The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:46 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:45 pm NAA was the doctor?

I am confuse

I have no idea what NAA's play this game was and I have also been confused the whole time.

@NotAnAxehole

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:46 pm**

I get why NAA was projecting Nanook as the PR now. I guess when Scotty claimed it, it didn't occur to me that Scotty would be lying.

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:47 pm**

Or rather, no one cc'd him, so I think it was reasonable to assume he wasn't lying.

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:47 pm**

Like he knew Scotty was lying but validated his claim anyway.

Uh... weird gambit to dodge the next mafia kill?

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:47 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:44 pm Well played Nanook.

I assume hk was the godfather yeah?

HK was town

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:47 pm**

There's also the whole claiming to be cop with a blue result on naook yesterday too.

[shrugs]

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:48 pm**

wtf well played Scotty!

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:48 pm**

amazing reveal lol

ggs

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:48 pm**

i think scotty honestly could have carried if not for the jester shenanigans

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:49 pm**

I guess NAA just thought Scotty was the jester, which is kinda what Scotty himself was going for.

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:49 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:48 pm i think scotty honestly could have carried if not for the jester shenanigans

This tbh. Amazing game by Scotty.

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:50 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:47 pm Like he knew Scotty was lying but validated his claim anyway.

Uh... weird gambit to dodge the next mafia kill?

He might've thought Scotty was either Jester or laying cover for the real Doc.

Scotty was a pretty strong TR for a lot of people.

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:51 pm**

That was quite the ending.

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:52 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:48 pm i think scotty honestly could have carried if not for the jester shenanigans

Agreed. Nanook gets the W, Scotty gets the MVP.

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:52 pm**

Oh and this is why DDL dislikes CFDs.

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:55 pm**

Damn, I thought that Scotty had a good chance barring him bussing me in that.

Happy with how that ended though.

GGs

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:58 pm**

Oh btw.

This has been bothering me the whole game.

The mafia does NOT get to use the jester as shield in case of a red result.

All town has to do is demand the mafia to kill the red result next night. If they are still alive next day, it means either that was the goon, or mafia is gamethrowing. Mafia has to kill the result if they are the jester, because if town fulfills their promise and yeets the jester, the mafia loses too.

So the cop is actually pretty damn effective against jesters, unless they make the reveal in LyLo.

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:04 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:58 pm Oh btw.

This has been bothering me the whole game.

The mafia does NOT get to use the jester as shield in case of a red result.

All town has to do is demand the mafia to kill the red result next night. If they are still alive next day, it means either that was the goon, or mafia is gamethrowing. Mafia has to kill the result if they are the jester, because if town fulfills their promise and yeets the jester, the mafia loses too.

So the cop is actually pretty damn effective against jesters, unless they make the reveal in LyLo.

straight up that literally never occurred to me wtf. ok that's great.

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:07 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:20 pm It would be funny if nanook was actually jester

Wouldn't it tho

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:10 pm**

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:04 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:58 pm Oh btw.

This has been bothering me the whole game.

The mafia does NOT get to use the jester as shield in case of a red result.

All town has to do is demand the mafia to kill the red result next night. If they are still alive next day, it means either that was the goon, or mafia is gamethrowing. Mafia has to kill the result if they are the jester, because if town fulfills their promise and yeets the jester, the mafia loses too.

So the cop is actually pretty damn effective against jesters, unless they make the reveal in LyLo.
straight up that literally never occurred to me wtf. ok that's great.

First time I played this, the guy who created the setup was one of the players.

He really liked to school people on mech play. So he explained this right at the start.

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:11 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:52 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:48 pm i think scotty honestly could have carried if not for the jester shenanigans
Agreed. Nanook gets the W, Scotty gets the MVP.

Excuse me

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:12 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:58 pm Oh btw.

This has been bothering me the whole game.

The mafia does NOT get to use the jester as shield in case of a red result.

All town has to do is demand the mafia to kill the red result next night. If they are still alive next day, it means either that was the goon, or mafia is gamethrowing. Mafia has to kill the result if they are the jester, because if town fulfills their promise and yeets the jester, the mafia loses too.

So the cop is actually pretty damn effective against jesters, unless they make the reveal in LyLo.

Yeah lol, that was silly but I sure wasn't gonna say anything

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:20 pm**

I was freaking out at eod1 cause I refreshed the site with a minute left to self vote (I was tied for top at 2 with two or three minutes left)...and the site froze and woild not load until eod had passed. Thankfully Marmot moved so I didn't have to feel shitty about missing my chance to win lmao

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:21 pm**

I really thought axe had me as jester too tbh

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:28 pm**

Scum chat? Dead chat?

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:47 pm**

ggs this was fun watching!

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:47 pm**

dead chat: https://discord.gg/yZCZtTpC

ddl will have to link scum chat

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:52 pm**

Scum chat:

https://discord.gg/wfewTJs87U

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 6:43 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:46 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:45 pm NAA was the doctor?

I am confuse
I have no idea what NAA's play this game was and I have also been confused the whole time.

@NotAnAxehole

It wasn't a gambit, CCing in a Jester game didn't make much sense to me, Scotty was my top Jester read. If I appear to be the only one to not say anything / not believe Scotty's claim, I might as well out with a hard claim. I wanted to force mafia to shoot Nanook by saying I PR read him - he would be protected and would have lost as it turns out, but town decided to CFD him instead?

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 6:48 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:58 pm Oh btw.

This has been bothering me the whole game.

The mafia does NOT get to use the jester as shield in case of a red result.

All town has to do is demand the mafia to kill the red result next night. If they are still alive next day, it means either that was the goon, or mafia is gamethrowing. Mafia has to kill the result if they are the jester, because if town fulfills their promise and yeets the jester, the mafia loses too.

