

Sorsha wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Russtifinko wrote:What'd I say? Being accused by Epi is a death knell.
You keep saying this. Is it proving to be true here?

Sorsha wrote:
Russtifinko wrote:What'd I say? Being accused by Epi is a death knell. Rico's leading in votes and I'm tied for second. He's playing you guys.

I had even less time than I hoped today, and I hoped for relatively little. Voting Sorsha based on previous pings, the way yesterday went down vote-wise, and because she has enough votes that it could actually matter.
I agree that we're probably getting played by epi but there aren't enough votes there for me to vote that way today.
Played? In what sense? Is this it?

Sorsha wrote:Epi has been on my sus list this game because he's been treating me different from in past games as well. It seems like he nearly always thinks I'm bad and goes after me. This game would give him a perfect shot at that and he's not taking it. I know a lot of players have him down as civ but I would not be shocked at all if he's actually the serial killer.
If so, I want evidence of this, because I am almost certain that, in the times we have played together, I rarely ever went after you.
Look at the last two games we played. Gentlemen's guide you were after me on day one which led to it being me vs you and led to your lynch (we were both civs there) and in recruitment you tried calling me a liar for saying I was unrecruited (and I wasn't recruited at that point) a day or two later you attempted to nk me, by that time I was recruited and was a civ. (luckily I was a dragon that night and you ended up getting yourself killed)

Last two games =/= "nearly always."

I also don't see how getting myself killed (since I was the civilian recruiter) was lucky for you if you were a civilian, but okay.

I could go through every game we've been in together and I can demonstrate that your characterization of me in this way (and therefore suspecting me for not fitting into your mold of perception) is inaccurate if I must.

I'd rather do other things tonight though.

#2888

Epignosis wrote:
Sorsha wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Russtifinko wrote:What'd I say? Being accused by Epi is a death knell.
You keep saying this. Is it proving to be true here?

Sorsha wrote:
Russtifinko wrote:What'd I say? Being accused by Epi is a death knell. Rico's leading in votes and I'm tied for second. He's playing you guys.

I had even less time than I hoped today, and I hoped for relatively little. Voting Sorsha based on previous pings, the way yesterday went down vote-wise, and because she has enough votes that it could actually matter.
I agree that we're probably getting played by epi but there aren't enough votes there for me to vote that way today.
I have time, go ahead.
Played? In what sense? Is this it?

Sorsha wrote:Epi has been on my sus list this game because he's been treating me different from in past games as well. It seems like he nearly always thinks I'm bad and goes after me. This game would give him a perfect shot at that and he's not taking it. I know a lot of players have him down as civ but I would not be shocked at all if he's actually the serial killer.
If so, I want evidence of this, because I am almost certain that, in the times we have played together, I rarely ever went after you.
Look at the last two games we played. Gentlemen's guide you were after me on day one which led to it being me vs you and led to your lynch (we were both civs there) and in recruitment you tried calling me a liar for saying I was unrecruited (and I wasn't recruited at that point) a day or two later you attempted to nk me, by that time I was recruited and was a civ. (luckily I was a dragon that night and you ended up getting yourself killed)
Last two games =/= "nearly always."

I also don't see how getting myself killed (since I was the civilian recruiter) was lucky for you if you were a civilian, but okay.

I could go through every game we've been in together and I can demonstrate that your characterization of me in this way (and therefore suspecting me for not fitting into your mold of perception) is inaccurate if I must.

I'd rather do other things tonight though.

#2889

TheFloyd73 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Sorsha wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Russtifinko wrote:What'd I say? Being accused by Epi is a death knell.
You keep saying this. Is it proving to be true here?

Sorsha wrote:
Russtifinko wrote:What'd I say? Being accused by Epi is a death knell. Rico's leading in votes and I'm tied for second. He's playing you guys.

I had even less time than I hoped today, and I hoped for relatively little. Voting Sorsha based on previous pings, the way yesterday went down vote-wise, and because she has enough votes that it could actually matter.
I agree that we're probably getting played by epi but there aren't enough votes there for me to vote that way today.
I have time, go ahead.
Played? In what sense? Is this it?

Sorsha wrote:Epi has been on my sus list this game because he's been treating me different from in past games as well. It seems like he nearly always thinks I'm bad and goes after me. This game would give him a perfect shot at that and he's not taking it. I know a lot of players have him down as civ but I would not be shocked at all if he's actually the serial killer.
If so, I want evidence of this, because I am almost certain that, in the times we have played together, I rarely ever went after you.
Look at the last two games we played. Gentlemen's guide you were after me on day one which led to it being me vs you and led to your lynch (we were both civs there) and in recruitment you tried calling me a liar for saying I was unrecruited (and I wasn't recruited at that point) a day or two later you attempted to nk me, by that time I was recruited and was a civ. (luckily I was a dragon that night and you ended up getting yourself killed)
Last two games =/= "nearly always."

I also don't see how getting myself killed (since I was the civilian recruiter) was lucky for you if you were a civilian, but okay.

