Psych Mafia [END]

[Epignosis]

Don't be absent, Sig.

Don't be a faker Dom I'm not absent.

I'm not I still am probably the top poster.

This attempt to lynch me is foolish and wrong and will not succeed I'm not dying day 1 again.

@Eloh Yeah I was looking for things day 0 I was ready to start the game and not have any more fluff, plus I wanted to get going so I did. I see nothing wrong with this, also what an obvious No U vote.

I'd also like to point out BigDamnHero is voting for me based off of pre game talk as in nobody had their role card talk. This is a perfect cover for a mafia member to do and if not a mafia member a very bad townie. don't be a ignoramus and don't be a dupe lynch someone other than me.
Don't be a person who is hoodwinked by Eloh.

It took you ages to get back to my question. I don't think you're low posting, but I wanted an answer bc I thought (resutl of lynch gives me pause) you were bad.

Your response, though, I think, was well analyzed by Rob.

Am I not allowed to have a life.

I'm very suspicious of Epi, Matt, and Dom right now. I suspect at least one if mafia, one is potential Ying/Yang, and the other is most likely a civ who I'm wrong about.

Sig, what's your point?
Throw three names out there and say you could be wrong about any of them?

Do you think sig is bad?

[BigDamnHero]

@HOSTS- What happens to confiscated items from people in jail? Does Buzz keep them for himself? Can he use them? Are they returned after a prisoner is released?

It says "most" used items are put in the safe...does that mean some items have a finite use? If so, will we be made aware if an item (identified or not) is no longer in play?

[Spacedaisy]

@HOSTS- What happens to confiscated items from people in jail? Does Buzz keep them for himself? Can he use them? Are they returned after a prisoner is released?

It says "most" used items are put in the safe...does that mean some items have a finite use? If so, will we be made aware if an item (identified or not) is no longer in play?

All item descriptions have their particular use instructions included in their description with the exception of one item which has no instructions whatsoever. Unless told otherwise an item is used at night and then once the person holding it has used it once, it will be returned to the safe. If the safe combination is cracked, the items will come out of the safe and return into play in Gus' possession. If Gus holds more than three items he will have to give away any excess items since no one can hold more than three items at a time. The items that are not used in this way will specify how and when they are used within their description given to the player who receives them.

Buzz confiscates any items held in the possession of a player who is arrested. They are his, to either use or gift as he sees fit. He may only hold three items though, so if he confiscates items and it pushes him over three he must immediately gift them to someone else.

[Spacedaisy]

The arresting function should be clarified. Since Matt is arrested, he cannot vote, post or use his power. He gains BTSC with Marlowe until he is released. He cannot be lynched or killed while in Juliet's custody either. This is why he is off the poll.

[rabbit8]

I'm playing this game and will be able to pick up and actually read the thread Friday, in case anyone is asking me anything.... ?????

[sig]

Well I'm not surprised I believe the mafia attempted to kill me last night and they failed.


I think, no I'm becoming increasingly confident Epi, Dom, and Matt need to be lynched. One or two are mafia and the other is Ying/Yang. Now this was a mafia kill and I believe it was directed at me since I'm being active and was right about one or multiple mafia members.

Now this is a day 2 read, so I might be wrong, but Epi seems very mafiaish this game not posting much at all and being very under the radar, this is different then his BattleStar gameplay and more like his Turf War gameplay, I hate what Matt did at the end of the last phase this is very very pingy. Dom is a little bit different I just have a really bad gut feeling on him.

also yay I'm off the poll have fun trying to get rid of me again.

linki: Of course.

My laptop is still toast so I'm posting from work now that the bosses are gone home... Sig, can you flesh this out? If I'm understanding you, you are suggesting that the late surge against you in the lynch was baddie-led, and you say that Epig, Dom and Matt are the main focus for you. But if this was baddie-led, then doesn't that mean that Scotty should be your #1 priority? There are only 3 baddies... if they were scrambling, it was to save someone no?, so it has to be Scotty who was being saved?

I'm just confused as to why you are suggesting this thought process but including Dom, who didn't vote you, and NOT concentrating on Scotty. Am I misunderstanding?

I'm working off of this:

Scotty
4
SokothQultuq (7), insertnamehere (11), DFaraday (14), LoRab (15) 20%

sig
4
BigDamnHero (2), Elohcin (9), Epignosis (19), Matt (20) 20%


I'll catch furthur up as my workload allows.

This is what I did a poor job of trying to express earlier. Thanks, timmer. Also long time, no see! Good to be in a game with you.

So even though I think sig is good, I don't think we should blindly follow him or anything.

Oh I agree with this following me blindly will most likely end not so well, however there is a certain level of followness I think would be okay. :P


To answer Timmer and clear it up, I'm not connecting Epi and Matt/Scotty at all. I think Matt/Scotty could be mafia and Epi/Dom could be Ying or Yang.

I suspect Matt for his last minute actions last phase and obvious save attempt for scotty and trying to get me lynched in a very underhanded way.
I suspect Dom based 100% on gut he is just pinging me like crazy for some reason, but I have no real reason to it. So I believe he should be watched.
Epi is doing his standard baddie behavior, he is lurking more, not leading the town as much, and being more condescending when accused. This is exactly like his behavior in Turf War when he was bad, compared to BSG in which I thought he was bad, but he wasn't. So this is a combination of meta and gut mainly.

I do believe if we're going to lynch one of these three we start with either Matt or Epi. Mainly since the longer baddie Epi is around the harder it is to lynch him.

Sig, you think Mafia tried to kill you last night and you survived? What makes you think this?

I couldn't say one way or the other, but I'm fairly confident the mafia did target me since I had named some of their members

Or the mafia believes that I'm Shawn and they killed me so Ying and Yang could kill more people.
Either way I believe someone who I called out and said should be lynched at night was mafia.

Also, I would be inclined to move on from sig. I don't think he's the Yin/Yang guy because I don't see that person throwing themselves out in the open and potentially revealing their role this early.

He didn't exactly throw himself in the open, moreso he was leading a lynch train and his actions lead to more votes. I think it's still likely.

I kinda did though, if you compare me getting lynched in this game to others you'll see how laid back I was. I was also willing to switch my vote away from Scotty thus lowering the gap between me and him which put me in danger of being lynched. So I didn't fight the lynch. You want to see examples of me fighting lynches look at many of my past games.

Either sig had a bulletproof vest, is Shawn or he's talking out of his butt

Why are you putting a target on my back?
Why would I just talk outta my butt?

Once again note Epi's game play and how he is acting I see a very noticeable difference from his Civ self.

[sig]

Don't be absent, Sig.

