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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 6]

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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:06 pm Like fuck, now you’re scumreading me for being correct and very likely solving the game

What kind of roadrunner painted on a side of the cliff tunnel bullshit is this
even if i ignore that amy’s peek on tutuu is very likely clearing, i think she’s town on play

i don’t think wolf!tutuu would admit that she lied about her peek. i think she’d try to spin it as me being a wolf who redirected her to myself

i also find her whole play these past few phases insanely villagery

i’m pocketed if she’s a wolf. i don’t think so
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 6]

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I’m literally sitting here giving you the solve while tutu fucks around and tries to false clear themself and you’re just going “no nanook you’re too correct, no townie could be that correct, fuck you you’re mafia”

You’re like the captcha things in John mulaney’s bit, going “that solve is too correct, wouldn’t you say? No townie can make that solve!”
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 6]

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and to think i talked so much shit to u hally for not scumreading amy when u were fully correct not to

god im so cringe. ill still try my best to win. u didnt deserve anything i told u hally. wish i could go back in time and shut my stupid mouth

im not feeling the Darkest Dungeon positive breakdown (Courage, Valor etc) im feeling (Depression, Sadness) but ill still try

i have 1 post left iirc. gonna save it. decent chance i miscounted and this is my last post. who knows maybe i dont even know how to count. fully plausible
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 6]

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i actually believe town!tutuu could be so tunneled in her view of amy/me as wolves that she would fake a red peek if she didn’t get one out of fear i redirected her

i wish she had told the truth so i wouldn’t have to make a judgment call like this, but that’s what i think
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 6]

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I guess it would be fairly karmic for me to lose a crushing f3 to cause my other town won’t pay attention in a TSP game after he’s lost that way in two of mine kek


Still fucking annoying tbh
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 6]

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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:14 pm I guess it would be fairly karmic for me to lose a crushing f3 to cause my other town won’t pay attention in a TSP game after he’s lost that way in two of mine kek


Still fucking annoying tbh
nanook i just realized your solve is still mechanically impossible

if tutuu is a wolf jailkeeper and jailed me so she could kill nut amy would have gotten a result on me

amy’s peek on me failed. how could amy and i both get jailed on the same night? not possible

wolf!tutuu still mechanically ruled out

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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 6]

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Hally wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:17 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:14 pm I guess it would be fairly karmic for me to lose a crushing f3 to cause my other town won’t pay attention in a TSP game after he’s lost that way in two of mine kek


Still fucking annoying tbh
nanook i just realized your solve is still mechanically impossible

if tutuu is a wolf jailkeeper and jailed me so she could kill nut amy would have gotten a result on me

amy’s peek on me failed. how could amy and i both get jailed on the same night? not possible

wolf!tutuu still mechanically ruled out

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Look up what a jailkeeper does please
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 6]

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Inb4 you scumread me for knowing how a JK works too 🙄
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 6]

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if wolf tutuu jails me to stop my redirect and kill nut, amy gets a result on me

if wolf tutuu jails amy to stop her from peeking me, my redirect goes through and nut doesn’t die

these are mutually exclusive in a wolf!tutuu world, yet both happened

tutuu still lock clear
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 6]

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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:19 pm
Hally wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:17 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:14 pm I guess it would be fairly karmic for me to lose a crushing f3 to cause my other town won’t pay attention in a TSP game after he’s lost that way in two of mine kek


Still fucking annoying tbh
nanook i just realized your solve is still mechanically impossible

if tutuu is a wolf jailkeeper and jailed me so she could kill nut amy would have gotten a result on me

amy’s peek on me failed. how could amy and i both get jailed on the same night? not possible

wolf!tutuu still mechanically ruled out

other ideas?
Look up what a jailkeeper does please
do jailkeeps stop peeks on the jailed person from going through? that isn’t standard where i’m from. they just block the jailed person’s actions but the jailed person can still be peeked

hang on, will confirm
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 6]

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Jailkeepers stop actions on their target dude
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 6]

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Every Jk I’ve played with has worked that way AFAIK 🤷‍♀️
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 6]

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recall that this is, in fact, a light game. By my count Hally is out of posts, tutuu has one left, and nanook has seven left. please hold to this
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 6]

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my final allowed post

i brainstormed a bit and nanook can't be pure mafia jailkeeper

if he jailkept me on n5 i wouldnt have received my peek
if he jailkept hally, then hally doesnt redirect me to amy, and my peek on nanook proceeds to resole, but the result i was given was "italian"
if he jailkept amy, then i wouldnt have gotten my peek, since hally redirected me to amy
if he holstered, it doesnt explain why amy didnt receive feedback from her targetting hally

so like, maybe he could be cycling jailkeeper/roleblocker a la alison

idk. im too dumb for mafia

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tommorrow its gonna be you, the designated misyeet (me) (since i faked a red peek on town!amy and got her killed) and whoever is the last mafia

pls dont snap vote me tommorrow and like give me a chance or something

nanook if ur the town in f3 tommorrow ... can i ask u to pls give me a chance aswell and not snap vote me? even tho i played like poop

can u believe in a world where im town and did all of the atrocities i did?
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 6]

