The Syndicate

MovingPictures07 wrote:

ika wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:I realize this site has a mod on duty function, but if we don't get in these heated battles, it's not nearly as easy to read a person. I agree with no personal attacks or insults but there is no reason we can't have these types of discussions because it does make it easier to not only get a read but for others reading it to get one as well.

This is mostly the point i was makign when SF made his announcement. This is mafia so heat will be brought and should be taken, i tend to use this kind of dicussions myself to get reads. I dont get personal unless someone else starts it, i see on this site i wont be happened so i wont. if it ever got to that poitn for me i would leave the game for a bit. silver has taught me to do that when i get upset

Counting to 5 and leaving the game thread when you get upset is definitely an excellent habit to develop.

Silverwolf wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

ika wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:I realize this site has a mod on duty function, but if we don't get in these heated battles, it's not nearly as easy to read a person. I agree with no personal attacks or insults but there is no reason we can't have these types of discussions because it does make it easier to not only get a read but for others reading it to get one as well.

This is mostly the point i was makign when SF made his announcement. This is mafia so heat will be brought and should be taken, i tend to use this kind of dicussions myself to get reads. I dont get personal unless someone else starts it, i see on this site i wont be happened so i wont. if it ever got to that poitn for me i would leave the game for a bit. silver has taught me to do that when i get upset

Counting to 5 and leaving the game thread when you get upset is definitely an excellent habit to develop.

For me it's 100

Lol, same here.

Silverwolf wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

ika wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:I realize this site has a mod on duty function, but if we don't get in these heated battles, it's not nearly as easy to read a person. I agree with no personal attacks or insults but there is no reason we can't have these types of discussions because it does make it easier to not only get a read but for others reading it to get one as well.

This is mostly the point i was makign when SF made his announcement. This is mafia so heat will be brought and should be taken, i tend to use this kind of dicussions myself to get reads. I dont get personal unless someone else starts it, i see on this site i wont be happened so i wont. if it ever got to that poitn for me i would leave the game for a bit. silver has taught me to do that when i get upset

Counting to 5 and leaving the game thread when you get upset is definitely an excellent habit to develop.

For me it's 100

Silverwolf wrote:If they are buddies, he has everything to gain from it.

ika wrote:

Epignosis wrote:My controller ran out of batteries during sudden death. I blame Simon.

ika wrote:

Epignosis wrote:This proves to me that Silverwolf has no credibility in reading you. She abandoned you for Draconus and now me. If you are bad, she can't read you.

Q.E.D.

It doesnt prove shit. I mena i already poitned out that your town read on me is based on bad reasons. SIlver knwos me better. she would knwo that i would not hesitate ot bus either. She has full credibilty to ready me. your continued discredit is very compelling and showing the true side of you

I don't have a "town read" on you though.

so your scum reading me? then you should have no problem voting me

ika wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

Epignosis wrote:This proves to me that Silverwolf has no credibility in reading you. She abandoned you for Draconus and now me. If you are bad, she can't read you.

Q.E.D.

Yeah,this.

And Jackie Chan meme is best meme

not this at all. want to knwo a pro tip about my meta? im a heavy busser and silver knwos that i will vote with her even if its a scum buddy so if she thinks its scum and i were to eb scum, its a moot point to try to devine that.

ika, if everyone knows what you do when you are bad, then shouldn't you...you know...vary it up?

not really, i change some here and there form time to time but most times i enjoy people knowing my metas so i can challange it

Silverwolf wrote:You want to know what I see in Epi's post. Wanting to discredit my ability to read ika and also try to turn things around on me in a way to discredit all my reads in this game. He's not voting me. He's not calling me scum. He's just trying to discredit everything I do and try to keep the focus on me and off of my reads.

It's scum 101.

I don't see why I have to think you're bad to think you're wrong.

its the discredintg on it is the thing, there is 0 town motivation ebhind it. you can easly jsut say "i think hes town so i disagree"

ika wrote:

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

ika wrote:

Epignosis wrote:This proves to me that Silverwolf has no credibility in reading you. She abandoned you for Draconus and now me. If you are bad, she can't read you.

Q.E.D.

It doesnt prove shit. I mena i already poitned out that your town read on me is based on bad reasons. SIlver knwos me better. she would knwo that i would not hesitate ot bus either. She has full credibilty to ready me. your continued discredit is very compelling and showing the true side of you

What does Epignosis stand to gain, as a bad guy, by discrediting Silverwolf on her baddie read of you? He is protecting you from her.

PIssing me and silver off. When he is using persoanl relationship reasons to discredt it (as silver jsut pointed out with his post) i will have a problem regardless of my alginemt

No. The moment someone comes in and says she can read someone well because of their relationship is the moment she invites scrutiny on that claim. Well, she's being scrutinized. If you don't want your relationship called into question, don't make it part of the game.

