The Syndicate

Millium wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:48 pm did Seanzie 180 on me? I remember they had me as a town lean

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:39 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:32 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:30 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:25 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:23 pm [VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine

My dear Seanzie what have I done to earn your ire?

I'm not sure yet, but I have a bad feeling.

@EnderWiggin Seanzie is to Mac what Mac is to Ender.

Seanzie I understand. Do what you need to do. It will probably help if you were to ask me to explain things that you're curious about though. And if you have no curiosity but just a bad feeling that's ok.

Where would your vote be if it was EoD and your vote was the only one that counted, and why aren't you voting there now?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 6:45 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 6:44 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:19 pm Eh fuck it. I'll respect Mac's read that it could be Aro W and Wisp V.

As well as the fact that all of dyachei + Ender + Alison + Mac + SPF thinks that Aro is howling which means this is as close to an actual red check as it is possible to be.

[VOTE: Arogame] aubergine

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:20 pm No more vote switches after this, I have a reputation to maintain.

Ppl who played the last game Alison was mafia in should know this is outing.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:02 pm What's your reads right now Chamo?

And yes I don't care that you probably are putting my name in the scumleans.

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:41 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 6:12 pm Alison do be kinda outed lol.

How so?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:51 pm I haven't exactly thought about it until now but I don't want Porscha to become a runaway wagon. If Porscha is town me voting them early really telegraphs today's miselim to the mafia and will decrease the net productivity of the day's play tbh.

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:48 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:30 pm seanzie why did you do a 180 on millium yesterday? was it just for reactions?

@Seanzie

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:54 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:48 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:30 pm seanzie why did you do a 180 on millium yesterday? was it just for reactions?

@Seanzie

No. Have you read everything? (it's okay if you haven't, just curious/trying to put your question in perspective)

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:53 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:41 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 6:12 pm Alison do be kinda outed lol.

How so?

I was in a different place mentally when I said this, but the reasoning for suspecting Alison is:

1. They deviated off of their Mafia principles to vote for Aro over Millium.
2. I would think that of all the players here they would be the most against eliminating someone as strong as Aro on day 1.
3. Nanook has a good recent history of scumreading Alison.
4. They have misrepresented Arogame's legacy a little bit.

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 7:11 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 7:06 pm aight im doming ilario today

Ur doing a great job of honoring aros legacy

You’ve somehow managed to vote his tr, ignore his srs, and manage to descent into chaos in a manner of minutes lol

I’m just going to solve around you then

Millium wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:54 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:51 pm I haven't exactly thought about it until now but I don't want Porscha to become a runaway wagon. If Porscha is town me voting them early really telegraphs today's miselim to the mafia and will decrease the net productivity of the day's play tbh.

this early into the day phase, you think that's a problem
might just be a #skillissue honestly

but no one has really said what I should be looking for from them
cause they didn't do much day 1, and just got angry today which seems like an overexaggeration, coupled with their aloofness in their first post
I've never really liked "wtf happened" feels fake

Millium wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:45 pm is Nanook making bad posts with an agenda, not really
if there attention was to pick a target as a wolf, was to sus at least someone, and not get bounce back, I doubt they pick Alison

Alison IMO really twisted Aro's words last night, playing in this I am obvious town world, and Aro was bad for not knowing that. Thats how I read their play around EoD
to be fair though, I really thought Aro was bullshitting with that tied vote claim
then they immediately shift to, time to trust their reads
there is nothing wrong with listening to dead townies, but you usually focus on the dead townies who were night killed, over the ones that were mislynched
that's my opinion, so I find it a bit weird, especially when im used to Alison just shitting on play even after they are dead

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:51 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:39 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:32 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:30 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:25 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:23 pm [VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine

My dear Seanzie what have I done to earn your ire?

I'm not sure yet, but I have a bad feeling.

@EnderWiggin Seanzie is to Mac what Mac is to Ender.

Seanzie I understand. Do what you need to do. It will probably help if you were to ask me to explain things that you're curious about though. And if you have no curiosity but just a bad feeling that's ok.

Where would your vote be if it was EoD and your vote was the only one that counted, and why aren't you voting there now?

I would be voting on Porscha for a couple of reasons all that revolve around the thought that they are the most likely to flip wolf.

I am not voting there now because I simply have not been compelled to cast a vote yet. I don't think it matters as I have pressured Porscha in more ways than a vote would do. I haven't exactly thought about it until now but I don't want Porscha to become a runaway wagon. If Porscha is town me voting them early really telegraphs today's miselim to the mafia and will decrease the net productivity of the day's play tbh.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:56 pm @dyachei assuming that you are town that pushed Arogame. How would you expect the wolves to handle the opportunity that was presented to eliminate Arogame on day 1 generally? Do you think that they are more likely to exhibit TMI and ensure they are on the right side of the miselim by voting elsewhere and opposing the chop, or do you think that it is more likely that they would capitalise on our willingness to kill someone that strong on day 1 and be part of the wagon?