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I’ll give you a chance to convince me it’s LC, sure. I’m pretty convinced Hally is town tbh, and I’m pretty confident in my solve. So it’ll be a very uphill battle but you deserve the chance to present an argument, sure 🤷‍♀️
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 6]

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*reserved for flavor*

Hally has been killed! They were Confucius - TOWN!

Tutuu has been killed! She was Bertrand Russell - TOWN!

game's over wolves win smh

I mean

Nanook has achieved his win condition! He was Socrates of the School of Athens.

Additionally, Long Con has achieved his win condition! Well actually he didn't but he wins anyways for reasons I'll explain when I post the full post-game mod write up. He was Late Wittgenstein, Neutral Self-Aligned.

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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 6]

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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]

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Gg guys and gals

The day vig could only be used on mafia kek
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]

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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]

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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]

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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:31 pm Gg guys and gals

The day vig could only be used on mafia kek
very interesting and cool setup
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]

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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]

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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 4]

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iaafr wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:48 am maybe the sole purpose of amys role was to misclear nanook
Amy wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:50 am rabbit what the flying fuck are you doing

i understand you can't answer this question but jesus christ dude

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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]

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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:31 pm Gg guys and gals

The day vig could only be used on mafia kek
what happened the night before? i redirected tutuu to amy, so she got italian

but then amy was blocked? so no jailkeep, just a roleblocker plus day vig?

and you just blocked amy and let me redirect tutuu?
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 4]

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iaafr wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:37 pm
iaafr wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:48 am maybe the sole purpose of amys role was to misclear nanook
Amy wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:50 am rabbit what the flying fuck are you doing

i understand you can't answer this question but jesus christ dude

19/30
in my defense

apparently all the wolves peeked as Yes

there just happened to be only one left, and he just happened to be the only italian claim in the game

i apologize if anything i said towards you was overly harsh but i was sincerely baffled at how you were scumreading me for literally the entire game
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]

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i mean i had moments of doubt

and that one especially was one where i was living in a v!amy w!nanook possibility

but yeah i mean

yeah

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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]

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Hally wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:39 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:31 pm Gg guys and gals

The day vig could only be used on mafia kek
what happened the night before? i redirected tutuu to amy, so she got italian

but then amy was blocked? so no jailkeep, just a roleblocker plus day vig?

and you just blocked amy and let me redirect tutuu?
tutuu manually targeted me

so probably either you were the one JK'd, or the JK only stopped killing actions from affecting the target and nanook was bullshitting to say otherwise
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]

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(like i was imagining your role being a town role that misclears nanook for no reason)

(it was a half joke but lmfao it was actually right)
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]

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i correctly figured out amy’s peek on nanook wasn’t clearing at least and that tutuu actually was peeked clear by amy

and also that nanook Knew Too Much

but then i doubted myself after i ran out of posts and redirected tutuu to nanook instead of the other way, which is potentially what ended the game?

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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]

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Hally wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:42 pm i correctly figured out amy’s peek on nanook wasn’t clearing at least and that tutuu actually was peeked clear by amy

and also that nanook Knew Too Much

but then i doubted myself after i ran out of posts and redirected tutuu to nanook instead of the other way, which is potentially what ended the game?

idk man
nanook to LC gives you a chance.
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]

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Amy wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:41 pm
Hally wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:39 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:31 pm Gg guys and gals

The day vig could only be used on mafia kek
what happened the night before? i redirected tutuu to amy, so she got italian

but then amy was blocked? so no jailkeep, just a roleblocker plus day vig?

and you just blocked amy and let me redirect tutuu?
tutuu manually targeted me

so probably either you were the one JK'd, or the JK only stopped killing actions from affecting the target and nanook was bullshitting to say otherwise
no tutuu said she manually targeted nanook. so my redirect went through. i don’t think there was a jailkeeper. probably just a roleblocker. idk
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i really really hate buscredit roles now

im gonna instayeet the next player in one of my games who dayvigs scum and im gonna get universally roasted when theyre actually town
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Hally wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:42 pm i correctly figured out amy’s peek on nanook wasn’t clearing at least and that tutuu actually was peeked clear by amy

and also that nanook Knew Too Much

but then i doubted myself after i ran out of posts and redirected tutuu to nanook instead of the other way, which is potentially what ended the game?

