The Syndicate

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 4:02 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:58 pm Without actually going back and watching the episode or using a wiki, my location does appear to be related to my character. Weird that Pxy would say it's random. #weird

I'm saying the exact opposite and I'm accusing Chihiro of being a wolf for seeming to not know that locations are linked to monsters, because reading a town role pm would make it obvious that they are.

I mean I just dislike reading into role pms, win conditions, etc etc its a scummy way to play mafia.

Why my games all have win conditions stated in OP as well as both town and mafia sample role pms.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:55 pm Yeah, I think every location probably goes with a monster. 18 players = 18 monsters (some of which are safeclaims). Assuming there are in fact safeclaims, the mafia knows which locations do fuck all to help the town so it is in our best interest to claim where we are voting and vote as a block.

That is, if we all vote randomly, most locations get 0-3 votes. Wolves could have up to 5 players (4 is a better number, probably, but theme) so we expect them to put down 4-5 votes in a shit location and we get the shit location. If we all agree to vote for the same place, it's at least the place we pick and mafia doesn't have control. I'll take coin flip over a wolves' choice.

Or I'm just wrong about my setup guesses and it doesn't particularly matter.

oh I just realized that I assumed that scum would be the Mystery gang, as in scum are not monsters (although I assume safeclaim means they are given something to claim as part of their scum role to help blend in?)

Ex: Fred, Daphne, Velma, Shaggy would be my expected scum roles

no scooby, and then scrappy makes sense as the 3p

so like.....13 monsters -> 13 monster-benefiting locations?

Did I kill the thread?

idk what xylo means, isn't that an instrument?

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 4:09 pm idk what xylo means, isn't that an instrument?

Xylo is a term that alot of mafia players coined as refering to both mylo/lylo in one acronym

Chihiro wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 4:03 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 4:02 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:58 pm Without actually going back and watching the episode or using a wiki, my location does appear to be related to my character. Weird that Pxy would say it's random. #weird

I'm saying the exact opposite and I'm accusing Chihiro of being a wolf for seeming to not know that locations are linked to monsters, because reading a town role pm would make it obvious that they are.

I mean I just dislike reading into role pms, win conditions, etc etc its a scummy way to play mafia.

Why my games all have win conditions stated in OP as well as both town and mafia sample role pms.

Reasonable. I'm a big mech enjoyer.

But to me, it just sounds like you didn't really read your town pm at all, or didn't pay close attention to the fakeclaim in your scum pm. Currently I'm inclined to believe the latter because you've only added more information that could be dispel my suspicion of you....after I mention such information. And now we're at the limit of what we can safely talk about.

So I find you sus.

Chihiro wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 4:12 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 4:09 pm idk what xylo means, isn't that an instrument?

Xylo is a term that alot of mafia players coined as refering to both mylo/lylo in one acronym

ty

I mean, I know my role, my flavor, and my location thats about it lol

I didn't care to read anything else.

Sure be a mechanical player, but I'm not fond of anyone trying to read into peoples role pms/flavor. If this conversation keeps dragging on ill get annoyed, because i've had to yell at people in private in my games a few times for doing exactly that.

It's like i said though im sure every flavor is linked directly to a location they played a part in.

So doubt it has anything to do with alignment, because if the evil are the mystery gang they literally have to have fake claims or the game can be broken if we force a mass claim.

Chihiro wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 4:17 pm It's like i said though im sure every flavor is linked directly to a location they played a part in.

So doubt it has anything to do with alignment, because if the evil are the mystery gang they literally have to have fake claims or the game can be broken if we force a mass claim.

Okay, this will be my last post about this topic between us, and I'll go back to pushing for everyone to vote Airfield in order to make Roxy happy. Although if you're switching off Airfield....lmao.

Did I misunderstand when you posted this, then?

Chihiro wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:53 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:53 pm If you make the assumption that locations are not randomly assigned to each monster, then you are wrong.

cool do u have information that states this with certainty?

To me, this meant that you did not think that locations were linked to monsters. Did I interpret this wrong?

Because it seems like it takes Jack doing the town thinking for you, for you to realize what I'm saying:

Chihiro wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:56 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:55 pm Yeah, I think every location probably goes with a monster. 18 players = 18 monsters (some of which are safeclaims). Assuming there are in fact safeclaims, the mafia knows which locations do fuck all to help the town so it is in our best interest to claim where we are voting and vote as a block.

That is, if we all vote randomly, most locations get 0-3 votes. Wolves could have up to 5 players (4 is a better number, probably, but theme) so we expect them to put down 4-5 votes in a shit location and we get the shit location. If we all agree to vote for the same place, it's at least the place we pick and mafia doesn't have control. I'll take coin flip over a wolves' choice.

Ngl I didn't look at this way, I also had no idea there were exactly 18 locations, ooops.

