Team Fortress Mafia [END]

[Guillotine]

eh, I don't agree with Guillo's posts sussing LP bc I don't think that using a null person's meta read on someone else is actually AI but w/e

It's a behavioral contradiction from LP.

[LinearPoint]

I’m locking falcon town but Sabie being hedgy is pretty nai tbh

Aren't you like the only person voting Sabie?

[LinearPoint]

eh, I don't agree with Guillo's posts sussing LP bc I don't think that using a null person's meta read on someone else is actually AI but w/e

It's a behavioral contradiction from LP.

My dictation is not cotnra, thank you very much.

[Guillotine]

Town:
Nanook
Falcon
Dizzy
LP
Gavial
DrWilgy
Dolby
Guillo

8 towns, include me would make it 9.

That leaves....

Jack
Mac
Marmot
Martin
NAA
Sabie
Sig
TSP


So I'm in hopes that most of mafia are in the list of those 8. If I manage to get all of them in there then I'd be pretty happy.

Why are the bolded town. I'd be willing to cooperate with you to chop Sig then.

[Guillotine]

I kinda wanna live though so I can continue solving and making sure something stupid doesn’t go through like last minute wagon hits on like NAA, Martin or Dolby.

Wait.. did you just TMI Martin and Dolby town?

Ok fine. You can be scum

I retract my town read on you.

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

really?

Yah, really. Why wouldn't he want Martin, Dolby and NAA be hit with CFD then? Has he expressed a townread on all three?

[LinearPoint]

I still am having trouble deciding between Marmot and Gav.
The more I look at it the more likely I see a Gav-Falcon team. Falcon is right, i haven't seen Gav not hard push Falcon day 1 as a policy lynch so it seems like something is making him not want to which implies Maf buddies.
Gav was also confident in imediately throwing out that 1 Mafia in Gullio, Sean, Falcon. Falcon also seems a bit unsure if Gav is Town or Mafia which makes it look a bit more like a 2-way Mafia street.\
While Marmot is flaky i don't like Sabie's vote seeming to be opportunistic and I've already said Marmot being completely OK with being lynched doesn't quite seem Mafia to me when it wasn't like Marmot was really the top lynch.
It also feels weird to me Gav was so quick to claim with slight pressure when he was Town, but he's not here. I think I just need to see this flip honestly.
I would prefer Sabie though atm, but seeing as that's not a wagon I'll go with Gav as my gut for most likely Mafia of these 3.

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

[Guillotine]

I kinda wanna live though so I can continue solving and making sure something stupid doesn’t go through like last minute wagon hits on like NAA, Martin or Dolby.

Wait.. did you just TMI Martin and Dolby town?

Ok fine. You can be scum

I retract my town read on you.

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

really?

And this Guillo.
Is why Mac is town.

Why? This looks like a pocket attempt from you if Mac is town to be honest.

[sabie12]

Hmm I guess Marmot's disinterest is odd and could be mafia? If he were then he hasn't provided much interaction with anyone so he wouldn't be worried about giving away teammates if he gets voted off. I can never get a good read on Jack. If Jack is mafia he's better to get out earlier rather than later. Does gavial have a different playstyle when town or mafia? He always seems kinda all over the place.
Throwing a vote on marmot for now. Hoping to be able to come back later before EOD.
[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

I don't like this.
You're last post with Marmot was basically saying you felt the same about the game as they did.

Spoiler: show

@Marmot

Why are you way more low presence compared to Philo 2?

I keep forgetting I'm in a mafia game and am feeling lazy this game.

That happens to me when I haven't played in awhile. Any thoughts so far?

But now you are using it as a reason to vote them?
It just feels like this is coming from someone looking for an excuse to get on the wagon than a legitimate read.

Well I thought maybe he was going to come in and start participating now that he remembered he was playing. Then he just kinda said he didn't care and didn't provide anything else so I found that odd.

That's fair, any thoughts on Gav so far? I see you posted about Jack, but not Gav, so more just curious if you had more of a reason for Marmot over Gav.

I'm not sure about gav I feel like his theories don't make sense and could be deflection of attention from himself. I feel like he is so all over the place it's hard to pinpoint. I could see him as mafia this game. My initial hesitation was because I thought people jumped on his wagon pretty quick early on in the day. I was hoping maybe a vote on marmot would get him to post more but that maybe that was being too hopeful.

[MartinGG99]

Why wouldnt you lie about people’s meta as scum if the perception of a player’s neta can be different from player to player.

I can say that you bus your teammates as scum even though you never do and even if others know that you never do because guess what? I may have seen you bussing someone in a game where they didnt play.

LPs read on Falcon taking my read on on him at face value when he casted suspicion on me in the very same post is TMI and i will die on that hill, amigo.

Correct me if I'm wrong:

You think scum can lie and will lie about someone else's meta.

In theory, you have a point.

In practice, I doubt the belief voices that know differently wouldn't speak up. Besides, ultimately a person isn't going to trust meta about someone else that they don't know over their own conclusions unless they have nothing else to go off of. For example, Dyslexicon may have a valid & strong point about Seanzie's meta and posting so far but ultimately I'm probably going to hold my own conclusions at a higher level of consideration later on in the game.

Yah LP did though. He blindly trusted my meta read on fslcon to develop their read on falcon.

I would've bolded my point....but you already did that.

I was saying they seemingly had nothing to go off of.

Like I do for most people atm.

In that position there's no reason to not consider potentially correct meta about someone if you have no conclusions about someone; regardless who it comes from.

