Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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Okay I'm lost.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:04 pm1) Mac thinks he’s getting killed night 1, he made sure of it. He used the power that night. How do we know? Largely we don’t, but it’s agreed that that makes more sense. It’s quite possible that Epi targeted him with an additional kill that night and failed, or just tried to block him. Epi also needs a reason to lie about his night 1 action. Maybe it’s so he can get counterclaimed by his teammate to secure an easy win, maybe it’s because he had more nefarious purposes. If Mac didn’t use the power it’s agreed he got very paranoid night 2 after being in BTSC with Ted for a day, which is almost confirmed. Then scum would have had to get lucky enough to target him with a pirate ship kill — and on current proportions it’s unlikely they have more than one— and he would have had to turned on someone in his towncore for no real reason.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:59 pmWhy?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:54 pmYes and I maintain this didn’t happen.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:53 pmbut if mac was killed on a night that he also killed then we know at least one mafia member must have a ship.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:49 pmI’ve hinted to it. It’s underwhelming. As to your previous question, I’ll point out that Mac had a Vig shot that could only hit people with pirate ships, something which is currently looking to be very limited (and thus far solely town).JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:45 pmAt this point I think you're going to need to expand.
trust me i did too much research into this.
I do have a copspeedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:11 pm Tony seems a pretty obvious lynch tbh. If we don't we're boned.
linki: he told me he had a cop.
Sorry I'm quite behind.
shouldn't you be dead then?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:09 pm Chances are then Speed is Desmond and also scum, correct?
Ooh cool idea: Desmond has the alternate power (can kill lucy on even nights) but then it’s only a cool mechanic if both are town and then someone just ends up dead
ts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:40 pmThat should not be a real thought. A vigshot is simply a public cop check. It is always beneficial to use it if one is given to you (and funnygurl is right in her post, that night 1 seems more optimal to use it than night 2, if macdougall was indeed given the option).
Killing people isn't a cop.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:12 pmI do have a copspeedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:11 pm Tony seems a pretty obvious lynch tbh. If we don't we're boned.
linki: he told me he had a cop.
Sorry I'm quite behind.
...is that all you meant about him being a liarspeedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:11 pm Tony seems a pretty obvious lynch tbh. If we don't we're boned.
linki: he told me he had a cop.
Sorry I'm quite behind.
Epignosis already told us he is a mafioso.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:11 pm Tony seems a pretty obvious lynch tbh. If we don't we're boned.
linki: he told me he had a cop.
Sorry I'm quite behind.
watTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:09 pm Chances are then Speed is Desmond and also scum, correct?
Ooh cool idea: Desmond has the alternate power (can kill lucy on even nights) but then it’s only a cool mechanic if both are town and then someone just ends up dead
That's asinine. A vig is a vig, a cop is a cop. Don't 'certain point of view' me.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:12 pmts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:40 pmThat should not be a real thought. A vigshot is simply a public cop check. It is always beneficial to use it if one is given to you (and funnygurl is right in her post, that night 1 seems more optimal to use it than night 2, if macdougall was indeed given the option).
whatTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:12 pmts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:40 pmThat should not be a real thought. A vigshot is simply a public cop check. It is always beneficial to use it if one is given to you (and funnygurl is right in her post, that night 1 seems more optimal to use it than night 2, if macdougall was indeed given the option).
I STRONGLY disagree with that reductive definition for reasons that should be clear in this situation.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:12 pmts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:40 pmThat should not be a real thought. A vigshot is simply a public cop check. It is always beneficial to use it if one is given to you (and funnygurl is right in her post, that night 1 seems more optimal to use it than night 2, if macdougall was indeed given the option).
Yeah, but if we jump to the wrong conclusion about him and he's town, lynching him will also cost the game. We can't be too careful about this.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:14 pm I'm not counter-claiming, I'm calling Tony a liar based on his own posts.
Letting scum with a free extra kill live right now will cost the game.
In response to the people who posted in between when I started writing and when I hit submitts account wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:15 pm What does linki: mean, by the way? I have seen it a lot and I can not imagine what it could represent.
So will lynching a civilian.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:14 pm I'm not counter-claiming, I'm calling Tony a liar based on his own posts.
Letting scum with a free extra kill live right now will cost the game.
