Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 4]
Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 1:02 pm
remember when we thought all the m named players was mafia.
except for mog it's just been Mac so far
except for mog it's just been Mac so far
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
Counterpoint: wolves love to give mechanical advice that is of questionable usefulness because it’s mostly obvious and doesn’t lead to catching wolvesScotty wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 10:32 amThis is the towniest post you’ve made in the past few daysTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 2:27 amWe need to quit talking about the SK...that apparently takes nights off. Gav calling me the 3P is mostly funny, but people who might be taken seriously, like you, need to consider that the wolves have two artifacts now. That means they have the vote power aspect, plus a bonus for having two. The Mace of Molag Ball is theoretically powerful enough to make a single player into a viable faction. Does this sound like something we really want the wolves to get hold of? Along with whatever added bonus yet another artifact gets them?
Stop talking about artifacts and third parties.
Do NOT press for claims on what shrine people went to. Notice that Mac had a "was there an artifact at shrine X? power. We do not know what night he used that power or what shrine he targeted. Molag Ball dude so NOT say anything about what shrines you have visited. If townies try to press it out of you...well, town will willage. Sorry.
But I want him to explain my meta to me.Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:03 pm
This is the post where I started to scumread Tim.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 4:20 pmSo I just read through your ISO as promised.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 4:09 pmBut I didn't just say "that doesn't make sense". I put in the effort to explain exactly what didn't make sense and why it doesn't make sense in hopes that you could clarify that. This is not the same as just saying "that doesn't make sense, explain again".Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 4:05 pmI want to take this moment to point out that I am a jerk, but not a complete jerk. If you ask a specific question I will almost always answer to the best of my ability. "Questions" of the form "that doesn't make sense" aren't really questions, they are statements that mostly amount to "please repeat yourself" and I just...don't.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 4:02 pmOkay, fair. Thanks for clarifying.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 4:01 pmI've been down that road with TSP before, and a whole lot of people told me "yeah not helping you press TSP because it won't work, but good luck." Many of those players are in this game, so I am not going to waste my time trying to mount pressure on TSP here, when TSP is literally doing what TSP always does.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 3:51 pmSince working with you is like pulling teeth, let me ask more specific questions since you don't want to help.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 3:42 pm
Primarily the difference is exactly what I said in the post you just quoted.
Is it specifically that pressuring TSP will just get blown off? If this is the case, how do you feel about the effect you've had on Made thus far? If that isn't the case, can you please at least try to play well with others and clarify on the difference?
Made has blown me off so far, but there is no predisposition in the player list to just let him get away with it, and he is not in his regular position so I expect a wagon on him as EoD approaches will get his attention.
Part one was "I am a wolf hahaha." Included in it was someone calling you out and being sniped back with a totally false claim about your "read density." For the record at that point you had nine posts and basically none of them called for being taken seriously. There was one hilariously convoluted thing that ended in Nanook being a wolf that you took no action so your actual "read density" when you made that defensive claim was basically zero.
That part ended with the rainbow list, which you have done nothing with. You were asked one question, by me, and from that point on very close to every post you have made has fit firmly in the "wah wah Tim won't help me solve him, he must be a wolf" mold. You have done apparently nothing to solve any of the other 22 slots available.
And now out of the blue you have ISO'd Falcon and come away with reasons to vote him that you aren't sharing.
Can you give me any reason not to vote you when I am done pressing on Made, assuming he doesn't just out himself as a wolf?
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 7:59 pmMore than just bad, tbh.Syn wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 7:58 pmok this is a bad readJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 7:57 pm I townread Mac and LC for the stupid reason they chaosed themselves and that’s what I expect town them to do. Idk what I expect from wolf them. Mac seems in his town meta anyhow. Less sure on LC.
Look closer at Jack.
I must've missed this post upon my first reading. This looks alright. Especially since nobody else presented this sentiment based on the ISOs I've read. Granted, I haven't read the dead players, which I will get to later.Scotty wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 11:22 am Oh ffs I’ve been catching up slowly- just started pg 39 and will have to come back again. Good friend is getting married today so im hella distracted.
Something to mull over because as of pg 39 I haven’t seen it-
It is likely that one of the “leaders” of D1 town that weren’t Alison is a Wolf. I’m looking at first Mac and then Tim. I feel that Tim has been nothing but forthright on lots of things. Some call it TMI, I call it helpful.
