are the people in my opinion had the scummiest day 2's
koba and michelle i started off scumreading but i thought had some good stuff, so im deciding what to think
radish, poison and falcon are the other 3 people i had the intention to scumread, still havent decided yet / havent read back / havent seen a lot today to judge
Other than Nook I vibe with a lot of this.
Made was towny D1 but I'm wavering on that one. His D2 has not felt good.
How do you vibe with me being read as mafia? Asking like from DVC after i flipped town
Honestly?
You're poisoned, it's not worth my time to solve you unless you live.
We can only trust the truth. Everything else is a lie.
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:09 pm
well anyway:
i think michelle is mafia and the poisoner is town-aligned so good job poisoner
let me write up the thing i was finna write
i also thing syn is town and there was nothing but town on town violence day 1, will also write up on that
that's quite bold to assume honestly, i think town poisoner would have a variety of choices over Michelle as per yesterdays' chaos.
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:17 pm
i think that @Syn is town due to his lack of self-pres. i have played with both town and mafia syn. if he tryhards its a towntell for him. he can be low energy as either alignment. the thing is, he acknowledged that he is on the chopping block. he saw that he is a top wagon and said "maybe i should go read back". he was online 30 minds before eoD iirc (as in he posted itt). i believe that it is more likely that if he is mafia, he will put the extra effort for his team to leave a self-pres vote. thats how most people feel like, since if they are part of a mafia team on discord it feels more intimate. if you are town you dont know your teammates, you might as well be playing solo.
so i think that syn's complete lack of interest (also the "i just voted for the name closest to mine" stuff are too absurd to come from scum. i think he is town
@Syn i need ur help. the good old syn-tutuu one-two combo punch. like the good old times. i got some wolves in my sights but i cant kill them on my own. i need ur big dick energy
I actually have to agree that I have thought the same about certain things mentioned here and hence now i'm hesitating to hard scum read syn tbh.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:19 pm
@EnderWiggin thoughts on tutuu?
I feel like most people here don't realise how dangerous mafia Tutuu really is tbh. She had the best scum game of anyone I've ever seen not so long ago. She's probably the best player on the site at playing the wolf alignment. And I am a confirmed town telling you that I have felt zero mind melds with her and almost every one of her pushes has been opposed to me.
Hmm.
I had her as scummy early, then as towny.
I'll ISO her when I'm home and get back to you, alright?
We can only trust the truth. Everything else is a lie.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:03 pm
I kinda wanted to see how long I could go with the gimmick and retain the ability to get some amount of thoughts across, id say it worked reasonably well and the people paying attention/trying to were mostly able to accurately interpret it.
I'm dropping it now just because I cannot emphasize enough how epi is not townie and should not be townread
Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:31 am
Also, I looked through tutuu's ISO and say I actually have no idea about her now, it's null. Must have misread ISO at first. Could be the site colors.
?
Checked ISO after EOD, didn't see solid content. Then I said their ISO read fine in general, IIRC. Wilgy pushed me for that, which is understandable in hindsight.
Not sure what her ISO looks like on D2 though.
How do the site colours change the words?
Like, all the white got squished into letters. I actually had a hard time keeping track of what players were saying due to the 'overwhelming' feel.
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:17 pm
i think that @Syn is town due to his lack of self-pres. i have played with both town and mafia syn. if he tryhards its a towntell for him. he can be low energy as either alignment. the thing is, he acknowledged that he is on the chopping block. he saw that he is a top wagon and said "maybe i should go read back". he was online 30 minds before eoD iirc (as in he posted itt). i believe that it is more likely that if he is mafia, he will put the extra effort for his team to leave a self-pres vote. thats how most people feel like, since if they are part of a mafia team on discord it feels more intimate. if you are town you dont know your teammates, you might as well be playing solo.
so i think that syn's complete lack of interest (also the "i just voted for the name closest to mine" stuff are too absurd to come from scum. i think he is town
@Syn i need ur help. the good old syn-tutuu one-two combo punch. like the good old times. i got some wolves in my sights but i cant kill them on my own. i need ur big dick energy
alas, only tiny pp auras to be found here
lets have fun playing mafia fam! i think there were plenty of memes this game, it has been funny. i feel nice. is there something bothering u?
True, I am having fun after a long while.
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:52 pm
i will say i can confirm that Poison was not the poisoner here ... the pun did not work out here.
wait a second @DkKoba did you target me last night?
