The Syndicate

I'm not not w/w cause I would have been bussing*

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:12 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:34 pm

tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:32 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:27 pm

Mizery wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:26 pm

tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:24 pm mizery if you don't say who you think is a wolf I'm just going to assume you're one

I think I'm a wolf

I don't.

then who do you think is a wolf

You. :^)

And 2 of Gira/Wisp/Alison.

The rest I have reasons to townread.

But I still need to actually ISO for links. That happens after work tho, so not now.

I agree with this PoE for tomorrow.
@DrWilgy
Just to make sure maybe Track Falcon or Mizery just in case something is off here.

Bruh I'm getting RB'd or killed for sure.

@Wisp I still want you to say why you went from town reading me to wolf reading me last day phase, especially again over gira during EoD considering both our strances on him

Tess, where's the Wiggin vote?

Wisp wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:26 pm @tessepia
that game u linked before, was it a wolf or a town game?
i haven't had a chance to check it yet

Tess has a wide range, careful of using specific games.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:45 pm Tess, where's the Wiggin vote?

why are people asking me this

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:46 pm

Wisp wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:26 pm @tessepia
that game u linked before, was it a wolf or a town game?
i haven't had a chance to check it yet

Tess has a wide range, careful of using specific games.

I mean yeah but that games also literally my best wolf game

tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:28 pm

tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:24 pm

Wisp wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:22 pm Tess in wolf worlds is never the roleblocker here, yes
but u certainly can be, if you are a wolf

If Gira is a wolf, someone deep made that night kill night 1
did u know as a tracker in this setup, you have 8.3% chance to hit a wolf, 25% chance of hitting anyone making an action, and a 66% chance to hit any of the Vanilla townies
and again, if Gira is a wolf, he made the worst possible track

yes I am

oh I just remembered something from this post

randomly changing emotions in games is a decent town tell for me, rn I'm giddy idk why but I just barely was pretty annoyed too

I randomly change emotions a lot irl and when I'm town that reflected in my posts but when I'm a wolf my emotions are put on to accomplish something

the rest of you don't need to care about this but there's another tell for you @EnderWiggin

I like how you phrased this as if it was the town version of that tell.

But still:

btw I remembered I wanted to point out

"tess would die early or live late" as one of enders reasons to check me is so awful

@tessepia
a specific reason? because when I thought about the idea of Gira being a wolf, your name was the first one that popped up as a possible partner
other than that, it was as I said, mostly not wanting to kill in Alison or Long
and you were a train still, wigly and misery were not

tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:47 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:46 pm

Wisp wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:26 pm @tessepia
that game u linked before, was it a wolf or a town game?
i haven't had a chance to check it yet

Tess has a wide range, careful of using specific games.

I mean yeah but that games also literally my best wolf game

I don't even remember which one you linked.

I just wanted to warn people since I've seen you do everything from super solver to slankin'

tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:47 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:45 pm Tess, where's the Wiggin vote?

why are people asking me this

Because I'd like to know where the Wiggin vote is.

tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:48 pm btw I remembered I wanted to point out

"tess would die early or live late" as one of enders reasons to check me is so awful

I mean.

That was exactly my thought process so.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:50 pm

tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:47 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:45 pm Tess, where's the Wiggin vote?

why are people asking me this

Because I'd like to know where the Wiggin vote is.

Nothing up my sleeve.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:47 pm

tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:28 pm

tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:24 pm

Wisp wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:22 pm Tess in wolf worlds is never the roleblocker here, yes
but u certainly can be, if you are a wolf

If Gira is a wolf, someone deep made that night kill night 1
did u know as a tracker in this setup, you have 8.3% chance to hit a wolf, 25% chance of hitting anyone making an action, and a 66% chance to hit any of the Vanilla townies
and again, if Gira is a wolf, he made the worst possible track

yes I am

oh I just remembered something from this post

randomly changing emotions in games is a decent town tell for me, rn I'm giddy idk why but I just barely was pretty annoyed too

I randomly change emotions a lot irl and when I'm town that reflected in my posts but when I'm a wolf my emotions are put on to accomplish something

the rest of you don't need to care about this but there's another tell for you @EnderWiggin

I like how you phrased this as if it was the town version of that tell.