Don't be a faker Dom I'm not absent.

I'm not I still am probably the top poster.

This attempt to lynch me is foolish and wrong and will not succeed I'm not dying day 1 again.

@Eloh Yeah I was looking for things day 0 I was ready to start the game and not have any more fluff, plus I wanted to get going so I did. I see nothing wrong with this, also what an obvious No U vote.

I'd also like to point out BigDamnHero is voting for me based off of pre game talk as in nobody had their role card talk. This is a perfect cover for a mafia member to do and if not a mafia member a very bad townie. don't be a ignoramus and don't be a dupe lynch someone other than me.
Don't be a person who is hoodwinked by Eloh.

It took you ages to get back to my question. I don't think you're low posting, but I wanted an answer bc I thought (resutl of lynch gives me pause) you were bad.

Your response, though, I think, was well analyzed by Rob.

Am I not allowed to have a life.

I'm very suspicious of Epi, Matt, and Dom right now. I suspect at least one if mafia, one is potential Ying/Yang, and the other is most likely a civ who I'm wrong about.

Sig, what's your point?
Throw three names out there and say you could be wrong about any of them?

I doubt I got 3/3 right, and I'm willing to admit my gut and theories have been wrong in the past. So I see nothing wrong with what I'm saying why are you attempting to weaken my credentials instead of adding your thoughts on any players?

[sig]

For little to no reason, but I could see you not having anything to do with this. MAtt on the other hand is no doubt mafia for that last minute switching to attempt and save scotty.

It is silly to vote off scotty but you'll vote for me for switching away from scotty since I thought it was also not smart to vote for him. So instead you'll lynch, this makes no sense what so ever you're a baddie.


I feel confident about my chances to live. If I do die, make sure to lynch Matt and then Scotty.

If you think Matt was trying to save Scotty, wouldn't it make more sense to lynch Scotty first?

@Scotty, I was referring to how your rolecard comments sounded like an attempt at avoiding responsibility in the early going. But now that you've been around contributing, I'm feeling better about you.

Personally, I don't think it's optimal strategy for a baddie team to go for a D1 save. It's been known to happen from time to time, but it basically blows the team up as soon as any one of them get lynched. sig, you seem really confident about Dom, Epi, and Matt. And Scotty by extension. Any posts or behaviors beyond the votes that you could point out as reasons?

Of those, Matt is the only one I'm on right now, but I'm trying to keep an open mind about him. Our last interaction was mildly confrontational and my judgment may be skewed there.

See I disagree, with only three mafia members loosing a teammate (especially if they have a good abilty) day 1 is horrible. It usually gives the civs momentum and is a massive hit for the mafia team. Not to mention day 1 lynches very rarely go to be day 2 lynches so saving your mafia member day 1 serves dual purposes. Plus you can always wriggle out of suspicion I did in the Scrimmage when I defended my mafia member from being lynched.

[timmer]

So shouldn't we lynch Scotty, then? I still don't get why you list a group of players, some of whom may have been pulling a baddie save, but you don't concentrate on the guy who was allegedly saved. Why only lis Scotty as an "and Scotty" at the end. I've always questioned the logic of going after players for saving a baddie when you haven't proven the person who wad saved was indeed bad.

On my phone will post as I can

[Scotty]

So shouldn't we lynch Scotty, then? I still don't get why you list a group of players, some of whom may have been pulling a baddie save, but you don't concentrate on the guy who was allegedly saved. Why only lis Scotty as an "and Scotty" at the end. I've always questioned the logic of going after players for saving a baddie when you haven't proven the person who wad saved was indeed bad.

On my phone will post as I can

No, timmer. We should not do that thing you mentioned.

I would like to vote Dom, Epi or the Klingon today.

Voting for Sokoth now. Could change, who knows if I'll have time to get back on to make a case or change it. If Epi or Dom get votes, I'll see if I can jump on that too.

[Scotty]

Oh? Wilgy already voted Dom.

Voting Dom

[Elohcin]

I'm not really agreeing with anything that sig has put out there so far. I just don't see it. And I hate it, but I really don't have anything to put out there myself. I am just having a hard time reading anyone this game. I know the thread has been pretty quiet so far, so maybe that's it.

[BigDamnHero]

So THIS has me

[quote="

So shouldn't we lynch Scotty, then? I still don't get why you list a group of players, some of whom may have been pulling a baddie save, but you don't concentrate on the guy who was allegedly saved. Why only lis Scotty as an "and Scotty" at the end. I've always questioned the logic of going after players for saving a baddie when you haven't proven the person who wad saved was indeed bad.

On my phone will post as I can

No, timmer. We should not do that thing you mentioned.

I would like to vote Dom, Epi or the Klingon today.

Voting for Sokoth now. Could change, who knows if I'll have time to get back on to make a case or change it. If Epi or Dom get votes, I'll see if I can jump on that too.

Scotty"]Oh? Wilgy already voted Dom.

Voting Dom[/quote]

First Scotty lists 3 people he thinks should be voted for then in the next sentence says he voting for a 4th...

THEN...in the VERY NEXT POST...already changes his vote presumably because someone else voted for one of the names he first mentioned...

Now I may have been out of mafia for a while, and apparently changing votes is allowed/the norm...but even so, Scotty has just buried the needle on the suspish-o-meter

[Epignosis]

Epi is doing his standard baddie behavior, he is lurking more, not leading the town as much, and being more condescending when accused. This is exactly like his behavior in Turf War when he was bad, compared to BSG in which I thought he was bad, but he wasn't. So this is a combination of meta and gut mainly.

It kills me when people think they've got me figured out on the basis of two or three games. "Epi isn't posting a lot, so he's bad!" You can keep on with that, and guess what? You'd be right...some of the time.

I'm feeling generous, sig, so I'm going to do something I don't normally do. I'm going to tell you about what you usually do when you're good. You come out hard against people who vote for you, make wild suggestions about their alignments, and make yourself to be the center of the mafia universe.

Don't believe me? Watch:

I think, no I'm becoming increasingly confident Epi, Dom, and Matt need to be lynched.

You come out hard against people who vote for you...

One or two are mafia and the other is Ying/Yang.

...make wild suggestions about their alignments...

Now this was a mafia kill and I believe it was directed at me since I'm being active and was right about one or multiple mafia members.

...and make yourself out to be the center of the mafia universe.

