The Syndicate

Nvm maybe she does like rondo kinda more

I dunno

Eh, [VOTE: Made] aubergine. I think I've explained a few reasons why I think this is better than RDB even if I still don't like that slot, but I would still like Ranmilia/Gira/ted to talk this over with me.

Voice in my head indeed doesn't like rondo but...I think this looks towny

Aaaaaaa

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:17 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:22 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:20 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:32 pm I'm here if people have questions or actual things to discuss. Bereft, where you at?

Who's your top town?

You/Rondo.

Omg Ily this let's me do my stupid plan maybe.

Me stupid plan is to form a 3 way masonry with you and rondo I think you're both lock town and will hard defend you to the death

Thoughts?

When WWA is alive

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 5:32 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:49 pm rondo's posts today are really not it at all but i'm sure if i reread his day 2 i'd remind myself of what i liked from him

Rondo's posts today are defending me who's town so I'd say his posts are more it than yours tbh

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 8:24 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 8:23 pm i kind of think we're misclearing rondo

Rondo is town I'm like... mostly kinda confident

Day after WWA is alive (+Gira compatibility)


and compare that to now. If you cant see why I see that as fucking sus. I dont know what to tell you

Didnt call me lock town, hmmmmm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:49 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:17 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:22 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:20 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:32 pm I'm here if people have questions or actual things to discuss. Bereft, where you at?

Who's your top town?

You/Rondo.

Omg Ily this let's me do my stupid plan maybe.

Me stupid plan is to form a 3 way masonry with you and rondo I think you're both lock town and will hard defend you to the death

Thoughts?

When WWA is alive

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 5:32 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:49 pm rondo's posts today are really not it at all but i'm sure if i reread his day 2 i'd remind myself of what i liked from him

Rondo's posts today are defending me who's town so I'd say his posts are more it than yours tbh

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 8:24 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 8:23 pm i kind of think we're misclearing rondo

Rondo is town I'm like... mostly kinda confident

Day after WWA is alive (+Gira compatibility)


and compare that to now. If you cant see why I see that as fucking sus. I dont know what to tell you

This is still "this person has changed their read on someone, isn't that terrible"

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:45 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:43 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:42 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:38 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:37 pm My main problem with RDB's "solving" is "this person changed their read on someone" is not strong enough evidence on its own; both alignments do this.

no its not a "they changed their read on me" that is underselling it. It is a never rescind (real). I policy this every game, every time, no passing go no $200

Than you'll policy town a lot

Sure, its the same as people policying for self voting yet people arent getting in a twist over that

If this is a shot at me i don't policy self vote anymore anyways lol

no at everyone who wanted to policy someone else who self voted this game. I forget who

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:49 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:17 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:22 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:20 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:32 pm I'm here if people have questions or actual things to discuss. Bereft, where you at?

Who's your top town?

You/Rondo.

Omg Ily this let's me do my stupid plan maybe.

Me stupid plan is to form a 3 way masonry with you and rondo I think you're both lock town and will hard defend you to the death

Thoughts?

When WWA is alive

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 5:32 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:49 pm rondo's posts today are really not it at all but i'm sure if i reread his day 2 i'd remind myself of what i liked from him

Rondo's posts today are defending me who's town so I'd say his posts are more it than yours tbh

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 8:24 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 8:23 pm i kind of think we're misclearing rondo

Rondo is town I'm like... mostly kinda confident

Day after WWA is alive (+Gira compatibility)


and compare that to now. If you cant see why I see that as fucking sus. I dont know what to tell you

So I slowly progressed from a lock town read to a less lock town read to a tinfoil read to full sus

And showed that progression over multiple days

And that's suspicious?

Rondo pls

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:47 pm Eh, [VOTE: Made] aubergine. I think I've explained a few reasons why I think this is better than RDB even if I still don't like that slot, but I would still like Ranmilia/Gira/ted to talk this over with me.