It's a silly term for when new posts pop up while you're writing your post and you are reacting to those posts in the preview function. The original term was "linkitis" and it was named after a user on Lostpedia named Link.ts account wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:15 pm What does linki: mean, by the way? I have seen it a lot and I can not imagine what it could represent.
when i was 13 i was watching "what what in the butt" in my room. my dad walked in and thought i was watching porn then. i had to explain to him it was a funny music video, but i don't know if he ever believed meTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:14 pm I need to make longer posts the short ones cause too many whats
did you know that not contracting words when making a statement is a tell that you're lyingTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:17 pmI am not.
I encourage you to find a plausible world where I’m scum.
In that one episode of B99 it’s the opposite, isn’t itFunnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:19 pmdid you know that not contracting words when making a statement is a tell that you're lyingTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:17 pmI am not.
I encourage you to find a plausible world where I’m scum.
What if it's a trap that you fell right into in displaying your eagerness to find any reason to lynch someone other than Epi? Maybe this is your dream opportunity to mislynch and win.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:18 pm I was specifically wary of claiming rolenames because I thought it might give mafia power.
Tony lied and said he'd get a cop out of it. I figured that's fine. And hey, my role shouldn't be linked to his.
Now he can just kill a particular name, only on odd nights? How is that a town-role? How does it make sense? And why would he reveal that at this point?
Forgive me if these have already been answered, but holy crap I thought today would be simple.
Didn’t you already claim someone else
Oh. Yep. They'd win either way. Therefore there is no reason for us to lynch anyone other than Epignosis.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:20 pm Guys if the mafia team had some super secret kill that they could just win with after this lynch, then there's no reason for the present drama to even exist.
They let us lynch literally whoever, their teammate or otherwise, and then use that kill to win. This is silly.
i mean this is good info 'cause this is just way too much for tsp / speed to be partners. unless this is another thing y'all do on this forumJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:18 pm speedchuck screaming in here with LIAR and voting for Not Epignosis stinks something awful
I did.
Yeah, that's plausible.ts account wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:21 pm Here is what I think.
Tony is mafia, and their kill is not tied to killing Raymond, but will kill somebody if they are Raymond. This is possibly mafia's only out to not be chain lynched, and so Tony made a last ditch effort to find Raymond to win tonight. Is this plausible?
That sounds like something I would do... on D1 or D2. Not in LYLO.nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:20 pmWhat if it's a trap that you fell right into in displaying your eagerness to find any reason to lynch someone other than Epi? Maybe this is your dream opportunity to mislynch and win.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:18 pm I was specifically wary of claiming rolenames because I thought it might give mafia power.
Tony lied and said he'd get a cop out of it. I figured that's fine. And hey, my role shouldn't be linked to his.
Now he can just kill a particular name, only on odd nights? How is that a town-role? How does it make sense? And why would he reveal that at this point?
Forgive me if these have already been answered, but holy crap I thought today would be simple.
LyLo is the only time it makes sense goofballspeedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:24 pm That sounds like something I would do... on D1 or D2. Not in LYLO.
Uh, my point is that it's lylo though.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:24 pmThat sounds like something I would do... on D1 or D2. Not in LYLO.nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:20 pmWhat if it's a trap that you fell right into in displaying your eagerness to find any reason to lynch someone other than Epi? Maybe this is your dream opportunity to mislynch and win.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:18 pm I was specifically wary of claiming rolenames because I thought it might give mafia power.
Tony lied and said he'd get a cop out of it. I figured that's fine. And hey, my role shouldn't be linked to his.
Now he can just kill a particular name, only on odd nights? How is that a town-role? How does it make sense? And why would he reveal that at this point?
Forgive me if these have already been answered, but holy crap I thought today would be simple.
I don't fake traps in LYLO. It's not a good time to start causing a ruckus if you're town.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:24 pmLyLo is the only time it makes sense goofballspeedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:24 pm That sounds like something I would do... on D1 or D2. Not in LYLO.
I...what? Did you read my post?speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:25 pmI don't fake traps in LYLO. It's not a good time to start causing a ruckus if you're town.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:24 pmLyLo is the only time it makes sense goofballspeedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:24 pm That sounds like something I would do... on D1 or D2. Not in LYLO.
Wow, thank you for saying that out loud. I don't use any of these terms, and almost always find them to be a) terrible, or b) playing Mafia at a different level than I play, which is intimidating.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:58 pm Wagonomics is terrible.
Equity is terrible.
EV is terrible.
Sticking an exclamation mark into a two-word phrase to indicate a hypothetical e.g. scum!JJJ is terrible.
"____ is always mafia here" is terrible.
WIM is terrible.
Lingo is terrible.