We haven't gotten here yet, but when you're shown to be wrong about someone who voted for you, you'll double down on the others. I'm not Miss Cleo, but that's what will happen. That's what civilian sig does. That's what you're doing now. That, coupled with the obvious business (that, ironically, you got mad at Quin for calling attention to even though you already think mafia tried to kill you), makes me 97% sure of your role, and that you should be heard and not dismissed. Unfortunately, you will be dismissed because of what I've outlined above. What I'm hoping from you is that you'll consider all the angles and whether they make sense with the evidence.

Like me, for instance. You have called me mafia, and you believe mafia tried to kill you. Very well. If I am with the Crooked Cops, it means I tried to kill you even though I know it's the most ill-advised kill choice possible. If I am Yin or Yang, then what was I doing with my vote? Saving Scotty? If so, then that means Scotty is Yin and I am Yang, which further means I...can't be lynched. Yet you are calling for my lynch today.

sig, you've been given what you asked for. All I'm asking is that you think through your suspects and consider what possible motivations they have.

And...

I do believe if we're going to lynch one of these three we start with either Matt or Epi. Mainly since the longer baddie Epi is around the harder it is to lynch him.

...how in the hell am I harder to lynch the longer I am around?

[Epignosis]

Regarding the kill, I don't think the mafia tried to take out sig. As I said, that's ill-advised.

Instead...

Crooked Cops (3)

One of them may kill every night. They learn the role of their victims.

Jerry Carp – May only use the kill if (Secrets)

Lou Gamble - May only use the kill if (Secrets)

Jack Atwater – May only use the kill if (Secrets)

Note the wording. "May" kill. Mother may I? No you may not. Perhaps none of these three goons satisfied whatever condition enabled them to kill. Hence no kill.

Alternatively...

Yin and Yang (2)

Collectively they may kill every day. They learn the role of their victims.

May select a victim every day. That victim will die at the end of the following day, 72 hours later, unless Shawn can solve the series of riddles and clues that they leave for him.

Mr. Yin – Survives all night kill attempts.

Mr. Yang – Survives all lynch attempts.

One of those goons tried to pop Mr. Yin. If that's the case, then they are going to have to lead Mr. Yin to the noose, but they aren't going to want to be obvious about it. Something to keep an eye out for.

[Scotty]

So THIS has me

[quote="

So shouldn't we lynch Scotty, then? I still don't get why you list a group of players, some of whom may have been pulling a baddie save, but you don't concentrate on the guy who was allegedly saved. Why only lis Scotty as an "and Scotty" at the end. I've always questioned the logic of going after players for saving a baddie when you haven't proven the person who wad saved was indeed bad.

On my phone will post as I can

No, timmer. We should not do that thing you mentioned.

I would like to vote Dom, Epi or the Klingon today.

Voting for Sokoth now. Could change, who knows if I'll have time to get back on to make a case or change it. If Epi or Dom get votes, I'll see if I can jump on that too.

Scotty"]Oh? Wilgy already voted Dom.

Voting Dom

First Scotty lists 3 people he thinks should be voted for then in the next sentence says he voting for a 4th...

THEN...in the VERY NEXT POST...already changes his vote presumably because someone else voted for one of the names he first mentioned...

Now I may have been out of mafia for a while, and apparently changing votes is allowed/the norm...but even so, Scotty has just buried the needle on the suspish-o-meter[/quote]
K.

Who else do you think is suspicious, Big Hero 6? Instead of me?

[Scotty]

Regarding the kill, I don't think the mafia tried to take out sig. As I said, that's ill-advised.

Instead...

Crooked Cops (3)

One of them may kill every night. They learn the role of their victims.

Jerry Carp – May only use the kill if (Secrets)

Lou Gamble - May only use the kill if (Secrets)

Jack Atwater – May only use the kill if (Secrets)

Note the wording. "May" kill. Mother may I? No you may not. Perhaps none of these three goons satisfied whatever condition enabled them to kill. Hence no kill.

Alternatively...

Yin and Yang (2)

Collectively they may kill every day. They learn the role of their victims.

May select a victim every day. That victim will die at the end of the following day, 72 hours later, unless Shawn can solve the series of riddles and clues that they leave for him.

Mr. Yin – Survives all night kill attempts.

Mr. Yang – Survives all lynch attempts.

One of those goons tried to pop Mr. Yin. If that's the case, then they are going to have to lead Mr. Yin to the noose, but they aren't going to want to be obvious about it. Something to keep an eye out for.

This post is a placeholder post that gives nothing not already said. It's like hot tea on the porch in 100 degrees. Not useful.

[Epignosis]

Neither of those has been said.

[BigDamnHero]

@Scotty: Sig's behavior has me concerned, but he's not lynch able today...possibly ever...

Quinn's post potentially outing our civ leader has me scratching my head...

I get mostly positive vibes from Epi...

Rabbit has seemed quiet for an experienced Mafia-er...

[BigDamnHero]

Going over the roles, I don't see any curse powers, so methinks Scotty maybe used an item...

[Elohcin]

I, for one, found Epi's posts enlightening even though I had recently re-read the roles just this morning.

[Epignosis]

I'm surprised by the reaction I got from Scotty there.

He called my second post a "placeholder" post. A placeholder for what? I'm not going back and editing it. He made that comment, but didn't comment on anything I had said to sig, which was a far more substantive post.

I'm surprised because I expected Scotty to think through the implications of my second post and get a little more excited. If my first theory is correct, for example, and the Corrupt Cops have to accomplish something in order to use the kill, then a failed kill most likely means none of them accomplished this, and I would not expect whatever they had to do to be a Sisyphean task. What conclusion may be drawn from that? It should have gotten Scotty all a-tingle. Instead he pissed in my tea.

[nijuukyugou]

Hello, delightful people!

So I know I've had some stellar participation so far but I'll be even more absent for the next several days (until at least Tuesday) due to having a visitor. I will attempt to keep up somewhat, but my attention will be very divided in any case. Apologies for my lack of foresight.

[sig]

Epi is doing his standard baddie behavior, he is lurking more, not leading the town as much, and being more condescending when accused. This is exactly like his behavior in Turf War when he was bad, compared to BSG in which I thought he was bad, but he wasn't. So this is a combination of meta and gut mainly.

It kills me when people think they've got me figured out on the basis of two or three games. "Epi isn't posting a lot, so he's bad!" You can keep on with that, and guess what? You'd be right...some of the time.

I'm feeling generous, sig, so I'm going to do something I don't normally do. I'm going to tell you about what you usually do when you're good. You come out hard against people who vote for you, make wild suggestions about their alignments, and make yourself to be the center of the mafia universe.

Don't believe me? Watch:

I think, no I'm becoming increasingly confident Epi, Dom, and Matt need to be lynched.

You come out hard against people who vote for you...

One or two are mafia and the other is Ying/Yang.

