The Syndicate

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 9:10 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 9:09 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:57 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:56 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:53 pm Given the fact that it's 30 players, and two old-school hosts, and that previous Champs games have been multiball, I would bet money on it.

Ah ok, I haven't played one of these before. But that explains why Guillo said this forum was fond of multiball lol

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:54 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:52 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:51 pm Did you guys keep track of who sent who Secret Santa stuff? Any discussion on that front?

I can recheck the East thread if you're curious but I don't remember much discussion about it. I think there were 4 people who sent gifts to your thread.

leetic sent one to Lime Coke.

that's... interesting
given that Lime Coke was scum

You know, I thought so...? But no one in our Facility seemed to care that much.

wait, you guys knew we lunched him on D1? because we weren't told anything about your thread.

seanzie received word about what was going on in your thread.

This was my Santa
I got to send Sean a note
At end of day 1

Given the landlords
are labeled as "Mafia"
Think no multiball

what reads list

Oh maybe I was
not supposed to claim message
Oops hope that's okay

But it was public
in our thread that i chose sean
at least, just not gift

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 9:39 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 9:36 pm oh yeah, maybe this was already mentioned but how many kills did you guys have on N1? East Facility had 2 deaths.

Just one (Caitlin). But Daisy was killed shortly after the start of Day 2. My guess is a slank vig did it. She had 1 post.

ok, ours was definitely not a slank vig but tbh I didn't check to see if it could've been a top-poster vig. it was a nightvig, though, at any rate.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:09 pm what reads list

Good question

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:07 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 9:10 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 9:09 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:57 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:56 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:53 pm Given the fact that it's 30 players, and two old-school hosts, and that previous Champs games have been multiball, I would bet money on it.

Ah ok, I haven't played one of these before. But that explains why Guillo said this forum was fond of multiball lol

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:54 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:52 pm

I can recheck the East thread if you're curious but I don't remember much discussion about it. I think there were 4 people who sent gifts to your thread.

leetic sent one to Lime Coke.

that's... interesting
given that Lime Coke was scum

You know, I thought so...? But no one in our Facility seemed to care that much.

wait, you guys knew we lunched him on D1? because we weren't told anything about your thread.

seanzie received word about what was going on in your thread.

This was my Santa
I got to send Sean a note
At end of day 1

ahh ok
that makes sense, then. i wonder if anyone in the other thread sent a message to our thread, but i'm guessing the prizes were probably asymmetrical.

I need to read over Sabi's posts now that Alison flipped town
I was pretty sure Alison was going to flip scum :/ it just felt like she was making up reasons to keep her PoE the same for a while

I think that someone would have mentioned something if they got a message but who knows? A Wolf might have kept the information to themselves. Let's see if anyone from our thread claims sending one.

If there are 30 people and only one mafia team, then what do you guys think, 6 Wolves? 7?

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:14 pm I think that someone would have mentioned something if they got a message but who knows? A Wolf might have kept the information to themselves. Let's see if anyone from our thread claims sending one.

I am not sure that
I was supposed to claim that
Maybe don't follow

Seanziei was clear to tell us all about his message on the other side, but who knows?

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:14 pm I think that someone would have mentioned something if they got a message but who knows? A Wolf might have kept the information to themselves. Let's see if anyone from our thread claims sending one.

Yeah, that's exactly why I'm wondering.

Given thread split mech
Six with three per half makes sense?
What was severance

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:15 pm If there are 30 people and only one mafia team, then what do you guys think, 6 Wolves? 7?

Yep, I speculated 6 or 7 and maybe a 3p or two between the threads. Severance had just one 3p who could see both threads at once, but there was an odd number of players there iirc. We have an even number here, and our threads have merged, so it could either be 7 mafia with an uneven split and a 3p in the thread with fewer mafia, or 6 mafia and two 3ps.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:20 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:15 pm If there are 30 people and only one mafia team, then what do you guys think, 6 Wolves? 7?