Mac however has done nothing so much to garner super town status. In fact, his blunt attitude all of D1 and even now with his ailment (which I believe he isn’t faking btw) I feel like he’s just throwing out names to muddy up the thread.
In a vacuum, I’m looking again at BK as well. I disagree that we need to focus on Made and Gavial today. I think the wolves would like that. We may have to coagulate back there eventually, but right now Mac is my top thread leading scum read.
Because no one would suspect it.
[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine
I’ll be back much later (hopefully tonight) to continue reading and contribute when I can
It's in the way you ask questions and probe the game, your approach is def in your town meta. I mean, I guess you could be faking it, but I don't think that's the case here
This is towny MRMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 5:02 pmEh. We'll see. You don't feel right. Your push on me feels inauthentic considering you've recently wolfed with me and saw how I operate.
And this is towny MRMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 9:02 am I think your reasons on Daisy are valid. Like the questions but no follow up and apathy towards wagons are definite scum behavioural tendencies.
But when she and Jack were bickering earlier it was one of the few events of the game I've been somewhat present for, and it felt quite t/t to me. I felt like the frustration and omgusing had a delicate hint of genuineness to them.
So I dunno. Despite the logic, I'm not convinced.
More towny MRMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 5:04 amNot 0 slankers. Probably some.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 5:01 am if you think that in this game we have drawn a scumteam with 0 slankers you will need to explain what makes that rational?
history speaks to the contrary. If anything the fact that we have chopped two slanky poos and missed makes the slanky poo pool more rich with floaters.
But instead of firing blindly and lazily into the slanky pool let's do some actual work and find the active scum. And even if we miss we force said active scum to Do Stuff.
This...is an absolutely astonishing revelation never noted before in all the annals of mafiadom!!! This...THIS...is why Scotty is a legend!!!
Care to read Seanzie's ISO at that point and tell me what I was supposed to see other than what I said that I saw?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:30 pmThis is the post where I started to scumread Tim.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 4:20 pmSo I just read through your ISO as promised.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 4:09 pmBut I didn't just say "that doesn't make sense". I put in the effort to explain exactly what didn't make sense and why it doesn't make sense in hopes that you could clarify that. This is not the same as just saying "that doesn't make sense, explain again".Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 4:05 pmI want to take this moment to point out that I am a jerk, but not a complete jerk. If you ask a specific question I will almost always answer to the best of my ability. "Questions" of the form "that doesn't make sense" aren't really questions, they are statements that mostly amount to "please repeat yourself" and I just...don't.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 4:02 pmOkay, fair. Thanks for clarifying.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 4:01 pmI've been down that road with TSP before, and a whole lot of people told me "yeah not helping you press TSP because it won't work, but good luck." Many of those players are in this game, so I am not going to waste my time trying to mount pressure on TSP here, when TSP is literally doing what TSP always does.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 3:51 pm
Since working with you is like pulling teeth, let me ask more specific questions since you don't want to help.
Is it specifically that pressuring TSP will just get blown off? If this is the case, how do you feel about the effect you've had on Made thus far? If that isn't the case, can you please at least try to play well with others and clarify on the difference?
Made has blown me off so far, but there is no predisposition in the player list to just let him get away with it, and he is not in his regular position so I expect a wagon on him as EoD approaches will get his attention.
Part one was "I am a wolf hahaha." Included in it was someone calling you out and being sniped back with a totally false claim about your "read density." For the record at that point you had nine posts and basically none of them called for being taken seriously. There was one hilariously convoluted thing that ended in Nanook being a wolf that you took no action so your actual "read density" when you made that defensive claim was basically zero.
That part ended with the rainbow list, which you have done nothing with. You were asked one question, by me, and from that point on very close to every post you have made has fit firmly in the "wah wah Tim won't help me solve him, he must be a wolf" mold. You have done apparently nothing to solve any of the other 22 slots available.
And now out of the blue you have ISO'd Falcon and come away with reasons to vote him that you aren't sharing.
Can you give me any reason not to vote you when I am done pressing on Made, assuming he doesn't just out himself as a wolf?
It feels incredibly like a wolf accusing a townie and waiting to go “Well, he was super scummy and unreasonable. I tried to figure him out. Can’t blame me for his death.”
What bothered me about that read is that it is the kind of high level LAMIST play I know you are capable of.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:35 pmTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 7:59 pmMore than just bad, tbh.Syn wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 7:58 pmok this is a bad readJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 7:57 pm I townread Mac and LC for the stupid reason they chaosed themselves and that’s what I expect town them to do. Idk what I expect from wolf them. Mac seems in his town meta anyhow. Less sure on LC.
