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Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:42 am
by sig
So towny hasn't posted since D0
Joe hasn't contributed anything
LC is claimed 3rd party and best ignored

That's all the living socks.

Tuutuu, NIK, and KZA are the last living CFC players.

KZA and Tuutuu claimed, NIK hasn't.

Now I'm going to assume mafia has a way to find out dead roles just so they can then claim them. Which would cast some claims in doubt, but that would be a case by case basis.

Why did we just stop talking about NIK?

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:45 am
by sig
I don't want to lynch TH since I like them. That's about all I can say for their defense

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:47 am
by sig
But having said that was Myo even around EOD to use her mayor power?

If I was going to fake claim in this game I'd either go for mayor, Leroy, or secret role so I'm a bit iffy.

Nova having tracking results isn't good especially considering what TH claimed.

So I could honestly see a TH lynch, but also think we need to deal with TC before it's too late.

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:22 am
by tutuu
Alison wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:06 am Basically, even if TC is mafia, the diff between exeing TC and exeing TC's teammate is that exeing TC's teammate makes it a lot harder to lose to a masskill.
Its the same tbh since he vanishes for a day and night

If we assume hes mafia and only 1 maf buddy remaining

Yeet th > go to night > start next day, wake up to a mass kill, but th has vanished (i assume wont count for parity). So 1 maf remaining. Yeet that, th returns, yeet

Otherwise

Yeet maf buddy > go to night > start next day, wake up to a night kill> only 1 maf remaining (th). And proceed as usual

A downside is if we leave th to be the very very last scum we yeet. If we do that, after we take his first life, we wont yeet scum (cuz there are none) while we wait on the day he has vanished. Altho i guess thats ok, he will disappear anyway and probably wont be able to kill at night so maybe we dont lose anything in this scenario

So probbaly the result is the same as long as we yeet mafia

Unless th doesnt completely leave the game when he vanishes, only then it matters

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:22 am
by tutuu
Replace th with thundercat

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:43 am
by sig
Is it safe to assume the traitor doesn't count to their total still?

I'd think the secret would have something to do with them joining the mafia for real.

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:04 am
by Alison
sig wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:38 am
Alison wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:34 am
sig wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:33 am I just find it odd mafia, based off whom flipped wouldn't go to kill her or another big town read and instead just be picking off people who aren't posting as much.
Why is that odd, when we have 2 docs and a bus driver? How do you know nutella wasn't targeted and saved on the first two nights? This line of logic doesn't add up to me.
I'm kind of ignoring that as a factor, even if she was saved why wouldn't mafia hit her again?

Honestly this a very down the rabbit hole type discussion. I don't have any information to back this up or lead to this theory I was just throwing it out there to see what other people think.

I've been in so many TS games were we town core mafia and they just ride to the end. It hasn't ever been nutella, but she's been in enough/read those games that it was something I wanted to bring up.
It's relevant because one of the docs is Seraph Knight, who heals the same person every night. So it would make sense for mafia to stay away from someone they've failed to kill once because that person could be SK'd.

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:05 am
by Alison
tutuu wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:22 am
Alison wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:06 am Basically, even if TC is mafia, the diff between exeing TC and exeing TC's teammate is that exeing TC's teammate makes it a lot harder to lose to a masskill.
Its the same tbh since he vanishes for a day and night

If we assume hes mafia and only 1 maf buddy remaining

Yeet th > go to night > start next day, wake up to a mass kill, but th has vanished (i assume wont count for parity). So 1 maf remaining. Yeet that, th returns, yeet

Otherwise

Yeet maf buddy > go to night > start next day, wake up to a night kill> only 1 maf remaining (th). And proceed as usual

A downside is if we leave th to be the very very last scum we yeet. If we do that, after we take his first life, we wont yeet scum (cuz there are none) while we wait on the day he has vanished. Altho i guess thats ok, he will disappear anyway and probably wont be able to kill at night so maybe we dont lose anything in this scenario

So probbaly the result is the same as long as we yeet mafia

Unless th doesnt completely leave the game when he vanishes, only then it matters
Doesn't TC choose someone else to vanish too?

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:16 am
by sig
O.o duh Sig, true that could be a possibility

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 12:10 pm
by Joe Who?
sig wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:42 am Joe hasn't contributed anything
:dark:

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 12:51 pm
by Kylemii
Turnip Head wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:35 amHi Kyle
hi

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 12:57 pm
by Kylemii
this game has been surprisingly pogged considering how little of standard mafia gameplay applies to it.

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 12:58 pm
by Kylemii
we've been able to do 0 teammate analysis and never will. cases are pretty much impossible and mechanics have taken a front seat and yet still every day there's someone with a shocking truth.

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 12:59 pm
by Kylemii
would Myo have been around to send in a lynch stop?

