The Syndicate

Roxy wrote:Alson sorry to whoever was upset after I died and said GoOld Rogues -r but honestly it was like saying Go Civvies as MR said in the very beginning that the Old Rogues were as close to civvies as possible this game. So sorry to whoevers game I ruined by posting that.

That whole civ/Old Rogue thing was what started me of on a bit of a wrong for, tbh. Not what you said, but what MR said. In my mind, people say "I'm a civ" in games all of the time, it's a standard comment, so I claimed Old Rogue thinking that they were synonymous. But I didn't realize at first just how narrow a claim that really was, and thus by the time a few OR were dead, it amounted to apseido role claim. I sport of went downhill after that.

People have surprisingly little to say in postgame for some reason.

DFaraday wrote:People have surprisingly little to say in postgame for some reason.

Some of us die fucking early.

DFaraday wrote:People have surprisingly little to say in postgame for some reason.

Did you have something to say?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

DFaraday wrote:People have surprisingly little to say in postgame for some reason.

Did you have something to say?

No, because I missed nearly the entire game. :P But usually there are several pages of comments after the game ends.

DFaraday wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

DFaraday wrote:People have surprisingly little to say in postgame for some reason.

Did you have something to say?

No, because I missed nearly the entire game. :P But usually there are several pages of comments after the game ends.

We did start postgame a little early, as in before MR put up the official post.

I think there are some things being sorted out behind the scenes. I know you missed the majority of the game, so haven't been up with what's going on. I don't know how to describe it other then a few errors were made in this game.

Hey everyone, sorry for being absent for the last couple of days or whatever. BR and I are running our food truck, the Sandwich Shack, at the Brooklyn Spring Fair this weekend, and we go from the time we get up in the morning until after midnight. I do want to talk about things a lot more, just give me until after tomorrow.

MM, I was at Granite Peak for a few days. Why do you ask? Why should I have died Night 9?

Also, what was with my death at the end? I seem to have won the game still... but that was a little disconcerting.

Long Con wrote:Hey everyone, sorry for being absent for the last couple of days or whatever. BR and I are running our food truck, the Sandwich Shack, at the Brooklyn Spring Fair this weekend, and we go from the time we get up in the morning until after midnight. I do want to talk about things a lot more, just give me until after tomorrow.

MM, I was at Granite Peak for a few days. Why do you ask? Why should I have died Night 9?

Sophie first submitted a kill on Night 9 for rabbit. Then we discussed it, and I followed up with a new target, which was you. MR told me the action was 4 minutes late so he couldn't accept it. We were a little bothered by this because things this game hadn't seemed to run on time, and so I was surprised we were going to be penalized for that late submission. I checked the times, and saw that we indeed had sent the action in at 11:42 PM EST when the night ended at 11:38 PM.

It wasn't until a few days later that I realized that wasn't true and that we had sent the action in almost 24 hours ahead of time. While the times were correct, the days were off, because we sent the action in on Tuesday, while the day ended on Wednesday.

timmer wrote:

Roxy wrote:Alson sorry to whoever was upset after I died and said GoOld Rogues -r but honestly it was like saying Go Civvies as MR said in the very beginning that the Old Rogues were as close to civvies as possible this game. So sorry to whoevers game I ruined by posting that.

That whole civ/Old Rogue thing was what started me of on a bit of a wrong for, tbh. Not what you said, but what MR said. In my mind, people say "I'm a civ" in games all of the time, it's a standard comment, so I claimed Old Rogue thinking that they were synonymous. But I didn't realize at first just how narrow a claim that really was, and thus by the time a few OR were dead, it amounted to apseido role claim. I sport of went downhill after that.

I am so sorry Timmer

Roxy wrote:

timmer wrote:

Roxy wrote:Alson sorry to whoever was upset after I died and said GoOld Rogues -r but honestly it was like saying Go Civvies as MR said in the very beginning that the Old Rogues were as close to civvies as possible this game. So sorry to whoevers game I ruined by posting that.

That whole civ/Old Rogue thing was what started me of on a bit of a wrong for, tbh. Not what you said, but what MR said. In my mind, people say "I'm a civ" in games all of the time, it's a standard comment, so I claimed Old Rogue thinking that they were synonymous. But I didn't realize at first just how narrow a claim that really was, and thus by the time a few OR were dead, it amounted to apseido role claim. I sport of went downhill after that.

I am so sorry Timmer

Hi Roxy, sorry we killed you.