Look closer at Jack.
It’s not about Seanzie giving clues he was town and you not picking up on it.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:48 pmCare to read Seanzie's ISO at that point and tell me what I was supposed to see other than what I said that I saw?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:30 pmThis is the post where I started to scumread Tim.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 4:20 pmSo I just read through your ISO as promised.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 4:09 pmBut I didn't just say "that doesn't make sense". I put in the effort to explain exactly what didn't make sense and why it doesn't make sense in hopes that you could clarify that. This is not the same as just saying "that doesn't make sense, explain again".Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 4:05 pmI want to take this moment to point out that I am a jerk, but not a complete jerk. If you ask a specific question I will almost always answer to the best of my ability. "Questions" of the form "that doesn't make sense" aren't really questions, they are statements that mostly amount to "please repeat yourself" and I just...don't.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 4:02 pmOkay, fair. Thanks for clarifying.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 4:01 pm
I've been down that road with TSP before, and a whole lot of people told me "yeah not helping you press TSP because it won't work, but good luck." Many of those players are in this game, so I am not going to waste my time trying to mount pressure on TSP here, when TSP is literally doing what TSP always does.
Made has blown me off so far, but there is no predisposition in the player list to just let him get away with it, and he is not in his regular position so I expect a wagon on him as EoD approaches will get his attention.
Part one was "I am a wolf hahaha." Included in it was someone calling you out and being sniped back with a totally false claim about your "read density." For the record at that point you had nine posts and basically none of them called for being taken seriously. There was one hilariously convoluted thing that ended in Nanook being a wolf that you took no action so your actual "read density" when you made that defensive claim was basically zero.
That part ended with the rainbow list, which you have done nothing with. You were asked one question, by me, and from that point on very close to every post you have made has fit firmly in the "wah wah Tim won't help me solve him, he must be a wolf" mold. You have done apparently nothing to solve any of the other 22 slots available.
And now out of the blue you have ISO'd Falcon and come away with reasons to vote him that you aren't sharing.
Can you give me any reason not to vote you when I am done pressing on Made, assuming he doesn't just out himself as a wolf?
It feels incredibly like a wolf accusing a townie and waiting to go “Well, he was super scummy and unreasonable. I tried to figure him out. Can’t blame me for his death.”
This post comes from wolf!DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:02 pm remember when we thought all the m named players was mafia.
except for mog it's just been Mac so far
I literally call the read stupid. How is that LAMIST?Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:53 pmWhat bothered me about that read is that it is the kind of high level LAMIST play I know you are capable of.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:35 pmTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 7:59 pmMore than just bad, tbh.Syn wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 7:58 pmok this is a bad readJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 7:57 pm I townread Mac and LC for the stupid reason they chaosed themselves and that’s what I expect town them to do. Idk what I expect from wolf them. Mac seems in his town meta anyhow. Less sure on LC.
Look closer at Jack.
"Mac and LC chaosed themselves, and that's towny of them" leads to the unspoken "and Jack also chaosed so he's town too." Your post there wasn't just bad, it was sneaky, and that was the first time I really had "holy cow Jack might really be woofin' here" concerns. It was just about end of twilight, if I remember right, and I just wanted to make sure in case I somehow died that there was a "look at Jack" on the record in my ISO.
I think your a wolf because your vote is retarded.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:47 pm Imagine Tim is town. Wolf team would have to be exactly like....Monkey, Nacho, Falcon, LC.
I was pretty much joking there. It was a (hopefully) more clever way of saying "you are asking Gavial for reasons???"
Summarize for me what Mac did to Tim.Gavial wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:58 pmI think your a wolf because your vote is retarded.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:47 pm Imagine Tim is town. Wolf team would have to be exactly like....Monkey, Nacho, Falcon, LC.
Mac never does what they did to Tim if they are both wolf.
Read the previous posts from last day phase regarding Tim and Mac.
Tim can only be 3P or Town.
Mac may have gotten a 3P check on Tim.
Meaning his buddies maybe trying to still push and vote Tim and your current vote is on Tim which is very questionable.
I get accused of having TMI every game. Usually it is because I arrive at an obvious conclusion and say so, and an hour later when someone else arrives at the same obvious conclusion they are bothered that I got there faster.Vulgard wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:14 pm I'm wary of reading into Mac's spew because I know he's competent at this game. There's also the fact his ISO is almost all oneliners where he alternates between TRing and shade. It's a coinflip which of his partners he shaded, which he townread, and which he ignored. He definitely wasn't playing like someone with a plan to endgame, at least.