...make wild suggestions about their alignments...

Now this was a mafia kill and I believe it was directed at me since I'm being active and was right about one or multiple mafia members.

...and make yourself out to be the center of the mafia universe.

We haven't gotten here yet, but when you're shown to be wrong about someone who voted for you, you'll double down on the others. I'm not Miss Cleo, but that's what will happen. That's what civilian sig does. That's what you're doing now. That, coupled with the obvious business (that, ironically, you got mad at Quin for calling attention to even though you already think mafia tried to kill you), makes me 97% sure of your role, and that you should be heard and not dismissed. Unfortunately, you will be dismissed because of what I've outlined above. What I'm hoping from you is that you'll consider all the angles and whether they make sense with the evidence.

Like me, for instance. You have called me mafia, and you believe mafia tried to kill you. Very well. If I am with the Crooked Cops, it means I tried to kill you even though I know it's the most ill-advised kill choice possible. If I am Yin or Yang, then what was I doing with my vote? Saving Scotty? If so, then that means Scotty is Yin and I am Yang, which further means I...can't be lynched. Yet you are calling for my lynch today.

sig, you've been given what you asked for. All I'm asking is that you think through your suspects and consider what possible motivations they have.

And...

I do believe if we're going to lynch one of these three we start with either Matt or Epi. Mainly since the longer baddie Epi is around the harder it is to lynch him.

...how in the hell am I harder to lynch the longer I am around?

Well in hindsight you're right that is my civ behavior, but I don't think I make the center of the universe to be about me, I also don't think all my wild theories are always so well wild and some are correct. I do recognize that this current theory is most likely wrong, and you are probably not bad 60/40 right now.

What do you think of Dom?

You are one of those players who gets increasingly harder to lynch the longer you stay in the game, as a baddie.


linki: Have fun!

[sig]

So shouldn't we lynch Scotty, then? I still don't get why you list a group of players, some of whom may have been pulling a baddie save, but you don't concentrate on the guy who was allegedly saved. Why only lis Scotty as an "and Scotty" at the end. I've always questioned the logic of going after players for saving a baddie when you haven't proven the person who wad saved was indeed bad.

On my phone will post as I can

In part since Matt voted for me, which makes me more likely to think he is a baddie. However, he is arrested today so I wouldn't advocate for his lynch, even if we could lynch him.

Also Epi I doubt I'm the role you think I am.

[Quin]

Well I'm not surprised I believe the mafia attempted to kill me last night and they failed.


I think, no I'm becoming increasingly confident Epi, Dom, and Matt need to be lynched. One or two are mafia and the other is Ying/Yang. Now this was a mafia kill and I believe it was directed at me since I'm being active and was right about one or multiple mafia members.

Now this is a day 2 read, so I might be wrong, but Epi seems very mafiaish this game not posting much at all and being very under the radar, this is different then his BattleStar gameplay and more like his Turf War gameplay, I hate what Matt did at the end of the last phase this is very very pingy. Dom is a little bit different I just have a really bad gut feeling on him.

also yay I'm off the poll have fun trying to get rid of me again.

linki: Of course.

My laptop is still toast so I'm posting from work now that the bosses are gone home... Sig, can you flesh this out? If I'm understanding you, you are suggesting that the late surge against you in the lynch was baddie-led, and you say that Epig, Dom and Matt are the main focus for you. But if this was baddie-led, then doesn't that mean that Scotty should be your #1 priority? There are only 3 baddies... if they were scrambling, it was to save someone no?, so it has to be Scotty who was being saved?

I'm just confused as to why you are suggesting this thought process but including Dom, who didn't vote you, and NOT concentrating on Scotty. Am I misunderstanding?

I'm working off of this:

Scotty
4
SokothQultuq (7), insertnamehere (11), DFaraday (14), LoRab (15) 20%

sig
4
BigDamnHero (2), Elohcin (9), Epignosis (19), Matt (20) 20%


I'll catch furthur up as my workload allows.

This is what I did a poor job of trying to express earlier. Thanks, timmer. Also long time, no see! Good to be in a game with you.

So even though I think sig is good, I don't think we should blindly follow him or anything.

Oh I agree with this following me blindly will most likely end not so well, however there is a certain level of followness I think would be okay. :P


To answer Timmer and clear it up, I'm not connecting Epi and Matt/Scotty at all. I think Matt/Scotty could be mafia and Epi/Dom could be Ying or Yang.

I suspect Matt for his last minute actions last phase and obvious save attempt for scotty and trying to get me lynched in a very underhanded way.
I suspect Dom based 100% on gut he is just pinging me like crazy for some reason, but I have no real reason to it. So I believe he should be watched.
Epi is doing his standard baddie behavior, he is lurking more, not leading the town as much, and being more condescending when accused. This is exactly like his behavior in Turf War when he was bad, compared to BSG in which I thought he was bad, but he wasn't. So this is a combination of meta and gut mainly.

I do believe if we're going to lynch one of these three we start with either Matt or Epi. Mainly since the longer baddie Epi is around the harder it is to lynch him.

Sig, you think Mafia tried to kill you last night and you survived? What makes you think this?

I couldn't say one way or the other, but I'm fairly confident the mafia did target me since I had named some of their members

Or the mafia believes that I'm Shawn and they killed me so Ying and Yang could kill more people.
Either way I believe someone who I called out and said should be lynched at night was mafia.

Also, I would be inclined to move on from sig. I don't think he's the Yin/Yang guy because I don't see that person throwing themselves out in the open and potentially revealing their role this early.

He didn't exactly throw himself in the open, moreso he was leading a lynch train and his actions lead to more votes. I think it's still likely.

I kinda did though, if you compare me getting lynched in this game to others you'll see how laid back I was. I was also willing to switch my vote away from Scotty thus lowering the gap between me and him which put me in danger of being lynched. So I didn't fight the lynch. You want to see examples of me fighting lynches look at many of my past games.

Either sig had a bulletproof vest, is Shawn or he's talking out of his butt

Why are you putting a target on my back?
Why would I just talk outta my butt?

Once again note Epi's game play and how he is acting I see a very noticeable difference from his Civ self.

Because I think you're Yang.

[Quin]

@Scotty: Sig's behavior has me concerned, but he's not lynch able today...possibly ever...

Quinn's post potentially outing our civ leader has me scratching my head...

I get mostly positive vibes from Epi...

Rabbit has seemed quiet for an experienced Mafia-er...

Firstly, If sig is Shawn then he practically outted himself when he drew attention to the fact that the cops were supposed to kill him last night. I'm just the one who put it into words. Secondly, as I've said; I don't believe that he is Shawn. I think he is Yang.

