Retrocausality Mafia - ENDGAME: A Reprieve in the Desert

[Spacedaisy]

Is this a question about Scotty or golden?

[Spacedaisy]

I'm going to ISO Scotty really quick.

[ColinIsCool]

Is this a question about Scotty or golden?

Both. Golden moreso for the severity he offers while still being fine switching tacks to whomever is fighting him the hardest.

[Turnip Head]

The only thing I know for sure about Golden's meta is that he likes to talk about his own meta. Frankly I don't expect that to change

[Turnip Head]

The only thing I know for sure about Golden's meta is that he likes to talk about his own meta. Frankly I don't expect that to change

[mention]Golden[/mention]

[Spacedaisy]

Ok, after an ISO of Scotty, I found him all over the place. Yet the only person he doggedly pursued with questioning was Golden and he never had his vote on Golden. And that line of questioning with Golden felt like something more intended to get Golden's feathers ruffled than t o really hunt scum. It just doesn't sit well with me. I don't normally have a problem with someone's vote being all over the place in Day 1. Pressure voting is a real and useful thing at times when done properly. but Scotty almost never accompanied his votes with any real accusations or pressure. It feels fake. If he legitimately suspected Golden, why not vote for him. That is what I keep coming back to.

I'll ISO Golden next [mention]ColinIsCool[/mention]

[nutella]

[VOTE: spacedaisy] aubergine

That was fake and she's bad and maybe lap's teammate

nutella you are one of two things right now. Either scum or someone who is letting their opinion of me be colored by what happened in the genius. Either way, i don't give a shit if you agree with my assessment or not or what you think about my posts.

what?? this has absolutely nothing to do with the genius, lol. in fact I've barely been remembering it exists since I got eliminated. but regardless it has no effect on my suspicions in this game. I suspect you and that's that.

[nutella]

and honestly the random assumption that my suspicion of you is based on a personal grudge looks even more suspicious to me. like, acknowledge that my perspective can be valid and make a reasonable attempt to refute my assertion that your statement was fake, don't just wave it off and discredit my accusation

[sig]

Just a quick reminder whatever you do don't complain to dunya, you might get thrown back in time or something.

Take no chances
Trust no mods
That's my new motto

and that's why you should vote for me night 1 A candidate you can trust when even the mods might be bad.

[nutella]

[mention]Kylemii[/mention] hi are you bad

[Turnip Head]

sig you beautiful bastard

[dunya]

Just a quick reminder whatever you do don't complain to dunya, you might get thrown back in time or something.

Take no chances
Trust no mods
That's my new motto

and that's why you should vote for me night 1 A candidate you can trust when even the mods might be bad.

That's a funny joke, but I really hated motel room's role for this reason.

I hope no one is ever hesitant or discouraged from reaching out to the mod on duty.

[Turnip Head]

Someone else should vote for me so we can have a three way between me, Golden, and Scotty. Then since Golden's a rich lawyer he can be my sugar daddy after the threesome. Of course he'll end up dying in a tragic yacht "accident" and eaten by alligators and I'll be forced into a lifetime of mourning as I collect his multi million dollar life insurance policy and live of his lawyering money, until I tragically also die in a mysterious incident caused by Scotty since even though he spent years establishing himself as a master theater master in his own theater in Nebraska he never stopped wondering what life would've been like if Golden had picked him and secretly plotted revenge against me since he believed (falsely I might add) that I somehow was responsible for Golden's tragic deathbyyatch/alligator.

And so the saga ends of Sig n Golden n Scotty and the moral of the story remains, someone vote for me to make it a tie.

Are we lynching this man or not

[Spacedaisy]

and honestly the random assumption that my suspicion of you is based on a personal grudge looks even more suspicious to me. like, acknowledge that my perspective can be valid and make a reasonable attempt to refute my assertion that your statement was fake, don't just wave it off and discredit my accusation

It wasn't fake, it was my thoughts as I read that post. I don't care if you like or agree. But there is no proof to convince you of whether or not it is fake and I don't care to waste my time trying. I have better things to do, like hunt scum. And frankly, you saying you don't have some kind of impression of me due to Genius only serves to convince me you are bad, beacuse that was a weak ass accusation. you had already decided to vote me before I started posting and you then grasped onto the one post I made with the simple statment that what I said was fake (no reason to back this up or say why you think it is fake) and that I was teammates with lap? I said nothing about lap, I was questioning Zeph. I don't believe you are town.