The reason I'm not clearing Tim is that he hasn't written anything that made me think "This man has no TMI." The fact he's discussed mechanics a lot is a part of that, although not wolfy by itself.
I need to go over Scotty's ISO with a fresh mind, one second.
Gladly.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 2:00 pmSummarize for me what Mac did to Tim.Gavial wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:58 pmI think your a wolf because your vote is retarded.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:47 pm Imagine Tim is town. Wolf team would have to be exactly like....Monkey, Nacho, Falcon, LC.
Mac never does what they did to Tim if they are both wolf.
Read the previous posts from last day phase regarding Tim and Mac.
Tim can only be 3P or Town.
Mac may have gotten a 3P check on Tim.
Meaning his buddies maybe trying to still push and vote Tim and your current vote is on Tim which is very questionable.
Nachomamma8 wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 12:01 pmI don't think you are mafia. I think that your approach to today has been lazy. And continues to be lazy. Why would I, I slanker scum, care about pushing Mac, the god of town?MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 11:59 amMe. Nacho is taking my mild doomsaying as confirmation I am mafia.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 11:58 amWho are you talking to in this post?Nachomamma8 wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 11:52 am I don't think your griping has had any effect on today. What will have an effect on today is finding a suspect and engaging them. Or talking about the big wagons for today - what do you think of my Marmot defense? Is Mog the wolf that we've been trying to find?
Nachomamma8 wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 12:08 pmI'll do my best!MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 12:01 pm anyway I just woke up at 2am to take a mid morning poo im going back to sleep. I expect Nacho will have strung up a wolf with his incisive cutting game theory based skill upon my return.
Nachomamma8 wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 2:38 pmGuess your vote's in the wrong place then!MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 2:37 pmIf Tim is town this is TMI.Nachomamma8 wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 2:35 pm And I am splendidly tilted when my top townread decides to follow Mac down a useless garden path because that usually means more will follow.
If Tim is wolf this is shield.
This is always wolf.
Because it "being stupid" wasn't enough to have you keep it out of the thread. That's the point. You put into people's heads "gosh maybe going chaos is towny...hmmm." In heads where that takes root you create a town read for yourself.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:56 pmI literally call the read stupid. How is that LAMIST?Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:53 pmWhat bothered me about that read is that it is the kind of high level LAMIST play I know you are capable of.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:35 pmTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 7:59 pmMore than just bad, tbh.Syn wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 7:58 pmok this is a bad readJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 7:57 pm I townread Mac and LC for the stupid reason they chaosed themselves and that’s what I expect town them to do. Idk what I expect from wolf them. Mac seems in his town meta anyhow. Less sure on LC.
Look closer at Jack.
"Mac and LC chaosed themselves, and that's towny of them" leads to the unspoken "and Jack also chaosed so he's town too." Your post there wasn't just bad, it was sneaky, and that was the first time I really had "holy cow Jack might really be woofin' here" concerns. It was just about end of twilight, if I remember right, and I just wanted to make sure in case I somehow died that there was a "look at Jack" on the record in my ISO.
I'm not accusing you of TMI. I'm saying you haven't proven you *don't* have it. You may still be able to do that if you are a villager.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 2:01 pmI get accused of having TMI every game. Usually it is because I arrive at an obvious conclusion and say so, and an hour later when someone else arrives at the same obvious conclusion they are bothered that I got there faster.Vulgard wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:14 pm I'm wary of reading into Mac's spew because I know he's competent at this game. There's also the fact his ISO is almost all oneliners where he alternates between TRing and shade. It's a coinflip which of his partners he shaded, which he townread, and which he ignored. He definitely wasn't playing like someone with a plan to endgame, at least.
The reason I'm not clearing Tim is that he hasn't written anything that made me think "This man has no TMI." The fact he's discussed mechanics a lot is a part of that, although not wolfy by itself.
I need to go over Scotty's ISO with a fresh mind, one second.
This makes me want to murder you.Vulgard wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:57 pm Alison wasn't killed for her reads. She scumread a lot of people we now know are town. I'm guessing it was the 3p's kill, possibly an SPK. I severely doubt a town vig pulling this kill on us when Alison wasn't even a wagon d1 (from my understanding of the game).
