The Syndicate

No seriously I have no idea what Im doing.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:33 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:09 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:08 pm Why is it so hard for people to beieve that baddies sometimes just out themselves?

Like, LC did that in the last GoC.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:08 pm Tranq is giving me "too bad to be bad" gut feelings.

Wild that these posts were made back to back.

etc.

DDL: Sometimes baddies just out themselves. Not hard to believe

Also DDL: Wow Tranq has been really shifty but its way too hard to believe he's bad. #2bad2bMafia

Cool and good post by DDL who is totally a civ.

Also I made four posts answering the one you just quoted. To requote it again with "etc" and ignore my replies is very rude.

I do remember seeing DDL respond to these accusations. What do we think of those responses?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:36 pm Also I made four posts answering the one you just quoted. To requote it again with "etc" and ignore my replies is very rude.

Wow very rude Mac.

I stand by my point that Tranq and INH are different.

One could be a civ who is just weird.

One is fucking with us for a purpose that is definitely not a civ one.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:34 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:30 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:28 pm I’m not sure I sense a big push to save. I get more of a confused vibe from the thread right now. We’ve got a player kamikazeeing and another player who seems to want us to think he lied. It’s an unusual situation.

Baddies could certainly use that confusion to their advantage but I don’t know that I see a big push being orchestrated right now.

I think DDL needs looking at. He's being shifty.

#stoplynchingpeopleforbeingindecisive2019

Well for one I haven't lynched you. For two you are suspicious not for being indecisive but rather because you are being inconsistent with what you find suspicious.

Linki: It is also rude to say I suspect you for reasons I do not.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:37 pm I do remember seeing DDL respond to these accusations. What do we think of those responses?

lol didn't read.

That said Tranq self voting is throwing a wrench on the current read of him.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:38 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:36 pm Also I made four posts answering the one you just quoted. To requote it again with "etc" and ignore my replies is very rude.

Wow very rude Mac.

I mean I could express my current anger at you in more detail but I dont feel like giving work to JJJ.

So if you two can drop the elementary school bully act, I'll be thankful.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:39 pm I stand by my point that Tranq and INH are different.

One could be a civ who is just weird.

One is fucking with us for a purpose that is definitely not a civ one.

Or

...

Neither are a civ.

Do you genuinely have a civ read on Tranq. Like a civ read? Because ... I don't believe you.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:41 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:38 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:36 pm Also I made four posts answering the one you just quoted. To requote it again with "etc" and ignore my replies is very rude.

Wow very rude Mac.

I mean I could express my current anger at you in more detail but I dont feel like giving work to JJJ.

So if you two can drop the elementary school bully act, I'll be thankful.

I dunno what you're reading but I'm no bully.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:39 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:34 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:30 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:28 pm I’m not sure I sense a big push to save. I get more of a confused vibe from the thread right now. We’ve got a player kamikazeeing and another player who seems to want us to think he lied. It’s an unusual situation.

Baddies could certainly use that confusion to their advantage but I don’t know that I see a big push being orchestrated right now.

I think DDL needs looking at. He's being shifty.

#stoplynchingpeopleforbeingindecisive2019

Well for one I haven't lynched you. For two you are suspicious not for being indecisive but rather because you are being inconsistent with what you find suspicious.

Linki: It is also rude to say I suspect you for reasons I do not.

Hypocrisy is a staple of the civilian playbook.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:41 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:38 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:36 pm Also I made four posts answering the one you just quoted. To requote it again with "etc" and ignore my replies is very rude.

Wow very rude Mac.

I mean I could express my current anger at you in more detail but I dont feel like giving work to JJJ.

So if you two can drop the elementary school bully act, I'll be thankful.

What the fuck are you talking about?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:42 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:39 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:34 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:30 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:28 pm I’m not sure I sense a big push to save. I get more of a confused vibe from the thread right now. We’ve got a player kamikazeeing and another player who seems to want us to think he lied. It’s an unusual situation.

Baddies could certainly use that confusion to their advantage but I don’t know that I see a big push being orchestrated right now.

I think DDL needs looking at. He's being shifty.