Also, I will dismiss your accusations as much as I please. If it's a stupid reason to vote for me, I'm under no obligation to do anything. I'm playing to catch scum not waste my time defending against someone I'm not convinced is civ to begin with. bring a real case and I might actually address it. until then, nah.

It's not random, you used it against me in the last game I played against you. And you were wrong then. Just like you are here.

The only reason my vote isn't on you right now is because the last time I suspected you I was wrong. But then, my suspicious were based on your connections with Elo, this time it's all you.

[MacDougall]

Mac's been less then Macey so far.

Sig. You are banned from commenting on my alignment from now on. Banned.

[Spacedaisy]

Just a quick reminder whatever you do don't complain to dunya, you might get thrown back in time or something.

Take no chances
Trust no mods
That's my new motto

and that's why you should vote for me night 1 A candidate you can trust when even the mods might be bad.

That's a funny joke, but I really hated motel room's role for this reason.

I hope no one is ever hesitant or discouraged from reaching out to the mod on duty.

Speaking as an Admin right now: For the record, the role slipped by the Mod before the game was already ongoing. It was an oversight, and it will never happen again. Mods are not a game strategy or mechanic. They are there to keep the game healthy and the community positive.

[ColinIsCool]

Spacedaisy is reading the thread, but [mention]Kylemii[/mention] [mention]lapluie[/mention] we want yr votes

[nutella]

Well, you're wrong about me, and maybe I'm wrong about you, but we both have the right to suspect each other. And no, I didn't decide to vote for you before that post.

[nutella]

Just a quick reminder whatever you do don't complain to dunya, you might get thrown back in time or something.

Take no chances
Trust no mods
That's my new motto

and that's why you should vote for me night 1 A candidate you can trust when even the mods might be bad.

That's a funny joke, but I really hated motel room's role for this reason.

I hope no one is ever hesitant or discouraged from reaching out to the mod on duty.

Speaking as an Admin right now: For the record, the role slipped by the Mod before the game was already ongoing. It was an oversight, and it will never happen again. Mods are not a game strategy or mechanic. They are there to keep the game healthy and the community positive.

Agreed, that role was really inappropriate

[sig]

Why vote for Sig tonight?

- Great leader
- Brilliant friend
- Amazing adjective user
- Hasn't been scum for years so can't be in this game since statstics or something
- Trustworthy
- JUst came off an amazing win in U-Pick
- Team player
- basically an unkillable super omnipotent time god
- BONUS REASON Imma be president in the reaaaaaaal someday, and I'll remember those who vote for me here. I'm not saying I'll abuse my power as a form of a bribe, buuuuuuuuuuut I'll totally give you a bribe.

[Spacedaisy]

Ohhhhh zeph played in UPick!! I forgot.

Yeah, that’s fine then.

[VOTE: Zephyrus] aubergine

This was rather my point.

If you can't even remember he played U-Pick and I don't know what affiliation he was, why is his quietness suspicious if he wasn't bad in that game?

This is the only post by Golden that gives me real pause. Let's look at why Scotty voted Zeph first...

Ohhhhh zeph played in UPick!! I forgot.

Yeah, that’s fine then.

[VOTE: Zephyrus] aubergine

Before he moved to Zeph his vote was on me, it would seem he was only voting for someone who hadn't posted, I could have at most had one post at that point. So Scotty's vote had nothing to do with Zeph's alignment. Golden's question is irrelevant. I just can't decided if he was just lost in the conversation that was going on, or protecting Zeph.

I still lean town, but this is probably my only hesitation about Golden.

[sig]

Just a quick reminder whatever you do don't complain to dunya, you might get thrown back in time or something.

Take no chances
Trust no mods
That's my new motto

and that's why you should vote for me night 1 A candidate you can trust when even the mods might be bad.

That's a funny joke, but I really hated motel room's role for this reason.

I hope no one is ever hesitant or discouraged from reaching out to the mod on duty.

Speaking as an Admin right now: For the record, the role slipped by the Mod before the game was already ongoing. It was an oversight, and it will never happen again. Mods are not a game strategy or mechanic. They are there to keep the game healthy and the community positive.

Agreed, that role was really inappropriate

[VOTE: dunya] aubergine

[sig]

Mac's been less then Macey so far.