If there's anyone who was potentially killed for reads, it's Nanook. I'm guessing it was the wolves' kill.
Townreads:
Quin (flipped town)
Scotty (I read him town now too)
Enrique (my slot, I know I'm town)
Then townreads:
DaisyCloud (super V rebuttal to my case)
Made (peeked green by KZA, a flipped villager)
Seanzie (flipped town)
Falcon
Kylemii
Syn (flipped town)
Scumreads:
Tim (voteparked on him at EoD apparently, suggesting to me it's a wolfread)
Long Con (called his posting wolfy twice, although not super blatant)
Notably does not townread Mac at any point.
Comparing my reads to Nanook's, we agree on pretty much everything. The one exception is that he townreads Falcon and I don't. Our PoEs would end up pretty similar if I were to compare.
And he was the n1 kill; likely to have come from pack wolves, since Alison was wrong on several occasions.
This renews my confidence.
Question to rouse your mind, although I fear it's a fool's endeavor.Gavial wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 2:01 pm Like if scum can’t kill Tim they legit have to try and convince others to vote them despite Tim being overly Townie Minded.
Mac showed that he wanted to discredit Tim HARD.
So hard it cannot be partner aligned.
Mac clearly desperately wanted to get rid of Tim.
You would think why didn’t he just NK them instead of push them as hard as he did, well that’s because he couldn’t because Tim is SK.
Because I decided to backread the n1 kill, like any good villager should? I don't see where this reaction is coming from.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 2:08 pmThis makes me want to murder you.Vulgard wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:57 pm Alison wasn't killed for her reads. She scumread a lot of people we now know are town. I'm guessing it was the 3p's kill, possibly an SPK. I severely doubt a town vig pulling this kill on us when Alison wasn't even a wagon d1 (from my understanding of the game).
If there's anyone who was potentially killed for reads, it's Nanook. I'm guessing it was the wolves' kill.
Townreads:
Quin (flipped town)
Scotty (I read him town now too)
Enrique (my slot, I know I'm town)
Then townreads:
DaisyCloud (super V rebuttal to my case)
Made (peeked green by KZA, a flipped villager)
Seanzie (flipped town)
Falcon
Kylemii
Syn (flipped town)
Scumreads:
Tim (voteparked on him at EoD apparently, suggesting to me it's a wolfread)
Long Con (called his posting wolfy twice, although not super blatant)
Notably does not townread Mac at any point.
Comparing my reads to Nanook's, we agree on pretty much everything. The one exception is that he townreads Falcon and I don't. Our PoEs would end up pretty similar if I were to compare.
And he was the n1 kill; likely to have come from pack wolves, since Alison was wrong on several occasions.
This renews my confidence.
I'll add it into my busy schedule.Vulgard wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 2:08 pmI'm not accusing you of TMI. I'm saying you haven't proven you *don't* have it. You may still be able to do that if you are a villager.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 2:01 pmI get accused of having TMI every game. Usually it is because I arrive at an obvious conclusion and say so, and an hour later when someone else arrives at the same obvious conclusion they are bothered that I got there faster.Vulgard wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:14 pm I'm wary of reading into Mac's spew because I know he's competent at this game. There's also the fact his ISO is almost all oneliners where he alternates between TRing and shade. It's a coinflip which of his partners he shaded, which he townread, and which he ignored. He definitely wasn't playing like someone with a plan to endgame, at least.
The reason I'm not clearing Tim is that he hasn't written anything that made me think "This man has no TMI." The fact he's discussed mechanics a lot is a part of that, although not wolfy by itself.
I need to go over Scotty's ISO with a fresh mind, one second.
Well thought out psychobabble is not and has never been a thing I do as a wolf.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 2:07 pmBecause it "being stupid" wasn't enough to have you keep it out of the thread. That's the point. You put into people's heads "gosh maybe going chaos is towny...hmmm." In heads where that takes root you create a town read for yourself.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:56 pmI literally call the read stupid. How is that LAMIST?Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:53 pmWhat bothered me about that read is that it is the kind of high level LAMIST play I know you are capable of.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:35 pmTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 7:59 pmMore than just bad, tbh.Syn wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 7:58 pmok this is a bad readJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 7:57 pm I townread Mac and LC for the stupid reason they chaosed themselves and that’s what I expect town them to do. Idk what I expect from wolf them. Mac seems in his town meta anyhow. Less sure on LC.
Look closer at Jack.
