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Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:16 pm
by tutuu
and i forgot to say, after he survives this first yeet, he will then be killable

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:30 pm
by Turnip Head
Why do you keep asking me to claim? I do not think that is a good idea at this stage.

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:51 pm
by Kylemii
turniphead is sus for not saying hello to me after 4 years

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:54 pm
by 112
Kylemii wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:51 pm turniphead is sus for not saying hello to me after 4 years
sus noted

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:55 pm
by NIK
KZA wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:47 pm Are we setting NIK aside for now? I feel like everyone is forgetting he's alive lol
Yes we are. Because its obvious from all the CW and scum flips that NIKs town
why are you bringing this up big guy

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:11 pm
by 112
NIK coming in hot

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:19 pm
by Turnip Head
Kylemii wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:51 pm turniphead is sus for not saying hello to me after 4 years
I said it with my eyes

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:15 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Has TH still not claimed?

He should probably at least partial claim

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:20 am
by Turnip Head
Ok if you think it's a good idea to claim, I'm the mayor.

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:22 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
I guess now’s the time to say I [tracked/watched] TH do the NK

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:22 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Well he went to thunal at least, which I assume was the NK cause martin wasn’t SRing her afaik

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:22 am
by Turnip Head
Lol no you didn't

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:23 am
by Turnip Head
I didn't target anybody last night, if you got that result from tracking me I was switched with someone else.

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:24 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
I was trying to hold off in case he claimed the town secrets role, but it didn’t seem super likely to me tbh. Claiming mayor I know is a lie so I think he’s probably just mafia 🤷‍♀️

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:26 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
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Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:27 am
by Turnip Head
Maybe you think it's a lie but I'm claiming mayor regardless, it's the best move as town to do so.

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:27 am
by Turnip Head
Think about it

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:30 am
by Turnip Head
Also I don't go by he much jic u were wondering. I use they/them atm

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:31 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
I mean

You aren’t being subtle about it, might as well just make it explicit at this point yeah

Cause this mayor claim is obviously not true, I don’t think scum is going to be fooled by it kek

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:32 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Turnip Head wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:30 am Also I don't go by he much jic u were wondering. I use they/them atm
Oh my bad, I wasn’t aware. Will correct 👍

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:34 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Eh idk, I see what you’re claiming, I gotta think about it ig

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:34 am
by Turnip Head
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:31 am I mean

You aren’t being subtle about it, might as well just make it explicit at this point yeah

Cause this mayor claim is obviously not true, I don’t think scum is going to be fooled by it kek
Ok cool. I must have been switched last night if that helps your investigation

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:35 am
by nutella
OOH A CLAIM BATTLE


my immediate reaction is th is more believable and nook is less believable


cool we have a definitive 1 for 1 in them tho

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:38 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
I’m kind of considering that we might be in the 10% world where TH is town

Idk

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:38 am
by nutella
Oh wait maybe not it sounds like TH is actually town secret role maybe and they can actually both be town loooooool damn

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:39 am
by nutella
Idk occams razor one of them is lying still bc is it reasonable to assume there was a swap/busdrive of some kind still


Im confused and should go to bed

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:40 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
I mean TH is definitely lying

But he could still be town lying so

Idfk

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:15 am
by Alison
I don't get why you are considering a 10% TH town world if they are tracked to the kill

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:35 am
by Turnip Head
Hi Kyle

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:31 am
by tutuu
I think TH's reaction was towny

We have a dead busdriver who died last might who made a switch that nobody knows

TH's slot, was a slot we all thought was scum

Its not unreasobale Martin switched TH to someone else

Compare Thundercat's reaction to TH's reaction

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:35 am
by tutuu
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME why did u decide to wait for 3 nights before u use your track on n4, and why on the Myo slot?

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:36 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Answering that would require me to claim whether it’s a watch or a track, soooooooo

Pass

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:38 am
by Alison
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:36 am Answering that would require me to claim whether it’s a watch or a track, soooooooo

Pass
Okay but can you answer why you believe that there's a 10% chance that TH is town if they've claimed Mayor and you know for a fact that they entered Thunal's house

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:39 am
by tutuu
I mean if its a watch then you have a 100% red peek on TH, TH being busdriven can mess up with a track, it doesnt interact with a watch

So you already revealed u have a track by saying TH might be town

Or u mistakingly thought that TH being busdriven interacts with a watch. Unless u thought u were redirected yourself?

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:40 am
by tutuu
Unless thunal was busdriven

Ah i get it, didnt thought of that

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:42 am
by tutuu
But no, even if thunal was busdriven, u saw TH visiting someone (as a watcher)

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:45 am
by tutuu
Oh so u saw TH visiting someone but if thunal was busdriven and u watched her, u think that TH might be a visiting town pr that visites someone completely unrelated

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:46 am
by Alison
I actually don't feel great about the TC wagon now. They've essentially confirmed that tutuu's check on them is accurate by reaction, but they could be 3P. Even if they're mafia, the fact that so many people have claimed roles today means that tonight is when we're at the most risk of having a lot of people drop dead from soupkill mechanics. In that context it might not be appropriate to remove TC's second life, because you'd rather actually get a mafia out of the game for parity reasons.

