Phenon Mafia: ENDGAME - Snuffed

#4601

I figured juliets is a top town read and Strawhenge, while a moderate read, could be a potential marker given that Fred surprisingly was not it. And on the flip side, maybe juliets is the most tinfoil marker candidate, so regardless of which one is the marker, I thought there was some chance that one of them would be marked.

Since neither of them were, I'm not sure what to do.

#4602

Sorry for the false alarm, guys. For some reason I got excited when I saw Jay and Dizzy gone because I was thinking speedchuck was the marker, but really it just means that neither juliets and Straw were targeted, which I think means it could be any of you.

#4603

That said, I don't think it's juliets. So my vote will be going to either speedchuck or Strawhenge. I don't know which though.

#4604

I knew I should have targeted Jay last night. Dammit.

#4605

Oh gosh I forgot to say rip to JJJ and Dys. Sorry guys! We miss you both!

Oh shit you guys is this what happened????? I sent in Dizzy as a target to protect last night, just in case. Does that mean my target was switched with Strawhenge so Strawhenge killed Dizzy?? Or am I misunderstanding the bus driver power?

#4606

juliets wrote:Oh gosh I forgot to say rip to JJJ and Dys. Sorry guys! We miss you both!

Oh shit you guys is this what happened????? I sent in Dizzy as a target to protect last night, just in case. Does that mean my target was switched with Strawhenge so Strawhenge killed Dizzy?? Or am I misunderstanding the bus driver power?

I targeted you and Strawhenge, so what that means is any actions targeting either of you two (NOT actions you sent in) would affect each other. So if Strawhenge was the marker and tried to mark you, it'd mark himself, and vice versa.

Apparently, that was a dumb move because Dizzy and Jay exploding means I think my power accomplished nothing.

#4607

Oh. Jesus I was all excited there for a minute.

#4608

Yeah, I goofed and got excited at first too but clearly didn't think it through.

#4609

Okay, well, that's okay. I was hoping my power would have the marker mark himself or somehow clear somebody, but I guess we can still win this despite failing to accomplish either of those.

I'm with speedchuck believing that juliets' behavior just seems overwhelmingly town and her claim doesn't seem fake either. So I think we have a 50/50 shot at least.

#4610

Wait, this is MYLO? How do we figure?

4 today, we mislynch, then it's 3. Marker marks somebody tonight, then he can blow them up the next Day, it'd be 1 v. 1. I guess the marker wins if there's a tie then.

#4611

Fuck.

#4612

With a gun to my head I'm tempted to trust speedchuck and vote Strawhenge, but I don't know. What do you think, juliets?

#4613

juliets wrote:Oh gosh I forgot to say rip to JJJ and Dys. Sorry guys! We miss you both!

Oh shit you guys is this what happened????? I sent in Dizzy as a target to protect last night, just in case. Does that mean my target was switched with Strawhenge so Strawhenge killed Dizzy?? Or am I misunderstanding the bus driver power?

Normal doctors protect at night. Unless your protection works during the day, I think your role wouldn't have helped much.

MP, I think you had the right idea with your targets. Just unlucky, I guess.
If you had redirected the mark from the townperson (either dizzy or Jay) to Straw or me (the two remaining suspects), the game would be solved either way. You chose Juliets as your townperson to switch with Straw, and it just happened that she wasn't the one that got marked.

It wasn't a bad play, though. Just luck.

#4614

MY BRAIN IS GOING CRAZY, I was not supposed to sub into this game and have to deal with an intense LYLO like this, guys. Ahhhhhhhhhhhh!

#4615

Well, speedchuck either made a risky guess or knew by checking me that I am not Bellic. I tend to believe him. That would have really been a risky guess.

Yeah speed chuck, I just protected Dys just in case even though I was pretty sure we had gotten the last mafia.

#4616

speedchuck wrote:
juliets wrote:Oh gosh I forgot to say rip to JJJ and Dys. Sorry guys! We miss you both!

Oh shit you guys is this what happened????? I sent in Dizzy as a target to protect last night, just in case. Does that mean my target was switched with Strawhenge so Strawhenge killed Dizzy?? Or am I misunderstanding the bus driver power?
Normal doctors protect at night. Unless your protection works during the day, I think your role wouldn't have helped much.

MP, I think you had the right idea with your targets. Just unlucky, I guess.
If you had redirected the mark from the townperson (either dizzy or Jay) to Straw or me (the two remaining suspects), the game would be solved either way. You chose Juliets as your townperson to switch with Straw, and it just happened that she wasn't the one that got marked. It wasn't a bad play, though. Just luck.

Well, that's good to know.

I know you indicated for you it's down to me and Strawhenge, but how do you feel about that really? And what do you make of Strawhenge's vote for you?

Is it really Strawhenge? It almost feels too easy, but I don't know.

#4617

juliets wrote:Well, speedchuck either made a risky guess or knew by checking me that I am not Bellic. I tend to believe him. That would have really been a risky guess.