I am still on Airfield but ill change, its not corelated with my role at all.

And then suddenly you're certain that roles and flavor are linked:

Chihiro wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 4:00 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:58 pm Without actually going back and watching the episode or using a wiki, my location does appear to be related to my character. Weird that Pxy would say it's random. #weird

pretty damn sure flavor location is directly linked to that flavor.

I find your progression on this sus.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 4:08 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:55 pm Yeah, I think every location probably goes with a monster. 18 players = 18 monsters (some of which are safeclaims). Assuming there are in fact safeclaims, the mafia knows which locations do fuck all to help the town so it is in our best interest to claim where we are voting and vote as a block.

That is, if we all vote randomly, most locations get 0-3 votes. Wolves could have up to 5 players (4 is a better number, probably, but theme) so we expect them to put down 4-5 votes in a shit location and we get the shit location. If we all agree to vote for the same place, it's at least the place we pick and mafia doesn't have control. I'll take coin flip over a wolves' choice.

Or I'm just wrong about my setup guesses and it doesn't particularly matter.

oh I just realized that I assumed that scum would be the Mystery gang, as in scum are not monsters (although I assume safeclaim means they are given something to claim as part of their scum role to help blend in?)

Ex: Fred, Daphne, Velma, Shaggy would be my expected scum roles

no scooby, and then scrappy makes sense as the 3p

so like.....13 monsters -> 13 monster-benefiting locations?

Yeah, I'm assuming mystery gang is mafia itg.

Not sure what to do with Pxy claiming unrelated hideout when Chihiro and myself are claiming related hideout. Seems too stupid to actually catch scum Pxy this way and Pxy isn't acting scummy about it.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 4:27 pm

Chihiro wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 4:17 pm It's like i said though im sure every flavor is linked directly to a location they played a part in.

So doubt it has anything to do with alignment, because if the evil are the mystery gang they literally have to have fake claims or the game can be broken if we force a mass claim.

Okay, this will be my last post about this topic between us, and I'll go back to pushing for everyone to vote Airfield in order to make Roxy happy. Although if you're switching off Airfield....lmao.

Did I misunderstand when you posted this, then?

Chihiro wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:53 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:53 pm If you make the assumption that locations are not randomly assigned to each monster, then you are wrong.

cool do u have information that states this with certainty?

To me, this meant that you did not think that locations were linked to monsters. Did I interpret this wrong?

Because it seems like it takes Jack doing the town thinking for you, for you to realize what I'm saying:

Chihiro wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:56 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:55 pm Yeah, I think every location probably goes with a monster. 18 players = 18 monsters (some of which are safeclaims). Assuming there are in fact safeclaims, the mafia knows which locations do fuck all to help the town so it is in our best interest to claim where we are voting and vote as a block.

That is, if we all vote randomly, most locations get 0-3 votes. Wolves could have up to 5 players (4 is a better number, probably, but theme) so we expect them to put down 4-5 votes in a shit location and we get the shit location. If we all agree to vote for the same place, it's at least the place we pick and mafia doesn't have control. I'll take coin flip over a wolves' choice.

Ngl I didn't look at this way, I also had no idea there were exactly 18 locations, ooops.

I am still on Airfield but ill change, its not corelated with my role at all.

And then suddenly you're certain that roles and flavor are linked:

Chihiro wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 4:00 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:58 pm Without actually going back and watching the episode or using a wiki, my location does appear to be related to my character. Weird that Pxy would say it's random. #weird

pretty damn sure flavor location is directly linked to that flavor.

I find your progression on this sus.

ur threading on ice, i literally showed my progression when i made a post stating i just read my role pm noticing my flavor and location were related. IDC if the progression is sus that was my progression and Im town. I repeat drop the subject on role pms.

OK pyxxy prolly town

I said I would drop it at the top of my post. It's dropped.

prayin 4 jack to finish catching up and c that we r all saying the same thing which is [REDACTED BECAUSE DROPPED]

I drop things all the damn time. Mostly, shitty video games.

Still n0 eh?

Have we come to any conclusions?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 5:02 pm I drop things all the damn time. Mostly, shitty video games.

lolol

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 5:06 pm Still n0 eh?

Have we come to any conclusions?

[VOTE: wilgy] aubergine




No, nothing's been decided

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 5:24 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 5:06 pm Still n0 eh?

Have we come to any conclusions?

[VOTE: wilgy] aubergine




No, nothing's been decided

Good I sleep.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 5:06 pm Still n0 eh?

Have we come to any conclusions?

Yes.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 5:06 pm Still n0 eh?

Have we come to any conclusions?

Vote Airfield.

my random choice of airfield doesnt seem random anymore

Chihiro wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 1:00 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:57 pm Yeah no 3Ps don't help town... keeping them alive is how you lose games. Policy without fear.