#stoplynchingpeopleforbeingindecisive2019

Well for one I haven't lynched you. For two you are suspicious not for being indecisive but rather because you are being inconsistent with what you find suspicious.

Linki: It is also rude to say I suspect you for reasons I do not.

Hypocrisy is a staple of the civilian playbook.

Hypocrisy is not what I am describing.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:39 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:37 pm I do remember seeing DDL respond to these accusations. What do we think of those responses?

lol didn't read.

i’ve been running errands all day. I don’t remember everything that’s been saod. Y’all are criticizing DDL for something I know he has responded to already. I just want to see the conversation progress to a more helpful place.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:44 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:39 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:37 pm I do remember seeing DDL respond to these accusations. What do we think of those responses?

lol didn't read.

i’ve been running errands all day. I don’t remember everything that’s been saod. Y’all are criticizing DDL for something I know he has responded to already. I just want to see the conversation progress to a more helpful place.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:41 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:39 pm I stand by my point that Tranq and INH are different.

One could be a civ who is just weird.

One is fucking with us for a purpose that is definitely not a civ one.

Or

...

Neither are a civ.

Do you genuinely have a civ read on Tranq. Like a civ read? Because ... I don't believe you.

I have a bad read that I am second guessing like crazy.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:43 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:42 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:39 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:34 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:30 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:28 pm I’m not sure I sense a big push to save. I get more of a confused vibe from the thread right now. We’ve got a player kamikazeeing and another player who seems to want us to think he lied. It’s an unusual situation.

Baddies could certainly use that confusion to their advantage but I don’t know that I see a big push being orchestrated right now.

I think DDL needs looking at. He's being shifty.

#stoplynchingpeopleforbeingindecisive2019

Well for one I haven't lynched you. For two you are suspicious not for being indecisive but rather because you are being inconsistent with what you find suspicious.

Linki: It is also rude to say I suspect you for reasons I do not.

Hypocrisy is a staple of the civilian playbook.

Hypocrisy is not what I am describing.

It kind of is. He suspects one player of being too obvious to be bad. He expects another player of being too obvious not to be bad. Those things don’t align, but I don’t think it needs to reflect a dishonest mindset. I think he’s just responding to two different situations and has come to different conclusions.

I know that DDL tried to explain that he feels like there are differences. There ARE differences. I still fail to see how someone could arrive at a Tranq is civ and INH is lynchable because the differences are not stark enough.

But, DDL got upset so he's probably civ eh.

Town read on DDL. Meanwhile I know that DH and Mac don’t presently have civilian win condotions, so

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:19 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:09 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:08 pm Why is it so hard for people to beieve that baddies sometimes just out themselves?

Like, LC did that in the last GoC.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:08 pm Tranq is giving me "too bad to be bad" gut feelings.

Wild that these posts were made back to back.

It's different.

One thing is INH being drunk and saying something stupid on a whim.

Another is Tranq generally having a suspicious posting style across the whole game that sounds so crazy and weird you have to wonder why would a baddie be trying to post like that.

A single bad post is an accident, 50 bad posts is a trend. Do baddies try to look insane when they are bad, or do they try to look unsuspecting?

It's not different tho. You're saying sometimes the more obvious answer (a baddie fucked up and outted themselves and their shitposting is just that, shitposting of a baddie) is the correct answer. And then you say "Tranq, who is exhibiting a shitload of baddie behavior, isn't bad because that would be too obvious."

Sometimes, baddies just do really suspicious shit, man.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:46 pm Town read on DDL. Meanwhile I know that DH and Mac don’t presently have civilian win condotions, so

Mondo garbo TM

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:48 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:46 pm Town read on DDL. Meanwhile I know that DH and Mac don’t presently have civilian win condotions, so

Mondo garbo TM

I found that take in the garbage bin with your argument.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:46 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:43 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:42 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:39 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:34 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:30 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:28 pm I’m not sure I sense a big push to save. I get more of a confused vibe from the thread right now. We’ve got a player kamikazeeing and another player who seems to want us to think he lied. It’s an unusual situation.

