Re: Pokemon Mafia [Day 3]
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:53 pm
I'm paranoid about everything right now.
Why did you vote G-Man yesterday, do you still think G-Man is bad, did you not see the vote count when you voted?Tink wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:51 pmWhy is everybody voting for me? Is it because people think I'm just easy to get out?DFaraday wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:50 pm I would be fine with voting Tink or Dom, as they haven't contributed as of yet. If Dys doesn't offer something again soon, I'd say get her out as well. Eloh at least has, although I think it's bizarre that she keeps insisting that Tink is good, when I don't see how she could know that so early in the game.
Yes he sounds super bad, just was wondering if you still felt that way and did you just not vote for anyone else cus you thought G was the worst.
Wait, why's that?Fredwood wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:01 pm The issue I have here with Elo is that there has to be a TDome with Boo I think, but I don't think Eloh is active enough to warrant a true one. A Boo flip will clear or damn Elo. An Elo lynch doesn't necessarily clear or damn Boo. IE if Eloh flips town, we still have questions about Boo, but if Boo flips town it's almost an auto-lynch on Elo at that point.
I can see the latch from a certain perspective as tonally read someone and to cut off the habit of lynching people on vacation. There's so many low posters that they all can't be scum. I just feel if Eloh is scum, a hard latch just doesn't make sense. I don't know enough about Elo to make that judgment if that kind of ballsy play is one she makes as scum. I think an Elo scum lynch would spew Tink clear though.
Because she voted him at EOD with like 5 minutes left. She doesn't have enough town equity to survive a Boo town flip. In a scenario where both wagons are V/V it's very reasonable that scum wants the biggest threat gone. Boo was at least putting up his own defense last phase, Timmer from my recollection didn't have as much as a strong case on Boo. So if I'm in scum shoes there, I want a Boo lynch over Timmer lynch.DFaraday wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:12 pm Went ahead and voted Tink.
Wait, why's that?Fredwood wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:01 pm The issue I have here with Elo is that there has to be a TDome with Boo I think, but I don't think Eloh is active enough to warrant a true one. A Boo flip will clear or damn Elo. An Elo lynch doesn't necessarily clear or damn Boo. IE if Eloh flips town, we still have questions about Boo, but if Boo flips town it's almost an auto-lynch on Elo at that point.
I can see the latch from a certain perspective as tonally read someone and to cut off the habit of lynching people on vacation. There's so many low posters that they all can't be scum. I just feel if Eloh is scum, a hard latch just doesn't make sense. I don't know enough about Elo to make that judgment if that kind of ballsy play is one she makes as scum. I think an Elo scum lynch would spew Tink clear though.
So you would rather vote him over Spirit? Are you scum leaning spirit as well?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:16 pm A Dom flip does 2 very important things for us.
1. On flip, If civ, this validates that mafia may be amongst the ones preaching to purge low posters. On flip, if mafia, we can assume mafai aren't wanting to hit low posters.
2. We kill a wallflower, and won't have to deal with it later.
Assuming we gain no info from a wallflower purge is shallow.
Okay, I misinterpreted. Makes sense.Fredwood wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:18 pmBecause she voted him at EOD with like 5 minutes left. She doesn't have enough town equity to survive a Boo town flip. In a scenario where both wagons are V/V it's very reasonable that scum wants the biggest threat gone. Boo was at least putting up his own defense last phase, Timmer from my recollection didn't have as much as a strong case on Boo. So if I'm in scum shoes there, I want a Boo lynch over Timmer lynch.DFaraday wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:12 pm Went ahead and voted Tink.
Wait, why's that?Fredwood wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:01 pm The issue I have here with Elo is that there has to be a TDome with Boo I think, but I don't think Eloh is active enough to warrant a true one. A Boo flip will clear or damn Elo. An Elo lynch doesn't necessarily clear or damn Boo. IE if Eloh flips town, we still have questions about Boo, but if Boo flips town it's almost an auto-lynch on Elo at that point.
I can see the latch from a certain perspective as tonally read someone and to cut off the habit of lynching people on vacation. There's so many low posters that they all can't be scum. I just feel if Eloh is scum, a hard latch just doesn't make sense. I don't know enough about Elo to make that judgment if that kind of ballsy play is one she makes as scum. I think an Elo scum lynch would spew Tink clear though.
I'd like to kill both really. I wouldn't mind if wildflower tink dies as well, but I think it's dumb that we are lynching people that are actually participating.Fredwood wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:21 pmSo you would rather vote him over Spirit? Are you scum leaning spirit as well?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:16 pm A Dom flip does 2 very important things for us.
1. On flip, If civ, this validates that mafia may be amongst the ones preaching to purge low posters. On flip, if mafia, we can assume mafai aren't wanting to hit low posters.
2. We kill a wallflower, and won't have to deal with it later.
Assuming we gain no info from a wallflower purge is shallow.
That was really out of left field. If Tink is lynched and comes back bad I'll be thinking save.