Policying without putting real thought into it also loses you games

My policies exist for reasons and also no.

Chihiro wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 6:03 pm my random choice of airfield doesnt seem random anymore

It's still random for you, if it was random in the first place.

But you said you were going to move off of it? Do you still plan to?

Woops meant to add, as I keep saying, town should all vote together and it seems like Airfield is alright, y'all seem to dislike Oceanland and there's only an hour left so I'm going all in on whipping up votes for Airfield

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 6:10 pm Woops meant to add, as I keep saying, town should all vote together and it seems like Airfield is alright, y'all seem to dislike Oceanland and there's only an hour left so I'm going all in on whipping up votes for Airfield

I’m fine with this

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 6:09 pm

Chihiro wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 6:03 pm my random choice of airfield doesnt seem random anymore

It's still random for you, if it was random in the first place.

But you said you were going to move off of it? Do you still plan to?

Honestly not sure, better for us to be focused on a certian location so

Chihiro wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 6:13 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 6:09 pm

Chihiro wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 6:03 pm my random choice of airfield doesnt seem random anymore

It's still random for you, if it was random in the first place.

But you said you were going to move off of it? Do you still plan to?

Honestly not sure, better for us to be focused on a certian location so

AIRFIELD

@pyxxy I am not in charge of you or your options. I have zero thread control as this is only my sixth or seventh post.

Please stop blaming me for how you are voting, I said it made my eyebrow twitch, a minimal ping not even a suspicion. lol a lil ott reaction imo.

I have no problem with your premise I just find it funny that you think that is what this about.

I was thinking that we will be visiting every location eventually. So pushing your short list was OK it was when you pushed Oceanland more than once I got my eyebrow up, then switched it up, blamed me and went for Airfield.

Unless you happen to know every player that holds the role associated with those locations on your short list is in fact a townie then your list likely contains a mafia location or two.

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 6:44 pm @pyxxy I am not in charge of you or your options. I have zero thread control as this is only my sixth or seventh post.

Please stop blaming me for how you are voting, I said it made my eyebrow twitch, a minimal ping not even a suspicion. lol a lil ott reaction imo.

I have no problem with your premise I just find it funny that you think that is what this about.

I was thinking that we will be visiting every location eventually. So pushing your short list was OK it was when you pushed Oceanland more than once I got my eyebrow up, then switched it up, blamed me and went for Airfield.

Unless you happen to know every player that holds the role associated with those locations on your short list is in fact a townie then your list likely contains a mafia location or two.

town above

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 6:44 pm Unless you happen to know every player that holds the role associated with those locations on your short list is in fact a townie then your list likely contains a mafia location or two.

"Please stop blaming me for how you are voting"
Point taken. I just wanted you to come back to the thread and play. I misunderstood how you actually felt about Oceanland, clearly. My apologies.

But you still seem to have not read or at least not publicly considered the reasoning behind my short list and why I want town/the thread to vote together for one location.

"I was thinking that we will be visiting every location eventually."
There are 18 locations matching the 18 players in the game. We are not guaranteed to visit every location because kilo/town wins/mafia wins/scotty nukes the thread from orbit.

"Unless you happen to know every player that holds the role associated with those locations on your short list is in fact a townie then your list likely contains a mafia location or two."
$50 it doesn't have any. Shake on it? Alternatively, vote Airfield and if it's a neutral or useless location uhhhhhh idk figure out some punishment for me

The van screeched to a halt outside of an old airfield. Luckily, there weren’t any active planes around. Marcie hated flying.

The scraggly, spindly guy in the back with Marcie reeked of skunk and B.O., and if she were feeling more mean-spirited, she’d have called him names far worse than her own Hot Dog Water moniker. The guy threw back the door and ushered Marcie out.

Once in the parking lot, the large dog came out of seemingly no where and did what looked like an 18th century partnered Irish jig with the tall man in such a polished manner she’d be surprised if they hadn’t rehearsed that ad infinitum over the last 5 months.

A gorgeous red head with a compact emerged from the front with her makeup bag in tow. The bag was the size of a bowling ball and probably weighed as much. The woman cocked her hip to the side. “I love flying. Are we having a private charter?”

The bespectacled woman that initially ushered her into the van fell out of the cab, her glasses instantly scattering across the asphalt. No one bothered to help her. For some reason, that fact made Marcie pity her. Not that anyone bothered to help her back in school.

The door shut and the driver came around to stand near the red head. Too close for Marcie’s taste.
“We’re not flying. There’s been reports of a spooky ghost from outer space shrieking around here,” noted the burly man with the fabulous neck-tie. He turned to Marcie. “Okay. Marcie. We figure the creature is from outer space. We figured we could use some help.”