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 1:14 pm
by Thundercat
sig wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:42 am So towny hasn't posted since D0
Joe hasn't contributed anything
LC is claimed 3rd party and best ignored

That's all the living socks.

Tuutuu, NIK, and KZA are the last living CFC players.

KZA and Tuutuu claimed, NIK hasn't.

Now I'm going to assume mafia has a way to find out dead roles just so they can then claim them. Which would cast some claims in doubt, but that would be a case by case basis.

Why did we just stop talking about NIK?
Townie => Nanook. They stopped socking.

I thought Joe was the GD based on what nutella said a few days ago, until LC was revealed today. But that's off the table, so Joe's a possible scum now.

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 1:16 pm
by Thundercat
tutuu wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:00 am Man i dont believe thundercat is survivor thats just lame and the host doesnt seem to like lame roles

There are 5 non towns but LC is townsiding and mafia traitor doesnt count for parity

So rly there are de facto 3 anti-town members for the purposes of parity

I think thundercat is the obliterator and we need him dead at some point anyway, we will need to double yeet him at some point, so might as well now. Dunno
Your definition of lame =/= the hosts's definition of lame or your perception of the setup of the game though.

I have reasons not to expound on my role more than I have.

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 1:20 pm
by 112
[VOTE: Turnip Head] aubergine

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 1:33 pm
by 112
big brains vote for turnip

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 1:37 pm
by 112
Thundercat wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 1:16 pm
tutuu wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:00 am Man i dont believe thundercat is survivor thats just lame and the host doesnt seem to like lame roles

There are 5 non towns but LC is townsiding and mafia traitor doesnt count for parity

So rly there are de facto 3 anti-town members for the purposes of parity

I think thundercat is the obliterator and we need him dead at some point anyway, we will need to double yeet him at some point, so might as well now. Dunno
Your definition of lame =/= the hosts's definition of lame or your perception of the setup of the game though.

I have reasons not to expound on my role more than I have.
what's your wincon?

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 1:39 pm
by Thundercat
112 wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 1:37 pm
Thundercat wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 1:16 pm
tutuu wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:00 am Man i dont believe thundercat is survivor thats just lame and the host doesnt seem to like lame roles

There are 5 non towns but LC is townsiding and mafia traitor doesnt count for parity

So rly there are de facto 3 anti-town members for the purposes of parity

I think thundercat is the obliterator and we need him dead at some point anyway, we will need to double yeet him at some point, so might as well now. Dunno
Your definition of lame =/= the hosts's definition of lame or your perception of the setup of the game though.

I have reasons not to expound on my role more than I have.
what's your wincon?
Yeet everyone who asks what my wincon is

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 1:41 pm
by sig
Thundercat wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 1:14 pm
sig wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:42 am So towny hasn't posted since D0
Joe hasn't contributed anything
LC is claimed 3rd party and best ignored

That's all the living socks.

Tuutuu, NIK, and KZA are the last living CFC players.

KZA and Tuutuu claimed, NIK hasn't.

Now I'm going to assume mafia has a way to find out dead roles just so they can then claim them. Which would cast some claims in doubt, but that would be a case by case basis.

Why did we just stop talking about NIK?
Townie => Nanook. They stopped socking.

I thought Joe was the GD based on what nutella said a few days ago, until LC was revealed today. But that's off the table, so Joe's a possible scum now.
rip thanks.

Yea and if Joe is scum I'd kick myself that they could win just by posting well nothing

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 1:41 pm
by sig
Like we've lynched real epi for this and other weirdness on D1 before

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 1:42 pm
by sig
[VOTE: th] aubergine :shrug:

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 1:51 pm
by 112
the only way turnip isn't scum is if the bus driver redirected nanook/his target or if nanook is lying

or if the maf secret role has something to do with target-switching

turnip head, what do you say?

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:04 pm
by nutella
sig wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:36 am I could see lynching TC now so we don't have someone who's got an extra day hanging around in case things go south for town later.

Of course if he's a 3rd party with that qe just wasted a phase so it's a toss up.

Also and this just hit me it seems like the mafia is targeted CFC players at this point. The last two assumed mafia kills were thunal and Flanders both from CFC correct?

Could this have some bearing on leftover mafia members who is left from that site?
No thunal isn't from cdc

Youre sure going down a lot of bizarre tinfoil rabbit holes my dude

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:04 pm
by nutella
sig wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:38 am
Alison wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:34 am
sig wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:33 am I just find it odd mafia, based off whom flipped wouldn't go to kill her or another big town read and instead just be picking off people who aren't posting as much.
Why is that odd, when we have 2 docs and a bus driver? How do you know nutella wasn't targeted and saved on the first two nights? This line of logic doesn't add up to me.
I'm kind of ignoring that as a factor, even if she was saved why wouldn't mafia hit her again?