We surely regretted it the most of all the things we did this game. Who would you have nightkilled next?

Oh I forgot to ask what DharmaHelpers role was. What is it DH?

Idk MM whoever seemed bad at the time? This game feels like it happened a lifetime ago for me.

Roxy wrote:Oh I forgot to ask what DharmaHelpers role was. What is it DH?

Idk MM whoever seemed bad at the time? This game feels like it happened a lifetime ago for me.

I haven't varified, but this may have been the longest-lasting game on the Syndicate ever, so I don't blame you.

DH was Captain Boomerang, but the Indy Rogues seemed to eventually align with the New Rogues in the long run, so I would consider your nightkill a success.

Roxy wrote:Oh I forgot to ask what DharmaHelpers role was. What is it DH?

Idk MM whoever seemed bad at the time? This game feels like it happened a lifetime ago for me.

Captain Boomerang. All I had to do to win was make it to the end

Sorry to you as well DH.
In all of the games I have played recently I have played very poorly. Idk that I was ever that great but lately i do feel as if i have been worse than usual. It is funny how much rl affects my game play - so much so that it is ridiculous.

Roxy wrote:Sorry to you as well DH.
In all of the games I have played recently I have played very poorly. Idk that I was ever that great but lately i do feel as if i have been worse than usual. It is funny how much rl affects my game play - so much so that it is ridiculous.

Nah its fine. Had I been alive I would have probably aligned myself with TH relatively quickly

Roxy wrote:Sorry to you as well DH.
In all of the games I have played recently I have played very poorly. Idk that I was ever that great but lately i do feel as if i have been worse than usual. It is funny how much rl affects my game play - so much so that it is ridiculous.

Epignosis was Tar Pit, so you chose wisely there.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Roxy wrote:Sorry to you as well DH.
In all of the games I have played recently I have played very poorly. Idk that I was ever that great but lately i do feel as if i have been worse than usual. It is funny how much rl affects my game play - so much so that it is ridiculous.

Epignosis was Tar Pit, so you chose wisely there.

A role that would have been outed anyway given its "power."

Roxy wrote:I was captain cold I got to kill every time an old rogue died.

splints and bf deaths gave me the 2 kills I used.

I was sad when they killed me and ended our btsc but it was good for you to get the kill. Wish I had set that fires earlier.
Congrats to the winners and good game MR

Oh, and Bass, sorry we had BR lie to you about FZ and Rabbit being New Rogues in the BTSC... we were worried that you might be Heat Wave because you seemed very sketchy about your Dr Alchemy powers and what you did with them. You said you targeted me, but I hadn't received a random power for it, so it seemed like a lie. Also, you said you got a silence from targeting me and from targeting Timmer, which made no sense to us. That mistrust was also why BR teleported away from you after saying she was going to stay at the City Center.

If you had targeted me on Night 9, it would have failed. It was Day 9 that I moved to Granite Peak to hide behind my hologram. (Unless Wally was in the very top-right of the map).

Long Con wrote:Oh, and Bass, sorry we had BR lie to you about FZ and Rabbit being New Rogues in the BTSC... we were worried that you might be Heat Wave because you seemed very sketchy about your Dr Alchemy powers and what you did with them. You said you targeted me, but I hadn't received a random power for it, so it seemed like a lie. Also, you said you got a silence from targeting me and from targeting Timmer, which made no sense to us. That mistrust was also why BR teleported away from you after saying she was going to stay at the City Center.

If you had targeted me on Night 9, it would have failed. It was Day 9 that I moved to Granite Peak to hide behind my hologram. (Unless Wally was in the very top-right of the map).

That was my bad. I used my power on TH,Timmer, and MM. When I targeted Timmer I got to see who someone targeted at night. I Used that power on you but you didnt target anyone. TH and MM both gave me the power to silence someone one. That really confused me.

Anyone who played this game and still hasn't signed up for Dom's game should seriously consider it.

DFaraday wrote:People have surprisingly little to say in postgame for some reason.

I have things to say, I was just at a big event with my food trailer since Thursday and had no time to talk. I barely got my post in before the last lynch.