If the answer is player dependent, can you take a look at the wagon and tell me who on it is of the wolf mindset to take advantage in that way?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:53 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:41 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 6:12 pm Alison do be kinda outed lol.

How so?

I was in a different place mentally when I said this, but the reasoning for suspecting Alison is:

1. They deviated off of their Mafia principles to vote for Aro over Millium.
2. I would think that of all the players here they would be the most against eliminating someone as strong as Aro on day 1.
3. Nanook has a good recent history of scumreading Alison.
4. They have misrepresented Arogame's legacy a little bit.

Chamomile wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:54 pm [VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Begone. One Piece is mine.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:59 pm

Millium wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:45 pm is Nanook making bad posts with an agenda, not really
if there attention was to pick a target as a wolf, was to sus at least someone, and not get bounce back, I doubt they pick Alison

Alison IMO really twisted Aro's words last night, playing in this I am obvious town world, and Aro was bad for not knowing that. Thats how I read their play around EoD
to be fair though, I really thought Aro was bullshitting with that tied vote claim
then they immediately shift to, time to trust their reads
there is nothing wrong with listening to dead townies, but you usually focus on the dead townies who were night killed, over the ones that were mislynched
that's my opinion, so I find it a bit weird, especially when im used to Alison just shitting on play even after they are dead

Cry about it

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:59 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:51 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:39 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:32 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:30 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:25 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:23 pm [VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine

My dear Seanzie what have I done to earn your ire?

I'm not sure yet, but I have a bad feeling.

@EnderWiggin Seanzie is to Mac what Mac is to Ender.

Seanzie I understand. Do what you need to do. It will probably help if you were to ask me to explain things that you're curious about though. And if you have no curiosity but just a bad feeling that's ok.

Where would your vote be if it was EoD and your vote was the only one that counted, and why aren't you voting there now?

I would be voting on Porscha for a couple of reasons all that revolve around the thought that they are the most likely to flip wolf.

I am not voting there now because I simply have not been compelled to cast a vote yet. I don't think it matters as I have pressured Porscha in more ways than a vote would do. I haven't exactly thought about it until now but I don't want Porscha to become a runaway wagon. If Porscha is town me voting them early really telegraphs today's miselim to the mafia and will decrease the net productivity of the day's play tbh.

Do you think the shift from Millium to Aro yesterday was bad, or no?

Millium wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:02 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:59 pm

Millium wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:45 pm is Nanook making bad posts with an agenda, not really
if there attention was to pick a target as a wolf, was to sus at least someone, and not get bounce back, I doubt they pick Alison

Alison IMO really twisted Aro's words last night, playing in this I am obvious town world, and Aro was bad for not knowing that. Thats how I read their play around EoD
to be fair though, I really thought Aro was bullshitting with that tied vote claim
then they immediately shift to, time to trust their reads
there is nothing wrong with listening to dead townies, but you usually focus on the dead townies who were night killed, over the ones that were mislynched
that's my opinion, so I find it a bit weird, especially when im used to Alison just shitting on play even after they are dead

Cry about it

its mafia, im always crying on the inside
but still not a relevant response to my post

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:00 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:56 pm @dyachei assuming that you are town that pushed Arogame. How would you expect the wolves to handle the opportunity that was presented to eliminate Arogame on day 1 generally? Do you think that they are more likely to exhibit TMI and ensure they are on the right side of the miselim by voting elsewhere and opposing the chop, or do you think that it is more likely that they would capitalise on our willingness to kill someone that strong on day 1 and be part of the wagon?

If the answer is player dependent, can you take a look at the wagon and tell me who on it is of the wolf mindset to take advantage in that way?

I dont think of arogame as a mafia god so I'm not sure why I would assume mafia would go all out to elim aro. like I don't think of them as a super strong player. so the premise is off?

Millium wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:03 pm what constitutes day 1 pass material? the main syndicate peeps?
I would argue Aro has a history of being bullied because of their thoughts, the qualifier game? was a big example of that

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:00 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:56 pm @dyachei assuming that you are town that pushed Arogame. How would you expect the wolves to handle the opportunity that was presented to eliminate Arogame on day 1 generally? Do you think that they are more likely to exhibit TMI and ensure they are on the right side of the miselim by voting elsewhere and opposing the chop, or do you think that it is more likely that they would capitalise on our willingness to kill someone that strong on day 1 and be part of the wagon?

If the answer is player dependent, can you take a look at the wagon and tell me who on it is of the wolf mindset to take advantage in that way?

I dont think of arogame as a mafia god so I'm not sure why I would assume mafia would go all out to elim aro. like I don't think of them as a super strong player. so the premise is off?