@sig You tinfoiled nutella earlier on the basis of NKA. What makes you think it's due to nutella orchestrating scum kills around her rather than a doc dodge? We have two docs and a bus driver, and scum failed to kill the first two nights (suggesting that they might have hit a healed target).

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:05 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
tutuu wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:39 am I mean if its a watch then you have a 100% red peek on TH, TH being busdriven can mess up with a track, it doesnt interact with a watch

So you already revealed u have a track by saying TH might be town

Or u mistakingly thought that TH being busdriven interacts with a watch. Unless u thought u were redirected yourself?
I don’t see any reason a game with a town ninja couldn’t have a scum one shot ninja or something along those lines in it

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:53 am
by tutuu
Wait wtf town ninja who was a town ninja

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:55 am
by tutuu
The vig huh

Well alright

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:00 am
by tutuu
Man i dont believe thundercat is survivor thats just lame and the host doesnt seem to like lame roles

There are 5 non towns but LC is townsiding and mafia traitor doesnt count for parity

So rly there are de facto 3 anti-town members for the purposes of parity

I think thundercat is the obliterator and we need him dead at some point anyway, we will need to double yeet him at some point, so might as well now. Dunno

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:01 am
by tutuu
Think about the l o n g. .t e r m. g u y s

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:04 am
by tutuu
Like its a 3 day investment to yeet thundercat

First yeet, vanish on the 2nd day, yeet on 3rd day

Even if we kill all the other mafia we will need to do this 3 day investment to kill him

Why not get rid of his first life now

Yeet another mafia tomorrow

Finish him the day after tomorrow

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:05 am
by Alison
tutuu wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:04 am Like its a 3 day investment to yeet thundercat

First yeet, vanish on the 2nd day, yeet on 3rd day

Even if we kill all the other mafia we will need to do this 3 day investment to kill him

Why not get rid of his first life now

Yeet another mafia tomorrow

Finish him the day after tomorrow
We have to find the other mafia members too, and getting rid of them now makes it harder for a big soupkill to achieve parity.

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:06 am
by Alison
Basically, even if TC is mafia, the diff between exeing TC and exeing TC's teammate is that exeing TC's teammate makes it a lot harder to lose to a masskill.

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:33 am
by sig
Alison wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:46 am I actually don't feel great about the TC wagon now. They've essentially confirmed that tutuu's check on them is accurate by reaction, but they could be 3P. Even if they're mafia, the fact that so many people have claimed roles today means that tonight is when we're at the most risk of having a lot of people drop dead from soupkill mechanics. In that context it might not be appropriate to remove TC's second life, because you'd rather actually get a mafia out of the game for parity reasons.

@sig You tinfoiled nutella earlier on the basis of NKA. What makes you think it's due to nutella orchestrating scum kills around her rather than a doc dodge? We have two docs and a bus driver, and scum failed to kill the first two nights (suggesting that they might have hit a healed target).
The more I think about it the only way it would work is if she was telling traitor, I mean there's a world where she is on the team and hard bussed, but that's more outsider her meta.

I just find it odd mafia, based off whom flipped wouldn't go to kill her or another big town read and instead just be picking off people who aren't posting as much.

I'd definitely not move to lynch nutella today though that would be rash.

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:34 am
by Alison
sig wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:33 am I just find it odd mafia, based off whom flipped wouldn't go to kill her or another big town read and instead just be picking off people who aren't posting as much.
Why is that odd, when we have 2 docs and a bus driver? How do you know nutella wasn't targeted and saved on the first two nights? This line of logic doesn't add up to me.

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:36 am
by sig
I could see lynching TC now so we don't have someone who's got an extra day hanging around in case things go south for town later.

Of course if he's a 3rd party with that qe just wasted a phase so it's a toss up.

Also and this just hit me it seems like the mafia is targeted CFC players at this point. The last two assumed mafia kills were thunal and Flanders both from CFC correct?

Could this have some bearing on leftover mafia members who is left from that site?

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:38 am
by sig
Alison wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:34 am
sig wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:33 am I just find it odd mafia, based off whom flipped wouldn't go to kill her or another big town read and instead just be picking off people who aren't posting as much.
Why is that odd, when we have 2 docs and a bus driver? How do you know nutella wasn't targeted and saved on the first two nights? This line of logic doesn't add up to me.
I'm kind of ignoring that as a factor, even if she was saved why wouldn't mafia hit her again?

Honestly this a very down the rabbit hole type discussion. I don't have any information to back this up or lead to this theory I was just throwing it out there to see what other people think.

I've been in so many TS games were we town core mafia and they just ride to the end. It hasn't ever been nutella, but she's been in enough/read those games that it was something I wanted to bring up.