Sig. You are banned from commenting on my alignment from now on. Banned.

Yes Master

[sig]

sig you beautiful bastard

[ColinIsCool]

Why vote for Sig tonight?

- Great leader
- Brilliant friend
- Amazing adjective user
- Hasn't been scum for years so can't be in this game since statstics or something
- Trustworthy
- JUst came off an amazing win in U-Pick
- Team player
- basically an unkillable super omnipotent time god
- BONUS REASON Imma be president in the reaaaaaaal someday, and I'll remember those who vote for me here. I'm not saying I'll abuse my power as a form of a bribe, buuuuuuuuuuut I'll totally give you a bribe.

Why are you thinking about this when the lynch is still so up in the air? Wouldn’t you like to catch scum?

[sig]

Switching to INH his post was blah, but in spirit I'm voting dunya


linki: I can't currently discuss matters pertaining to the current phase with the press, but I can direct you to my campaign manager [mention]Turnip Head[/mention] and he'll answer all your questions.

[Spacedaisy]

Oh really, nutella?

I see your post INH.

[VOTE: Spacedaisy] aubergine

I could vote for daisy. I'll give her a chance to get her foot in the door but I don't like that she's been hanging back so far.

INH and sig both look good imo/I agree with them on a lot so far

Lap.... idk she's an enigma. As are Luna and Choutas. Post more friendos

[VOTE: spacedaisy] aubergine

That was fake and she's bad and maybe lap's teammate

You were shading me before I was even actually playing the game. What a shock that you voted me with my first actual post I made. Not to mention how weak your vote was.

[Spacedaisy]

I don't like the INH train. I'm voting Scotty. I would be much more comfortable lynching Scotty.

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

[sig]

Daisy and nutella are t/t imo

[Golden]

The only thing I know for sure about Golden's meta is that he likes to talk about his own meta. Frankly I don't expect that to change

Very accurate statement. That’s why it bothers me that someone who knows that makes a long case based on it.

Daisy, I’ve heard you. I’m thinking. But I don’t fully trust you yet. Inh and Scotty I have what I think are good reasons against each. Have to weigh them up.

[Golden]

Well I can’t be assed fixing that.

[nutella]

Oh really, nutella?

I see your post INH.

[VOTE: Spacedaisy] aubergine

I could vote for daisy. I'll give her a chance to get her foot in the door but I don't like that she's been hanging back so far.

INH and sig both look good imo/I agree with them on a lot so far

Lap.... idk she's an enigma. As are Luna and Choutas. Post more friendos

[VOTE: spacedaisy] aubergine

That was fake and she's bad and maybe lap's teammate

You were shading me before I was even actually playing the game. What a shock that you voted me with my first actual post I made. Not to mention how weak your vote was.

Yes, really. I didn't say I was going to vote for you in the earlier post. I said I could vote for you but that I was going to give you a chance to play first. When you came in to play I didn't like the content you contributed and found your post actively suspicious. It wasn't a predetermined thing by a long shot. You absolutely could have given a better impression once you came in, but you didn't.

[Golden]

Ohhhhh zeph played in UPick!! I forgot.

Yeah, that’s fine then.

[VOTE: Zephyrus] aubergine

This was rather my point.

If you can't even remember he played U-Pick and I don't know what affiliation he was, why is his quietness suspicious if he wasn't bad in that game?

This is the only post by Golden that gives me real pause. Let's look at why Scotty voted Zeph first...

Ohhhhh zeph played in UPick!! I forgot.

Yeah, that’s fine then.

[VOTE: Zephyrus] aubergine

Before he moved to Zeph his vote was on me, it would seem he was only voting for someone who hadn't posted, I could have at most had one post at that point. So Scotty's vote had nothing to do with Zeph's alignment. Golden's question is irrelevant. I just can't decided if he was just lost in the conversation that was going on, or protecting Zeph.

I still lean town, but this is probably my only hesitation about Golden.

My question was aimed at epi though. It’s just that scotty engaged in it.

[Spacedaisy]

That answers my question of the one thing that concerned me Goldne. regarding your messed up quote above, was it you saying you don't know if you trust me yet? the quote says TH, so I'm unclear.

[sig]

All the serious players are ignoring me.

[sig]

Also Golden's frustration is towny, I'd rather leave him alone.