Baddies could certainly use that confusion to their advantage but I don’t know that I see a big push being orchestrated right now.

I think DDL needs looking at. He's being shifty.

#stoplynchingpeopleforbeingindecisive2019

Well for one I haven't lynched you. For two you are suspicious not for being indecisive but rather because you are being inconsistent with what you find suspicious.

Linki: It is also rude to say I suspect you for reasons I do not.

Hypocrisy is a staple of the civilian playbook.

Hypocrisy is not what I am describing.

It kind of is. He suspects one player of being too obvious to be bad. He expects another player of being too obvious not to be bad. Those things don’t align, but I don’t think it needs to reflect a dishonest mindset. I think he’s just responding to two different situations and has come to different conclusions.

He has two different approaches for two different suspicious whack posters. There are obvious reasons as to why one would do that in this game.

Tranq is run of the mill slippy civ?

INH is genuinely just being a troll and not helping the civs at all.

OR

Tranq is genuinely a slipped up and caught scum.

INH is genuinely just being a troll and is almost certainly an indie with an esoteric win con.

For someone who has the mindset to find INH lynchable for his behaviour, to not arrive at a scum conclusion for Tranq is teammate indicative.

Especially since he also had his vote on Quin at one point. He's just trying to push the lynch that he thinks is most likely to resolve in a "not Tranq" lynch.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:46 pm Town read on DDL. Meanwhile I know that DH and Mac don’t presently have civilian win condotions, so

Why are you so defensive of DDL?

This whole situation reminds me of rundontwalk in the FE game.

He was one of the scummiest people Ive ever seen. Yet he was a civ.

He just liked to act like a shady bastard for fun. Pick fights with people, defend mafia members, tunnel vision, repply everything with OMGUS.

That's the vibe Im gerting from Tranq, albeit Tranq's personality is not that aggressive.

I dont want to repeat the mistake I made with rundontwalk.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:51 pm This whole situation reminds me of rundontwalk in the FE game.

He was one of the scummiest people Ive ever seen. Yet he was a civ.

He just liked to act like a shady bastard for fun. Pick fights with people, defend mafia members, tunnel vision, repply everything with OMGUS.

That's the vibe Im gerting from Tranq, albeit Tranq's personality is not that aggressive.

I dont want to repeat the mistake I made with rundontwalk.

Great but I really don't care about whoeverthefuck from down the block.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:51 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:46 pm Town read on DDL. Meanwhile I know that DH and Mac don’t presently have civilian win condotions, so

Why are you so defensive of DDL?

Because you’re attacking him and I disagree with what you are saying.

As for INH it feels more to me like a dumbass slip, followed by a bunch of damage control.

Either that or actual jester. Not sure.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:52 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:51 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:46 pm Town read on DDL. Meanwhile I know that DH and Mac don’t presently have civilian win condotions, so

Why are you so defensive of DDL?

Because you’re attacking him and I disagree with what you are saying.

And Quin is the textbook baddie not being good at looking civ.

Eh I'll vote Quin imo.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:52 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:51 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:46 pm Town read on DDL. Meanwhile I know that DH and Mac don’t presently have civilian win condotions, so

Why are you so defensive of DDL?

Because you’re attacking him and I disagree with what you are saying.

What if you're wrong?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:54 pm As for INH it feels more to me like a dumbass slip, followed by a bunch of damage control.

Either that or actual jester. Not sure.

This is where I’m at on INH. Tranq has been less willfully bad and I share some of your reservations about lynching him. I still see it as possible that he’s just playing a weird game. I don’t think he’s an awful lynch choice, but he’s comfortably in third place on my list of preferences among our three candidates today.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:55 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:52 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:51 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:46 pm Town read on DDL. Meanwhile I know that DH and Mac don’t presently have civilian win condotions, so

Why are you so defensive of DDL?

Because you’re attacking him and I disagree with what you are saying.

What if you're wrong?

Then I’m wrong. What if you’re wrong?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:54 pm And Quin is the textbook baddie not being good at looking civ.

Eh I'll vote Quin imo.

Excuse me I'm great at looking civ

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:54 pm And Quin is the textbook baddie not being good at looking civ.