Chamomile wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:03 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:00 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:56 pm @dyachei assuming that you are town that pushed Arogame. How would you expect the wolves to handle the opportunity that was presented to eliminate Arogame on day 1 generally? Do you think that they are more likely to exhibit TMI and ensure they are on the right side of the miselim by voting elsewhere and opposing the chop, or do you think that it is more likely that they would capitalise on our willingness to kill someone that strong on day 1 and be part of the wagon?

If the answer is player dependent, can you take a look at the wagon and tell me who on it is of the wolf mindset to take advantage in that way?

I dont think of arogame as a mafia god so I'm not sure why I would assume mafia would go all out to elim aro. like I don't think of them as a super strong player. so the premise is off?

You should rectify your ignorance. It is Aro's strength as a player and his legacy that will lead us to one piece victory.

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 7:05 pm

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 7:03 pm Man macs 180 on aro is really bad in conjunction with trying to push dya and me with the spf kill

mac 180'd on aro? as in he tr'd aro and then sr'd him, or vice versa?

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:03 pm

Millium wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:02 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:59 pm

Millium wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:45 pm is Nanook making bad posts with an agenda, not really
if there attention was to pick a target as a wolf, was to sus at least someone, and not get bounce back, I doubt they pick Alison

Alison IMO really twisted Aro's words last night, playing in this I am obvious town world, and Aro was bad for not knowing that. Thats how I read their play around EoD
to be fair though, I really thought Aro was bullshitting with that tied vote claim
then they immediately shift to, time to trust their reads
there is nothing wrong with listening to dead townies, but you usually focus on the dead townies who were night killed, over the ones that were mislynched
that's my opinion, so I find it a bit weird, especially when im used to Alison just shitting on play even after they are dead

Cry about it

its mafia, im always crying on the inside
but still not a relevant response to my post

Here's a relevant response to your post:

Everything you have just said is wrong.

Your characterization of my EOD play is wrong.
Your characterization on whether or not to listen to dead townies is wrong.
Your characterization on how often I shit on the play of good players is wrong.

I invite you to present a single shred of evidence that any of those three things is right. You haven't because the evidence doesn't exist. You suspecting me at this juncture is basically outing and only Aro's read on you keeps me from doming you.

Millium wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:05 pm outting means very little coming from your mouth

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:05 pm porchas posts have been decent today

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:00 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:53 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:41 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 6:12 pm Alison do be kinda outed lol.

How so?

I was in a different place mentally when I said this, but the reasoning for suspecting Alison is:

1. They deviated off of their Mafia principles to vote for Aro over Millium.
2. I would think that of all the players here they would be the most against eliminating someone as strong as Aro on day 1.
3. Nanook has a good recent history of scumreading Alison.
4. They have misrepresented Arogame's legacy a little bit.

1) I didn't, it wasn't close enough to EOD
2) Aro isn't D1 pass material, and they were scummy enough that I would have voted even you if you were in that position
3) Nanook does not have a good recent history of scumreading Alison, see Cats vs Dogs
4) I misremembered and was corrected and changed my reads due to that. Sue me for having a bad memory.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:02 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:59 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:51 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:39 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:32 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:30 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:25 pm

My dear Seanzie what have I done to earn your ire?

I'm not sure yet, but I have a bad feeling.

@EnderWiggin Seanzie is to Mac what Mac is to Ender.

Seanzie I understand. Do what you need to do. It will probably help if you were to ask me to explain things that you're curious about though. And if you have no curiosity but just a bad feeling that's ok.

Where would your vote be if it was EoD and your vote was the only one that counted, and why aren't you voting there now?

I would be voting on Porscha for a couple of reasons all that revolve around the thought that they are the most likely to flip wolf.

I am not voting there now because I simply have not been compelled to cast a vote yet. I don't think it matters as I have pressured Porscha in more ways than a vote would do. I haven't exactly thought about it until now but I don't want Porscha to become a runaway wagon. If Porscha is town me voting them early really telegraphs today's miselim to the mafia and will decrease the net productivity of the day's play tbh.

Do you think the shift from Millium to Aro yesterday was bad, or no?

It resulted in the loss of a strong town player with a strong role so I think it is obviously bad.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:04 pm

Chamomile wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:03 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:00 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:56 pm @dyachei assuming that you are town that pushed Arogame. How would you expect the wolves to handle the opportunity that was presented to eliminate Arogame on day 1 generally? Do you think that they are more likely to exhibit TMI and ensure they are on the right side of the miselim by voting elsewhere and opposing the chop, or do you think that it is more likely that they would capitalise on our willingness to kill someone that strong on day 1 and be part of the wagon?

If the answer is player dependent, can you take a look at the wagon and tell me who on it is of the wolf mindset to take advantage in that way?