You were particularly quick to establish him as our 'civ leader'. I don't even know what that means. But more to the point, why do you trust him so much?

[BigDamnHero]

@Scotty: Sig's behavior has me concerned, but he's not lynch able today...possibly ever...

Quinn's post potentially outing our civ leader has me scratching my head...

I get mostly positive vibes from Epi...

Rabbit has seemed quiet for an experienced Mafia-er...

Firstly, If sig is Shawn then he practically outted himself when he drew attention to the fact that the cops were supposed to kill him last night. I'm just the one who put it into words. Secondly, as I've said; I don't believe that he is Shawn. I think he is Yang.

You were particularly quick to establish him as our 'civ leader'. I don't even know what that means. But more to the point, why do you trust him so much?

I haven't established anybody as anything yet. And by "civ leader" I mean lead character of the theme the game is based upon. If I have even an inkling of a potential cavs role, I try not to.tip my hand so soon in case the mafia may not have connected the dots just yet.

As for.sig, I'm not sure where I stand with him other than wanting to keep an eye on him. It's only Day 2 and there are far too many variables to explain why he may not have been lynched...role secrets, items, pre-game prizes, etc...any ONE of which could explain away what happened and therefore taint our entire perception of who sig may-or-may-not be.

[Epignosis]

Well in hindsight you're right that is my civ behavior, but I don't think I make the center of the universe to be about me, I also don't think all my wild theories are always so well wild and some are correct. I do recognize that this current theory is most likely wrong, and you are probably not bad 60/40 right now.

What do you think of Dom?

You are one of those players who gets increasingly harder to lynch the longer you stay in the game, as a baddie.

Center of the mafia universe. I would have done better by adding the possessive to say "center of the mafia's universe."

I'll let you know what I think about Dom when he responds to me.

And I don't get harder to lynch the longer I stay as mafia anymore than any mafia does (i.e., numbers), so I don't get the observation.

[timmer]

In part since Matt voted for me, which makes me more likely to think he is a baddie. However, he is arrested today so I wouldn't advocate for his lynch, even if we could lynch him.

But this just adds to my point. You say Matt voted for you, and you think he is bad, and previously you referred to it as a save (correct me if I'm wrong?). And correct, Matt is not able to be voted for.... so all the more reason to vote for Scotty then, isn't it?

Why say Matt is bad, but refuse to consider voting for the guy he was theoretically saving? Because with the shenanigans at lynch's end, I'm kind of in favour of looking Scotty's way, and I'm baffled that you aren't, with what you're saying.

If you don't actually think Scotty is bad or was being saved, what makes you think the last-minute voters are bad? Just because they voted for you? Like, this isn't a giant collective NO U... right?

Again, I'm going to look back through Scotty's posts, because I feel like that lynch points to a possible save.

[timmer]

No, timmer. We should not do that thing you mentioned.

I would like to vote Dom, Epi or the Klingon today.

Voting for Sokoth now. Could change, who knows if I'll have time to get back on to make a case or change it. If Epi or Dom get votes, I'll see if I can jump on that too.

Why those three? And why put a vote on a 4th person?

And what do you make of yesterday's lynch results?

[sig]

In part since Matt voted for me, which makes me more likely to think he is a baddie. However, he is arrested today so I wouldn't advocate for his lynch, even if we could lynch him.

But this just adds to my point. You say Matt voted for you, and you think he is bad, and previously you referred to it as a save (correct me if I'm wrong?). And correct, Matt is not able to be voted for.... so all the more reason to vote for Scotty then, isn't it?

Why say Matt is bad, but refuse to consider voting for the guy he was theoretically saving? Because with the shenanigans at lynch's end, I'm kind of in favour of looking Scotty's way, and I'm baffled that you aren't, with what you're saying.

If you don't actually think Scotty is bad or was being saved, what makes you think the last-minute voters are bad? Just because they voted for you? Like, this isn't a giant collective NO U... right?

Again, I'm going to look back through Scotty's posts, because I feel like that lynch points to a possible save.

No I am strongly considering Scotty, but last night I was in a NO U kinda mood, so I wanted to lynch Matt first. As of right now I'm thinking of lynching Dom or Scotty.

[Scotty]

No, timmer. We should not do that thing you mentioned.

I would like to vote Dom, Epi or the Klingon today.

Voting for Sokoth now. Could change, who knows if I'll have time to get back on to make a case or change it. If Epi or Dom get votes, I'll see if I can jump on that too.

Why those three? And why put a vote on a 4th person?

And what do you make of yesterday's lynch results?

Because.

Sig was in my 3 sus's yesterday. I did nothing to stall that lynch, which leads me to believe sig was to be lynched and had some role ability to stop him. Maybe an item ability. I think he is not Mafia currently.

I'm very sporadically checking this site right now so those 3 are my sus's because reasons. I think I have explained those reasons. Cursory glances and all that. I'm sorry I'm not really putting a huge effort into it because this week is hell-acious.

[Scotty]

Hey Sokoth, I see you're on, but are as active as my dead grandmother. Which is funny because I thought I was inactive.

I would rather start a lynch train on him. I think he's on and talking to his Mafia counterparts.

[SokothQultuq]

Wow... step away for a day to work on another project and come back to this.

I will say for the record: I dislike people voting for people just because they are a low poster! Why: Because I'm probably considered a low posters because I don't spend every waking moment in this channel. I visit here once or twice a day as I'm able with Work and other project constraints. So if that makes me suspicious then so be it. But it looks awfully aggressive to do such a thing and in my opinion does make people suspicious. First day is too soon unless someone drop something extremely blatant that is suspicious really day 1 votes are either very coordinated or very lucky if someone goes out and they are Mafia.

I thought Scotty's sudden change in mind was a bit odd myself. Why is he suddenly Jumping on the DrWilgy train there for this vote? I re-read some posts and I'm curious maybe I missed a post but what is the reason behind this decision?

I found this a little odd, and somewhat aggressive, but other than the joking manor I'm getting from it, it could easily be taken seriously and suspicious. Why?

2 hours left and not even half have voted? Epi may actually get his prediction right...

Oh well this spread means things are bueno. I haven't read the thread recently but am still ok with Dom dying graphically and horribly... Perhaps Sig as well.

Then you turn around and change your mind, but for no other reason than "Because" it seems to me.

Actually... This is conflicting. I don't want Sig to die day 1 again regardless of alignment. Sig's been murked early like 3 times in a row. Sig. I think you are bad but want to at least give you day two. Let's vote Dom together.

Right out of the gate? You've already got 3 suspects off day one? That's ambitious as heck!

