The Syndicate

Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:44 pm Okay, so martin is really really REALLY far off. And now I’m scared he’s town.

Ik you’re low on post, but Martin, if I’m town, who is bad here and why?

Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:42 pm Also, I was dumb enough to think Nanook was lying about tie mechanics sooo, I really didn’t care about ties till Lc brought it up.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:42 am

chardonnay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06, 2021 1:24 am D1 Speed chuck was hard to figure out since I thought the thing about copping Tony's partner just seemed like a joke, but i did want him to out the result for curiosity. He backed off later and said it was a post restriction thing. I did take his word at face value, and didnt press it since i didnt see it as particularly useful info to pick at.

I think post restrictions should be treated as non-AI this game. Not sure if i have said that already.

I do think that Speed tying up the votes is probably the singerly most scummy thing he has done this game. Like, its scummy wheather or not Marmot turns out to be scum. Giving mafia the chance to choose who to shoot means they can build WIFOM on a player that was garnering suspicion, (Marmot in this case).

Really only argument i can think of for town doing this is not knowing better, I dont have the experince w/ Speed to know if town them makes a mistake like that.

So yes, i do scum lean Speed.

chardonnay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06, 2021 1:35 am Tony SR was fueled by spinning non-ai things about me as if they were scummy.

Just seemed like he was saying things for the sake of putting reads out there, but not really thinking about it in a slovely way. If that makes sense.

Of course im not very familiar with Tony, so there could be method to the madness.

Sort by character count become WW expert?

Char puts almost zero thought into this read on me, puts paragraphs in on Speed, and still inexplicably has a bloodlust for the groundhog

Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:55 pm But his vote is on speed. That’s weird.

Martin, when did you decided speedchuck was not the way?

Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:20 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:14 pm @Made Do you hard townread speedchuck because the wagon looks to easy? Or the other way around? Or are those two separate reads.

I town read cuz he thought he had a red peak, and the wagon looked too easy. I feel like I wouldn’t be the first person making this argument if he weren’t town, cuz it’s a fairly easy argument to make in good faith as chuck’s teammate.

Given, I was mistaken and the end of the day wasn’t yesterday, so I’m more comfortable putting faith in the deep than the easy get out of jail

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:42 pm Honestly @Long Con I get the feeling one of us is likely to get shot tonight.

I think both of us are possibly quite difficult to delete from a scum perspective, and if one of is scum, or someone else is scum and wants to paint that picture, then one of us probably dies anyways or gets shot.

On the off-chance it is you who gets shot, I would encourage you to post how you feel/thinking/read about anyone else before night 2 ends.

Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:19 pm Fwiw, I’m pretty sure I’m dead here by wagonomics. If Anyone switches off of me, Lc switches to me, GG. Even if he doesn’t, I don’t see Martin switching off of me, and even if Martin is town, then there is definitely at least one baddie on me who is incentivize not to move.

If I am to point something out tho that might save me is the fact that everyone’s voting me, I don’t think I’ve been scummy enough to justify that.

Like if char were here, they’d almost deff vote me too. Ain’t that weird

Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:22 pm To put it another way, if I’m bad, who is busing me? Like who is even positioned to do so? Chuck? If me and chuck are bad then D1 was the kind of derp I aspire to

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 10:35 pm Man the baddies are really coming out of the woodwork to jump on lil old me.

You guys have grievances you wanna talk about? Those would be good.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06, 2021 7:18 pm Jeez I forgot this game existed for like 24 hours.

To respond to the question someone asked, I'm vanilla at the moment. Maybe that changes, maybe I have an ability and don't know what it is, but right now I'm vanilla.

This game doesn't feel very bastard. I was honestly expecting a clusterfuck and here we are actually solving at things.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06, 2021 7:22 pm Don't know anything about Martin's meta but I'm inclined to disagree with LC a little.

The "Yeah you think I'm scum but for dumb reasons and I am indignant about those reasons" thing isn't universal. It's something some players do, but I'm not one of them. I don't like the 'I'm a high poster' defense, but I could see a town person making it.

It's still sus for him not to break the tie on D1, but I don't see a scum motive for doing it either.

Martin could be scum. He's a little overdefensive, but I think the self-righteous defense rings genuine. It's like he got obsessed with the tunnel and was building up for an 'I told you so' if he flips.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06, 2021 7:26 pm

chardonnay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06, 2021 2:07 am Oh yeah, Made exudes town looking paranoia several times this game. Expressing concerns over things that I dont think mafia would be comfortable asserting. Like the "Maybe mod OP is lie, and ties aren't mafia kill choice" line.

I think tonally he looks town over all I'd say.

-/-/-/-

Ill lookit LC tomorrow.

So (I was looking at Char and remembered this:)

The 'maybe OP lies and ties aren't mafia choice' is just the worst thing. -EV. Not a helpful observation. It's like observing that 'Maybe Esoaa was scum and the flip was a lie.' It's unhelpful for town to consider calling those bluffs, because it's what we have to work with.

Don't remember the context, but if Made was going 'Eh, don't worry about the Tie,' that's bad. If they were being subtle about it, that's worse.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06, 2021 7:29 pm [VOTE: Made] aubergine

Seeing a lot of egging on from the sidelines to push people in direction, not a whole lot of leading or genuine consideration of points? It is hilarious, but I have no idea where Made stands.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06, 2021 7:30 pm Iduno maybe I should just say 'Vibe' I'm having trouble articulating why Made's ISO is meh to me

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:50 pm He's mentioned every other player today except for TSP.

Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:07 pm @Marmot hammer me coward!!!

Let my blood drench the guilty and awaken fire in the eyes of the people

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:04 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:50 pm He's mentioned every other player today except for TSP.

I honestly hadn't thought to check for this.

But I don't know which weighs more heavily on me, Chuck or Made.

I think and feel atm if Made is town then yes we certainly go for TSP/Chuck.

I'm not sure if I want to live through a world where Chuck flips town though, before Made flips, and having to live through that because knowing Made's flip (IMO) will help solve TSP's slot and by extension Chuck's as well since they're both voting the same person.

chardonnay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:04 am i think that LC, and Martian are more town looking then Speed, and Tony.

im not sure what else i have to say atm, will probably have to reconsider somethings tomarrow.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:23 pm

chardonnay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:04 am i think that LC, and Martian are more town looking then Speed, and Tony.

im not sure what else i have to say atm, will probably have to reconsider somethings tomarrow.

Did you skip my name since you're going to kill me tonight?

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:38 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:23 pm

chardonnay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:04 am i think that LC, and Martian are more town looking then Speed, and Tony.

im not sure what else i have to say atm, will probably have to reconsider somethings tomarrow.

Did you skip my name since you're going to kill me tonight?

except clearly I will die tonight.