"Mac and LC chaosed themselves, and that's towny of them" leads to the unspoken "and Jack also chaosed so he's town too." Your post there wasn't just bad, it was sneaky, and that was the first time I really had "holy cow Jack might really be woofin' here" concerns. It was just about end of twilight, if I remember right, and I just wanted to make sure in case I somehow died that there was a "look at Jack" on the record in my ISO.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 4:02 pm*shrugs* gotta serial kill somethinTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 4:01 pmWhy would a serial killer want to kill Syn?MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 3:59 pmMaybe they double stacked?Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 3:58 pm What is the deal with this SK idea. There was only one kill N2. Are we thinking there was a doc save?
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 3:59 pmYeah I solved the game. I was just waiting for you to get here so we could lead the successful kill together as the soulmates we are.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 3:57 pmMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 3:55 pmNo I decided to try to wagon you and bullied Scotty into sheeping and then pretended it was a reaction test when I decided to stop being a dumb dumb.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 3:53 pmThere's an SK?MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 3:48 pm @Timsup2nothin Gavial reckons he has a cop check on you that shows you as the SK tho.
Wait.
Gavail "red checked" me as a serial killer, and Scotty fucking bought it???
WTF has been going on here?I am...trying to decide which of these sounds crazier...but...sure.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 3:55 pm But the part about Gavial claiming to have a check on you as SK is true yes.
Has anything vaguely normal happened that I should know about before EoD?
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 3:55 pmNo I decided to try to wagon you and bullied Scotty into sheeping and then pretended it was a reaction test when I decided to stop being a dumb dumb.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 3:53 pmThere's an SK?MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 3:48 pm @Timsup2nothin Gavial reckons he has a cop check on you that shows you as the SK tho.
Wait.
Gavail "red checked" me as a serial killer, and Scotty fucking bought it???
WTF has been going on here?
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 2:41 pmOh right yeah ok.Gavial wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 2:40 pmTown of Salem version of Rolecop.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 2:39 pmwtf is consig?Gavial wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 2:38 pmTime to hard shield the SK.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 2:37 pmIf Tim is town this is TMI.Nachomamma8 wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 2:35 pm And I am splendidly tilted when my top townread decides to follow Mac down a useless garden path because that usually means more will follow.
If Tim is wolf this is shield.
This is always wolf.
I hard claim super fantastic role that has a Consig check from Mac that says Tim is SK and proof Mac is Consig.
Shut up.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 12:06 am the only person who seems to have conviction in this game is Tim
we're fucked
Let’s not also forgot he knows I’m right and he Consig checked Tim SK!MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 3:07 pm I think you need to calm down, review your worldview and layer it with rationality Gavial. As usual you are finding yourself in a situation where your reads make no sense to anyone but you and therefore even if there is accuracy to them they will just get ignored.
@Jackofhearts2005
Also, this is BS as he had the check!MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 3:48 pm @Timsup2nothin Gavial reckons he has a cop check on you that shows you as the SK tho.
No. It's because we came to entirely opposite conclusions in some places and I cannot let go of thinking I am obviously right so you must be faking.Vulgard wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 2:11 pmBecause I decided to backread the n1 kill, like any good villager should? I don't see where this reaction is coming from.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 2:08 pmThis makes me want to murder you.Vulgard wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:57 pm Alison wasn't killed for her reads. She scumread a lot of people we now know are town. I'm guessing it was the 3p's kill, possibly an SPK. I severely doubt a town vig pulling this kill on us when Alison wasn't even a wagon d1 (from my understanding of the game).
If there's anyone who was potentially killed for reads, it's Nanook. I'm guessing it was the wolves' kill.
Townreads:
Quin (flipped town)
Scotty (I read him town now too)
Enrique (my slot, I know I'm town)
Then townreads:
DaisyCloud (super V rebuttal to my case)
Made (peeked green by KZA, a flipped villager)
Seanzie (flipped town)
Falcon
Kylemii
Syn (flipped town)
Scumreads:
Tim (voteparked on him at EoD apparently, suggesting to me it's a wolfread)
Long Con (called his posting wolfy twice, although not super blatant)
Notably does not townread Mac at any point.
Comparing my reads to Nanook's, we agree on pretty much everything. The one exception is that he townreads Falcon and I don't. Our PoEs would end up pretty similar if I were to compare.
And he was the n1 kill; likely to have come from pack wolves, since Alison was wrong on several occasions.
This renews my confidence.