Let's see... Baddie team is DF, Dom, Sig.

Matt is a possibility. Matt do you like popcorn?

Then DrWilgy moves right into a "Lets Lynch Dom" kick, and now he has Scotty following him. Scotty does not seem like the Following kind to me. And I've not seen a strong argument from either that this is a thing. Is it a thing? Why is it a thing? Help me understand please? Can you throw me a bone and give me some interesting facts? I would appreciate it.

Going back through Dom's posts there is a lot of hot air... and a very concerted attempt at winning the contest but outside of trying to be funny or punny even nothing stands out well enough to me to consider Dom a bad person just yet. So I would appreciate your input.

[SokothQultuq]

Hey Sokoth, I see you're on, but are as active as my dead grandmother. Which is funny because I thought I was inactive.

I would rather start a lynch train on him. I think he's on and talking to his Mafia counterparts.

That's because I was work'n on a post. 8-) Your welcome to start a Lynch train on me, I just hope you can explain why. LOL

[SokothQultuq]

And what is with all this hate towards the klingon? You do know that they do become friendly of sorts right? There not all bad!

Maybe I should start claiming discrimination... Are you a Specist? LOL

[Scotty]

Wow... step away for a day to work on another project and come back to this.

I will say for the record: I dislike people voting for people just because they are a low poster! Why: Because I'm probably considered a low posters because I don't spend every waking moment in this channel. I visit here once or twice a day as I'm able with Work and other project constraints. So if that makes me suspicious then so be it. But it looks awfully aggressive to do such a thing and in my opinion does make people suspicious. First day is too soon unless someone drop something extremely blatant that is suspicious really day 1 votes are either very coordinated or very lucky if someone goes out and they are Mafia.

I thought Scotty's sudden change in mind was a bit odd myself. Why is he suddenly Jumping on the DrWilgy train there for this vote? I re-read some posts and I'm curious maybe I missed a post but what is the reason behind this decision?

I found this a little odd, and somewhat aggressive, but other than the joking manor I'm getting from it, it could easily be taken seriously and suspicious. Why?

2 hours left and not even half have voted? Epi may actually get his prediction right...

Oh well this spread means things are bueno. I haven't read the thread recently but am still ok with Dom dying graphically and horribly... Perhaps Sig as well.

Then you turn around and change your mind, but for no other reason than "Because" it seems to me.

Actually... This is conflicting. I don't want Sig to die day 1 again regardless of alignment. Sig's been murked early like 3 times in a row. Sig. I think you are bad but want to at least give you day two. Let's vote Dom together.

Right out of the gate? You've already got 3 suspects off day one? That's ambitious as heck!

Let's see... Baddie team is DF, Dom, Sig.

Matt is a possibility. Matt do you like popcorn?

Then DrWilgy moves right into a "Lets Lynch Dom" kick, and now he has Scotty following him. Scotty does not seem like the Following kind to me. And I've not seen a strong argument from either that this is a thing. Is it a thing? Why is it a thing? Help me understand please? Can you throw me a bone and give me some interesting facts? I would appreciate it.

Going back through Dom's posts there is a lot of hot air... and a very concerted attempt at winning the contest but outside of trying to be funny or punny even nothing stands out well enough to me to consider Dom a bad person just yet. So I would appreciate your input.

Hey Sokoth, I see you're on, but are as active as my dead grandmother. Which is funny because I thought I was inactive.

I would rather start a lynch train on him. I think he's on and talking to his Mafia counterparts.

That's because I was work'n on a post. 8-) Your welcome to start a Lynch train on me, I just hope you can explain why. LOL

Ah! I see you thanks man This is a good start. I'm less suspicious for this post. As I said I'm not going to build cases, all of these are hunches that I'm not expanding for time.

Look back through my brief posts. There's nothing sudden here. He was on my day 1 list. But that's neither here nor there.

Dom or Epi today.

I'm only picking a few people that catch my eye in reading through the thread.

[SokothQultuq]

Thanks for that, it is helpful and clears things up for me. Sometimes its hard to tell outright when reading some of the posts. Sometimes its the little things that make things make sense.

[timmer]

Just did a readback of Scotty's posts. It's not good.

I can handle a fluff-y beginning of the game, so his whole "haven't looked at my role card" schtick isn't ping-y, per se.

But then Sokoth kind of random votes him, and he posts this?

Quin - No one stands out as of yet to me. Any vote I make right now would be a pure guess.

Scotty - Ouch.... I'm very surprised since your counterpart wrote the thing. I thought it was a great movie. Fantastic. No Lense Flare! Characters with depth, Story with depth. It was actually Star Trek. And its SOkoth. No Sukoth. Why would you insult me so sir. And a vote? I hope it was a well founded vote. One good turn deserves another I suppose.

Scotty only because turnabout is fair play, and I have no other idea at the moment.

Any other questions I missed?

Wait a sec. Everything about this post sucks to me.
"No one stands out to me...would be a pure guess"

You're NO-Uing me isn't a guess at all. This is the easy way out of this. I don't think you are good. Voting back on you.

Also, don't be a Scriphxs Nashunal Spellung Bae Champeen like me. Spell names right! (I'm sorry Sukoth, my autocorrect changed your name if you can believe it.)

As for the recent adaptation: I didn't so much dislike it as I didn't think it was all that memorable. The theme was solid, and I do like Simon Pegg as much as any engineer, but it doesn't make sense that Scotty seemed to have more screen time than Kirk lol.

See, you can't do that. You can't post one single sentence about someone: "just like your feigned interest in the thread can give you the guise to appear civ." and then react so heavily when someone votes you. (For the record, Sokoth had 3 posts up to that point.)

Add in the end of lynch shenanigans, and there is now an appaearance that Scotty may have been the beneficiary of a save attempt.

And finally, this: "those 3 are my sus's because reasons."

Sorry but for now, Scotty's my vote.

[Epignosis]

Yeah, I'm voting there too.

[sig]

I am as well, for the time.

[insertnamehere]

Just did a readback of Scotty's posts. It's not good.

I can handle a fluff-y beginning of the game, so his whole "haven't looked at my role card" schtick isn't ping-y, per se.

But then Sokoth kind of random votes him, and he posts this?

Quin - No one stands out as of yet to me. Any vote I make right now would be a pure guess.

Scotty - Ouch.... I'm very surprised since your counterpart wrote the thing. I thought it was a great movie. Fantastic. No Lense Flare! Characters with depth, Story with depth. It was actually Star Trek. And its SOkoth. No Sukoth. Why would you insult me so sir. And a vote? I hope it was a well founded vote. One good turn deserves another I suppose.