This game was hard. So very hard. I checked LC night 1 and thanked my lucky stars. I checked so many people before I found Devin and would have found him earlier if the night didn't end early. I didn't see anyone on the map for most the game. We taxi cabbed him in because he was neutral and we were floundering. While we had BTSC LC made me so paranoid that Bass was lying because his story didn't add up. I had gotten a fancy cane from the museum and it stopped map BTSC in an area, teleported me, and maybe caused the crazy lynch? I was the only one that got a list of names and numbers for that lynch. That's why I assume it was the cane. I also got a car that was said to be Bass' car. I did release DF, thanks MM for pointing out he was Plunder. I was so sure it was Soneji but refused to check him. I wanted him lynched to free the kill. When he wasn't Plunder, I made my way to Iron Heights crossing my fingers that I could free him. So much more happened but I am rambling now.

LC and Devin, I am so proud of our team. I had so much fun plotting and scheming with you two. This game became our pillow talk. I mean with LC not with Devin or Devin and LC. Anyways... We totally kicked this games ass considering we lost two teammates so early and our kill was locked up in Iron Heights. With all the civ BTSC and map BTSC I was sure we had lost before we started. Everyone started trusting each other and vouching, I was sure we were screwed.

TH, I deliberately never checked you or SVS because I was paranoid one of you were the super secret role. If you weren't so bloody cozy with Timmer I would have left you alone. After I was cursed I was sure it was you but you were my enemies friend and could not be trusted. Especially after you had a kill. I did go through a period of mourning when I realized I could have taxi cabbed you into BTSC and made you a teammate. I think your lynch helped me survive though.

I was so mad at myself for serving Timmer a drink and causing him to be off the poll. That was a scary day I didn't think we'd survive.

I will think on anything else I want to say, LC is bugging me and breaking my train of thought. He is still talking while I write this.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Anyone who played this game and still hasn't signed up for Dom's game should seriously consider it.

I am so super busy I would be a bad player. I would be lynched because I was busy.

Am I wrong in thinking that Tar Pit would have been outed the minute he crossed paths with someone?

Epignosis wrote:Am I wrong in thinking that Tar Pit would have been outed the minute he crossed paths with someone?

Maybe if you kept on moving?

I am so sorry we missed a chance at being on the same team again. Bastards killed you too early. Although you would have made my list as a possible super secret role and it would have taken me a long time to check you because of that.

Black Rock wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Am I wrong in thinking that Tar Pit would have been outed the minute he crossed paths with someone?

Maybe if you kept on moving?

I am so sorry we missed a chance at being on the same team again. Bastards killed you too early. Although you would have made my list as a possible super secret role and it would have taken me a long time to check you because of that.

Someone on the same square as me couldn't move.

That would mean that, as soon as my role secret was figured out, the person who couldn't move would know I was a New Rogue.

I knew I was doomed, so I hugged the edge of the map where nothing interesting was going on.

Epignosis wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Am I wrong in thinking that Tar Pit would have been outed the minute he crossed paths with someone?

Maybe if you kept on moving?

I am so sorry we missed a chance at being on the same team again. Bastards killed you too early. Although you would have made my list as a possible super secret role and it would have taken me a long time to check you because of that.

Someone on the same square as me couldn't move.

That would mean that, as soon as my role secret was figured out, the person who couldn't move would know I was a New Rogue.

I knew I was doomed, so I hugged the edge of the map where nothing interesting was going on.

Sounds boring.

Black Rock wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Am I wrong in thinking that Tar Pit would have been outed the minute he crossed paths with someone?

Maybe if you kept on moving?

I am so sorry we missed a chance at being on the same team again. Bastards killed you too early. Although you would have made my list as a possible super secret role and it would have taken me a long time to check you because of that.

Someone on the same square as me couldn't move.

That would mean that, as soon as my role secret was figured out, the person who couldn't move would know I was a New Rogue.

I knew I was doomed, so I hugged the edge of the map where nothing interesting was going on.

Sounds boring.

Yeah.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

Long Con wrote:Oh, and Bass, sorry we had BR lie to you about FZ and Rabbit being New Rogues in the BTSC... we were worried that you might be Heat Wave because you seemed very sketchy about your Dr Alchemy powers and what you did with them. You said you targeted me, but I hadn't received a random power for it, so it seemed like a lie. Also, you said you got a silence from targeting me and from targeting Timmer, which made no sense to us. That mistrust was also why BR teleported away from you after saying she was going to stay at the City Center.

If you had targeted me on Night 9, it would have failed. It was Day 9 that I moved to Granite Peak to hide behind my hologram. (Unless Wally was in the very top-right of the map).

That was my bad. I used my power on TH,Timmer, and MM. When I targeted Timmer I got to see who someone targeted at night. I Used that power on you but you didnt target anyone. TH and MM both gave me the power to silence someone one. That really confused me.