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:56 pm
last night i targeted poison bc i was too lazy to reread and mac said they were a 3p read and i hate all 3p so i went on it LMFAO
scotty/sig still on my scumdar
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME????????????????????????????
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:18 pm
michelle, i intentionally posted those games i did to show that everything you've tried to sling at me is strictly NAI for me and you refuse to look at the information and inform yourself. that's your own fault if anything.
you have bad preconceptions of how town/scum act and i can't change that unless you want to
I don't have preconceptions, that is insulting my play and you should stop doing it
you are insulting my play by telling me its gross for me to do/not do stuff.
your read on me is incorrect by miles for ridiculously NAI reasons and you are stubborn and refuse to acknowledge you could be wrong because you are so far in deep that you think you have to be right. "ohoho they push back so i must be right" is the most egregiously wrong way to approach the game and you should know that. thats how you hand scum free mislims on a silver platter and help them achieve wincon.
go. read. my. completed. games. and then, after that, if you still think i'm scum, I'll full claim for you. Deal?
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:56 pm
last night i targeted poison bc i was too lazy to reread and mac said they were a 3p read and i hate all 3p so i went on it LMFAO
scotty/sig still on my scumdar
I'm not following you here.
You targeted Poison. Okay.
You did so because you were too lazy to reread (reread what? This implies you've already read whatever it was).
Mac (apparently) said Poison was third party (which isn't mafia). Mac called a number of other people mafia and there's been 24 hours to see who those were.
Why did you choose Poison?
YEAH YOU ASK HIM THAT. I AM REALLY MAD RIGHT NOW. Because of his ignorance [if town] we already got a -ve side here, if mafia then damn I wanna take classes from you.
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:02 pm
its me being mad that dya was flipped when with my unique blend of reading style i found them town :3
That's wolfy tbh
oh sorry i should have rescheduled my date to not be during EoD sorry
I don't care about that, i meant is wolfy to say you TR Dya and say you are mad with such a bland tone.
i'm being nice and not toxic, do you want me to get aggressive and harsh? because yes, thats what ive been trying to do recently in my towngames especially because i have this tendency to get very *loud and rude* when i feel like people aren't listening to me/are misreeping me
no just be a bread, read the thread, and don't take shot in the dark without speculation. oh man i can't rn. if you fall off your bed tonight it's my fault.
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:56 pm
last night i targeted poison bc i was too lazy to reread and mac said they were a 3p read and i hate all 3p so i went on it LMFAO
scotty/sig still on my scumdar
I'm not following you here.
You targeted Poison. Okay.
You did so because you were too lazy to reread (reread what? This implies you've already read whatever it was).
Mac (apparently) said Poison was third party (which isn't mafia). Mac called a number of other people mafia and there's been 24 hours to see who those were.
Why did you choose Poison?
YEAH YOU ASK HIM THAT. I AM REALLY MAD RIGHT NOW. Because of his ignorance [if town] we already got a -ve side here, if mafia then damn I wanna take classes from you.
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:02 pm
its me being mad that dya was flipped when with my unique blend of reading style i found them town :3
That's wolfy tbh
oh sorry i should have rescheduled my date to not be during EoD sorry
I don't care about that, i meant is wolfy to say you TR Dya and say you are mad with such a bland tone.
i'm being nice and not toxic, do you want me to get aggressive and harsh? because yes, thats what ive been trying to do recently in my towngames especially because i have this tendency to get very *loud and rude* when i feel like people aren't listening to me/are misreeping me
no just be a bread, read the thread, and don't take shot in the dark without speculation. oh man i can't rn. if you fall off your bed tonight it's my fault.
Michelle: Had good paranoia about Mac before the IC. Seems to be actively sorting players. Her wolf game is more distant from the thread, IIRC.
Ted: Quite comfortable with having them higher than null for now.
Rondo: The way they're contradicting IC!Mac stands out in a way I'd say is villagery.
Scotty: Saying they won't vote me while insisting I answer their question of telling a story seems too surface-level that I don't see a wolf doing.
Poison: Asked me an irrelevant question, no sorting me out from there. Though, the ISO looks like a lot of that.
Ender: I haven't noticed anything sus from them so far, but haven't really read their posts. But the votes on him could mean there's something I'm not seeing?