I could go through every game we've been in together and I can demonstrate that your characterization of me in this way (and therefore suspecting me for not fitting into your mold of perception) is inaccurate if I must.

I'd rather do other things tonight though.

Sorry, stupid text didn't come up.
I have time, please demonstrate.

#2890

Epignosis wrote: Last two games =/= "nearly always."

In all fairness, can you not see how the fact it's a very recent experience would make her use language like that? If someone acted a certain way toward you in two of the past two games, you might say something similar. I mean not you specifically since you're a great lover of proper English, but some people might be inclined to do that. I probably would.

#2891

Okay first thing sorry about the lack of activity this phase I see Sorsha is leading with votes again. I've got about ten pages to catch up on but , I won't be voting for Sorsha today though, and am suspicious at those pushing her wagon.

What is everyones thoughts on Chotus and not wanting to talk about the SK that really pinged me.

#2892

Bullzeye wrote:
Epignosis wrote: Last two games =/= "nearly always."
In all fairness, can you not see how the fact it's a very recent experience would make her use language like that? If someone acted a certain way toward you in two of the past two games, you might say something similar. I mean not you specifically since you're a great lover of proper English, but some people might be inclined to do that. I probably would.

Casual language is all well and good, but it's my responsibility to point out when something isn't true, because over two dozen other people will read those words and take an incorrect appraisal of me. It is, after all, part of her rationale for suspecting me, so it is in my best interest to counter it.

#2893

I am going to *Vote for Devin*. Two of his voters so far are people I feel moderately-to-very good about, and I think JJJ in particular raised decent points against him. I'm more suspicious of Russti, but he has no votes today and I'd like to not see Sorsha lynched since I doubt she's bad. Therefore I'm casting my vote sort of tactically for someone I think is more likely to be bad in hopes we can lynch a baddie rather than a civ today. So by tactically I suppose I just mean "how one is supposed to".

Linki Epi - Fair enough. I share the general sentiment of your post but I think sometimes it's possible to over-correct people. I hadn't realised she was making such a big deal of it either.

#2894

Bullzeye wrote:I am going to *Vote for Devin*. Two of his voters so far are people I feel moderately-to-very good about, and I think JJJ in particular raised decent points against him. I'm more suspicious of Russti, but he has no votes today and I'd like to not see Sorsha lynched since I doubt she's bad. Therefore I'm casting my vote sort of tactically for someone I think is more likely to be bad in hopes we can lynch a baddie rather than a civ today. So by tactically I suppose I just mean "how one is supposed to".

There's a few people I want to study (Devin is one), but at this stage my opinion on Russtifinko hasn't changed.

Linki Epi - Fair enough. I share the general sentiment of your post but I think sometimes it's possible to over-correct people. I hadn't realised she was making such a big deal of it either.[/quote]

Dude, she accused me of being the serial killer because I am not trying to get her lynched.

#2895

MacDougall wrote:I'm actually unvoting sorsha and changing my vote to MattF. Something about him is not what it seems my friends. And I aim to get to the bottom of it.

I don't get why you've switched from Sorsha, at one point saying you wont switch for anything less than someone saying "i am scum", to Matt F because of a few "pings". This is a significant bandwagon.

#2896

Fixed the tags:

Bullzeye wrote:I am going to *Vote for Devin*. Two of his voters so far are people I feel moderately-to-very good about, and I think JJJ in particular raised decent points against him. I'm more suspicious of Russti, but he has no votes today and I'd like to not see Sorsha lynched since I doubt she's bad. Therefore I'm casting my vote sort of tactically for someone I think is more likely to be bad in hopes we can lynch a baddie rather than a civ today. So by tactically I suppose I just mean "how one is supposed to".

There's a few people I want to study (Devin is one), but at this stage my opinion on Russtifinko hasn't changed.

Bullzeye wrote:Linki Epi - Fair enough. I share the general sentiment of your post but I think sometimes it's possible to over-correct people. I hadn't realised she was making such a big deal of it either.

Dude, she accused me of being the serial killer because I am not trying to get her lynched.

#2897

Epignosis wrote:
Dude, she accused me of being the serial killer because I am not trying to get her lynched.

It's possible I'd not paid enough attention there. I want to go reread this case because I want to understand how not wanting to kill someone makes you a killer. FWIW I think you've both been coming off pretty genuine so far.

#2898

So...I think I will vote Sorsha too. I would rather vote Floyd but a vote on him would mean nothing at this point.

#2899

Woops, EBWOP...haha, I underlined and bolded the wrong thing

Votes Sorsha

#2900

Golden wrote:Voting bullzeye

Because he straitlaced the DFaraday that anaemia deafened locate DooberDoes targeting is bad.

I prefer cocaine lynch of night actions to Dark Willow lynch executed virago bleag Kahlan responses have TokyoRose osmanli to Dusty Spoon.

This post takes me a long journey. Some good, some being screwed over for being in a LC game.

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