The Syndicate

OK... I didn't get the read from juliets in the slightest.

I am not surprised to have votes. I am surprised that Nova isn't one of them. Also sprityo.

Oh wait sprityo actually is voting me. That's odd given his reread had me quite high...

But still it's on form.

Does anyone have any reason to town read Nova?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:36 pm Does anyone have any reason to town read Nova?

He feels pretty townie and I have a lot of other scumreads.

He doesn't feel like anything to me and Nova is very townie when he is town.

I have no reason to town read nova.
I find it weird that people have done so.

Tbh there are too many people here who need to be solved. Not enough people wearing their townie badge.

did you know you have total control of that situation?

Sprityo... your reread had me civ and then you made up some thing about voting for voting lurkers in order to justify tossing a vote on me in the hopes it'd just run away right?

Why do you want me dead? Do you think I am a bad townie?

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:42 pm did you know you have total control of that situation?

Well of myself sure. I will give this thing a whirl.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:38 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:36 pm Does anyone have any reason to town read Nova?

He feels pretty townie and I have a lot of other scumreads.

Jack and Nova team compatible?

Just fyi Dom I'd say I am getting town reads from players who aren't at liberty to disclose why given we are an infodump free zone.

That and scum.

I guess I'm just in the dark about everything.

I don't know about nova. I've been iffy on him so far but I'm not really sure what hes like when he's bad. I think I've mostly just seen him as town but he seems a little different this time.
I am however familiar with Tony being scummy and I think tony 2.0 is bad. He's more talkative more trying to solve things and that's how he was as mafia. It was like hes a better civ whole being mafia and theres a clear change between how he was at first and now
I am putting my vote there. I'm at a concert and can't really be here for end of day. I'm sorry all.

Being thrown out the window is a metaphor for having my case ignored.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:36 pm Does anyone have any reason to town read Nova?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:39 pm He doesn't feel like anything to me and Nova is very townie when he is town.

My D1 was the towniest Nova that ever towned, so I'm calling bullshit on this

Jack I do believe you could be bad. Last time you tunneled me to this extent you were indeed bad and I was as I am now, civ. You apparently missed that I looked at Creature's other games and made a call based on his behavior in this game as compared to those. You aren't listening to anything I have to say about my Day 1 thoughts even though I posted about them on Day 1. I don't believe you are coming from a place of good.

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

Dom wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 7:32 pm Your "reads"
*Your made up assertions with zero justification.

You're getting a zero in my class for not showing your work.

I was going back Isoing Creature's post and after rereading them with the knowledge of him being town I got some new thoughts.
So it was all out fault reading Creature wrong, but that guy really dropped just gth reads under pressure and he was afraid to vote because honestly this game is hard to read.
Hard to read because of disregardation of a playstyle for example.

And Creature was probably correct in some points, even if lazy my belly feeling tells me Creature had bigger thought processes behind him and maybe just waited for people to defend him.

Maybe he really was thinking that mafia would be on his back getting him and maybe he hit a point.
Mafia should knew that it might be dangerous for Creature to get defended and maybe create a dangerous couterwagon. This really would depend on who cooperates with whom and how Creature receives help.
But all the way mafia should rather try to keep the lynch active and give Creature zero chance to defend.

That's a reason why I DISLIKE such posts as Dom has posted here. I bet there is more, I already saw some skimming through back to this scenario.

I really had a terrible day, lost my best friend, I wasn't able to do bigger ISOs as promised. And for the recent posters: I think they are fine everyone took a position I just have a weird feeling about the Dougall train being to convenient.

I will put my vote on Dom so you guys know that I take a position in this whole case, and whatever outcome we get, I feel like I atleast didn't talk BS in analysing Creature and his cases. If I had more time I would dig more into it.