Yep, I speculated 6 or 7 and maybe a 3p or two between the threads. Severance had just one 3p who could see both threads at once, but there was an odd number of players there iirc. We have an even number here, and our threads have merged, so it could either be 7 mafia with an uneven split and a 3p in the thread with fewer mafia, or 6 mafia and two 3ps.

I guess it could also be 8 mafia? but that number seems kind of high.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:17 pm Seanziei was clear to tell us all about his message on the other side, but who knows?

This is the name of my hydra with Seanzie.

I am curious
to hear the case on Delta
that has been mentioned


Curious that sig
and falcon are both suspects;
had early good vibes

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:20 pm I am curious
to hear the case on Delta
that has been mentioned


Curious that sig
and falcon are both suspects;
had early good vibes

I suspected both sig and falcon in the N0 thread lol
maybe it's time I should do a little backreading but I'd like to hear the cases on them too

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:14 pm I need to read over Sabi's posts now that Alison flipped town
I was pretty sure Alison was going to flip scum :/ it just felt like she was making up reasons to keep her PoE the same for a while

Thread had copium
I wish I had spoken up
More that she'd flip town

I had changed my mind
But did not convince others
Wolves were happy there

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:20 pm I am curious
to hear the case on Delta
that has been mentioned


Curious that sig
and falcon are both suspects;
had early good vibes

It would be difficult to convey the Delta case here because it hinged almost entirely on interactions with pyxxy, and we can’t copy text from the other thread.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:23 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:20 pm I am curious
to hear the case on Delta
that has been mentioned


Curious that sig
and falcon are both suspects;
had early good vibes

It would be difficult to convey the Delta case here because it hinged almost entirely on interactions with pyxxy, and we can’t copy text from the other thread.

Paraphrasing could
still do some work to convince
if context is clear

My hope with thread merge
is that rather than counters
with one town one scum,

each clique votes their top
suspect and we end up with
two wolf/wolf wagons

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 9:19 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 9:04 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:57 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:56 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:53 pm Given the fact that it's 30 players, and two old-school hosts, and that previous Champs games have been multiball, I would bet money on it.

Ah ok, I haven't played one of these before. But that explains why Guillo said this forum was fond of multiball lol

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:54 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:52 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:51 pm Did you guys keep track of who sent who Secret Santa stuff? Any discussion on that front?

I can recheck the East thread if you're curious but I don't remember much discussion about it. I think there were 4 people who sent gifts to your thread.

leetic sent one to Lime Coke.

that's... interesting
given that Lime Coke was scum

You know, I thought so...? But no one in our Facility seemed to care that much.

I genuinely did not even notice.

@leetic Mind explaining for the entire class you selected Lime Coke as your gift recipient?

I've explained it in the previous thread, I just chose someone I was more familiar with. They died D1 so no harm done.

This feels kinda yuck

I thought leetic was
not so great from night zero
but not with sabi?

then again, it would
be that sabi hard bussed brad
if they were teammates

Someone wanna fill me in on why Sabi is getting pushed? If it's been talked about I missed it

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:22 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:14 pm I need to read over Sabi's posts now that Alison flipped town
I was pretty sure Alison was going to flip scum :/ it just felt like she was making up reasons to keep her PoE the same for a while

Thread had copium
I wish I had spoken up
More that she'd flip town

I had changed my mind
But did not convince others
Wolves were happy there

well yeah, *I* was happy there

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:23 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:20 pm I am curious
to hear the case on Delta
that has been mentioned


Curious that sig
and falcon are both suspects;
had early good vibes

It would be difficult to convey the Delta case here because it hinged almost entirely on interactions with pyxxy, and we can’t copy text from the other thread.

can you sort of paraphrase things?
at least knowing that it was based on interactions is a good starting point for those of us who weren't in your thread, so thank you for that

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:24 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:23 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:20 pm I am curious
to hear the case on Delta
that has been mentioned


Curious that sig
and falcon are both suspects;
had early good vibes

It would be difficult to convey the Delta case here because it hinged almost entirely on interactions with pyxxy, and we can’t copy text from the other thread.