Scotty only because turnabout is fair play, and I have no other idea at the moment.

Any other questions I missed?

Wait a sec. Everything about this post sucks to me.
"No one stands out to me...would be a pure guess"

You're NO-Uing me isn't a guess at all. This is the easy way out of this. I don't think you are good. Voting back on you.

Also, don't be a Scriphxs Nashunal Spellung Bae Champeen like me. Spell names right! (I'm sorry Sukoth, my autocorrect changed your name if you can believe it.)

As for the recent adaptation: I didn't so much dislike it as I didn't think it was all that memorable. The theme was solid, and I do like Simon Pegg as much as any engineer, but it doesn't make sense that Scotty seemed to have more screen time than Kirk lol.

See, you can't do that. You can't post one single sentence about someone: "just like your feigned interest in the thread can give you the guise to appear civ." and then react so heavily when someone votes you. (For the record, Sokoth had 3 posts up to that point.)

Add in the end of lynch shenanigans, and there is now an appaearance that Scotty may have been the beneficiary of a save attempt.

And finally, this: "those 3 are my sus's because reasons."

Sorry but for now, Scotty's my vote.

Scotty began as my only real gut read in the game, until he became more than that after the whole fiasco near the voting end, and his blame-gamey posts.

I'm not in the "Sig = Yin/Yang" Club, but I haven't necessarily agreed with a single one of his suspicions since the game began, and him pushing his weak-reasoned candidates while shrugging and saying "Yeah, I guess" at Scotty makes me squirm a wee bit.

*voting Scotty for now*

[Spacedaisy]

Just to let everyone know, we have two requests for replacements at the moment. From Dom and Blooper. I will be looking to replace them hopefully in the next 24 hours here. Blooper is going to try to play in the mean time but she is quite busy, so no guarantees. Dom is not able to participate so he will be my first priority replacement. Bear with me guys. Thanks!

[Russtifinko]

@HOSTS- What happens to confiscated items from people in jail? Does Buzz keep them for himself? Can he use them? Are they returned after a prisoner is released?

It says "most" used items are put in the safe...does that mean some items have a finite use? If so, will we be made aware if an item (identified or not) is no longer in play?

BDH, regarding the first part of this post - you got on Quin's case for doing this about a different important civ role; why ask for information on a civ role? Anything we do get from the hosts here is way more likely to help baddies than us.

Just did a readback of Scotty's posts. It's not good.

I can handle a fluff-y beginning of the game, so his whole "haven't looked at my role card" schtick isn't ping-y, per se.

But then Sokoth kind of random votes him, and he posts this?

Quin - No one stands out as of yet to me. Any vote I make right now would be a pure guess.

Scotty - Ouch.... I'm very surprised since your counterpart wrote the thing. I thought it was a great movie. Fantastic. No Lense Flare! Characters with depth, Story with depth. It was actually Star Trek. And its SOkoth. No Sukoth. Why would you insult me so sir. And a vote? I hope it was a well founded vote. One good turn deserves another I suppose.

Scotty only because turnabout is fair play, and I have no other idea at the moment.

Any other questions I missed?

Wait a sec. Everything about this post sucks to me.
"No one stands out to me...would be a pure guess"

You're NO-Uing me isn't a guess at all. This is the easy way out of this. I don't think you are good. Voting back on you.

Also, don't be a Scriphxs Nashunal Spellung Bae Champeen like me. Spell names right! (I'm sorry Sukoth, my autocorrect changed your name if you can believe it.)

As for the recent adaptation: I didn't so much dislike it as I didn't think it was all that memorable. The theme was solid, and I do like Simon Pegg as much as any engineer, but it doesn't make sense that Scotty seemed to have more screen time than Kirk lol.

See, you can't do that. You can't post one single sentence about someone: "just like your feigned interest in the thread can give you the guise to appear civ." and then react so heavily when someone votes you. (For the record, Sokoth had 3 posts up to that point.)

Add in the end of lynch shenanigans, and there is now an appaearance that Scotty may have been the beneficiary of a save attempt.

And finally, this: "those 3 are my sus's because reasons."

Sorry but for now, Scotty's my vote.

This is a really compelling case. I agree with you and Sokoth that the Dom suspicion seems to have a lot of traction given how little substance it has, and I also think Scotty's not reading his role card is not suspicious, but you do a good job of showing that his behavior since is.

My only reservation right now is that I'm not sold on it being a save, because I still don't think that's the optimal play. However, as sig pointed out, opinions are divided on that stance, so it's entirely possible the baddie team disagrees with me on that and did try to save.

I'm gonna wait til tomorrow to vote, but Scotty's a frontrunner for me.

Linki: INH, this means you're starting to doubt sig's cred, right?

Lots of people agreeing with the Scotty case...

[Quin]

Given my earlier stated opinion on the 'don't be a...' posters, I'm inclined to vote for one of them today. With that said, I'll put my vote on Dom for now to keep the alternative lynch alive.

[DrWilgy]

I say we end our hosts search for a replacement via lynch. Aren't I the nicest?

[timmer]

I say we end our hosts search for a replacement via lynch. Aren't I the nicest?

Wilgy, looking back it seems like your Dom suspicion began with this: "Dom is bad.

He's poking at Lorabbit's twirlibirdimarks after I already inqured about them. While not being directly opportunistic, he's looking for reasons to vote."

Where are you at, now? Obviously still focused on him, but is there more to your thoughts now that a day has passed? How do you feel the lynch went?

[Scotty]

Just did a readback of Scotty's posts. It's not good.

I can handle a fluff-y beginning of the game, so his whole "haven't looked at my role card" schtick isn't ping-y, per se.

But then Sokoth kind of random votes him, and he posts this?

Quin - No one stands out as of yet to me. Any vote I make right now would be a pure guess.

Scotty - Ouch.... I'm very surprised since your counterpart wrote the thing. I thought it was a great movie. Fantastic. No Lense Flare! Characters with depth, Story with depth. It was actually Star Trek. And its SOkoth. No Sukoth. Why would you insult me so sir. And a vote? I hope it was a well founded vote. One good turn deserves another I suppose.

Scotty only because turnabout is fair play, and I have no other idea at the moment.

Any other questions I missed?

Wait a sec. Everything about this post sucks to me.
"No one stands out to me...would be a pure guess"

You're NO-Uing me isn't a guess at all. This is the easy way out of this. I don't think you are good. Voting back on you.

Also, don't be a Scriphxs Nashunal Spellung Bae Champeen like me. Spell names right! (I'm sorry Sukoth, my autocorrect changed your name if you can believe it.)