Radishes: Wagon "something something" means? The readslist posted also didn't look serious. Lots of fluff IMO.
Tutuu: While I want to say villagery, seems like those who know her better say it's not reliable. Mostly null, but in lower tier to help myself remember.
Syn: Their posts seem lacking in content entirely. No idea TBH. But kinda a policy for me, since I never could read him in that one game we were in before.
These helps.
I dont think i have asked you irrelevant thing tho, mentioned popcorn because that's where I know you from. And the question was made so that you provide some quick rvs like kill target. I don't think it's irrelevant. No response rather answers from you though felt good because I feel like scum would have pointed it out and then chosen targets to answer me as well. I didn't resolve you after that because for a lot of the game I haven't seen you around at the same time as me and forgot about your presence maybe.
What did you like in my iso specifically?
Didn't like anything specific in your ISO, was more referencing how your question + lack of followup is similar to the rest of your ISO. Consistently fluffy. But understandable if you wanted to reference Popcorn Mafia.
Michelle: Had good paranoia about Mac before the IC. Seems to be actively sorting players. Her wolf game is more distant from the thread, IIRC.
Ted: Quite comfortable with having them higher than null for now.
Rondo: The way they're contradicting IC!Mac stands out in a way I'd say is villagery.
Scotty: Saying they won't vote me while insisting I answer their question of telling a story seems too surface-level that I don't see a wolf doing.
Poison: Asked me an irrelevant question, no sorting me out from there. Though, the ISO looks like a lot of that.
Ender: I haven't noticed anything sus from them so far, but haven't really read their posts. But the votes on him could mean there's something I'm not seeing?
Radishes: Wagon "something something" means? The readslist posted also didn't look serious. Lots of fluff IMO.
Tutuu: While I want to say villagery, seems like those who know her better say it's not reliable. Mostly null, but in lower tier to help myself remember.
Syn: Their posts seem lacking in content entirely. No idea TBH. But kinda a policy for me, since I never could read him in that one game we were in before.
These helps.
I dont think i have asked you irrelevant thing tho, mentioned popcorn because that's where I know you from. And the question was made so that you provide some quick rvs like kill target. I don't think it's irrelevant. No response rather answers from you though felt good because I feel like scum would have pointed it out and then chosen targets to answer me as well. I didn't resolve you after that because for a lot of the game I haven't seen you around at the same time as me and forgot about your presence maybe.
What did you like in my iso specifically?
Didn't like anything specific in your ISO, was more referencing how your question + lack of followup is similar to the rest of your ISO. Consistently fluffy. But understandable if you wanted to reference Popcorn Mafia.
I need a break caught up till 56th page. I have a question for tutuu, @tutuu you have been scum reading me for quite some time but I have failed to see any of your proposed cases against me, apart from "Poison is always 3p" you have mostly just went about saying is scum or just had me in your list with a generalised line for all your scums. A list where falcon, nanook poison have been kept in the scum list under the same statement even though all our approaches were different this game. [I don't even think I have seen falcon's posts lmao] Which is kinda concerning. You haven't even provided any proper cases against falcon or nanook either iirc.
Would really appreciate it if you elaborate your scum list reads and point out what made you reach that conclusion. I'm ready to answer all your concerns about me, if you plan to read me at all that is.
Michelle: Had good paranoia about Mac before the IC. Seems to be actively sorting players. Her wolf game is more distant from the thread, IIRC.
Ted: Quite comfortable with having them higher than null for now.
Rondo: The way they're contradicting IC!Mac stands out in a way I'd say is villagery.
Scotty: Saying they won't vote me while insisting I answer their question of telling a story seems too surface-level that I don't see a wolf doing.
Poison: Asked me an irrelevant question, no sorting me out from there. Though, the ISO looks like a lot of that.
Ender: I haven't noticed anything sus from them so far, but haven't really read their posts. But the votes on him could mean there's something I'm not seeing?
Radishes: Wagon "something something" means? The readslist posted also didn't look serious. Lots of fluff IMO.
Tutuu: While I want to say villagery, seems like those who know her better say it's not reliable. Mostly null, but in lower tier to help myself remember.
Syn: Their posts seem lacking in content entirely. No idea TBH. But kinda a policy for me, since I never could read him in that one game we were in before.
These helps.
