The Syndicate

What did your message say

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:15 am If Grogu targeted Sloonei and the only person who visited him was ChopChop and Sloonei died then like what more do we need to go on?

Also I thought ChopChop was going to target me last night?

You said you got RB’ed when trying to visit Alison so there’s no point because your visit didn’t go through.
Be nice if Grogu actually claimed.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:10 am What did your message say

I already posted it to Urist but here:
/Message Sloon

Congratulations!
You have won a Free Day Vig.
But ONLY and ONLY if you state all you have targeted during the nights in the public chat during today in this day phase.
IF and only IF you have target Alison you will receive an additional Day Vig.
BUT and only BUT if you vote Alison today, you will receive a Universal Janitor to go with it.

though honestly that's so crazy that it might be real

You have dayvigs to give out? ???

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:17 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:15 am If Grogu targeted Sloonei and the only person who visited him was ChopChop and Sloonei died then like what more do we need to go on?

Also I thought ChopChop was going to target me last night?

if grogu saw chopchop visit sloonei, it means chopchop didn't kill sloonei because grogu's ability cannot detect fatal actions

@Grogu
Explain!

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:32 am why does chop send a message to sloonei if town

Because I SR’ed Sloon and I wanted to see their reaction towards it and I need to target someone who targeted you or else my faction spy is useless.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:13 am You have dayvigs to give out? ???

No.
It’s a reaction test.

@Martin I can't explain my vote on rej but also I don't think I did vote for rej. That one post you called out is in the context of the one right after it

How do you expect to get reactions from that there's no role that can do that in the setup

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:58 am Oh I figured out who you are

Hi ds

Nope, I’m a guy that you decided to 1V1 in the game where you choose your 1V1’s because it is 4 Town Versus 3 Mafia.

ChopChop wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:15 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:13 am You have dayvigs to give out? ???

No.
It’s a reaction test.

I was gonna say, how is Tony still alive?

We had that game on Mafia451.
For some reason you had to choose me but luckily you scum slipped so I won that 1v1.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:50 am

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:34 am I still don't understand why there were 0 enclave voters on the chop wagon yesterday if chop is enclave.

Unless the entire enclave team decided to just vote Mac and hope nobody reads the vote count.

Made, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Alison, TonyStarkPrime, KZA
DaughterOfOmega

So you know that TSP, Nanook and KZA are not enclave how?

Also Made was voting there.

Or is it that you meant to say made wagon in which case

MartinGG99, Long Con, Kylemii, Jackofhearts2005, MacDougall, Sloonei, Marmot
Dom

So you know LC, Kyle, Jack, Mac, Marmot and Dom are not enclave how?

None of what you just said makes sense wot.

If KZA is Enclave I’ll shit my pants and quit FM.
I didn’t sign up for Bastard.

Usually when someone flips, it’s their actual role.

ChopChop wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:18 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:50 am

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:34 am I still don't understand why there were 0 enclave voters on the chop wagon yesterday if chop is enclave.

Unless the entire enclave team decided to just vote Mac and hope nobody reads the vote count.

Made, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Alison, TonyStarkPrime, KZA
DaughterOfOmega

So you know that TSP, Nanook and KZA are not enclave how?

Also Made was voting there.

Or is it that you meant to say made wagon in which case

MartinGG99, Long Con, Kylemii, Jackofhearts2005, MacDougall, Sloonei, Marmot
Dom

So you know LC, Kyle, Jack, Mac, Marmot and Dom are not enclave how?

None of what you just said makes sense wot.

If KZA is Enclave I’ll shit my pants and quit FM.
I didn’t sign up for Bastard.

i agree with this man

So Mac and Grogu are both saying they think ChopChop is scum for raisins, but they won't talk about those raisins, and we're going to believe them? Am I understanding this situation correctly?

[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:13 am though honestly that's so crazy that it might be real

Oh don’t try and use this post as an excuse after my flip.
I swear if you go “I had doubts at the end, my bad” and people actually leave you be. Ima lose my mind.

