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Posted: **Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:39 am**

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:36 am Also, just to add, the argument that me putting in a bunch of effort on Day 3 after a wolf flip is suspicious isn't a good AI argument (which both falcon and hk are doing), because it assumes town wouldn't do such a thing, but town would do such a thing.

Yeah, I don’t see it specifically as scummy.

It’s just difficult to switch viewpoints from the common assumption that you are the elephant with a colorful hat in the room

Posted: **Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:39 am**

It is also important to note that the Jester absolutely doesn't want the GF elimmed today, because the game would end in a town win.

Posted: **Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:40 am**

(Which I realize if you think I'm jester means you won't listen to me, but it is what it is)

Posted: **Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:41 am**

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:39 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:36 am Also, just to add, the argument that me putting in a bunch of effort on Day 3 after a wolf flip is suspicious isn't a good AI argument (which both falcon and hk are doing), because it assumes town wouldn't do such a thing, but town would do such a thing.
Yeah, I don’t see it specifically as scummy.

It’s just difficult to switch viewpoints from the common assumption that you are the elephant with a colorful hat in the room

Just imagine I'm a marmot with a colorful hat

Posted: **Mon Apr 11, 2022 11:32 am**

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:08 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 12:29 am
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:04 pm [VOTE: marmot] auberginemarmot deciding to give a damn about the game now vs any time in the last 2 game days is interesting. Lets do this:
It's incredibly sus, and makes me think even more that he's Jester

Like he's not aware that getting involved now is gonna look scummy
What do you think town!me would do?

Have put in some effort prior to D3

Posted: **Mon Apr 11, 2022 11:33 am**

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:36 am Also, just to add, the argument that me putting in a bunch of effort on Day 3 after a wolf flip is suspicious isn't a good AI argument (which both falcon and hk are doing), because it assumes town wouldn't do such a thing, but town would do such a thing.

I mean, if I think you're Jester & therefore don't want you flipped, I don't see why Town would be bothered? Yet you seem a touch flummoxed

Posted: **Mon Apr 11, 2022 11:53 am**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 11:33 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:36 am Also, just to add, the argument that me putting in a bunch of effort on Day 3 after a wolf flip is suspicious isn't a good AI argument (which both falcon and hk are doing), because it assumes town wouldn't do such a thing, but town would do such a thing.
I mean, if I think you're Jester & therefore don't want you flipped, I don't see why Town would be bothered? Yet you seem a touch flummoxed

I'd suggest you start looking for the wolf then instead of continuing to make the argument that I'm jester

Posted: **Mon Apr 11, 2022 12:36 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 11:53 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 11:33 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:36 am Also, just to add, the argument that me putting in a bunch of effort on Day 3 after a wolf flip is suspicious isn't a good AI argument (which both falcon and hk are doing), because it assumes town wouldn't do such a thing, but town would do such a thing.
I mean, if I think you're Jester & therefore don't want you flipped, I don't see why Town would be bothered? Yet you seem a touch flummoxed

I'd suggest you start looking for the wolf then instead of continuing to make the argument that I'm jester

I am voting for Nook, who I feel is wolfy. Does that count?

Posted: **Mon Apr 11, 2022 12:37 pm**

Posted: **Mon Apr 11, 2022 12:39 pm**

Nanook is my number 2 candidate for LC's partner, and I think there's a fair gap between those two and everyone else.

Posted: **Mon Apr 11, 2022 1:15 pm**

wait hang on, what about this:

NAA/Falcon spewed town by LC
Marmot = Jester

leaves Scotty/Nanook as the godfather then.

Posted: **Mon Apr 11, 2022 2:25 pm**

6 alive

1 wolf
1 jester
4 town

chop HK

1 wolf
1 jester
3 town

wolf NK

1 wolf
1 jester/2 town OR 3 town

If wolves NK the jester I think town just wins here
if wolves NK town though jester becomes kingmaker and decides if wolves or town wins. basically wolf and jester can hard out and force a tie which rands the chop which is as close to fulfilling the jester win con as I think they're going to get and gives wolves a 50/50 to win the game right there.

Posted: **Mon Apr 11, 2022 2:26 pm**

but I think town wins regardless if/when I die

Posted: **Mon Apr 11, 2022 2:52 pm**

I know this goes without saying, but if Jester makes it to F3, I'm kingmaking Jester.

Posted: **Mon Apr 11, 2022 2:54 pm**

NAA, what do you think of me clearing Falcon here from being godfather?
I know I said spewed town but then realized wolves don't know who the jester is so I'm walking that part back, but I do think they're not the GF

Posted: **Mon Apr 11, 2022 3:01 pm**

I am Town.

I know I've fibbed about that in the past (hey, who hasn't?), but it's legit this time fur reelz.

Posted: **Mon Apr 11, 2022 5:24 pm**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 2:52 pm I know this goes without saying, but if Jester makes it to F3, I'm kingmaking Jester.

[VOTE: NAA] aubergine

Posted: **Mon Apr 11, 2022 5:24 pm**

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 2:54 pm NAA, what do you think of me clearing Falcon here from being godfather?
I know I said spewed town but then realized wolves don't know who the jester is so I'm walking that part back, but I do think they're not the GF

If you're Jester *shrug*

If you're town, Jester is not voting you.

Posted: **Mon Apr 11, 2022 5:25 pm**

Is there a world in which HK is jester here?

Posted: **Mon Apr 11, 2022 5:28 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 5:25 pm Is there a world in which HK is jester here?

He's trying too hard to give off a Jester read.

Nanook is still probably PR and isn't being killed because he's everyone's top scum read outside of Hallowkatt.