Paraphrasing could
still do some work to convince
if context is clear

Delta did some pushes early to get pyxxy to post more, and also voted on the counterwagon, and gave the reason that recent games they have been v-w, and Delta was hoping pyxxy would be v-v this time... or something like that. I wouldn't say that the logic for Delta being suspicious was unreasonable.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:26 pm My hope with thread merge
is that rather than counters
with one town one scum,

each clique votes their top
suspect and we end up with
two wolf/wolf wagons

At least for Day 3? I feel like my vote would be more honest on someone from our facility.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:43 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:22 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:14 pm I need to read over Sabi's posts now that Alison flipped town
I was pretty sure Alison was going to flip scum :/ it just felt like she was making up reasons to keep her PoE the same for a while

Thread had copium
I wish I had spoken up
More that she'd flip town

I had changed my mind
But did not convince others
Wolves were happy there

well yeah, *I* was happy there

What do you mean?

first

actually, I'll come back tomorrow

it's nice to have everyone in one thread again but at the same time, it feels so disorienting and I can't remember half of you

I still have a lot of work tonight, but let's see...

After pyxxy went, I started looking at interactions. Delta was the first or one of the first and that was good enough for me at the time. See the statement above.

Delta's answer to my suspicion was one of the more bizarre explanations I have ever heard (LC has it, I think). Nevertheless, by that point, I was the only vote on Delta.

Meanwhile, Porscha was shitting on The Pyxxy Scientists and seemed very frustrated and unlike what I recalled Porscha to be of either alignment.

Seanzie popped in and said Porscha is mean when bad. I have no evidence of that (the claim, not that Seanzie said it, but I suppose I don't have evidence of either ).

Eventually I was dumb and voted Porscha despite my reluctance. The other viable option at the time was sig, someone I've not given much thought to.

Porscha was good. Seanzie was also good.

This was a shameful display.

Yeah, so much for Seanzie's long-held "tell" for Porscha.

Why haven't you given sig any thought?

My suspicion of sig goes like this:

I made a case on Seanzie on Day 1. He responded somewhat reasonably and I said "ok fair". Later someone asked me about it and I said the reasons I was suspicious. Seanzie reacted somewhat uncoolly, and it led to him accusing me of pushing his case all day, and also being reluctant to push the case, when I simply hadn't pushed it at all. So I got suspicious all over again and made a case surrounding those events. So that's "LC's case on Seanzie".

sig posted last-minute at EoD and it included him saying he likes "LC's case on Seanzie". Day 2, I asked him what he liked about my case, but he didn't respond. Later he repeated the words that he likes my case on Seanzie, once again without talking about the case, which parts he liked about it, why it makes Seanzie look bad, or any other reasons to suspect Seanzie.

It is highly unusual for anyone to say the words "I liked Long Con's case" at all, but that sig gave it lip service twice without elaborating, and without responding to me asking for more insight... I told him I think he was just laying groundwork to foster the appearance of suspecting Seanzie, but he responded with something like "well I haven't even gone after Seanzie, so that makes no sense".

Maybe it's only suspicious to me.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:13 pm Why haven't you given sig any thought?

It's a personal bias in his favor. I prefer to leave him alone in the early going. Dude is Day 1 or Day 2 lynch bait all the time in my experience.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:45 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:24 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:23 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:20 pm I am curious
to hear the case on Delta
that has been mentioned


Curious that sig
and falcon are both suspects;
had early good vibes

It would be difficult to convey the Delta case here because it hinged almost entirely on interactions with pyxxy, and we can’t copy text from the other thread.

Paraphrasing could
still do some work to convince
if context is clear

Delta did some pushes early to get pyxxy to post more, and also voted on the counterwagon, and gave the reason that recent games they have been v-w, and Delta was hoping pyxxy would be v-v this time... or something like that. I wouldn't say that the logic for Delta being suspicious was unreasonable.

I feel like that kind of statement more often comes from town, though... was it about the way it was said?

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:45 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:26 pm My hope with thread merge
is that rather than counters
with one town one scum,

each clique votes their top
suspect and we end up with
two wolf/wolf wagons

At least for Day 3? I feel like my vote would be more honest on someone from our facility.