As for the recent adaptation: I didn't so much dislike it as I didn't think it was all that memorable. The theme was solid, and I do like Simon Pegg as much as any engineer, but it doesn't make sense that Scotty seemed to have more screen time than Kirk lol.

See, you can't do that. You can't post one single sentence about someone: "just like your feigned interest in the thread can give you the guise to appear civ." and then react so heavily when someone votes you. (For the record, Sokoth had 3 posts up to that point.)

Add in the end of lynch shenanigans, and there is now an appaearance that Scotty may have been the beneficiary of a save attempt.

And finally, this: "those 3 are my sus's because reasons."

Sorry but for now, Scotty's my vote.

So let's look at the lineup of people willing to vote for me, eh? Just in case I'm actually lynched and you'll have to comb back through the voters for my mislynch:
Timmer, which actually brings up some good points in a case. I don't think that's inherently suspicious.

Yeah, I'm voting there too.

This bloke. He's bad.

I am as well, for the time.

This ying. He's yang.

Just did a readback of Scotty's posts. It's not good.

I can handle a fluff-y beginning of the game, so his whole "haven't looked at my role card" schtick isn't ping-y, per se.

But then Sokoth kind of random votes him, and he posts this?

Quin - No one stands out as of yet to me. Any vote I make right now would be a pure guess.

Scotty - Ouch.... I'm very surprised since your counterpart wrote the thing. I thought it was a great movie. Fantastic. No Lense Flare! Characters with depth, Story with depth. It was actually Star Trek. And its SOkoth. No Sukoth. Why would you insult me so sir. And a vote? I hope it was a well founded vote. One good turn deserves another I suppose.

Scotty only because turnabout is fair play, and I have no other idea at the moment.

Any other questions I missed?

Wait a sec. Everything about this post sucks to me.
"No one stands out to me...would be a pure guess"

You're NO-Uing me isn't a guess at all. This is the easy way out of this. I don't think you are good. Voting back on you.

Also, don't be a Scriphxs Nashunal Spellung Bae Champeen like me. Spell names right! (I'm sorry Sukoth, my autocorrect changed your name if you can believe it.)

As for the recent adaptation: I didn't so much dislike it as I didn't think it was all that memorable. The theme was solid, and I do like Simon Pegg as much as any engineer, but it doesn't make sense that Scotty seemed to have more screen time than Kirk lol.

See, you can't do that. You can't post one single sentence about someone: "just like your feigned interest in the thread can give you the guise to appear civ." and then react so heavily when someone votes you. (For the record, Sokoth had 3 posts up to that point.)

Add in the end of lynch shenanigans, and there is now an appaearance that Scotty may have been the beneficiary of a save attempt.

And finally, this: "those 3 are my sus's because reasons."

Sorry but for now, Scotty's my vote.

Scotty began as my only real gut read in the game, until he became more than that after the whole fiasco near the voting end, and his blame-gamey posts.

I'm not in the "Sig = Yin/Yang" Club, but I haven't necessarily agreed with a single one of his suspicions since the game began, and him pushing his weak-reasoned candidates while shrugging and saying "Yeah, I guess" at Scotty makes me squirm a wee bit.

*voting Scotty for now*

Woah woah woah. What fiasco near the voting end? I wasn't even around for the last odd hours of the lynch, or else I would have voted to save myself. I didn't even know I was amassing votes. So I'm not sure what you're talking about, bucko.
It makes you squirm, you don't trust sig, but you're voting me anyway?

You really don't want to lynch me.

Yea, that is a threat.

[Scotty]

@HOSTS- What happens to confiscated items from people in jail? Does Buzz keep them for himself? Can he use them? Are they returned after a prisoner is released?

It says "most" used items are put in the safe...does that mean some items have a finite use? If so, will we be made aware if an item (identified or not) is no longer in play?

BDH, regarding the first part of this post - you got on Quin's case for doing this about a different important civ role; why ask for information on a civ role? Anything we do get from the hosts here is way more likely to help baddies than us.

Just did a readback of Scotty's posts. It's not good.

I can handle a fluff-y beginning of the game, so his whole "haven't looked at my role card" schtick isn't ping-y, per se.

But then Sokoth kind of random votes him, and he posts this?

Quin - No one stands out as of yet to me. Any vote I make right now would be a pure guess.

Scotty - Ouch.... I'm very surprised since your counterpart wrote the thing. I thought it was a great movie. Fantastic. No Lense Flare! Characters with depth, Story with depth. It was actually Star Trek. And its SOkoth. No Sukoth. Why would you insult me so sir. And a vote? I hope it was a well founded vote. One good turn deserves another I suppose.

Scotty only because turnabout is fair play, and I have no other idea at the moment.

Any other questions I missed?

Wait a sec. Everything about this post sucks to me.
"No one stands out to me...would be a pure guess"

You're NO-Uing me isn't a guess at all. This is the easy way out of this. I don't think you are good. Voting back on you.

Also, don't be a Scriphxs Nashunal Spellung Bae Champeen like me. Spell names right! (I'm sorry Sukoth, my autocorrect changed your name if you can believe it.)

As for the recent adaptation: I didn't so much dislike it as I didn't think it was all that memorable. The theme was solid, and I do like Simon Pegg as much as any engineer, but it doesn't make sense that Scotty seemed to have more screen time than Kirk lol.

See, you can't do that. You can't post one single sentence about someone: "just like your feigned interest in the thread can give you the guise to appear civ." and then react so heavily when someone votes you. (For the record, Sokoth had 3 posts up to that point.)

Add in the end of lynch shenanigans, and there is now an appaearance that Scotty may have been the beneficiary of a save attempt.

And finally, this: "those 3 are my sus's because reasons."

Sorry but for now, Scotty's my vote.

This is a really compelling case. I agree with you and Sokoth that the Dom suspicion seems to have a lot of traction given how little substance it has, and I also think Scotty's not reading his role card is not suspicious, but you do a good job of showing that his behavior since is.

My only reservation right now is that I'm not sold on it being a save, because I still don't think that's the optimal play. However, as sig pointed out, opinions are divided on that stance, so it's entirely possible the baddie team disagrees with me on that and did try to save.

I'm gonna wait til tomorrow to vote, but Scotty's a frontrunner for me.

Linki: INH, this means you're starting to doubt sig's cred, right?

Lots of people agreeing with the Scotty case...

Yes, lots of people jumping on this case indeed...

The way you're handling this...the waffling over whether or not I'm bad so you're gonna hold off voting until tomorrow even though I'm a frontrunner for you?

Yeah...why not just vote for me? You know votes are changeable, right? What do you think is going to change between now and EoD?