Posted: **Mon Apr 11, 2022 5:28 pm**

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 2:25 pm 6 alive

1 wolf
1 jester
4 town

chop HK

1 wolf
1 jester
3 town

wolf NK

1 wolf
1 jester/2 town OR 3 town

If wolves NK the jester I think town just wins here
if wolves NK town though jester becomes kingmaker and decides if wolves or town wins. basically wolf and jester can hard out and force a tie which rands the chop which is as close to fulfilling the jester win con as I think they're going to get and gives wolves a 50/50 to win the game right there.

Fortunately the host accounted for that in the rules, the Jester's vote counts for 0 in a tie in F4 (and only F4, not F3), if the Jester is not one of the players being elimmed.

So the Jester can't play Kingmaker in the situation you described, which is nice.

Posted: **Mon Apr 11, 2022 5:29 pm**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 5:24 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 2:54 pm NAA, what do you think of me clearing Falcon here from being godfather?
I know I said spewed town but then realized wolves don't know who the jester is so I'm walking that part back, but I do think they're not the GF
If you're Jester *shrug*

If you're town, Jester is not voting you.

I mean if I'm jester the game ends with my chop so good for me I guess?
I'm not sure that HK town = jester not voting for me. Jester wants to look bad enough to be a possible push right?

Posted: **Mon Apr 11, 2022 5:30 pm**

Nanook being the doctor is probably the best case scenario right now, because if we go to N3, mafia have to choose to kill him to make the POE much smaller, or kill someone else and risk a successful protect.

Posted: **Mon Apr 11, 2022 5:31 pm**

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 5:29 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 5:24 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 2:54 pm NAA, what do you think of me clearing Falcon here from being godfather?
I know I said spewed town but then realized wolves don't know who the jester is so I'm walking that part back, but I do think they're not the GF
If you're Jester *shrug*

If you're town, Jester is not voting you.
I mean if I'm jester the game ends with my chop so good for me I guess?
I'm not sure that HK town = jester not voting for me. Jester wants to look bad enough to be a possible push right?

That's why I'm putting in a townie amount of effort to counter the notion that Jester would want to look bad right now.

Posted: **Mon Apr 11, 2022 5:40 pm**

Nah I’m down to just kill HK here

[VOTE: HK] aubergine

Posted: **Mon Apr 11, 2022 11:41 pm**

okiedokie

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:21 am**

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME I've been trying to out that you're PR all game, and nobody has killed you yet, so you don't have to vote me over it.

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:34 am**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:21 am @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME I've been trying to out that you're PR all game, and nobody has killed you yet, so you don't have to vote me over it.

Which is funny considering I’m the doctor

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:38 am**

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:34 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:21 am @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME I've been trying to out that you're PR all game, and nobody has killed you yet, so you don't have to vote me over it.
Which is funny considering I’m the doctor

Nice

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:39 am**

Hopefully a POE of hk/Nanook is a winning one then

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:02 am**

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:34 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:21 am @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME I've been trying to out that you're PR all game, and nobody has killed you yet, so you don't have to vote me over it.
Which is funny considering I’m the doctor

Can't decide if this is a jester or mafia claim lol

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:11 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:02 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:34 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:21 am @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME I've been trying to out that you're PR all game, and nobody has killed you yet, so you don't have to vote me over it.
Which is funny considering I’m the doctor
Can't decide if this is a jester or mafia claim lol

Neither my bro!

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:17 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:02 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:34 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:21 am @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME I've been trying to out that you're PR all game, and nobody has killed you yet, so you don't have to vote me over it.
Which is funny considering I’m the doctor
Can't decide if this is a jester or mafia claim lol

Scotty has been actively claiming Jester, his vote on HK shows that Scotty town reads HK.

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:18 am**

Though, if nobody CCs, I guess he's probably actually the Doc, which makes Nanook probably mafia...

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:16 pm**

Ok let's kill Nanook then.

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:17 pm**

[VOTE: nanook] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:18 pm**

[VOTE: nanook] aubergine

obvs self press is obvs

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:18 pm**

@NotAnAxehole vote nanook with me

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:20 pm**

It would be funny if nanook was actually jester

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:21 pm**

I would deserve nothing less.

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:33 pm**

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:38 pm**

The town finally captured him. The godfather. They had found letters in his house that suggested orders given to the mafia, a number of weapons and a set of old looking fedoras and suits, the kind a mafia boss would wear. Besides, "great and fearsome"? What kind of person boasts that title besides the most horrible criminal?

They took the man to the execution platform, and out his neck on the gallow. The crowd surrounded him, waiting to see another execution, just like they had seen his goon's yesterday. They cut the rope, and his head hanged.

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:42 pm**

Niiiice, that sounds like a W?

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:42 pm**

But then, it turned out just the head was hanging. And it was actually a mask, with the man himself slipping out of it, as some kind of magic trick. And as soon as they looked to him, they saw the worst visage ever. A clown.

He ran away, laughing, telling dumb jokes, and pressing his own nose to make funny noises.

They would soon find out the weapons in his house were fake ones who shot confetti, the letters were all fake too and the suits had been rented the previous night. After that, the real gofather said "screw it, this town is dumb" and left. The villagers, demoralized, went back home to watch TV. The town would never recover their pride again after that ridiculous day.

Nanook (Jester) was killed.

Congratulations to Nanook!

Thanks for playing!

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:43 pm**

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:43 pm**

dammit

GG Nanook and well played!

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:44 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:20 pm It would be funny if nanook was actually jester

It was funny that Nanook was actually Jester.

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:44 pm**

List of roles:

Spoiler: show

List of Night Actions:

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:44 pm**

Well played Nanook.

I assume hk was the godfather yeah?

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:45 pm**

NAA was the doctor?

I am confuse

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