Yeah, I think that's what nutella was suggesting, and she has a good point.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:45 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:43 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:22 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:14 pm I need to read over Sabi's posts now that Alison flipped town
I was pretty sure Alison was going to flip scum :/ it just felt like she was making up reasons to keep her PoE the same for a while

Thread had copium
I wish I had spoken up
More that she'd flip town

I had changed my mind
But did not convince others
Wolves were happy there

well yeah, *I* was happy there

What do you mean?

I mean I was happy voting Alison for 2 days straight, so yeah, wolves would be very happy to hop onto that because it's a town-initiated push. I'd been pushing her since N0, you can at least see that thread. I thought her push on me was complete BS because she was already preflipping me with Sabi in the first couple posts of the day, and then she continued to find reasons to push me by saying that I was scum for voting her. Like, I don't really need to wolfcase a dead townie, but I'm telling you why I was content to continue voting her.

I trust that you will make sig answer for that.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:17 pm I trust that you will make sig answer for that.

This was an addendum to LC.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:56 pm I still have a lot of work tonight, but let's see...

After pyxxy went, I started looking at interactions. Delta was the first or one of the first and that was good enough for me at the time. See the statement above.

Delta's answer to my suspicion was one of the more bizarre explanations I have ever heard (LC has it, I think). Nevertheless, by that point, I was the only vote on Delta.

Meanwhile, Porscha was shitting on The Pyxxy Scientists and seemed very frustrated and unlike what I recalled Porscha to be of either alignment.

Seanzie popped in and said Porscha is mean when bad. I have no evidence of that (the claim, not that Seanzie said it, but I suppose I don't have evidence of either ).

Eventually I was dumb and voted Porscha despite my reluctance. The other viable option at the time was sig, someone I've not given much thought to.

Porscha was good. Seanzie was also good.

This was a shameful display.

Who are The Pyxxy Scientists?

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:21 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:56 pm I still have a lot of work tonight, but let's see...

After pyxxy went, I started looking at interactions. Delta was the first or one of the first and that was good enough for me at the time. See the statement above.

Delta's answer to my suspicion was one of the more bizarre explanations I have ever heard (LC has it, I think). Nevertheless, by that point, I was the only vote on Delta.

Meanwhile, Porscha was shitting on The Pyxxy Scientists and seemed very frustrated and unlike what I recalled Porscha to be of either alignment.

Seanzie popped in and said Porscha is mean when bad. I have no evidence of that (the claim, not that Seanzie said it, but I suppose I don't have evidence of either ).

Eventually I was dumb and voted Porscha despite my reluctance. The other viable option at the time was sig, someone I've not given much thought to.

Porscha was good. Seanzie was also good.

This was a shameful display.

Who are The Pyxxy Scientists?

The coolest new band around, baby!

I have front-row tickets, it's gonna be wild

The serious answer is "The people analyzing pyxxy for clues."

leetic, Ricochet, me, and...

I'm sorry I've forgotten the drummer's name.

How do you guys feel about that Davos pirate guy?

While we're getting to know one another:

What were the noteworthy arguments used to tie individuals to Lime Coke?

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:31 pm How do you guys feel about that Davos pirate guy?

he just made pirate noises twice, never put his vote in the thread, but voted in the poll on both days
idek if his vote counted. there was a theory floated in our thread that perhaps the puppet accounts were people from opposite threads who had observation skills, since you must've had Scrappy if we had Davos, but this was never proven because Davos just didn't say much.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:38 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:31 pm How do you guys feel about that Davos pirate guy?

he just made pirate noises twice, never put his vote in the thread, but voted in the poll on both days
idek if his vote counted. there was a theory floated in our thread that perhaps the puppet accounts were people from opposite threads who had observation skills, since you must've had Scrappy if we had Davos, but this was never proven because Davos just didn't say much.

Scrappy was a fairly regular contributor on Day 1, but had little to say on Day 2.

I had a vaguely favorable impression of Scrappy's posts on Day 1, and I also just recalled another point in their favor: one of the few game-related topics that pyxxy focused on was an attempt to solve Scrappy's identity.