I dont think of arogame as a mafia god so I'm not sure why I would assume mafia would go all out to elim aro. like I don't think of them as a super strong player. so the premise is off?

You should rectify your ignorance. It is Aro's strength as a player and his legacy that will lead us to one piece victory.

His legacy is that you are mafia and I should be permitted to clear myself at night.

Millium wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:06 pm

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:05 pm porchas posts have been decent today

people keep saying this, how so?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:06 pm What was more recent, cats vs. dogs or the game in which Nanook wanted you to die on day 1 but I saved you and then tried to policy chop you day 2 but you snowed me and survived anyway?

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:06 pm

Millium wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:05 pm outting means very little coming from your mouth

I see no shred of evidence presented and your opinion is therefore ignored. You have been scumsiding all game tbh.

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:05 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 7:05 pm

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 7:03 pm Man macs 180 on aro is really bad in conjunction with trying to push dya and me with the spf kill

mac 180'd on aro? as in he tr'd aro and then sr'd him, or vice versa?

well he spent the entire early game advocating for an aro tell in which if aro is getting piled on by the lobby hes more likely town (which is probs a correct tell), he also wanted to keep aro because aro makes good content.

and then once everyone started to dogpile on aro he joined in harder than anyone despite his own logic earlier in the game should have been leading him to the different conclusion. i also think he was trying really hard to signal boost alisons reads near eod which would look bad in a world where both aro and wisp are both

@mac since u are obsessed with trying to catch out santy and aro for making tmi reads if ur town here u should probably look at d1 because porchas posts have been decent today but i defs got the feeling certain slots were tmi'ing her town on d1 when i read over

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:06 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:02 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:59 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:51 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:39 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:32 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:30 pm

I'm not sure yet, but I have a bad feeling.

@EnderWiggin Seanzie is to Mac what Mac is to Ender.

Seanzie I understand. Do what you need to do. It will probably help if you were to ask me to explain things that you're curious about though. And if you have no curiosity but just a bad feeling that's ok.

Where would your vote be if it was EoD and your vote was the only one that counted, and why aren't you voting there now?

I would be voting on Porscha for a couple of reasons all that revolve around the thought that they are the most likely to flip wolf.

I am not voting there now because I simply have not been compelled to cast a vote yet. I don't think it matters as I have pressured Porscha in more ways than a vote would do. I haven't exactly thought about it until now but I don't want Porscha to become a runaway wagon. If Porscha is town me voting them early really telegraphs today's miselim to the mafia and will decrease the net productivity of the day's play tbh.

Do you think the shift from Millium to Aro yesterday was bad, or no?

It resulted in the loss of a strong town player with a strong role so I think it is obviously bad.

I think it's bad for a much deeper reason. Aside from the actual consequences, what does it say about the gamestate?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:07 pm I do agree that you should be permitted to attempt to mech self resolve yourself and that you were disallowed that on day 1 was a misplay.

Millium wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:09 pm I mean there was no harm in letting Alison mechanically do something if they could
Nanook was being Nanook for no reason
What could have been the worst thing that could have happened with allowing Alison to get their bonus

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:07 pm

Millium wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:06 pm

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:05 pm porchas posts have been decent today

people keep saying this, how so?

seems like theyre trying to solve, reaction to mac seems towny

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:07 pm tilg not being here has thrown a wrench in my plans as i wanted to dedicate a good amount of time into tunneling that slot, oh well.

btw if tilg is mafia they might have perspective slipped seanzie as a partner, which is a little hard for me to swallow because i find seanzies posting to be towny so ill probably only go there after and if tilg flips wolf

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:07 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:06 pm What was more recent, cats vs. dogs or the game in which Nanook wanted you to die on day 1 but I saved you and then tried to policy chop you day 2 but you snowed me and survived anyway?

Does it matter which is more recent? Do you always sheep the opinions of everyone who has a correct read in the last game they played?

When was the last game Nanook thought I was town? Maybe he just suspects me every game. I have felt that way because I have a very incompatible playstyle with him.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:04 pm

Chamomile wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:03 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:00 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:56 pm @dyachei assuming that you are town that pushed Arogame. How would you expect the wolves to handle the opportunity that was presented to eliminate Arogame on day 1 generally? Do you think that they are more likely to exhibit TMI and ensure they are on the right side of the miselim by voting elsewhere and opposing the chop, or do you think that it is more likely that they would capitalise on our willingness to kill someone that strong on day 1 and be part of the wagon?

If the answer is player dependent, can you take a look at the wagon and tell me who on it is of the wolf mindset to take advantage in that way?

I dont think of arogame as a mafia god so I'm not sure why I would assume mafia would go all out to elim aro. like I don't think of them as a super strong player. so the premise is off?

You should rectify your ignorance. It is Aro's strength as a player and his legacy that will lead us to one piece victory.

His legacy is that you are mafia and I should be permitted to clear myself at night.