The Syndicate

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 3:31 am**

I laid out my thought process quite clearly yesterday and you pivoted to lucy for no reason, and now you want to kill me
I don't understand what's so difficult about just listening to me and voting out Nanook and then Wilgy and probably winning the game

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 3:32 am**

And before you go "why is Vulgard alive if he's correct about Nanook/Wilgy having the last mafia"
I'm pretty clearly misyeetable as demonstrated here by you immediately going "vote Vulgard" at this SoD even though you just killed a villager that I'd cleared
The last wolf needs viable misyeets
Killing me takes me out of the PoE

Look at the last few kills, they were Sabi into Rondo into Mac which were slots that we'd never kill because those were two obvious villagers and the PR

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 3:35 am**

If you do vote me out, I'm just going to join Achromatic in screaming for Nanook's head after I flip and if the wolf is Wilgy then I will equally blame Nanook for shielding a wolf and the rest of the village for deciding to vote out my townread and then me instead of killing the tiny grouping I gave you

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 3:37 am**

Dizzy/Nanook contains at least one wolfsiding villager unfortunately going by how yesterday's EoD and today's SoD went

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 3:42 am**

Dizzy could be a wolf playing well in which case kudos to Dizzy and they frankly deserve the win
There was an option to kill them in f3 after Nanook/Wilgy but that option went away when you voted out lucy yesterday against my wishes so I'm not going to feel at fault for this

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 3:43 am**

I usually don't like accusing town of throwing because it's toxic and I'm still not accusing you of throwing but I do think that EoD and this SoD are extremely wolfsided decisions
Admittedly my POV is biased because I know I'm town but yes

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 3:46 am**

Kill Nanook and then weigh Nanook's shield on Wilgy vs Dizzy's play in f3 because I don't think there's a world where these two aren't both alive in f3
Assuming Nanook isn't just mafia and his elim doesn't end the game right there

Whoever of Seanzie/Vivax will be in f3 isn't mafia and if you kill them instead I will be extremely disappointed in you

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 3:47 am**

I'm personally still leaning Wilgy over Dizzy to a pretty significant extent if I assume Nanook is town but I'm not sure how much this'll matter to you

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:30 am**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 5:47 pm Kind of want to self vote now tbh

Gottem, the last mafia got AtEd into semi-conceding during the misyeet

Vivax wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 3:12 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 3:08 pm I mean I should be pretty clear lol

Anyways kill vulgard and lucy, idc the order
If you invert the order, you put lucy ferst and can save yourself

Nanook saw the light at the end of phase!

Vivax wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:01 pm [VOTE: Lucy] aubergine

I'll be damned if I launch someone who wants to be

I did a whoopsie, but at least now I have warm feet

[VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:38 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:32 am let's just do what vulgard says to do

Will consider this legacy maybe for 50% of my thinking today
But the Dizzy post is just very yeetable for me. Looked like truth

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:02 am**

Wow you're so right lucy died for literally zero reason, how did i not see that yesterday

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:08 am**

Oh no, I read Vul's ISO and it's townie. His treatment of me feels very townie

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:08 am**

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:38 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:32 am let's just do what vulgard says to do
Will consider this legacy maybe for 50% of my thinking today
But the Dizzy post is just very yeetable for me. Looked like truth

It was the truth, but not in the way you're positing

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:10 am**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 12:09 am @Dyslexicon are you going to be pissed if I come at you full-force here?

Meh, it would be not good.

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:12 am**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:08 am Oh no, I read Vul's ISO and it's townie. His treatment of me feels very townie

It isn't tho, its just deflection and tmi with a bit of ate sprinkled throughout

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:13 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:12 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:08 am Oh no, I read Vul's ISO and it's townie. His treatment of me feels very townie
It isn't tho, its just deflection and tmi with a bit of ate sprinkled throughout

Oh ok

Also very possible

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:14 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:12 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:08 am Oh no, I read Vul's ISO and it's townie. His treatment of me feels very townie
It isn't tho, its just deflection and tmi with a bit of ate sprinkled throughout

No you just evidently aren't listening to me and you just killed someone I'd cleared the very same day so I'm allowed to be a little frustrated

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:15 am**

I'll be home in a couple of hours and start over start over

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:17 am**

By "you" I mean the village at large
Also if you're going to throw buzzwords like "tmi" and "deflection" then how about giving some actual examples

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:38 am**

Vulgard wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:14 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:12 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:08 am Oh no, I read Vul's ISO and it's townie. His treatment of me feels very townie
It isn't tho, its just deflection and tmi with a bit of ate sprinkled throughout
No you just evidently aren't listening to me and you just killed someone I'd cleared the very same day so I'm allowed to be a little frustrated

Meh, killing ender was worse, Lucy was at least poe

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:38 am**

Vulgard wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:17 am By "you" I mean the village at large
Also if you're going to throw buzzwords like "tmi" and "deflection" then how about giving some actual examples

You've played with me before

You know thats unlikely

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:40 am**

In that case it's not really worth listening to
Are you still shielding Wilgy?