I still don't get your beef with it. Jesus. I never said you guys didn't love each other.

my beef is that the reason we can read is more then jsut the relationsship, its our histroy, out metas, our very playstelys and how we interact. when you narrow it to the relatipnship itself we get pissed. you could of mention the interactions, the plays we have made, hell most of what we have actualy said it more meta based then relationship based so.....

Silverwolf wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

Epignosis wrote:This proves to me that Silverwolf has no credibility in reading you. She abandoned you for Draconus and now me. If you are bad, she can't read you.

Q.E.D.

Yeah,this.

And Jackie Chan meme is best meme

No, not this.

I have read ika 100% correctly in every game we've played. He draws town far more often on ms.

And this tells me you're prone to recency bias as well.

Is ika bad or not?

Why or why not?

ill let silver answer

Silverwolf wrote:

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

ika wrote:

Epignosis wrote:This proves to me that Silverwolf has no credibility in reading you. She abandoned you for Draconus and now me. If you are bad, she can't read you.

Q.E.D.

It doesnt prove shit. I mena i already poitned out that your town read on me is based on bad reasons. SIlver knwos me better. she would knwo that i would not hesitate ot bus either. She has full credibilty to ready me. your continued discredit is very compelling and showing the true side of you

What does Epignosis stand to gain, as a bad guy, by discrediting Silverwolf on her baddie read of you? He is protecting you from her.

If they are buddies, he has everything to gain from it.

ika wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Counting to 5 and leaving the game thread when you get upset is definitely an excellent habit to develop.

For me it's 100

for me its 17 :P

Finally, "Meta" is bullshit. Anyone can fake it with some effort.

Epignosis wrote:
Going to use "sarcastic orange" for once in my life:

I don't think Turnip Head is good. I don't think Turnip Head is bad. So I should vote for him. Nah.

"I think he's town so I disagree."

But I don't (necessarily) think you're "town." I questioned SilverWolf's ability to read you. That's precisely what I called into question. "I think he's town so I disagree" wouldn't have accomplished my purposes. Whether she likes it or not, Silverwolf can't read you as well as she says she can. That's important for the civilians to know, and I'm sorry I didn't go about that business sooner.

Finally, "Meta" is bullshit. Anyone can fake it with some effort.

Epignosis wrote: But I don't (necessarily) think you're "town." I questioned SilverWolf's ability to read you. That's precisely what I called into question. "I think he's town so I disagree" wouldn't have accomplished my purposes. Whether she likes it or not, Silverwolf can't read you as well as she says she can. That's important for the civilians to know, and I'm sorry I didn't go about that business sooner.

Finally, "Meta" is bullshit. Anyone can fake it with some effort.

Silverwolf wrote:

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:That's fine. The fact that people are agreeing with it is supremely frustrating to me. I know ika and have experience with him and it's really, really annoying when people who don't know either of us say I don't.

Quin wrote:

Finally, "Meta" is bullshit. Anyone can fake it with some effort.

let's run away together

Prisoner 509378 wrote:ika, would you rather get lynched to prove SW right than survive?

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:That's fine. The fact that people are agreeing with it is supremely frustrating to me. I know ika and have experience with him and it's really, really annoying when people who don't know either of us say I don't.

Nobody is saying you don't know him or have playing experience with him. They're saying that your read is not infallible and on its own power is not enough motive to lynch him.

ika himself seems to be arguing against that which should confirm that he is a baddie.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:That's fine. The fact that people are agreeing with it is supremely frustrating to me. I know ika and have experience with him and it's really, really annoying when people who don't know either of us say I don't.

Nobody is saying you don't know him or have playing experience with him. They're saying that your read is not infallible and on its own power is not enough motive to lynch him.

ika himself seems to be arguing against that which should confirm that he is a baddie.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

Prisoner 509378 wrote:ika, would you rather get lynched to prove SW right than survive?

Silverwolf wrote:
That's fine. No one's read on anyone is infallible. I don't like the implication I can't read him when I can. It's a discredit job that scum would have to do in order to defend ika or discredit me if I'm right on my reads. It also puts the focus on me which is a good strategy for scum. I've done all this before as scum. It's how the game is played.

ika wrote:

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

Prisoner 509378 wrote:ika, would you rather get lynched to prove SW right than survive?

if silver said "im 100% sure ika is scum lynch him" i would say yes. if she has any doubt i say no and let her continue her poing and prodding on me

Prisoner 509378 wrote:I love that I am being told by both of you how the game is played. I'm just Prisoner 509378, what do I know?

Prisoner 509378 wrote:I love that I am being told by both of you how the game is played. I'm just Prisoner 509378, what do I know?

thellama73 wrote:Whew, busy weekend. Okay, what are we doing? Lynching Quin?