[VOTE: made ] aubergine

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:50 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:45 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:43 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:42 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:38 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:37 pm My main problem with RDB's "solving" is "this person changed their read on someone" is not strong enough evidence on its own; both alignments do this.

no its not a "they changed their read on me" that is underselling it. It is a never rescind (real). I policy this every game, every time, no passing go no $200

Than you'll policy town a lot

Sure, its the same as people policying for self voting yet people arent getting in a twist over that

If this is a shot at me i don't policy self vote anymore anyways lol

no at everyone who wanted to policy someone else who self voted this game. I forget who

Wasn't it you, or am I misremembering things?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:50 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:45 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:43 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:42 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:38 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:37 pm My main problem with RDB's "solving" is "this person changed their read on someone" is not strong enough evidence on its own; both alignments do this.

no its not a "they changed their read on me" that is underselling it. It is a never rescind (real). I policy this every game, every time, no passing go no $200

Than you'll policy town a lot

Sure, its the same as people policying for self voting yet people arent getting in a twist over that

If this is a shot at me i don't policy self vote anymore anyways lol

no at everyone who wanted to policy someone else who self voted this game. I forget who

Pretty sure that was me lol

I am happy for a 50/50 Ive taken them before and won

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:51 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:50 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:45 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:43 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:42 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:38 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:37 pm My main problem with RDB's "solving" is "this person changed their read on someone" is not strong enough evidence on its own; both alignments do this.

no its not a "they changed their read on me" that is underselling it. It is a never rescind (real). I policy this every game, every time, no passing go no $200

Than you'll policy town a lot

Sure, its the same as people policying for self voting yet people arent getting in a twist over that

If this is a shot at me i don't policy self vote anymore anyways lol

no at everyone who wanted to policy someone else who self voted this game. I forget who

Pretty sure that was me lol

Well, both of you I guess

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:51 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:50 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:45 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:43 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:42 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:38 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:37 pm My main problem with RDB's "solving" is "this person changed their read on someone" is not strong enough evidence on its own; both alignments do this.

no its not a "they changed their read on me" that is underselling it. It is a never rescind (real). I policy this every game, every time, no passing go no $200

Than you'll policy town a lot

Sure, its the same as people policying for self voting yet people arent getting in a twist over that

If this is a shot at me i don't policy self vote anymore anyways lol

no at everyone who wanted to policy someone else who self voted this game. I forget who

Wasn't it you, or am I misremembering things?

I did but people didnt call for my policy

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:51 pm I am happy for a 50/50 Ive taken them before and won

Although Made is almost certain to self-pres if nothing changes

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:50 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:49 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:17 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:22 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:20 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:32 pm I'm here if people have questions or actual things to discuss. Bereft, where you at?

Who's your top town?

You/Rondo.

Omg Ily this let's me do my stupid plan maybe.

Me stupid plan is to form a 3 way masonry with you and rondo I think you're both lock town and will hard defend you to the death

Thoughts?

When WWA is alive

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 5:32 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:49 pm rondo's posts today are really not it at all but i'm sure if i reread his day 2 i'd remind myself of what i liked from him

Rondo's posts today are defending me who's town so I'd say his posts are more it than yours tbh

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 8:24 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 8:23 pm i kind of think we're misclearing rondo

Rondo is town I'm like... mostly kinda confident

Day after WWA is alive (+Gira compatibility)


and compare that to now. If you cant see why I see that as fucking sus. I dont know what to tell you

This is still "this person has changed their read on someone, isn't that terrible"

fine, if you say I am being a fuckwit and not AbbiI will switch it to Leet/Ren/Abbi vs ted/gira/made

This is definitely nerve-wracking, it feels like town's win or loss will come down to what I do here. Still, I've been in this position before

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:50 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:49 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:17 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:22 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:20 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:32 pm I'm here if people have questions or actual things to discuss. Bereft, where you at?

Who's your top town?

You/Rondo.

Omg Ily this let's me do my stupid plan maybe.

Me stupid plan is to form a 3 way masonry with you and rondo I think you're both lock town and will hard defend you to the death

Thoughts?