I think given the timing Nutella's vote makes her look really good. I agree that Mac's isn't saying much either way.Fredwood wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:39 pm Fucking A...So clears Tink...no way does Mafia save her over Spirit so I think they were a V/W wagon. Glad I at least moved my vote off her to at least give her the chance in a tie.
I'm taking a couple pings of G-Man because I think he was the first to vote Spirit post Macs Early vote. Though I don't want to town clear him fully yet, I think he fully knows if he votes Tink there and it's a town flip, his goose is cooked. However he did cast shade on Spirit early in the phase, so he's in my wary group.
Not sure what to do about Mac's vote, and the last time I gave voter credit for Nutella it came back to bite me in the ass.
If I don't get credit for it I will throw a huge tantrum. That was pure Mac genius. That is how I hunt.Fredwood wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:39 pm Fucking A...So clears Tink...no way does Mafia save her over Spirit so I think they were a V/W wagon. Glad I at least moved my vote off her to at least give her the chance in a tie.
I'm taking a couple pings of G-Man because I think he was the first to vote Spirit post Macs Early vote. Though I don't want to town clear him fully yet, I think he fully knows if he votes Tink there and it's a town flip, his goose is cooked. However he did cast shade on Spirit early in the phase, so he's in my wary group.
Not sure what to do about Mac's vote, and the last time I gave voter credit for Nutella it came back to bite me in the ass.
Pretty sure I votes Sprit before Gman homie.Fredwood wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:39 pm Fucking A...So clears Tink...no way does Mafia save her over Spirit so I think they were a V/W wagon. Glad I at least moved my vote off her to at least give her the chance in a tie.
I'm taking a couple pings of G-Man because I think he was the first to vote Spirit post Macs Early vote. Though I don't want to town clear him fully yet, I think he fully knows if he votes Tink there and it's a town flip, his goose is cooked. However he did cast shade on Spirit early in the phase, so he's in my wary group.
Not sure what to do about Mac's vote, and the last time I gave voter credit for Nutella it came back to bite me in the ass.
This some real bitch add shit right here. Immediately trying to cast doubt on the real motherfuckers. Go and get got boy.Fredwood wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:39 pm Fucking A...So clears Tink...no way does Mafia save her over Spirit so I think they were a V/W wagon. Glad I at least moved my vote off her to at least give her the chance in a tie.
I'm taking a couple pings of G-Man because I think he was the first to vote Spirit post Macs Early vote. Though I don't want to town clear him fully yet, I think he fully knows if he votes Tink there and it's a town flip, his goose is cooked. However he did cast shade on Spirit early in the phase, so he's in my wary group.
Not sure what to do about Mac's vote, and the last time I gave voter credit for Nutella it came back to bite me in the ass.
Yeah but a baddie tink wouldn't have voted for DDl in the first place, I didn't get a devious vibe for any reason for her to not vote G-man.boo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:46 pm Hmm, I'd go the other way with that. I think it mostly clears all of the spirit voters except for tink. I mean, it's by no means a sure thing any of them are good, but I certainly don't see us lynching any of them in the near future now.
Tink, on the other hand, I don't think is cleared at all. Spirit got piled on quickly, and a baddie tink would see that as an opportunity for some excellent cred to switch their vote there. Now that they're active(ish) it's worth bussing a teammate that got that kind of pile on since it can buy you more time, while making the future of said teammate extremely doubtful.
You sound like a homie. We can roll together.boo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:52 pm That being said... In her vote post, la said something that makes me wonder if Eloh is doing a certain civ Eloh thing... I don't really want to wander into that conjecture because I know people wouldn't appreciate it, but there are patterns all the same... I guess tink is clear enough for me if la doesn't flip her mind on that.
Agreed, I just don't like full clears without absolute certainity, as they lead to questionable theories that can really bite people in the ass.Fredwood wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:52 pmYeah but a baddie tink wouldn't have voted for DDl in the first place, I didn't get a devious vibe for any reason for her to not vote G-man.boo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:46 pm Hmm, I'd go the other way with that. I think it mostly clears all of the spirit voters except for tink. I mean, it's by no means a sure thing any of them are good, but I certainly don't see us lynching any of them in the near future now.
Tink, on the other hand, I don't think is cleared at all. Spirit got piled on quickly, and a baddie tink would see that as an opportunity for some excellent cred to switch their vote there. Now that they're active(ish) it's worth bussing a teammate that got that kind of pile on since it can buy you more time, while making the future of said teammate extremely doubtful.
Baddie Tink, or any Baddie would try to exploit my read on Gman I think. Especially since DDL had expressed a desire to vote G-man too.
I'm guess full clearing her is strong, but I'd rather suss out those on her wagon first, and then we can POE her later if it comes down to it.
I'd respond to this in an enthusiastic way, but Simon is hosting this game, so I want to keep it PG.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:53 pmYou sound like a homie. We can roll together.boo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:52 pm That being said... In her vote post, la said something that makes me wonder if Eloh is doing a certain civ Eloh thing... I don't really want to wander into that conjecture because I know people wouldn't appreciate it, but there are patterns all the same... I guess tink is clear enough for me if la doesn't flip her mind on that.