ChopChop wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:16 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:58 am Oh I figured out who you are

Hi ds

Nope, I’m a guy that you decided to 1V1 in the game where you choose your 1V1’s because it is 4 Town Versus 3 Mafia.

Oh yeah I remember that game

Hi seth

if chop flips town i dunno if everyone else could treat me any harsher than I would treat myself

I'm doing VCA leave me alone

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:23 am

ChopChop wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:16 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:58 am Oh I figured out who you are

Hi ds

Nope, I’m a guy that you decided to 1V1 in the game where you choose your 1V1’s because it is 4 Town Versus 3 Mafia.

Oh yeah I remember that game

Hi seth

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:20 am So Mac and Grogu are both saying they think ChopChop is scum for raisins, but they won't talk about those raisins, and we're going to believe them? Am I understanding this situation correctly?

[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

Actually I am not sure anymore. I was trying something but chop chop didn’t panic there. He might actually be town I guess, this game is hard.
Mac prob scum still. Not sure they are teamed

Some notes on methodology: my light greens are people who are I think either mostly cleared from one team or are town. These were determined before I started and I think they're consistent throughout. Everyone who's flipped I sorted by their color, Alison gets her own for "potential slaver", and everyone who has decent equity is what's left, no matter if they have just a little bit or if I think they're basically lock wolf.

DAY 1 FINAL:


DAY 2 FINAL:


DAY 3 FINAL:


First thoughts, I'll sleep on it and come up with more.

Day 1 count seems to support the claim that either enclave is holding back or are just not present. Still, I think one of those three light greens on Bo is probably enclave just by balance of probability. The Rej wagon looks damning for Marmot for similar reasons-- everyone else looks good and I'd expect one of something. But the all gone team has some appeal, and VC might be spread thin. Maybe only 2-3 members at start.

Day 2, hard to look at. Not enough intrigue. Too much Rej voting. A bad look for Kyle no matter Chop's alignment. We also lose all track of what VC is doing at this point, but my bold read from all three days is Dom VC, just from this.

Day 3: We've already gone over. I think it's a bad look for Chop on net -- it's hard to construct teams when chop is town, assuming the wolf team had a basic idea of what was going on. Not getting the sense they did. In which case, okay, anything's possible. Poison is at least a wolf option in most worlds with chop town or wolf.

Mostly nothing new.

is it just me or does the dark theme like make everything wide and bad

and the font colors aren't consistent

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:53 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:50 am

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:34 am I still don't understand why there were 0 enclave voters on the chop wagon yesterday if chop is enclave.

Unless the entire enclave team decided to just vote Mac and hope nobody reads the vote count.

Made, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Alison, TonyStarkPrime, KZA
DaughterOfOmega

So you know that TSP, Nanook and KZA are not enclave how?

Also Made was voting there.

Or is it that you meant to say made wagon in which case

MartinGG99, Long Con, Kylemii, Jackofhearts2005, MacDougall, Sloonei, Marmot
Dom

So you know LC, Kyle, Jack, Mac, Marmot and Dom are not enclave how?

None of what you just said makes sense wot.

KZA is flipped town.

Nanook red checked a flipped enclave.

If ChopChop is enclave then TSP is not enclave because they've been fighting way too harshly to be buddies.

Look this is all kinda reasonable I guess

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:53 am The thing that disturbs me about this game is the number of players I'd be ok voting off right now.

What's even more disturbing is that I'm not one of them

ChopChop wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:59 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:03 am I don't have a red check exactly. But I am like 70% sure it equates to a red check. And if you add Grogu's feels to it then...

What are you claiming?

I am a 1 shot claim checker. I checked your claim and it was fake.

ChopChop wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:05 am I thought maybe you were softing some sort of weird investigative role.
Like how can you be 70%?
Tracker?

Here’s my actions:
N1: Daisy - Message
N2: No One
N3: Sloon - Message

If you ever tracked me, these should be your results for the equivalent nights.

what about the other part of your role?

ChopChop wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:06 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:00 am @ChopChop you have hard claimed this role ay?