But still:

it's true--there's a reason I've said illario calling my ISO in constant vigilance "too clean to possibly wolf read" or something is a wolf tell

I get scum read constantly as town for "inconsistencies" which mostly is erratic behavior

not displayed as much this game cause well, I was not reading much/not invested cause I didn't want to die, as well as stuff like BK yelling a lot kinda shutting me off being interested, but yeah I just remembered it after posting that

reminds me too I actually like the character "tess" cause I think I should play more uh, carefully as town and was trying too, kinda like how Chelsea plays, but yeh

Wisp wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:49 pm @tessepia
a specific reason? because when I thought about the idea of Gira being a wolf, your name was the first one that popped up as a possible partner
other than that, it was as I said, mostly not wanting to kill in Alison or Long
and you were a train still, wigly and misery were not

Out of curiosity:
Why do you think they're partnered?

I had unpaired thoughts earlier.

Wisp wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:49 pm @tessepia
a specific reason? because when I thought about the idea of Gira being a wolf, your name was the first one that popped up as a possible partner
other than that, it was as I said, mostly not wanting to kill in Alison or Long
and you were a train still, wigly and misery were not

why did you think that?

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:51 pm

tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:48 pm btw I remembered I wanted to point out

"tess would die early or live late" as one of enders reasons to check me is so awful

I mean.

That was exactly my thought process so.

x doubt

tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:53 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:51 pm

tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:48 pm btw I remembered I wanted to point out

"tess would die early or live late" as one of enders reasons to check me is so awful

I mean.

That was exactly my thought process so.

x doubt

Oh no.

The wolf doubts me.

Whatever will I do.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:52 pm

Wisp wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:49 pm @tessepia
a specific reason? because when I thought about the idea of Gira being a wolf, your name was the first one that popped up as a possible partner
other than that, it was as I said, mostly not wanting to kill in Alison or Long
and you were a train still, wigly and misery were not

Out of curiosity:
Why do you think they're partnered?

I had unpaired thoughts earlier.

well ur gun to the head read has me as a wolf with Alison
so forgive my bad reads
I tend to get partnery vibes from certain callouts, and Tess calling out Gira felt like such

Wisp wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:57 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:52 pm

Wisp wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:49 pm @tessepia
a specific reason? because when I thought about the idea of Gira being a wolf, your name was the first one that popped up as a possible partner
other than that, it was as I said, mostly not wanting to kill in Alison or Long
and you were a train still, wigly and misery were not

Out of curiosity:
Why do you think they're partnered?

I had unpaired thoughts earlier.

well ur gun to the head read has me as a wolf with Alison
so forgive my bad reads
I tend to get partnery vibes from certain callouts, and Tess calling out Gira felt like such

ftr, while I have started bussing some recently, I've never cased a partner once unless they were already likely to die

Wisp wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:57 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:52 pm

Wisp wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:49 pm @tessepia
a specific reason? because when I thought about the idea of Gira being a wolf, your name was the first one that popped up as a possible partner
other than that, it was as I said, mostly not wanting to kill in Alison or Long
and you were a train still, wigly and misery were not

Out of curiosity:
Why do you think they're partnered?

I had unpaired thoughts earlier.

well ur gun to the head read has me as a wolf with Alison
so forgive my bad reads
I tend to get partnery vibes from certain callouts, and Tess calling out Gira felt like such

Hey, don't call your reads bad. I had a different read and I wanted your opinion because I'm not set on my reads being perfect.

I want to know your opinion because if you're town then I need to find you town so I get my reads right.

I literally get one shot at this today. Because either I get flipped or you guys flip Tess and I die tonight.

The question wasn't a "I disagree you are wrong"

It was a "I got a different read. Take me through your read and let me see what you're seeing."

So, ignore my thought on it for now, I'll come back to that later and review.