So the cop is actually pretty damn effective against jesters, unless they make the reveal in LyLo.

I wouldn't fault a mafia team for not killing the Jester in that situation.

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 6:48 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:11 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:52 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:48 pm i think scotty honestly could have carried if not for the jester shenanigans
Agreed. Nanook gets the W, Scotty gets the MVP.
Excuse me

Ok you also get the MVP, you did exactly what you needed to.

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 6:51 pm**

Nanook played well - but town should have understood that once you're on a target that isn't PR and isn't Jester, you kill. Idk if people had a Jester read on HK, but... I commented on that being unlikely yesterday.

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 6:54 pm**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 6:43 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:46 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:45 pm NAA was the doctor?

I am confuse
I have no idea what NAA's play this game was and I have also been confused the whole time.

@NotAnAxehole
It wasn't a gambit, CCing in a Jester game didn't make much sense to me, Scotty was my top Jester read. If I appear to be the only one to not say anything / not believe Scotty's claim, I might as well out with a hard claim. I wanted to force mafia to shoot Nanook by saying I PR read him - he would be protected and would have lost as it turns out, but town decided to CFD him instead?

I see.

I guess the cop thing was trying to control mafia's kill too?

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 6:56 pm**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 6:51 pm Nanook played well - but town should have understood that once you're on a target that isn't PR and isn't Jester, you kill. Idk if people had a Jester read on HK, but... I commented on that being unlikely yesterday.

I think you're right. I definitely felt more confident that hk was not the Jester than I felt about Nanook, but I also proposed that POE, and no one disagreed with it.

From my pov, Scotty was the doc, you and falcon were likely town and possibly Jester, which left a POE of hk/nanook. I didn't think killing hk first made a difference.

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 6:58 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 6:54 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 6:43 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:46 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:45 pm NAA was the doctor?

I am confuse
I have no idea what NAA's play this game was and I have also been confused the whole time.

@NotAnAxehole
It wasn't a gambit, CCing in a Jester game didn't make much sense to me, Scotty was my top Jester read. If I appear to be the only one to not say anything / not believe Scotty's claim, I might as well out with a hard claim. I wanted to force mafia to shoot Nanook by saying I PR read him - he would be protected and would have lost as it turns out, but town decided to CFD him instead?
I see.

I guess the cop thing was trying to control mafia's kill too?

Yeah, I wanted to direct the night kill onto Nanook who was protected every night.

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 6:59 pm**

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 6:59 pm**

Having a green check on Nanook there would have been game winning tbh.

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:01 pm**

Remember when DrWilgy had a redcheck on me?

Did people actually read me as Jester EOD3?

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:02 pm**

I would play this setup again in a heartbeat btw. One time wasn't enough.

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:03 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:02 pm I would play this setup again in a heartbeat btw. One time wasn't enough.

It is very replayable yeah.

If anyone wants to host it again sometime let me know cuz I would play it.

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:04 pm**

I didn’t think nanook was jester at all. Well done.
If I don’t decide to come out randomly as doctor today y’all probably don’t shift, right?

Because I was planning on killing nook tonite. I’m assuming doctor NAA would have protected him?

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:05 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:04 pm I didn’t think nanook was jester at all. Well done.
If I don’t decide to come out randomly as doctor today y’all probably don’t shift, right?

Because I was planning on killing nook tonite. I’m assuming doctor NAA would have protected him?

I think you're right. One of the big reasons I wasn't voting Nanook was NAA's confidence in the PR read.

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:06 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:01 pm Remember when DrWilgy had a redcheck on me?

Did people actually read me as Jester EOD3?

Yep. You or NAA in my mind

Wilgy made things more solidified in my mind even tho he never actually said he got a red check.

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:08 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:03 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:02 pm I would play this setup again in a heartbeat btw. One time wasn't enough.
It is very replayable yeah.

If anyone wants to host it again sometime let me know cuz I would play it.

Done

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:11 pm**

anyway, gg Nook! Thanks for the game DDL- was enjoyable and I was feeling so good today! Pesky jingle hat man

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:20 pm**

I was going to save Nanook, yeah.

Posted: **Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:32 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 6:48 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:11 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:52 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:48 pm i think scotty honestly could have carried if not for the jester shenanigans
Agreed. Nanook gets the W, Scotty gets the MVP.
Excuse me

Ok you also get the MVP, you did exactly what you needed to.

Ty for providing the validation i crave

Posted: **Wed Apr 13, 2022 11:31 am**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:14 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:09 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:08 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:05 am
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 12:56 am I mean it's fair. I see why you town read them. I just think it's a little too focused on one thing.
And from the way I see it Jester is more a threat to Mafia since they want the Jester alive for protection from Cop, but not lynched because they lose.
They also just happen to be in the best position to actually know if someone is a Jester or not, so I'm thinking a focus on the Jester seems a bit more likely to come from Mafia.
Depends on how people play as 3P. I've seen players try to townside or just fuck around and be a circus act.
Also feels like it could suck for town, because like you're pointing out now, it's a distraction as well. The jester gets the attention, mafia could choose to either hide in the background or partake to blend in.
Literally just a chaotic role.
I feel like one of you is Maf, tho I'm unsure who atm
What makes you think this?
The way you both interact...it just feels...off?

Anyways,

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

He's prolly Godfather

Shoulda stuck to my guns

Posted: **Wed Apr 13, 2022 11:49 am**

I think this was my first 3p rand on TS

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:12 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 11:49 am I think this was my first 3p rand on TS

Simple Arsonist might be considered a 3p rand

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