Luke

You command the Brotherhood outpost located at the NCR capital city. You're regarded with some suspicion by the locals who don't understand the importance of the Brotherhood mission.

You're a 2-shot messenger. One of your chief duties is to keep the Brotherhood command to the south appraised of NCR social and technological development. Twice during the game during any separate night phases, you may craft a personal message to be sent to a player you select through the host. The message can be anything.

Separately, you are a 1-shot faction spy. You keep a close eye on the NCR Rangers and their conflict with the Slavers to aid in your own mission. Once during the game during any night phase, you may select a player. You will be told whether or not that player has ever targeted the Slaver during any previous night phase.

Yes I only have Faction Spy left.
Ya target Alison by any chance?

I already told you that I did

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:13 am though honestly that's so crazy that it might be real

yeah it probably is and I probably just misinterpreted something

my bad

so that means TSP is mafia

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:20 am So Mac and Grogu are both saying they think ChopChop is scum for raisins, but they won't talk about those raisins, and we're going to believe them? Am I understanding this situation correctly?

[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

Why are you voting for someone that you don't want to vote off?

TSP is seriously very mafia in this game though.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:37 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:20 am So Mac and Grogu are both saying they think ChopChop is scum for raisins, but they won't talk about those raisins, and we're going to believe them? Am I understanding this situation correctly?

[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

Why are you voting for someone that you don't want to vote off?

Because I'm confused.

What alignment is that

I don't want to dig through them all to find it tbh

I don't understand what you're claiming Joe or if you're actually claiming anything but that may have something to do with the sleep deprivation

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 4:24 am I don't understand what you're claiming Joe or if you're actually claiming anything but that may have something to do with the sleep deprivation

I retract it at any rate

We're almost there.

That post was not for this game sorry.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:19 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:15 pm did choppy ever end up sending a second message? lol

He says to sloonei

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:52 pm my interactions with doom / made kind of confirm me as nonclave though

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:43 am That post was not for this game sorry.

What was it for?

[VOTE: Chop] aubergine

Other game in progress.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:23 am

ChopChop wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:16 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:58 am Oh I figured out who you are

Hi ds

Nope, I’m a guy that you decided to 1V1 in the game where you choose your 1V1’s because it is 4 Town Versus 3 Mafia.

Oh yeah I remember that game

Hi seth

Oh nooooooooooo

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:54 am Other game in progress.

Gotcha.

I don't know the case against Tony. Is it all counter claim-y to the chop stuff?

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:55 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:23 am

ChopChop wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:16 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:58 am Oh I figured out who you are

Hi ds

Nope, I’m a guy that you decided to 1V1 in the game where you choose your 1V1’s because it is 4 Town Versus 3 Mafia.

Oh yeah I remember that game

Hi seth

Oh nooooooooooo

I did say we were among royalty so I'm gonna say I was half correct

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:35 am

ChopChop wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:59 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:03 am I don't have a red check exactly. But I am like 70% sure it equates to a red check. And if you add Grogu's feels to it then...

What are you claiming?

I am a 1 shot claim checker. I checked your claim and it was fake.

Thought that might have been what your claiming but
I didn’t see that role in any of the rolecards.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:35 am

ChopChop wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:59 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:03 am I don't have a red check exactly. But I am like 70% sure it equates to a red check. And if you add Grogu's feels to it then...

What are you claiming?

I am a 1 shot claim checker. I checked your claim and it was fake.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:36 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:13 am though honestly that's so crazy that it might be real

yeah it probably is and I probably just misinterpreted something

my bad

Mind blown.

Grogu wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:35 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:20 am So Mac and Grogu are both saying they think ChopChop is scum for raisins, but they won't talk about those raisins, and we're going to believe them? Am I understanding this situation correctly?

[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

Actually I am not sure anymore. I was trying something but chop chop didn’t panic there. He might actually be town I guess, this game is hard.
Mac prob scum still. Not sure they are teamed

Oh no, you were quite confident.
“100%”
Why don’t you spit it out!