Eh I'll vote Quin imo.

"Who is being saved" they ask.

I dunno man its a mystery, guys. Can't crack it. Is the guy who is voting to save Tranq based on a flimsy double-standard his teammate? Who can say. Lmao.

This reminds me of that time you guys teamed up to derail my juliets case on Day 1.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:59 pm This reminds me of that time you guys teamed up to derail my juliets case on Day 1.

Wild, when did I do that.

Quin has been lurking and watching the thread and not saying shit. Didn't he do the same thing yesterday?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:57 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:55 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:52 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:51 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:46 pm Town read on DDL. Meanwhile I know that DH and Mac don’t presently have civilian win condotions, so

Why are you so defensive of DDL?

Because you’re attacking him and I disagree with what you are saying.

What if you're wrong?

Then I’m wrong. What if you’re wrong?

If I'm wrong about DDL then maybe some time down the line we lynch a civilian because of my hounding.

If you're wrong then maybe we don't end up lynching a mafia.

One of those things results in the civs losing the game and one does not.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:59 pm This reminds me of that time you guys teamed up to derail my juliets case on Day 1.

Lol yes well you'd think you'd have learned a lesson from that ay Sloo.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:01 pm Quin has been lurking and watching the thread and not saying shit. Didn't he do the same thing yesterday?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:57 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:55 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:52 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:51 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:46 pm Town read on DDL. Meanwhile I know that DH and Mac don’t presently have civilian win condotions, so

Why are you so defensive of DDL?

Because you’re attacking him and I disagree with what you are saying.

What if you're wrong?

Then I’m wrong. What if you’re wrong?

If I'm wrong about DDL then maybe some time down the line we lynch a civilian because of my hounding.

If you're wrong then maybe we don't end up lynching a mafia.

One of those things results in the civs losing the game and one does not.

Lynching a civilian is the same exact thing as not lynching mafia.

This conversation contributes nothing to the game.

Enough of this lameness.

INH wants votes. That's probably not a good thing for us.

Quin/Tranq either way I am happy.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:03 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:01 pm Quin has been lurking and watching the thread and not saying shit. Didn't he do the same thing yesterday?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:57 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:55 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:52 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:51 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:46 pm Town read on DDL. Meanwhile I know that DH and Mac don’t presently have civilian win condotions, so

Why are you so defensive of DDL?

Because you’re attacking him and I disagree with what you are saying.

What if you're wrong?

Then I’m wrong. What if you’re wrong?

If I'm wrong about DDL then maybe some time down the line we lynch a civilian because of my hounding.

If you're wrong then maybe we don't end up lynching a mafia.

One of those things results in the civs losing the game and one does not.

Lynching a civilian is the same exact thing as not lynching mafia.

This conversation contributes nothing to the game.

It absolutely is not.

You can lynch civilians and win. You can't leave Mafia players alive.

hey get this guys, what if you lynched me instead?

What if everything I've been doing so far in this game has been meticulously planned out to benefit the civilian cause, but y'all are messing it up at the 11th hour by being a bunch of indecisive pansies?

duckin' lynch me, you cowards.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:00 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:59 pm This reminds me of that time you guys teamed up to derail my juliets case on Day 1.

Wild, when did I do that.

Day 1

TFW two non-civs are dunking on the mafia so hard

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:04 pm hey get this guys, what if you lynched me instead?

What if everything I've been doing so far in this game has been meticulously planned out to benefit the civilian cause, but y'all are messing it up at the 11th hour by being a bunch of indecisive pansies?

duckin' lynch me, you cowards.

That would be great except for that no

I do not suspect DDL. I share many of the same viewpoints he has expressed. I think he’s been a strong voice in the thread from Day 0. I disagree with the suspicion which is being brought against him right now, but I appreciate that it exists. My read is not settled but I’m comfortable with it and not convinced by anythinf that’s being said now.

How confident are we that Tranq is bad?

IDK Guys this game is wild

Are DDL and Tranq teammates

Are Sloonei and DDL teammates

Fuggin crazy man. Woof.