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:41 am**

Well obviously you're not going to listen to it lol

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:41 am**

Normal speaking voices (non-players)

Help I'm being silenced

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:47 am**

Man had I known you were going to kill one of my villagers and then me I would've asked you to kill me yesterday instead so you'd maybe listen to my legacy but instead we're in f6 and there's a real chance you kill me now and don't listen to me in f3
Also the f3 composition is worse now no matter how I look at it

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:49 am**

Way I see it I should probably stick to early reads and go the Wilgy route, sometimes I get that Dizzy moment of casually nailing a few off entrance
Going to unvote, maybe take it a bit slower this day, there should be enough info to figure it out

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:51 am**

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:49 am Way I see it I should probably stick to early reads and go the Wilgy route, sometimes I get that Dizzy moment of casually nailing a few off entrance
Going to unvote, maybe take it a bit slower this day, there should be enough info to figure it out

I'm asking if NANOOK is still shielding Wilgy for a reason

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:01 am**

[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:02 am**

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:04 am**

If its wrong ill recalibrate the read, but

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:13 am**

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:44 pm wilgy has posted more in this game already than he has in like my past 3 games with them combined

Wilgys early miniwall while everyone was more in a casual mood obviously isn't a great optic (Around P3-4), then this post by Porscha leaves me puzzled because it's inconclusive

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:15 am**

Achromatic wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:58 pm I actually have lucy and sabi as possible w/w I thought their earlier interactions were odd so wilgy saying that makes me feel good about them. Small thing. Says more about wilgy than the w/w thing.

As for lucy no idea her wolf range but she isn't quite clicking right for me. Ping. Quals taught me to pursue pings properly tbh.

Alright, here's Achro scumreading Wilgy

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:18 am**

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:13 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:44 pm wilgy has posted more in this game already than he has in like my past 3 games with them combined
Wilgys early miniwall while everyone was more in a casual mood obviously isn't a great optic (Around P3-4), then this post by Porscha leaves me puzzled because it's inconclusive

Its v similar to a throwaway comment she made about me, actually, which im inclined to say is >rand town for wilgy

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:24 am**

So Nanook, I'm going to assume I die today for a moment
I flip town
You go to f4
You sleep
If Wilgy is in f3, are you just snapvoting the other person?

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:33 am**

Vulgard wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:24 am So Nanook, I'm going to assume I die today for a moment
I flip town
You go to f4
You sleep
If Wilgy is in f3, are you just snapvoting the other person?

If you flip town ill do my due diligence before snapping

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:34 am**

Hm okay
In that case I'm maintaining what I said earlier, kill Nanook kill Wilgy GG, if we lose then still GG because the last wolf played p well, if it's Dizzy then I blame you for executing lucy yesterday because we would've had room for executing Dizzy otherwise

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:36 am**

That's basically my entire legacy and I gave my full reasoning for those reads yesterday so you can go check that if you want
I don't particularly feel like defending myself especially since the case against me rests primarily on the actions of my previous slot holder which I can't defend so
Listen to me or kill me and hopefully you figure it out I guess

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:45 am**

Vulgard wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:34 am Hm okay
In that case I'm maintaining what I said earlier, kill Nanook kill Wilgy GG, if we lose then still GG because the last wolf played p well, if it's Dizzy then I blame you for executing lucy yesterday because we would've had room for executing Dizzy otherwise

Nook was one of the first voters on Tommy, don't think I want to lim that

PoE is you/Dizzy/Wilgy for me.

Your predecessor and the other two had similar early games being away from the spotlight
Wilgy 'bad post' making me lean town sort of after thinking it through a bit

Looking at Porscha/Tommy, they seemed to prefer to avoid looking solvy as long as they could
Same for Flanders dropping an obvi nonsensical Axe read
Dyslexicon around that category as well, would look bad if not for the two blitz reads on two scum. If bus this was a bus done right.

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:54 am**

This is more than just a reread, it's an aftershave

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:09 am**

Mac retracted the Achro read quickly after that
Leaning Dizzy at P14 now, rereading the entire progression up to that, this comeback to the thread sticks out like a sore thumb, but they said they had a big toe so maybe that's just a talent that comes with it.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:14 am I haven't really read the game, and I'm probably not going to for a while, so enjoy that.