@nutella why was I a civ read?

[Turnip Head]

Switching to INH his post was blah, but in spirit I'm voting dunya


linki: I can't currently discuss matters pertaining to the current phase with the press, but I can direct you to my campaign manager @Turnip Head and he'll answer all your questions.

^^^
sig looking at his rolecard i presume

[Golden]

Is this a question about Scotty or golden?

Both. Golden moreso for the severity he offers while still being fine switching tacks to whomever is fighting him the hardest.

Never have I suggested Mac (who was first) or epi (who was hardest for a while) is bad. This is a false statement.

I am severe on the false. You’re on my list.

[Spacedaisy]

Not ignoring you sig, you were actually next on my ISO list.

[Quin]

We’re mindmelding this game!

Like nice haircut man

Scotty again voices suspicions of Golden but fails to act on them.

I already said I wasn’t voting golden today

Shades of “I’m not voting JJJ” in Easter? If you’re suspicious of him, why not?

Shades of im not changing my D1 meta regardless of alignment so I don’t get lynched D1.

Seems to fucking backfire a lot though

Oh — so you’re saying you won’t vote for an active player on D1 out of principle/intentional meta?

Yep. Because if I’m wrong and a big potential town talker I’d eliminated, we’ve got some ghosts taking their spot and ghosts are 2spooky4me

[mention]ColinIsCool[/mention] after playing mafia with this guy for 3 years now I can tell you this is completely NAI for Scotty

[Golden]

For example, Golden has offered relatively strong scum reads or accusations of fake behavior against these users: Quin, Epignosis, Scotty, insertnamehere

Scotty has done the same, or voiced his favor for a lynch, for Zephyrus, Golden, Spacedaisy, Choutas, and a few maybe-serious-maybe-not votes for sig and insertnamehere.

Is it just me, or does wildly vacillating between all these people seem kinda weird (particularly for Scotty)?

Nope, no scum read on epi. Get your glasses checked. I said I’d policy lynch him. I’m also not ‘wildly vaccilating’ between the other three.

If Scotty is bad book Quin as teammate. Inh is a separate theory of the game. Quin was, however, essentially my first ping vote and I’ve never implied I would vote for him today since switching of him.

And why would it be bad even if you were correct?

[Quin]

Quin - Quin

nice

[MacDougall]

To those who are complaining about my glorious creation I say the following.

9. This is a bastard game. Don't get all upset when weird shit happens.

And would argue that I was abundantly clear that if you didn't want to experience anything affronting to not play.

And I will close by stating that he failed and nothing happened anyway so clearly it's no big deal so get over it or I will time vig you.

[MacDougall]

Can we character claim yet?

[MacDougall]

Also yes the role was silly and should never exist again.

[Quin]

[VOTE: spacedaisy] aubergine

That was fake and she's bad and maybe lap's teammate

agree

[Golden]

That answers my question of the one thing that concerned me Goldne. regarding your messed up quote above, was it you saying you don't know if you trust me yet? the quote says TH, so I'm unclear.

Yeah but I haven’t really read your recent posts yet.

Getting a townie vibe today but wasn’t earlier in the game.

[Quin]

For example, Golden has offered relatively strong scum reads or accusations of fake behavior against these users: Quin, Epignosis, Scotty, insertnamehere

Scotty has done the same, or voiced his favor for a lynch, for Zephyrus, Golden, Spacedaisy, Choutas, and a few maybe-serious-maybe-not votes for sig and insertnamehere.

Is it just me, or does wildly vacillating between all these people seem kinda weird (particularly for Scotty)?

Nope, no scum read on epi. Get your glasses checked. I said I’d policy lynch him. I’m also not ‘wildly vaccilating’ between the other three.

If Scotty is bad book Quin as teammate. Inh is a separate theory of the game. Quin was, however, essentially my first ping vote and I’ve never implied I would vote for him today since switching of him.

And why would it be bad even if you were correct?

Your vote being there in the first place is proof that you perceive me as a worthwhile vote. The implication is there.

[Quin]

[VOTE: spacedaisy] aubergine

That was fake and she's bad and maybe lap's teammate

Tell me about lap, nut

she's an enigma. she basically only spouted nonsense about quin which she does in every game

Wait I thought lap was a guy

do you want to get lynched mate

[MacDougall]

Spacedaisy is the key.