And I never got a random power, which was another reason I didn't quite trust you. I figured you had picked me, but you still kept trying to get me lynched.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

Long Con wrote:Oh, and Bass, sorry we had BR lie to you about FZ and Rabbit being New Rogues in the BTSC... we were worried that you might be Heat Wave because you seemed very sketchy about your Dr Alchemy powers and what you did with them. You said you targeted me, but I hadn't received a random power for it, so it seemed like a lie. Also, you said you got a silence from targeting me and from targeting Timmer, which made no sense to us. That mistrust was also why BR teleported away from you after saying she was going to stay at the City Center.

If you had targeted me on Night 9, it would have failed. It was Day 9 that I moved to Granite Peak to hide behind my hologram. (Unless Wally was in the very top-right of the map).

That was my bad. I used my power on TH,Timmer, and MM. When I targeted Timmer I got to see who someone targeted at night. I Used that power on you but you didnt target anyone. TH and MM both gave me the power to silence someone one. That really confused me.

And I never got a random power, which was another reason I didn't quite trust you. I figured you had picked me, but you still kept trying to get me lynched.

Makes sense that he would go after you after getting a silencing power from you.

He made it evident that he targeted me, but I never dealt with any repercussions, so I thought he might be lying somewhere and was even claiming a role that he found out was dead.

That was my understanding of Tar Pit. Maybe it was a voluntary thing, not automatic? It doesn't read like that. We could have sent you on far-corner missions or something. I hope MR reveals all the Map locations and what they did. In detail. Like I wanna know what each statue in the Flash Museum did. I also want to know what caused the lightning storm, and why the world was Flashpoint world thereafter, and if it affected the game. And what was the item on Roxy's body that I was too scared/busy to pick up and identify?

At the Flash Museum I picked up The Rival's Speed Force Formula. It allowed me 5 extra square moves to use whenever I wished. I had only used one extra move so you could have had 4 LC.

Black Rock wrote:LC and Devin, I am so proud of our team. I had so much fun plotting and scheming with you two. This game became our pillow talk. I mean with LC not with Devin or Devin and LC. Anyways... We totally kicked this games ass considering we lost two teammates so early and our kill was locked up in Iron Heights. With all the civ BTSC and map BTSC I was sure we had lost before we started. Everyone started trusting each other and vouching, I was sure we were screwed.

I doubt anyone would have assumed it was pillow talk for the 3 of us :P
You 2 were amazing teammates!!! I could not have won without you both. I was having fun cozying up to llama in our map btsc. But gaining btsc with you 2 made the game 1,000 times more fun.
And sorry llama. I provided your location for the attack drone that LC used on you Also, we were able to buddy up to Sophie after you told me not to go after her, indirectly telling us who she was

We were definitely hanging on by the thinnest of threads at that point, BR. We were very lucky that Timmer didn't change his vote from me to cause a tie. BTW, he had me pegged as Girder It was hilarious to watch everyone (except for the person who tried to kill me) ignore him.

Interesting, who was timmer? Even with bass explaining it to us that roxy was probably captain cold, I didn't believe it and would have never checked there tbh.

I think Timmer was Mirror Master.

blindfaeth wrote:Interesting, who was timmer? Even with bass explaining it to us that roxy was probably captain cold, I didn't believe it and would have never checked there tbh.

I can't believe we lynched you!

Yeah, that was a good lynch.

Devin the Omniscient wrote:We were definitely hanging on by the thinnest of threads at that point, BR. We were very lucky that Timmer didn't change his vote from me to cause a tie. BTW, he had me pegged as Girder It was hilarious to watch everyone (except for the person who tried to kill me) ignore him.

Hahaha, oh yeah! I loved that part. After the kill failed I called you out for "parroting" people and you totally OWNED it! That was awesome. You played well, you pretty much had everyone in your corner.

Turnip Head wrote:

Devin the Omniscient wrote:We were definitely hanging on by the thinnest of threads at that point, BR. We were very lucky that Timmer didn't change his vote from me to cause a tie. BTW, he had me pegged as Girder It was hilarious to watch everyone (except for the person who tried to kill me) ignore him.

Hahaha, oh yeah! I loved that part. After the kill failed I called you out for "parroting" people and you totally OWNED it! That was awesome. You played well, you pretty much had everyone in your corner.

Thanks! I've been called out for being overly defensive in the past, so I decided to start going with the flow in those situations. It worked out perfectly this time!