I have Sabi and Mac as town. These are both vibes and what kind of energy they are bringing. Mac is more based in meta, which I do think I have at least a decent track record of picking up on. For Sabi, I just liked their start and their impatience, them talking about wanting to do better. So there are my friends now. Will see if that turns out good or not.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:15 am [VOTE: Tommy] aubergine

Thread flow or he's frozen or whatever

Dizzy kinda forgot their initial read on Porscha and didn't re-eval, voted Tommy after Nook. Seemed a bit like a frustration bus at the teammate and the tone suggests a meh mood and lack of optimism at the game going forward, which is W indicative

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:21 am**

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:53 pm
Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:18 pm TRing Rondo, Sean and Mac. Rondo sounds identical to the last two games I've played here. I scum read him both games and he ended up flipped town (reanimation excluded).
Sean more toothy and hostile than last game where he was wolf. He seemed light and kinda floated through the thread as wolf, very different tone this game.
Mac could be anything I suppose, but he's putting in the work and it's not feeling forced to this point. His reaction to me piling on was classic too, enjoyable really. His read on me is wrong, but that's the way she goes.

Can't remember if it was Vivax or Wiggin who tried to tie me to Axehole because I made sure joke about us being Canadian.. They both entered at basically the same time so you'll have to forgive my processing here ( in catchup mode from work).

Lead wagons seem good. Porscha trying to excuse herself from putting in any effort because neither Sean or I had was sketch, and I pointed that out earlier. I'll be the first to say I totally suck at this game, so pinning any sort of excuse as to why she's not playing on me, is pretty weak.

Tommy really seems like LHF, but at the same time their posting yesterday was just not townie at all and the fact the they haven't re-entered does come across frozen.

Can't put my finger on why, gut read I guess, but Dyslexicon pinged yesterday. Lucy still feels scummy as well. Upon reflection she spent her time trying to "look towny" and I felt some post come across as self conscious.
What a nice wolfy post.
Has token effort all written over it, and makes me really uncomfortable about voting Porscha considering the bolded.
No real focus, just trying to cover every base.

[VOTE: Stupid Sexy Flanders] aubergine

Going back to this post, I see Dizzy, SSF and Lucy as somehow...One camp in SSF's perception, as if lucy and Dizzy were this slot's shields it could push at the same time while calling his partners W
This post being probably the most calculated to look good, bus and push mislims at the same time among the three
Way too accurate in some regards to come from someone who didn't seem to spend a lot of time on the game compared to others

Vulgard elim trending up in my books now

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:39 am**

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:14 pm Attacking the bolded part of my post referring to why I sus porscha sucks. The entire reason I sus porscha is apparently wolfy.

Or maybe just a wolfy push on a self confessed mediocre player.

That pinch must've hurt though, the buildup of an OMGUS narrative at the end doesn't feel genuine.
On this page Flanders got very defensive, hissy towards me and Achro. Page 16 is worth reading if you want to catch scum

The next quote just seems *very* outing because assuming Achro was attacking me is the reaction of a wolf who feels like his clothes just got torn off in the middle of a square and that another player who was around had a legitimate reason to scumread him, so that made him misread Achro's intention and get overdefensive assuming everyone should have him by now.

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:22 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:20 pm Flanders you realize I was disagreeing with vivax, right.

He said the bold was wolfy and I said it was towny. You seem confused.
My first name is Stupid, not Confused.

[VOTE: Vulgard] aubergine

gg?

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:46 am**

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:39 am
Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:14 pm Attacking the bolded part of my post referring to why I sus porscha sucks. The entire reason I sus porscha is apparently wolfy.

Or maybe just a wolfy push on a self confessed mediocre player.
That pinch must've hurt though, the buildup of an OMGUS narrative at the end doesn't feel genuine.
On this page Flanders got very defensive, hissy towards me and Achro. Page 16 is worth reading if you want to catch scum

The next quote just seems *very* outing because assuming Achro was attacking me is the reaction of a wolf who feels like his clothes just got torn off in the middle of a square and that another player who was around had a legitimate reason to scumread him, so that made him misread Achro's intention and get overdefensive assuming everyone should have him by now.

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:22 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:20 pm Flanders you realize I was disagreeing with vivax, right.

He said the bold was wolfy and I said it was towny. You seem confused.
My first name is Stupid, not Confused.
[VOTE: Vulgard] aubergine

gg?

I can't hammer if you don't vote in the poll.

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:47 am**

Oh nvm you did

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:47 am**

Do I do it?

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:49 am**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:47 amDo I do it?

Depends on how convincing you find the argument that between Dizzy and Vulgard, the one who tries harder to look like Wolf probably isn't

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:49 am**

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 12:01 pm**

Eh....

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 12:02 pm**

Ehhhhhhhh....

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 12:03 pm**

YES!YES!YES!

caw caw caw

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