What post was it that made you think that? Take me through your reads for a moment.

tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:35 pm @falcon45ca are u gonna play or are you going to lynch the cop

We've got some time before EOD, ya?




I'm not dipping, I've got a life and kids and all that jazz

Ftr I will 100% engage each person in my POE as if they were town and discuss their worldview. That include Alison who I will struggle to not have as lock wolf this game.

Because I want to create the holistic worldview that gets this game home.

Side note:
Tess' poe being very similar to mine is interesting and I can't decide if it's WIFOM or if it's actually that I'm missing someone.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:04 pm Side note:
Tess' poe being very similar to mine is interesting and I can't decide if it's WIFOM or if it's actually that I'm missing someone.

maybe we're both just town?

tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 3:49 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 3:30 pm I was gonna offer to fall on my sword today and then y'all can just burn the POE from the knowledge LC and I are T/T, but since Tess has a check that works too

why would you have done that

it would be lylo tomorrow you realize

I definitely don't want to be around in LyLo with this much suspicion on me

and wilgy is the wolf all along

tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:14 pm and wilgy is the wolf all along

i'm telling you guys-

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 4:28 pm Difference between Dr Wilgy and Tess which is useless at this point.

lol

Wisp wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:17 pm

tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:12 pm why were you going for a w/w check anyways ender, that doesn't really make sense

Point taken, I would check someone who I'm confident about their alignment, who may or might not die, which would give me a clear check

You are supposed to check two people who are individually likely to be scum but who cannot be scum together. Either you clear two POE or you find a mafia.

Alison's return reminds me that anyone with a town read on Alison--not many people at this point tbf but still--should be voting Ender, cause in that case I just don't claim today

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:54 pm Btw I'm gonna focus on trying to sort the rest of the game when I get home. I'm not going to bother trying to defend myself/bury Tess because if you guys think coffee-less scum!Ender actually didn't just snap-cc Wilgy who he reckons he can beat in a cc battle and instead picks hard mode vs Tess then idk what to tell you.

Bit of a coincidence that scum Tess outing to bury a town for no reason happened to hit the two exact PRs, isn't it?

Especially when that world, from her pov, most likely leads to Wilgy being buried and her trading 1 for 1 for him?

tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:13 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:04 pm Side note:
Tess' poe being very similar to mine is interesting and I can't decide if it's WIFOM or if it's actually that I'm missing someone.

maybe we're both just town?

jkjk

.... unless

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:51 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:50 pm

tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:47 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:45 pm Tess, where's the Wiggin vote?

why are people asking me this

Because I'd like to know where the Wiggin vote is.

Nothing up my sleeve.

Guess it's in my butt

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:19 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:54 pm Btw I'm gonna focus on trying to sort the rest of the game when I get home. I'm not going to bother trying to defend myself/bury Tess because if you guys think coffee-less scum!Ender actually didn't just snap-cc Wilgy who he reckons he can beat in a cc battle and instead picks hard mode vs Tess then idk what to tell you.

Bit of a coincidence that scum Tess outing to bury a town for no reason happened to hit the two exact PRs, isn't it?

Especially when that world, from her pov, most likely leads to Wilgy being buried and her trading 1 for 1 for him?

I mean that's a coincidence no matter which way.

Either town Tess found PR + Scum or Scum Tess hit both PR.

Honestly pretty unique situation that, and hilarious.

man Tess' iso is pretty bare, outside talking about mizery, gira, and Dizzy

Mizery wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:15 pm

tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:14 pm and wilgy is the wolf all along

i'm telling you guys-

Shh. Hush hush now Mizery, it'll be ok. *Pat pat*

tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:23 pm

Wisp wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:21 pm For people on this site who have tones of experience with Alison. I know she is aggressive player, but how common is it to just tunnel indefinitely based on what she perceives to be wolfy, while ignoring anything that might make them townie?