[VOTE: Dom] aubergine

sabie12 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:00 pm I don't know about nova. I've been iffy on him so far but I'm not really sure what hes like when he's bad. I think I've mostly just seen him as town but he seems a little different this time.
I am however familiar with Tony being scummy and I think tony 2.0 is bad. He's more talkative more trying to solve things and that's how he was as mafia. It was like hes a better civ whole being mafia and theres a clear change between how he was at first and now
I am putting my vote there. I'm at a concert and can't really be here for end of day. I'm sorry all.

First part,

I'm town move along. Thanks.

Second part,

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:09 pm Jack I do believe you could be bad. Last time you tunneled me to this extent you were indeed bad and I was as I am now, civ. You apparently missed that I looked at Creature's other games and made a call based on his behavior in this game as compared to those. You aren't listening to anything I have to say about my Day 1 thoughts even though I posted about them on Day 1. I don't believe you are coming from a place of good.

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

Hmm I have Jack as bad on my gth. He was seemingly putting in work when he entered the game but idk it felt fake to me. Reminded me of Shockheaded Jack.

What did you get on LC?

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:09 pm Jack I do believe you could be bad. Last time you tunneled me to this extent you were indeed bad and I was as I am now, civ. You apparently missed that I looked at Creature's other games and made a call based on his behavior in this game as compared to those. You aren't listening to anything I have to say about my Day 1 thoughts even though I posted about them on Day 1. I don't believe you are coming from a place of good.

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

Show me on D2 where you decided to vote Creature.

Cause you going “vote Jack for voting me” does fuck and all to make me think you’re not a wolf.

This game was less frustrating when I wasn’t paying attention.

[mention]novaselinenever[/mention]

Do you think I could be scum with Tony?

If I can get my four townreads to each day I am scum with a different one of my townreads, I achieve my secret win condition and I am this close.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:14 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:09 pm Jack I do believe you could be bad. Last time you tunneled me to this extent you were indeed bad and I was as I am now, civ. You apparently missed that I looked at Creature's other games and made a call based on his behavior in this game as compared to those. You aren't listening to anything I have to say about my Day 1 thoughts even though I posted about them on Day 1. I don't believe you are coming from a place of good.

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

Show me on D2 where you decided to vote Creature.

Cause you going “vote Jack for voting me” does fuck and all to make me think you’re not a wolf.

Here on Day 1 is when I started suspecting Creature:
Here in Day 2 is where I said I had looked at his other games and felt like this one best looked like his baddie game. I asked him for some town games in another game I was playing with him where I was also investigating him so that piece is missing from this game.

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:24 pm Imo after looking at some of Creatures past games his behavior here does not appear to be civ so I am placing a vote there for now.

I am not concerned with what you think about me voting for you. You appear to be trying to say I voted people without reason which is just obviously not true. I don't think you could misread me that badly.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:09 pm Jack I do believe you could be bad. Last time you tunneled me to this extent you were indeed bad and I was as I am now, civ. You apparently missed that I looked at Creature's other games and made a call based on his behavior in this game as compared to those. You aren't listening to anything I have to say about my Day 1 thoughts even though I posted about them on Day 1. I don't believe you are coming from a place of good.

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

what

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:18 pm @novaselinenever

Do you think I could be scum with Tony?

To keep it real, I have no idea. Also to keep it even realer that's a weird question lol

Is there like something?

I'm missing*

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:11 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:00 pm I don't know about nova. I've been iffy on him so far but I'm not really sure what hes like when he's bad. I think I've mostly just seen him as town but he seems a little different this time.
I am however familiar with Tony being scummy and I think tony 2.0 is bad. He's more talkative more trying to solve things and that's how he was as mafia. It was like hes a better civ whole being mafia and theres a clear change between how he was at first and now
I am putting my vote there. I'm at a concert and can't really be here for end of day. I'm sorry all.

First part,

I'm town move along. Thanks.

Second part,

I believe Nova is town, because I like this post.

The suspicion of me, however, should go. I'm town as well, Nova.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:29 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:18 pm @novaselinenever

Do you think I could be scum with Tony?