She frowned. “You’re joking.”

“The truth is, like, out there, dude!” Cried the guy with the green shirt.
“Reah!” Chimed in the dog.

“Look, we don’t really think it’s an alien. There’s bound to be something else going on. Something illegal,” explained the redhead.

“What…What good can I be? I’m just an ex con…Also, wait, did that dog just-“

“It takes one to know one, man!” Continued the tall gangly man. “It’s what Scooby’s always, like, saying, dude.”
The dog, to his benefit, said nothing. Then it went to a nearby luggage car and marked his spot. Maybe she just imagined it talking before.

She glanced around to see that the bespectacled woman was still crawling around in vain to find her lenses on the ground. She cringed inwardly at the situation.

“We’re gonna get to the bottom of this. I’m sure we’ll bring flying high by the end of this,” the jock with the white shirt stated, smiling.
No one laughed at the pun.
“I’m already, like, half-way there dude! Hehehehehe!” The patchy-faced sloth boy giggled. The muscular guy continued, “Ok gang, let’s split up. We’ll meet back here later. Don’t die.”

The woman on the ground finally found her glasses and rushed to follow the diverging groups as they crossed onto the airstrip. She sighed inwardly. ‘Why am I even helping them? What did I get myself into?’ she thought, as she made her way into a hangar.



It is now Day 1. You have 48 Hours to attempt to stop those meddling kids.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 2:58 pm Honestly you just seem like the type that wants to be in charge.

not for mech nonsense

Interesting that we all have different post count limits

AIRFIELD

Kinda funny that my post count limit is the highest cause I do like to talk LOL

Voting scrappy

I’m eyeing Dennis, Chihiro, and Roxy.

Pretty sure both Neon and Creature are town.

Yay for town working together even if it was in the shadows

I still find you sus tho Chihiro, sorry
[VOTE: Chihiro] aubergine

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:07 pm Yay for town working together even if it was in the shadows

I still find you sus tho Chihiro, sorry
[VOTE: Chihiro] aubergine

Thats fine, I don't care to prove myself as town to you. My only goal is to find someone that will actually flip mafia so I can bury them.

what the fuck chad and sig, how do you not realize it's just +80 to the n0 post count

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:08 pm what the fuck chad and sig, how do you not realize it's just +80 to the n0 post count

I thought it had something to do with our location but that makes more sense

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:08 pm what the fuck chad and sig, how do you not realize it's just +80 to the n0 post count

Maybe Im stupid, but what do you mean?

EX: I don't get to post 123 times during D1

I get to post up to 123 posts in total, because Scotty's number for me is my N0 post count + 80 new posts for D1

to help everyone keep track of their own post count

Scotty is being helpful and a good GM *pet pet*

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:07 pm Yay for town working together even if it was in the shadows

I still find you sus tho Chihiro, sorry
[VOTE: Chihiro] aubergine

I’ve got to reread the potential slip area. If you’re correct it’s a great D1 vote:

My biggest issue is they’re anti voting off Scrappy and want to go after mafia, but haven’t really gone after mafia just engaged on the Scrappy piece.

The same could be said for Richard

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:13 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:07 pm Yay for town working together even if it was in the shadows

I still find you sus tho Chihiro, sorry
[VOTE: Chihiro] aubergine

I’ve got to reread the potential slip area. If you’re correct it’s a great D1 vote:

My biggest issue is they’re anti voting off Scrappy and want to go after mafia, but haven’t really gone after mafia just engaged on the Scrappy piece.

The same could be said for Richard

"but haven’t really gone after mafia just engaged on the Scrappy piece"
fwiw it _was_ N0

I wouldn't support reasoning like this until at least 24 hours into D1 if not longer

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:14 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:13 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:07 pm Yay for town working together even if it was in the shadows

I still find you sus tho Chihiro, sorry
[VOTE: Chihiro] aubergine

I’ve got to reread the potential slip area. If you’re correct it’s a great D1 vote:

My biggest issue is they’re anti voting off Scrappy and want to go after mafia, but haven’t really gone after mafia just engaged on the Scrappy piece.

The same could be said for Richard

"but haven’t really gone after mafia just engaged on the Scrappy piece"
fwiw it _was_ N0

I wouldn't support reasoning like this until at least 24 hours into D1 if not longer

Fair fair.

By EOD I’d like some mafia hunting (but not at me since I’m super duper mega town and too lazy to defend myself)

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:13 pm My biggest issue is they’re anti voting off Scrappy and want to go after mafia, but haven’t really gone after mafia just engaged on the Scrappy piece.

More than likely that there is scum inside the group of people who were so adament on scrappy being the d1 elimination.

Also what slip? I explained that I hadn't fully read my role pm until someone mentioned their flavor match their location, which when i double checked realizing the same thing.