Grasslands [Sign-Ups 13/13]

[Hally]

dizzy ur a huge cute now gimme chocolate

Spoiler: show

*modkills*

Spoiler: show

Jk *throws chocolate at*
Actually I just ate all I had but I'll fetch some more in the store rn

[Alison]

As loath as I am to ruin the unique nature of this voting system, I wonder if it might be optimal to just brute force it down to a regular voting system (since I vaguely suspect that's better for town, and certainly easy for people to play in because they're used to it) by simply coming to a town consensus with pseudo-votes etc. on who to exe, voting that person to get them into the 3P, then allowing the most trusted player (with 0 votes) to select the consensus kill and voting their kill to be verified.

[Alison]

For example, let's say Sam the Scum is the player everyone agrees on to be the exe for the day (via pseudovoting) and Tammy the Town is the player everyone agrees on to be the most trusted player for the day. Everyone is then instructed to vote themselves, except Tammy, who votes Sam. That means Tammy has 0 votes, Sam has 2 votes (Tammy and themselves), and everyone else has 1 vote through the selfvote. So the 3P is Tammy and Sam, scum sends an additional person and I don't think it matters who. Tammy writes Sam as the exe choice, and everyone else agrees to confirm Tammy's kill order.

With coordination, that would allow us to brute force a regular voting system achieved through town consensus even with the unique mechanics. There is some flexibility - for example Tammy can go rogue and kill the third person in the Grasslands if they wish - but that is okay since Tammy is trusted anyway, and the choice is public so they can't get away with openwolfing, they have to account for their actions. It could be the right choice of Sam does something in the quicktopic that makes Tammy really inclined to townread them, and shoot the third person. Also, this methodology means that Tammy, the most trusted person, is protected from the nightkill, which is good for obvious reasons.

Also I think it's correct to force players to reveal all quicktopics at the first available opportunity under threat of policy exe - I don't think there's many scenarios where town would wish to conceal information like this.

[Hally]

As loath as I am to ruin the unique nature of this voting system, I wonder if it might be optimal to just brute force it down to a regular voting system (since I vaguely suspect that's better for town, and certainly easy for people to play in because they're used to it) by simply coming to a town consensus with pseudo-votes etc. on who to exe, voting that person to get them into the 3P, then allowing the most trusted player (with 0 votes) to select the consensus kill and voting their kill to be verified.

For example, let's say Sam the Scum is the player everyone agrees on to be the exe for the day (via pseudovoting) and Tammy the Town is the player everyone agrees on to be the most trusted player for the day. Everyone is then instructed to vote themselves, except Tammy, who votes Sam. That means Tammy has 0 votes, Sam has 2 votes (Tammy and themselves), and everyone else has 1 vote through the selfvote. So the 3P is Tammy and Sam, scum sends an additional person and I don't think it matters who. Tammy writes Sam as the exe choice, and everyone else agrees to confirm Tammy's kill order.

With coordination, that would allow us to brute force a regular voting system achieved through town consensus even with the unique mechanics. There is some flexibility - for example Tammy can go rogue and kill the third person in the Grasslands if they wish - but that is okay since Tammy is trusted anyway, and the choice is public so they can't get away with openwolfing, they have to account for their actions. It could be the right choice of Sam does something in the quicktopic that makes Tammy really inclined to townread them, and shoot the third person. Also, this methodology means that Tammy, the most trusted person, is protected from the nightkill, which is good for obvious reasons.

Also I think it's correct to force players to reveal all quicktopics at the first available opportunity under threat of policy exe - I don't think there's many scenarios where town would wish to conceal information like this.

yup, this is the strategy we used last time

[Alison]

That just makes it regular voting with slightly more power given to Tammy then.

[nutella]

oh no i need to actually read and digest the rules

[Hally]

oh no i need to actually read and digest the rules

psssh who does that

[iaafr]

why are you posting about this strategy pregame

I was going to post about it as my opener in the game

I mean idk I guess it's grey area but I'm against posting about setup strategy in the signup thread right before rand

[iaafr]

actually since it's not randed yet I actually don't feel like playing this anymore is there anybody else interested who can take my spot

[iaafr]

if you can't find a replacement I guess I'll play but like I'd prefer not to atp

[Hally]

[mention]Fatmo[/mention] [mention]Poison Chan[/mention] [mention]sprityo[/mention] are you interested in playing?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Oh no an arbitrary and made up etiquette rule was broken, the game is ruined

[tutuu]

if you can't find a replacement I guess I'll play but like I'd prefer not to atp

i would love playing with you but its cool if you wanna sit out, do whats best for you

[iaafr]

Oh no an arbitrary and made up etiquette rule was broken, the game is ruined

i was already leaning towards not feeling this game

but this response helps reinforce my desire to not play

[tutuu]

[Hally]

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

[Carotenoid]

/in, tutuu made me sign up

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Oh no, someone commenting on the arbitrariness and meaninglessness of my unwritten etiquette rules, better /out and be snide about it

[Hally]

/in, tutuu made me sign up

\o/

[tutuu]

Oh no, someone commenting on the arbitrariness and meaninglessness of my unwritten etiquette rules, better /out and be snide about it

chill, dude, why are u needling him further? he already /outed and he said he was already not feeling happy for unrelated reasons, let it go

[iaafr]

Oh no, someone commenting on the arbitrariness and meaninglessness of my unwritten etiquette rules, better /out and be snide about it

i feel like you're being unnecessarily aggressive; i didnt spell out my full reasoning for wanting to out, you just assumed it was the etiquette thing alone when it really wasn't

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Yeah how dare I assume that you saying you don’t like something immediately before saying you’re /outing is connected

Really dumb of me tbh

[iaafr]

you alright dude? getting enough sleep? you sure youre not hungry?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Yeah man life is actually really good rn

[nutella]

hey guys come watch the podcast instead k

[nutella]

this has been an official moderator order

[iaafr]

thats good; sorry for annoying you so much

[Alison]

Not sure what the issue is with explaining strategy prerand. You aren't going to be able to read me based on whether or not I explain strategy. If you're town you should be happy that someone who you know doesn't have a scum role card (because it's prerand) is explaining what they think is the best strategy to help town out. And if you're scum then you don't really have reason to be that unhappy because like, were you really counting on town not finding that strategy anyway?

[Dyslexicon]

I would actually prefer it if we didn't talk strategy in the sign up thread. I can't say that it's not allowed, I just feel it's better to let everything take place in the actual game. ^^

[Dyslexicon]

I will rand and send out roles either tonight or when I wake up tomorrow morning. Counting on us being able to get this up and running Monday evening!

Also, I will be starting the game with D1, not a D0, cause that is weird and I'm the boss. =p

[Hally]

we love you boss

[staypositivefriend]

hype!

[Hally]

h y p e

[tutuu]

whatever you say boss we arent in a position to protest considering your angelic hair taken straight from the heavens!

[Dyslexicon]

[mention]Fatmo[/mention] [mention]Poison Chan[/mention] [mention]sprityo[/mention]

Would any of you be willing to replace in?
The game has just started. =)

[Poison]

@Fatmo @Poison Chan @sprityo

Would any of you be willing to replace in?
The game has just started. =)

Sorry I'll pass already playing 3 games atm.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@Fatmo @Poison Chan @sprityo

Would any of you be willing to replace in?
The game has just started. =)

I’ll go if you still have the need.

[Dyslexicon]

@Fatmo @Poison Chan @sprityo

Would any of you be willing to replace in?
The game has just started. =)

I’ll go if you still have the need.

Fantastic!