To keep it real, I have no idea. Also to keep it even realer that's a weird question lol

Dom thinks I’m scum with Mac.
Mac thinks I’m scum with you.
You think I’m gth bad and am interested in Sabie’s Tony suspicions.

So I just need Tony to think I’m scum with Dom.

Or.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:32 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:29 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:18 pm @novaselinenever

Do you think I could be scum with Tony?

To keep it real, I have no idea. Also to keep it even realer that's a weird question lol

Dom thinks I’m scum with Mac.
Mac thinks I’m scum with you.
You think I’m gth bad and am interested in Sabie’s Tony suspicions.

So I just need Tony to think I’m scum with Dom.

Or.

Spoiler: show

You could help me lynch Juliets, who is a night bowler.

mk

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:24 pm Imo after looking at some of Creatures past games his behavior here does not appear to be civ so I am placing a vote there for now.

I have no idea what about Creature’s past town games doesn’t look like Creature’s game here. Cause you didn’t say. Cause you weren’t trying very hard to evaluate him. Which is exactly the reason you gave for why Tony1 should be lynched.

I don’t believe you believed Tony was scum. I don’t believe you believed Creature was scum. I don’t believe you believe my suspicion on you is unbelievable.

the worst thing juliets has done is that post where she voted jack

I'm gonna miss end of day.

Legacy civ read on TSP.

I think Nova's little burst of energy after I voted for him was ok.

I'm gonna put my vote on Juliets for self pres.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:39 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:24 pm Imo after looking at some of Creatures past games his behavior here does not appear to be civ so I am placing a vote there for now.

I have no idea what about Creature’s past town games doesn’t look like Creature’s game here. Cause you didn’t say. Cause you weren’t trying very hard to evaluate him. Which is exactly the reason you gave for why Tony1 should be lynched.

I don’t believe you believed Tony was scum. I don’t believe you believed Creature was scum. I don’t believe you believe my suspicion on you is unbelievable.

Whatever. I think you are disingenuous and you are definitely wrong about me but I'm done with you this phase.

Pretty sure this is two town wagons but meh

F it. My radar needs my trust.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:32 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:29 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:18 pm @novaselinenever

Do you think I could be scum with Tony?

To keep it real, I have no idea. Also to keep it even realer that's a weird question lol

Dom thinks I’m scum with Mac.
Mac thinks I’m scum with you.
You think I’m gth bad and am interested in Sabie’s Tony suspicions.

So I just need Tony to think I’m scum with Dom.

Or.

Spoiler: show

You could help me lynch Juliets, who is a night bowler.

Ohh that. I struggled with putting Tony as good in that GTH, I had you as bad (do I still do? no idea lol). So yeah I think it's possible.

I actually like Juliets tbqh. I'm not seeing it. I still want LC's head, and I could settle for Dom's. he's been shitting on a whole lot of things and questioning stuff people are doing without really having a plan of his own. I mean anyone for him is "do you have reason to town read X, I don't." lol.

A lot of bad faith coming from him.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:43 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:39 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:24 pm Imo after looking at some of Creatures past games his behavior here does not appear to be civ so I am placing a vote there for now.

I have no idea what about Creature’s past town games doesn’t look like Creature’s game here. Cause you didn’t say. Cause you weren’t trying very hard to evaluate him. Which is exactly the reason you gave for why Tony1 should be lynched.

I don’t believe you believed Tony was scum. I don’t believe you believed Creature was scum. I don’t believe you believe my suspicion on you is unbelievable.

Whatever. I think you are disingenuous and you are definitely wrong about me but I'm done with you this phase.

This is the first Juliets post I don't like.

LC and Mac townreading him is a big yikes from me

Tony is civ

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:51 pmTony is civ

Dom v Rej v LC

Who do you lynch?

Also gth Jack

Mac you're not currently self preserving

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:52 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:51 pmTony is civ

Dom v Rej v LC

Who do you lynch?

LC > Rej > Dom