Why did you lynch me and not Sofie? That wasn't nice...

FZ. wrote:Why did you lynch me and not Sofie? That wasn't nice...

We didn't want you ending the days before we could get votes on the board :P

Yes, the votes went on you early that day ("placeholders" ) to specifically make ending the day early an impossible plan. In our minds, you and MM and Sophie could have come in and talked about it and just decided to vote for me and end it to prevent any shenanigans, so we put that plan together to prevent it. Then it would have been too awkward to switch all our votes to Sophie, especially when we weren't totally outed yet.

I'm still writing my big post-game analysis, I just keep getting distracted.

Long Con wrote:Yes, the votes went on you early that day ("placeholders" ) to specifically make ending the day early an impossible plan. In our minds, you and MM and Sophie could have come in and talked about it and just decided to vote for me and end it to prevent any shenanigans, so we put that plan together to prevent it. Then it would have been too awkward to switch all our votes to Sophie, especially when we weren't totally outed yet.

I'm still writing my big post-game analysis, I just keep getting distracted.

To add to this, we couldn't know that every one would be online to switch the vote to Sophie in a timely manner.

I am missing this game right now. I was just thinking about it again. I don't always enjoy being evil as I am a civvie at heart, but this game took a lot of plotting and manipulating. I truly had such a good time with my team.

So, there's so much I want to say about the game I had. It was a very fun and interesting game, and I am proud to have played an excellent thread game, and an equally excellent map game. There are several factors in both aspects of the game that, if we didn't make the choices we did... we would not have ended up winning.

I started on square F7, four moves from Star Labs. From the outset, I decided that my map goal was to reach Star Labs. Day 1 we lynched Llama for being zany, and I was very pleased to see we took out Barry Allen, as I'm sure all the baddies were. Night 1, I was found by Blacksmith (BR), and I silenced Roxy (Captain Cold) because it wasn't something that could be traced back to me. I thought maybe Epig or Bullzeye would get the blame (sorry Epig, she killed you, maybe she suspected you of silencing her? ) I wasn't supposed to silence then, it was originally on even nights. I realized too late that a mistake had been made, and MR decided the best course of action was to simply change my role to odd nights instead. I moved north 1 square.

On Day 2, trying to play as my Civvie self, I called out Bass for his "there's one or two baddies in that voting group" post. I was honest about how it sounded to me, like it was good to say but meant little, and his lynch that day lost us Double Down but gained me cred as a genuine baddie hunter in some eyes. The funny thing is, Bass saying "cheat" in every post wasn't him self-cursing, it was something imposed upon him - I forget the details now. His "curse" was not a signal to Blacksmith as some suggested. Night 2 Roxy kills Epignosis and Plunder fails to kill. Night 2 there was the lightning storm that moved everyone, and I ended up on H8... still close to Star Labs, so my original mission to reach it still stood.

Day 3 Spacedaisy was really after me. Why, SD? Just good instincts? It didn't catch on because she had no meaty case to support the suspicion. The lynch vote was really close between SD and Aces, but no one was lynched, and the records were lost (MR, you have them?) Then the Day repeated, what was that? We lynched blindfaeth, and were very happy to see he was Golden Glider. With our limited BTSC, we wanted to limit the BTSC of others, of course. Night 3, I silenced Bass 2.0 to try and put suspicion on him, I think. I also ended up on the same square as rabbit8. We talked a bit about the game, and he said he wanted to get more involved, and planned to... but then he basically disappeared.

Day 4 I moved north one square to H6, where blindfaeth's grave was. I could see a player to the south - the unmoving rabbit. Blindfaeth had ice skates that let me move two squares at a time, and cross squares I normally couldn't, like water. We lynched Aces despite Roxy's claims, which turned out pretty good for the Detectives. Night 4, Bullzeye was double-killed by a head-basher a la rock, and a too-late second murder intender. Neither of them were Plunder, so what gives?

reywaS was replaced by MP07, whom I enjoyed debating with very much. It got me something to say in-thread a seem really involved, and then we lynched him for it on Day 5! Another BTSCer out of the way, and the baddies were happy once again. Night 5...

S~V~S wrote:

Your lynch was a sad time. I'm sorry we needed it to happen.

I was a blundering idiot ha ha. I was fairly clueless. But I really did think you were misguided, you fooled me completely. I said more than once that the things you said sounded bad, but the way you said them did not. I always thought I could pick out your bad game in the past, but not so much anymore. Nice job, you deserved to win this.