Honestly this a very down the rabbit hole type discussion. I don't have any information to back this up or lead to this theory I was just throwing it out there to see what other people think.

I've been in so many TS games were we town core mafia and they just ride to the end. It hasn't ever been nutella, but she's been in enough/read those games that it was something I wanted to bring up.
Dude read the seraph knight role lmao.

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:05 pm
by nutella
sig wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:42 am So towny hasn't posted since D0
Joe hasn't contributed anything
LC is claimed 3rd party and best ignored

That's all the living socks.

Tuutuu, NIK, and KZA are the last living CFC players.

KZA and Tuutuu claimed, NIK hasn't.

Now I'm going to assume mafia has a way to find out dead roles just so they can then claim them. Which would cast some claims in doubt, but that would be a case by case basis.

Why did we just stop talking about NIK?
Jesus christ man I swear you haven't read shit how are you this out of the loop

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:06 pm
by nutella
Tutuu also isn't cdc (cfc is a diff site entirely btw)

Towny is nook he's been posting on his main since d1 sprit just forgot to edit the poll list

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:09 pm
by nutella
Guys I still think th and nook can both be telling the truth and there was just a busdrive or w/e

Lets just chop sig

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:10 pm
by nutella
Also yeah p certain thundercat is 3p and tutuu's reason for doubting that is weak and silly. U silly tutuu

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:12 pm
by Alison
I think mafia TC just claims survivor there and tries to pocket nutella or something. "I'm not claiming my win con" = "I'm 3P with some out of the box wincon, I haven't fulfilled it yet and I don't want you to know what it is so you don't steer away from it"

Out of the box win con would also explain the "boring" role, and TC not being mafia would explain the very rapid pileup on them

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:13 pm
by Alison
yeah I'm with nutella here I think.

I'm also mulling over the possibility of NIK being the traitor but traitor doesn't count towards mafia members so I'm fairly sure we should NIK leave alone regardless

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:15 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Kylemii wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 12:58 pm we've been able to do 0 teammate analysis and never will. cases are pretty much impossible and mechanics have taken a front seat and yet still every day there's someone with a shocking truth.
Mechanics are great

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:16 pm
by Alison
[VOTE: sig] aubergine

I tend towards thinking TC is 3P, and I think nook/TH will self resolve (I have a specific reason to believe this but probably anti town to say what it is).

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:17 pm
by Turnip Head
What are the facts on siggy boi?

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:19 pm
by nutella
Turnip Head wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:17 pm What are the facts on siggy boi?
he softed lost wolf lmao

and is generally p wolfy

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:22 pm
by Turnip Head
Thanks I'll take a looksee

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:23 pm
by Alison
Probably the strongest reason for scumreading sig is that he tried to stir up suspicion against nutella even after acknowledging that she can only be scum if she's the traitor, since it doesn't make any sense from a town POV to want to kill the traitor here when it doesn't count towards parity.

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:25 pm
by nutella
I still don't believe traitor doesn't count, the fuck does "aligned with the mafia" mean then

Like obv we need them dead, more so than a 3p survivor I'd assume

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:25 pm
by nutella
Like do we wi woth traitor alive and they just lose? That would be extremely silly

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:25 pm
by nutella
*win with

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:27 pm
by Kylemii
I am inclined to think that TH is town, because I love them.

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:27 pm
by Kylemii
the facts do not matter

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:28 pm
by Alison
nutella wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:25 pm I still don't believe traitor doesn't count, the fuck does "aligned with the mafia" mean then

Like obv we need them dead, more so than a 3p survivor I'd assume
I can't think of any reasonable interpretation of "does not count towards mafia total" other than it doesn't help them reach parity

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:29 pm
by Kylemii
(also TH/Myo would be a reasonable target for bus shenanigans, but wait how do we know there was a busdriver active again? was it the demon thing or the actual role)

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:33 pm
by nutella
Kylemii wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:29 pm (also TH/Myo would be a reasonable target for bus shenanigans, but wait how do we know there was a busdriver active again? was it the demon thing or the actual role)
martin's role. he would have had a busdrive last night go through before he died

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:34 pm
by nutella
Alison wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:28 pm
nutella wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:25 pm I still don't believe traitor doesn't count, the fuck does "aligned with the mafia" mean then

Like obv we need them dead, more so than a 3p survivor I'd assume
I can't think of any reasonable interpretation of "does not count towards mafia total" other than it doesn't help them reach parity
But like... do we actually not need them dead then

That makes so little sense to me

And I think that's what sig is so if you think we don't need him dead help me figure out the pack wolves

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:34 pm
by nutella
112 maybe lol?

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:36 pm
by 112
nutella wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:34 pm112 maybe lol?
nope :pout:

Re: Shadow Corridors Mafia [DAY 5] The Demon Rises

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:36 pm
by Kylemii
okay well there you go