I don't recall her having done that as a wolf, and it's not particularly common for her as town but does happen. She's told me before she used to do it more often because of things like, she thinks if she backs out of the dome it'll look wolfy, she doesn't want to admit she was wrong after doming someone, etc, which I can especially see why she would get conf biased against BK considering well, he pretty much was doing nothing but AtEing and calling her a wolf

It was definitely correct to kill LC there, I saw him flip town and still had no regrets. When I tdome a town I usually regret it (Overtime, Mountaintop) but here I don't at all.

@tessepia
would you consider yourself a good PR hunter?

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:24 pm

tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:23 pm

Wisp wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:21 pm For people on this site who have tones of experience with Alison. I know she is aggressive player, but how common is it to just tunnel indefinitely based on what she perceives to be wolfy, while ignoring anything that might make them townie?

I don't recall her having done that as a wolf, and it's not particularly common for her as town but does happen. She's told me before she used to do it more often because of things like, she thinks if she backs out of the dome it'll look wolfy, she doesn't want to admit she was wrong after doming someone, etc, which I can especially see why she would get conf biased against BK considering well, he pretty much was doing nothing but AtEing and calling her a wolf

It was definitely correct to kill LC there, I saw him flip town and still had no regrets. When I tdome a town I usually regret it (Overtime, Mountaintop) but here I don't at all.

why not?

Mechanically speaking if a cop claims a guilty on someone and that person CCs cop then the CCer is most likely mafia.

I am leaning towards voting Ender here.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:25 pm Mechanically speaking if a cop claims a guilty on someone and that person CCs cop then the CCer is most likely mafia.

I am leaning towards voting Ender here.

I'm shocked.

Shocked I say.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:25 pm Mechanically speaking if a cop claims a guilty on someone and that person CCs cop then the CCer is most likely mafia.

I am leaning towards voting Ender here.

Yass

Wisp wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:25 pm @tessepia
would you consider yourself a good PR hunter?

I'd say I'm decent. Not amazing but I think I hit PR's more often than not as a wolf. That being said I think going for kills like Nanook are really bad who is ONLY a good kill if a PR, and bad otherwise, especially night 1.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:25 pm Mechanically speaking if a cop claims a guilty on someone and that person CCs cop then the CCer is most likely mafia.

I am leaning towards voting Ender here.

for once we agree on something

tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:25 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:24 pm

tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:23 pm

Wisp wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:21 pm For people on this site who have tones of experience with Alison. I know she is aggressive player, but how common is it to just tunnel indefinitely based on what she perceives to be wolfy, while ignoring anything that might make them townie?

I don't recall her having done that as a wolf, and it's not particularly common for her as town but does happen. She's told me before she used to do it more often because of things like, she thinks if she backs out of the dome it'll look wolfy, she doesn't want to admit she was wrong after doming someone, etc, which I can especially see why she would get conf biased against BK considering well, he pretty much was doing nothing but AtEing and calling her a wolf

It was definitely correct to kill LC there, I saw him flip town and still had no regrets. When I tdome a town I usually regret it (Overtime, Mountaintop) but here I don't at all.

why not?

Because he was trolling the thread like crazy? Every page was just him AtEing and yelling, he hard griefed EOD1 as a townie, etc. He also said stuff that implied scum TMI twice for no reason.

He contributed nothing to the town and was an actively hostile and malignant force towards us. After the way D1 went I knew he had to go and D2 sealed the deal.

Wisp wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:22 pm man Tess' iso is pretty bare, outside talking about mizery, gira, and Dizzy

ftr I recognize that--that's why, as I've said, I claimed outright today. Also doing stuff like that isn't too uncommon for me regardless of alignment as people can attest to

I want this on record:
No matter who gets flipped today

Once you've finally got around to flipping Tess.

Flip Alison next.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:28 pm Because he was trolling the thread like crazy? Every page was just him AtEing and yelling, he hard griefed EOD1 as a townie, etc. He also said stuff that implied scum TMI twice for no reason.

He contributed nothing to the town and was an actively hostile and malignant force towards us. After the way D1 went I knew he had to go and D2 sealed the deal.

I'd be less harsh but do kinda agree, just wanted to know why you thought so