idk man
had to be exactly nanook to LC and winning the 1/5 die roll

cause tsp's a dweeb who wouldn't allow the 1-1-1 f3
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]

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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:43 pm
Hally wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:42 pm i correctly figured out amy’s peek on nanook wasn’t clearing at least and that tutuu actually was peeked clear by amy

and also that nanook Knew Too Much

but then i doubted myself after i ran out of posts and redirected tutuu to nanook instead of the other way, which is potentially what ended the game?

idk man
nanook to LC gives you a chance.
oh so even if i redirected nanook to tutuu we still lose? how? i’m confused lol
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Hally wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:39 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:31 pm Gg guys and gals

The day vig could only be used on mafia kek
what happened the night before? i redirected tutuu to amy, so she got italian

but then amy was blocked? so no jailkeep, just a roleblocker plus day vig?

and you just blocked amy and let me redirect tutuu?
I was a two shot JK, I got a third shot as compensation for the modkill
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i mean ill be blunt this setup sucked shit sorry not gonna mince my thoughts
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]

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Amy wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:45 pm
Hally wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:42 pm i correctly figured out amy’s peek on nanook wasn’t clearing at least and that tutuu actually was peeked clear by amy

and also that nanook Knew Too Much

but then i doubted myself after i ran out of posts and redirected tutuu to nanook instead of the other way, which is potentially what ended the game?

idk man
had to be exactly nanook to LC and winning the 1/5 die roll

cause tsp's a dweeb who wouldn't allow the 1-1-1 f3
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even if we won i'd think that; i guarantee it

just completely unfun to play with this much mech and postcap and maj enabled
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Get it out of your system Rabbit. That's what we're here for.
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TonyStarkPrime wrote:Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:49 pm Jean-Jacques Rousseau - TOWN:

A citizen of Geneva
Political Philosophy

You are the town tiebreaker. If there is a tied vote count at the end of the day, you will be responsible for choosing the victim of the guillotine that day.

Decisions, decisions: You may note that right now the rules say that “ties in day polls will be decided randomly”. You can change the text to whatever you wish (that fulfills the purpose of answering the question how are ties decided), but if you choose to do so you may not mention any part of your own role and you may never claim to be able to break ties. You will be given a suitable fake claim should you choose this option. Finally, if you do so, your entire role card will be revealed upon your death.
like i said if all the roles were on this tier of power, the game mightve actually been fun
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I enjoyed it 😁

The amount of mech stuff tho was uh

Pretty surprising!
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I will confess that I was consistently thankful for being dead.
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i would have enjoyed it a lot more if i were on the scumteam yes

especially if i had your role

very valid opinion
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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:45 pm
Hally wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:39 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:31 pm Gg guys and gals

The day vig could only be used on mafia kek
what happened the night before? i redirected tutuu to amy, so she got italian

but then amy was blocked? so no jailkeep, just a roleblocker plus day vig?

and you just blocked amy and let me redirect tutuu?
I was a two shot JK, I got a third shot as compensation for the modkill
but who did you target? how did tutuu peek you but get amy’s result? the reason i doubted myself and thought it could be her again was because i didn’t think it was possible she was being truthful about her result if she targeted you like she said. or that it actually cleared you to her. idk
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iaafr wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:46 pm even if we won i'd think that; i guarantee it

just completely unfun to play with this much mech and postcap and maj enabled
yeah you're definitely right on postcap / maj. That was an error. I couldn't change it midgame but it's something to keep in mind for future light games.
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Tutu peeled me and got my godfather result kek

I blocked you and that’s why Amy failed


I was serious that every JK I’ve ever played with worked that way AFAIK
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Hally wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:48 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:45 pm
Hally wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:39 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:31 pm Gg guys and gals

The day vig could only be used on mafia kek
what happened the night before? i redirected tutuu to amy, so she got italian

but then amy was blocked? so no jailkeep, just a roleblocker plus day vig?

and you just blocked amy and let me redirect tutuu?
I was a two shot JK, I got a third shot as compensation for the modkill
but who did you target? how did tutuu peek you but get amy’s result? the reason i doubted myself and thought it could be her again was because i didn’t think it was possible she was being truthful about her result if she targeted you like she said. or that it actually cleared you to her. idk
this'll be explained when I post the roles. Short answer: nanook was actually copped and had a semi-godfather role. I was glad that this didn't come up based on claims, because town had managed to confuse itself on mechanics too much already
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That said my role was really cool and fun so thanks for that TSP!
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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:50 pm Tutu peeled me and got my godfather result kek

I blocked you and that’s why Amy failed


I was serious that every JK I’ve ever played with worked that way AFAIK
jk that prevents actions from working on the target is conventionally called "alien" or "jailor"


"conventional" jk is almost always roleblock + doc specifically ime
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