I dont think i have asked you irrelevant thing tho, mentioned popcorn because that's where I know you from. And the question was made so that you provide some quick rvs like kill target. I don't think it's irrelevant. No response rather answers from you though felt good because I feel like scum would have pointed it out and then chosen targets to answer me as well. I didn't resolve you after that because for a lot of the game I haven't seen you around at the same time as me and forgot about your presence maybe.
What did you like in my iso specifically?
Didn't like anything specific in your ISO, was more referencing how your question + lack of followup is similar to the rest of your ISO. Consistently fluffy. But understandable if you wanted to reference Popcorn Mafia.
What do you think of the list now?
I'll talk about your list when I post my list and mention you. I need a break right now
Michelle: Had good paranoia about Mac before the IC. Seems to be actively sorting players. Her wolf game is more distant from the thread, IIRC.
Ted: Quite comfortable with having them higher than null for now.
Rondo: The way they're contradicting IC!Mac stands out in a way I'd say is villagery.
Scotty: Saying they won't vote me while insisting I answer their question of telling a story seems too surface-level that I don't see a wolf doing.
Poison: Asked me an irrelevant question, no sorting me out from there. Though, the ISO looks like a lot of that.
Ender: I haven't noticed anything sus from them so far, but haven't really read their posts. But the votes on him could mean there's something I'm not seeing?
Radishes: Wagon "something something" means? The readslist posted also didn't look serious. Lots of fluff IMO.
Tutuu: While I want to say villagery, seems like those who know her better say it's not reliable. Mostly null, but in lower tier to help myself remember.
Syn: Their posts seem lacking in content entirely. No idea TBH. But kinda a policy for me, since I never could read him in that one game we were in before.
These helps.
I dont think i have asked you irrelevant thing tho, mentioned popcorn because that's where I know you from. And the question was made so that you provide some quick rvs like kill target. I don't think it's irrelevant. No response rather answers from you though felt good because I feel like scum would have pointed it out and then chosen targets to answer me as well. I didn't resolve you after that because for a lot of the game I haven't seen you around at the same time as me and forgot about your presence maybe.
What did you like in my iso specifically?
Didn't like anything specific in your ISO, was more referencing how your question + lack of followup is similar to the rest of your ISO. Consistently fluffy. But understandable if you wanted to reference Popcorn Mafia.
What do you think of the list now?
did you read my ISO? Whats your thoughts?
I did try to read it, but there's a lot. I don't recall much when checking it on D1, other than the vote counts you spoilered. One thing I do remember is what I've addressed, where you were insistently refusing to agree with Mac. Going against the grain play. Probably should read ISOs again, later.
Michelle: Had good paranoia about Mac before the IC. Seems to be actively sorting players. Her wolf game is more distant from the thread, IIRC.
Ted: Quite comfortable with having them higher than null for now.
Rondo: The way they're contradicting IC!Mac stands out in a way I'd say is villagery.
Scotty: Saying they won't vote me while insisting I answer their question of telling a story seems too surface-level that I don't see a wolf doing.
Poison: Asked me an irrelevant question, no sorting me out from there. Though, the ISO looks like a lot of that.
Ender: I haven't noticed anything sus from them so far, but haven't really read their posts. But the votes on him could mean there's something I'm not seeing?
Radishes: Wagon "something something" means? The readslist posted also didn't look serious. Lots of fluff IMO.
Tutuu: While I want to say villagery, seems like those who know her better say it's not reliable. Mostly null, but in lower tier to help myself remember.
Syn: Their posts seem lacking in content entirely. No idea TBH. But kinda a policy for me, since I never could read him in that one game we were in before.
These helps.
I dont think i have asked you irrelevant thing tho, mentioned popcorn because that's where I know you from. And the question was made so that you provide some quick rvs like kill target. I don't think it's irrelevant. No response rather answers from you though felt good because I feel like scum would have pointed it out and then chosen targets to answer me as well. I didn't resolve you after that because for a lot of the game I haven't seen you around at the same time as me and forgot about your presence maybe.
What did you like in my iso specifically?
Didn't like anything specific in your ISO, was more referencing how your question + lack of followup is similar to the rest of your ISO. Consistently fluffy. But understandable if you wanted to reference Popcorn Mafia.
What do you think of the list now?
I'll talk about your list when I post my list and mention you. I need a break right now
Michelle: Had good paranoia about Mac before the IC. Seems to be actively sorting players. Her wolf game is more distant from the thread, IIRC.