Yeah speed chuck, I just protected Dys just in case even though I was pretty sure we had gotten the last mafia.

I'm a bit lost on this Bellic stuff. Can one of you ELI5?

#4618

MovingPictures07 wrote:
juliets wrote:Well, speedchuck either made a risky guess or knew by checking me that I am not Bellic. I tend to believe him. That would have really been a risky guess.

Yeah speed chuck, I just protected Dys just in case even though I was pretty sure we had gotten the last mafia.
I'm a bit lost on this Bellic stuff. Can one of you ELI5?

speedchuck why don't you explain it. You do a better job than I could.

#4619

Do we really need the extra time then if the three of us are going to vote Straw anyway? Or is one of you tricking me and it's really you?

#4620

I want to pull up Jay's marker cases again. Maybe that'll help. I can't remember how he concluded re: the three of you.

#4621

I can't seem to find one for juliets.

Strawhenge

speedchuck

#4622

MovingPictures07 wrote:Do we really need the extra time then if the three of us are going to vote Straw anyway? Or is one of you tricking me and it's really you?

Here is where speed chuck started explaining his role. I'll get the rest with the names in my next post - and I'm going to vote straw so I don't need the extra time.

speedchuck wrote:There are certain targets in the game that I can visit that are of benefit to me, and by extension town. I was given their names at game start. 3 of them. All but one has flipped already. Unfortunately, one was Marmot. The second was Nutella. You weren't the third.

I get a doublevote the day after I find one.

He was talking to Jay when he said "you weren't the third".

linki find a what for me?

#4623

Marker case that Jay made. I'm supposing he was confident you didn't fit the bill then.

#4624

You're 100% certain that it's Straw?

#4625

Sorry for my spammy all-over-the-place posts, I'm just freaking out. I don't want to make the wrong move here.

#4626

Re: The question about my strawhenge certainty: Vote Strawhenge

Re: The question about Bellic: There is a player somewhere in the game named Jeremy Bellic. I am seeking to find him as a part of my role. I am a conditional doublevoter. If I find him, I am able to doublevote. There were two others I could find, but they are dead.
Not that it matters. A doublevote at this juncture would not be a great idea.

MP, take your time. We got two days. I'm trying to post answers, and I'm being linki'd to death.

#4627

Got it, thanks.

#4628

speedchuck when did you check me?

#4629

Well, if you're both feeling that good about a Straw lynch, then I don't know if I should hold things up. I doubt I'll feel remotely at ease about any vote even after another 24 hours.

#4630

juliets wrote:speedchuck when did you check me?

Last night. Or, at least I tried to.

#4631

Wait a minute. If you targeted juliets last night, that means you got results for Strawhenge due to my busdrive.

#4632

MovingPictures07 wrote:You're 100% certain that it's Straw?

I am not 100% certain about anything.

Oh wow - so speed got straw's results.

#4633

This game.

#4634

This is fucked up.

#4635

If the marker wins, then just kudos to whoever you are.

#4636

speed chuck remind me again who you have checked.

#4637

N1: Nachomamma
N2: insertnamehere
N3: Quin
N4: Scotty
N5: JJJ
N6: Juliets -> Strawhenge

Pretty random, for the most part. I'm looking for a name, after all. Not a role. JJJ I went for mostly because I thought he'd be dead, and I wanted to check for the name first. :P

#4638

This means that Bellic must be Wilgy, right?

#4639

Reviewing speedchuck and Strawhenge's posts from earlier this morning, and Strawhenge just seems less believable to me. But I also feel he's low hanging fruit.

#4640

MovingPictures07 wrote:This means that Bellic must be Wilgy, right?

You tell me.

If it ain't you, it's Wigly.

#4641

MovingPictures07 wrote:This means that Bellic must be Wilgy, right?

No, it could be Strawhenge and speed could be not telling us the truth.

#4642

juliets wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:This means that Bellic must be Wilgy, right?
No, it could be Strawhenge and speed could be not telling us the truth.

#4643

There's no way to know though. Right?

#4644

MovingPictures07 wrote:There's no way to know though. Right?

Right.

#4645

At least not that I can see but I'm thinking about this on the fly.

#4646

I don't know what can be done though to even figure out the marker at this point. While Jay's analyses are nice, the marker may not have had discernible in-thread reasons to blow up anyone.

#4647

I'll be around off and on for the next couple of hours. I'll mull over everything. But I just am at a loss.

#4648

MovingPictures07 wrote:I don't know what can be done though to even figure out the marker at this point. While Jay's analyses are nice, the marker may not have had discernible in-thread reasons to blow up anyone.

I agree. I don't know what to use to make this decision.

#4649

juliets wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I don't know what can be done though to even figure out the marker at this point. While Jay's analyses are nice, the marker may not have had discernible in-thread reasons to blow up anyone.
I agree. I don't know what to use to make this decision.

Yeah, me neither. If this were a mafia member, it'd be a different story.

#4650

I can't believe I couldn't make better use of my power.

Sorry, guys.

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