When WWA is alive

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 5:32 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:49 pm rondo's posts today are really not it at all but i'm sure if i reread his day 2 i'd remind myself of what i liked from him

Rondo's posts today are defending me who's town so I'd say his posts are more it than yours tbh

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 8:24 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 8:23 pm i kind of think we're misclearing rondo

Rondo is town I'm like... mostly kinda confident

Day after WWA is alive (+Gira compatibility)


and compare that to now. If you cant see why I see that as fucking sus. I dont know what to tell you

So I slowly progressed from a lock town read to a less lock town read to a tinfoil read to full sus

And showed that progression over multiple days

And that's suspicious?

Rondo pls

You know what. Im tired and cranky

My legacy is Abby don't flashvote at LyLo. Though hopefully we'll never get to that point

I wish I could just drop phone number into thread and say text me if you need me but I am just going to bed and fuck it, what ever happens happens

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:29 pm Porscha what am I not seeing? You helped me see the light in KOTH

brother I get 10 posts with 20 words each / day - rough

possible wolves made/gira (maybe ted as +1)

I kinda think it's Gira ngl

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:56 pm I kinda think it's Gira ngl

Well, Gira is only ever wolves with Made so flip Made first

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:56 pm I kinda think it's Gira ngl

then fuckin vote me

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:58 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:56 pm I kinda think it's Gira ngl

Well, Gira is only ever wolves with Made so flip Made first

Sure

how's it going i've been enjoying a saturday not playing mafia

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:55 pm My legacy is Abby don't flashvote at LyLo. Though hopefully we'll never get to that point

i assume mechanically we're never going to have locked votes or majority

I won't be back

I have a thing I promised to do til 6 than I need to be with my girlfriend she needs me right now than I need to sleep than I need to work so

Good luck

had i known gira was this abrasive all game - wouldn't have tr'd him earlier today

made - undecided

last post

do we have a solved game if I die and flip town?

Made wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:09 pm do we have a solved game if I die and flip town?

If you will flip town, wouldn't you want to not die?

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

i read the last two pages in reverse, it's not rondo


i had a flash of uncertainty earlier on ted today but i went to read back on tsp's posts and i still think he is just town from that. i can re-check ted's iso but i highly doubt he is mafia at this point in time

i am—maybe unreasonably so— terribly afraid that i survive today (again), we have to flip me in lylo, and we lose

Made wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:09 pm do we have a solved game if I die and flip town?

Also, why the hell ain't you solving?

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:09 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:09 pm do we have a solved game if I die and flip town?

If you will flip town, wouldn't you want to not die?

transparently, im not sure. I don’t want to be a long term liability. my slot just feels murky—like to put it into perspective, i expected to be the flip today based on yesterday, and I could be, but the way we’re getting there scares me. like I would be a wonderful person to vig imo.

actually now i'm just wondering if rondo is shveling as much shit as possible into the thread now that i step back from being impressed by the volume of it

I also learned a little late that I got an extra vote today. I think based on today, Rondo looks really town. lemme see what additional dirt I can dig on gira. questions are welcome in the interim

Come to think of it, Gira's last-minute switch off Made D3 was weird. Maybe it was triggered by pyxxy's weird claim, but what if…?

in general my expectation is mafia in endgamee rarely hard align, their goal is to split the room, sometimes around a false dichotomy

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:21 pm Come to think of it, Gira's last-minute switch off Made D3 was weird. Maybe it was triggered by pyxxy's weird claim, but what if…?

Still, always flip Made over Gira

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:21 pm Come to think of it, Gira's last-minute switch off Made D3 was weird. Maybe it was triggered by pyxxy's weird claim, but what if…?

YOU DID THE SAME EXACT THING???

like yes of course i swapped because i saw a self pres-snipe and reacted on instinct, i don't think that's a hard towntell on my end but if i'm mafia i don't need to care about the wagons that much, if i'm bussing made i just stay on for cred

I kind of wonder if Made is a wolf, maybe they want to be bussed.