Ted: Quite comfortable with having them higher than null for now.
Rondo: The way they're contradicting IC!Mac stands out in a way I'd say is villagery.
Scotty: Saying they won't vote me while insisting I answer their question of telling a story seems too surface-level that I don't see a wolf doing.
Poison: Asked me an irrelevant question, no sorting me out from there. Though, the ISO looks like a lot of that.
Ender: I haven't noticed anything sus from them so far, but haven't really read their posts. But the votes on him could mean there's something I'm not seeing?
Radishes: Wagon "something something" means? The readslist posted also didn't look serious. Lots of fluff IMO.
Tutuu: While I want to say villagery, seems like those who know her better say it's not reliable. Mostly null, but in lower tier to help myself remember.
Syn: Their posts seem lacking in content entirely. No idea TBH. But kinda a policy for me, since I never could read him in that one game we were in before.
These helps.
I dont think i have asked you irrelevant thing tho, mentioned popcorn because that's where I know you from. And the question was made so that you provide some quick rvs like kill target. I don't think it's irrelevant. No response rather answers from you though felt good because I feel like scum would have pointed it out and then chosen targets to answer me as well. I didn't resolve you after that because for a lot of the game I haven't seen you around at the same time as me and forgot about your presence maybe.
What did you like in my iso specifically?
Didn't like anything specific in your ISO, was more referencing how your question + lack of followup is similar to the rest of your ISO. Consistently fluffy. But understandable if you wanted to reference Popcorn Mafia.
What do you think of the list now?
did you read my ISO? Whats your thoughts?
I did try to read it, but there's a lot. I don't recall much when checking it on D1, other than the vote counts you spoilered. One thing I do remember is what I've addressed, where you were insistently refusing to agree with Mac. Going against the grain play. Probably should read ISOs again, later.
I have to admit the part about me incessantly going against the grain made me smile
I like Poison's reaction at Koba claiming they targeted her
I don't think scum Poison would be so strongly against this unknown action.
Btw Koba said the action its not RB iirc, you were RBed @Poison chan?
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:34 pm
if the case on me is so compelling however, write one up. it should be sooo easy since "all my posts are wolfy" according to you @Michelle
I eagerly await tearing it down.
Wolfy post
i beg to differ, their other posts are more wolfy than this imo. this is pretty NAI
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:30 pm
I'm someone you *need* to have experience with town!me to understand that premises on reading me are grossly incorrect if you are default scumreading me.
I am also a person who feeds into the ego of having to fight off any scumread on me so yeah.
Why am I scum holistically? Let me dissect it that way, Michelle.
Holistically you are scum because you share TMI reads, you had a very low impact day 1 and now you play overexplaining things about your play instead trying to solve
I don't want for you to be scum, that's a shade and i don't accept it. I provided serious arguments and of course you would not say i am right, isn't it?
I think you'll find those same kind of "TMI" reads in the towngames i linked.
In short - I am at least decent at this game and have found I can townhunt pretty well.
Did you consider that angle or am I just stupid in your eyes?
i dislike how you are fixated on making others read you by meta alone. People have copied their town meta before and changed their scum meta as well, i don't think that sort of defend would keep you safe though, not for long imo.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:03 pm
I kinda wanted to see how long I could go with the gimmick and retain the ability to get some amount of thoughts across, id say it worked reasonably well and the people paying attention/trying to were mostly able to accurately interpret it.
I'm dropping it now just because I cannot emphasize enough how epi is not townie and should not be townread
What gimmick?
Posting geralt style, just using various forms of hm/mm/fuck/no
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 2:26 am
I like Poison's reaction at Koba claiming they targeted her
I don't think scum Poison would be so strongly against this unknown action.
Btw Koba said the action its not RB iirc, you were RBed @Poison chan?
i can not tell for sure but things didn't go as per my expectations. And that made some visible consequences to me. Wouldn't like to talk about it openly yet. but i have my doubts on Koba as anti-town , but no confirmation, only assumption so far. Might just be biased as well.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:03 pm
I kinda wanted to see how long I could go with the gimmick and retain the ability to get some amount of thoughts across, id say it worked reasonably well and the people paying attention/trying to were mostly able to accurately interpret it.
I'm dropping it now just because I cannot emphasize enough how epi is not townie and should not be townread
What gimmick?
Posting geralt style, just using various forms of hm/mm/fuck/no