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Whew, busy weekend. Okay, what are we doing? Lynching Quin?

lol hi llama. You got beef with Q?

Soneji wrote:A lot of posts devoted to talking about a mechanic that only matters to endgame numbers for the mafia(with a chance to cancel out naturally), that only could slightly assist the cops in finding the Dons, who to our knowledge have no means of harming them. The question now is to look towards Wilgy who started it or DDL who went full on with it, claimed it made Wilgy likely town and took way too long to acknowledge it as a distraction to actual scumhunting.

Dragon D Luffy

S~V~S wrote:We're waiting for ika to tell us if Silver is right about him or not.

thellama73 wrote:

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Whew, busy weekend. Okay, what are we doing? Lynching Quin?

lol hi llama. You got beef with Q?

Yes. I asked Quin if he was bad, and he didn't say no.

sig wrote:This is why I GTH Llama as bad he does things like he just did and has yet to get called out on it. It seems like a good scum strategy. Thoughts for those more familiar with his meta?

thellama73 wrote:Quin, are you bad? I can't tell.

thellama73 wrote:

Quin wrote: Are there really any good guys in this setup?

So that's a yes. Thanks.

Everybody lynch Quin.

thellama73 wrote:In all seriousness, I see this all the time, and I regard it as a legitimate baddie catching technique. I ask someone if they are bad, and instead of saying "no" they make a joke out of it.

Why? I think there are still an awful lot of people who are subconsciously uncomfortable lying in the face of a very direct question, so they dodge instead. They don't mean to, but it is their instinct. I trust my methods, and it's why I'm voting Quin today.

Quin wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Whew, busy weekend. Okay, what are we doing? Lynching Quin?

lol hi llama. You got beef with Q?

Yes. I asked Quin if he was bad, and he didn't say no.

\_(:T)_/

Scotty's probably the only person voting me not relying on an ever-trustworthy mechanic, so I'll get to have a laff soon enough

But seeing ika flip bad would look good for me should you change your mind, so I'll vote ika

S~V~S wrote:

Quin wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Whew, busy weekend. Okay, what are we doing? Lynching Quin?

lol hi llama. You got beef with Q?

Yes. I asked Quin if he was bad, and he didn't say no.

\_(:T)_/

Scotty's probably the only person voting me not relying on an ever-trustworthy mechanic, so I'll get to have a laff soon enough

But seeing ika flip bad would look good for me should you change your mind, so I'll vote ika

I am voting for you based on your posts and your voting history

Linki @ ika, or you refuse to answer definitively?

Quin wrote: \_(:T)_/

Scotty's probably the only person voting me not relying on an ever-trustworthy mechanic, so I'll get to have a laff soon enough

But seeing ika flip bad would look good for me should you change your mind, so I'll vote ika

S~V~S wrote:Should we call Silvers bluff and lynch ika?

ika wrote:Silver can read me accurately. She is struggling with her read on em as well. if she were to be certain of it then i would answer.

As long as silver has some reservations about me, the question at hand cant be answered

HOLY PEDIT PPL LET ME TYPE

thellama73 wrote:Here's the relevant series of quotes, Prisoner. Make up your own mind.

thellama73 wrote:Quin, are you bad? I can't tell.

thellama73 wrote:

Quin wrote: Are there really any good guys in this setup?

So that's a yes. Thanks.

Everybody lynch Quin.

thellama73 wrote:In all seriousness, I see this all the time, and I regard it as a legitimate baddie catching technique. I ask someone if they are bad, and instead of saying "no" they make a joke out of it.

Why? I think there are still an awful lot of people who are subconsciously uncomfortable lying in the face of a very direct question, so they dodge instead. They don't mean to, but it is their instinct. I trust my methods, and it's why I'm voting Quin today.

Quin wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

Quin wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Whew, busy weekend. Okay, what are we doing? Lynching Quin?

lol hi llama. You got beef with Q?

Yes. I asked Quin if he was bad, and he didn't say no.

\_(:T)_/

Scotty's probably the only person voting me not relying on an ever-trustworthy mechanic, so I'll get to have a laff soon enough

But seeing ika flip bad would look good for me should you change your mind, so I'll vote ika

I am voting for you based on your posts and your voting history

Linki @ ika, or you refuse to answer definitively?

Yeah...but no.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

ika wrote:Silver can read me accurately. She is struggling with her read on em as well. if she were to be certain of it then i would answer.

As long as silver has some reservations about me, the question at hand cant be answered

HOLY PEDIT PPL LET ME TYPE

She says you are currently a scum read for her. Not an absolute 100% certainty, but a scum read. Is she incorrect to call you a scum read? Quit dodging the question and answer it, or you're going to effing die.