Gira wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:21 pm in general my expectation is mafia in endgamee rarely hard align, their goal is to split the room, sometimes around a false dichotomy

sorry to spray and pray a bit, but want this in writing just incase Im right: That’s why i think i might be right about a ted/gira. I don’t like the noncommittal nature of gira’s read on me/rondo either. It’s giving “okay so after we chop made, we chop rondo or vice versa”

Gira wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:23 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:21 pm Come to think of it, Gira's last-minute switch off Made D3 was weird. Maybe it was triggered by pyxxy's weird claim, but what if…?

YOU DID THE SAME EXACT THING???

like yes of course i swapped because i saw a self pres-snipe and reacted on instinct, i don't think that's a hard towntell on my end but if i'm mafia i don't need to care about the wagons that much, if i'm bussing made i just stay on for cred

pyxxy was already condemned when I made the switch.

Made wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:27 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:21 pm in general my expectation is mafia in endgamee rarely hard align, their goal is to split the room, sometimes around a false dichotomy

sorry to spray and pray a bit, but want this in writing just incase Im right: That’s why i think i might be right about a ted/gira. I don’t like the noncommittal nature of gira’s read on me/rondo either. It’s giving “okay so after we chop made, we chop rondo or vice versa”

i am not arguing that?? wtf

yes' i'm going back and forth because i'm uncertain but i have actively been TRYING to investgate people outside you and rondo where half the game seems hung up on you today


my difficulty with you has been that a lot of the time it's been very hard to figure out what your actual thoughts/analysis are on the game, if you could make that clearer i think that'd be helpful.

Gira wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:50 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:49 pm i guess it's possible ted has figured out the exact right buttons to push to get me to think he's town but he'd be playing a really really good game if so

n other words i think it's incredibly unlikely and would only re-evaluate if the game goes long and he's still alive. to be clear.

@Gira do you still feel this way? i control-f ted in your iso, and this the most direct read I could find.

[VOTE: ted] aubergine

idgaf

if people are hung up on me/ted being maf then kill one of us

Made wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:34 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:50 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:49 pm i guess it's possible ted has figured out the exact right buttons to push to get me to think he's town but he'd be playing a really really good game if so

n other words i think it's incredibly unlikely and would only re-evaluate if the game goes long and he's still alive. to be clear.

@Gira do you still feel this way? i control-f ted in your iso, and this the most direct read I could find.

i think half the time i've refereed to him as insomnia

but this was my most recent post on him:

Gira wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:09 pm [VOTE: Made] aubergine

i read the last two pages in reverse, it's not rondo


i had a flash of uncertainty earlier on ted today but i went to read back on tsp's posts and i still think he is just town from that. i can re-check ted's iso but i highly doubt he is mafia at this point in time

Gira wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:32 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:27 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:21 pm in general my expectation is mafia in endgamee rarely hard align, their goal is to split the room, sometimes around a false dichotomy

sorry to spray and pray a bit, but want this in writing just incase Im right: That’s why i think i might be right about a ted/gira. I don’t like the noncommittal nature of gira’s read on me/rondo either. It’s giving “okay so after we chop made, we chop rondo or vice versa”

i am not arguing that?? wtf

yes' i'm going back and forth because i'm uncertain but i have actively been TRYING to investgate people outside you and rondo where half the game seems hung up on you today


my difficulty with you has been that a lot of the time it's been very hard to figure out what your actual thoughts/analysis are on the game, if you could make that clearer i think that'd be helpful.

in a tweet:
it’d be weird if there were one scum or three left so assume two.
combo that make sense to me:
-Abigail x leetic (which if it is them well done, amazing play)
- ted/gira

Im having trouble imaginging rondo with anyone else alive, and that, plus his tsp vote, plus his post today makes him look green af

so it really has to be you and Ted at this point. I could ofc be wrong, but that is my thoughts/anaylsis of the thread.

at the moment im reading for connections between ted and gira to see if there anything there clearing.


also ted, I played scum with you recentlyish right?