[Guillotine]

Reads

Town:
Lime Coke
Martin
Dolby
MacDougall

Mild Town:
LinearPoint
Sig
Sabie12
TonyStarkPrime

Null:
DrWilgy
falcon45ca
Jackofhearts2005
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
NotAnAxehole

Below Null:
Marmot
Seanzie

Wolf Pile:
Guillotine
Dyslexicon

(Guillo/Falcon/Sean) Contain at least 1 Wolf
(Marmot/Dizzy/Nanook/Lime Coke) Contain at least 1 Wolf
(Dizzy/Guillo) One flips Wolf, flip the other they probably also Wolf.

What if you and Dyslexicon are actually teammates and i was right about my read on both of you at game start. I dont like it that you keep saying that we are aligned. If you flip wolf i will look harder into Dyslexicon to be honest. You can't be so dumb to spew us both town at the same time, specially when your scum read on both of us started when Dyslexicon and I found common ground in one read.

[Guillotine]

What if Gavial and Dyslexicon have been hard distacing. I need to look at their interactions to see if it looks like scum theater.

[Guillotine]

I don’t know how one man can say I’m Townie 5 times in a row then vote me for “TMI”.

What a fella Guillo is eh?

We townies are wrong most of the time until we get it right. Scum expect static reads

[Guillotine]

I can possibly see a world where Jack is Mafia and Guillotine's vote on Gav being a desperation move to 50/50 the lynch so a Mafia isn't offed.
For now I'm going to switch to Marmot, but if people don't get on so we can actually decide a lynch instead of randoming it I'll throw my vote onto one of the other wagons.

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

You havent played with me before have you?

[MartinGG99]

I like LP's and Falcon's approach to the Marmot wagon as shown on pg 13 (at 50ppp)

I think I'll put them as decent towns for now yes I know I said falcon was town from gut feeling earlier but now I feel like I have a more tangible reason

[LinearPoint]

I can possibly see a world where Jack is Mafia and Guillotine's vote on Gav being a desperation move to 50/50 the lynch so a Mafia isn't offed.
For now I'm going to switch to Marmot, but if people don't get on so we can actually decide a lynch instead of randoming it I'll throw my vote onto one of the other wagons.

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

You havent played with me before have you?

Not that I am aware of.

[Guillotine]

I think Gav is Town. I know he likes to make mountains out of mole hills and has some bad case of tunnelvision.
But he does legitimately try to fish for other people to give their reads.
If this were a Mafia Gav I feel like he'd be trying to engage people less and focusing more on just running the game with his conspiracy theories.
The fact he is even wanting others to give opinions on who is Mafia is telling that this is Town Gav.

That being said if he flips Mafia he 100% TMId a lot of things from the fact that there is exactly 1 Mafia in Sean, Guillotine, Falcon to various people being Town with no reason for the town reads.

I don't think he's Mafia though.

Im town so if you are town, then look into Sean and Falcon and see what you find.

[MartinGG99]

I don't feel like a gav yeet is correct here but it feels like so much controversy has been generated around him; So I kinda want to see who jumps around onto other wagons or not because of it.

So I'll stay on Marmot.

[Guillotine]

I can possibly see a world where Jack is Mafia and Guillotine's vote on Gav being a desperation move to 50/50 the lynch so a Mafia isn't offed.
For now I'm going to switch to Marmot, but if people don't get on so we can actually decide a lynch instead of randoming it I'll throw my vote onto one of the other wagons.

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

You havent played with me before have you?

Not that I am aware of.

I never try to save my partners as scum. Ask anyone who played as a wolf with me. If you fuck up, if you act scummy, i'd be the first to push you to your death.

So desperation to save somebody is not something you'll see from scum Guillo because im highly capable of winning solo if i have to.

This is meta you can trust.

[falcon45ca]

I think Gav is Town. I know he likes to make mountains out of mole hills and has some bad case of tunnelvision.
But he does legitimately try to fish for other people to give their reads.
If this were a Mafia Gav I feel like he'd be trying to engage people less and focusing more on just running the game with his conspiracy theories.
The fact he is even wanting others to give opinions on who is Mafia is telling that this is Town Gav.

That being said if he flips Mafia he 100% TMId a lot of things from the fact that there is exactly 1 Mafia in Sean, Guillotine, Falcon to various people being Town with no reason for the town reads.

I don't think he's Mafia though.

I still am having trouble deciding between Marmot and Gav.
The more I look at it the more likely I see a Gav-Falcon team. Falcon is right, i haven't seen Gav not hard push Falcon day 1 as a policy lynch so it seems like something is making him not want to which implies Maf buddies.
Gav was also confident in imediately throwing out that 1 Mafia in Gullio, Sean, Falcon. Falcon also seems a bit unsure if Gav is Town or Mafia which makes it look a bit more like a 2-way Mafia street.\
While Marmot is flaky i don't like Sabie's vote seeming to be opportunistic and I've already said Marmot being completely OK with being lynched doesn't quite seem Mafia to me when it wasn't like Marmot was really the top lynch.
It also feels weird to me Gav was so quick to claim with slight pressure when he was Town, but he's not here. I think I just need to see this flip honestly.
I would prefer Sabie though atm, but seeing as that's not a wagon I'll go with Gav as my gut for most likely Mafia of these 3.

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

What? You think I'm hedgey on Gav?

[LinearPoint]

I think Gav is Town. I know he likes to make mountains out of mole hills and has some bad case of tunnelvision.
But he does legitimately try to fish for other people to give their reads.
If this were a Mafia Gav I feel like he'd be trying to engage people less and focusing more on just running the game with his conspiracy theories.
The fact he is even wanting others to give opinions on who is Mafia is telling that this is Town Gav.

That being said if he flips Mafia he 100% TMId a lot of things from the fact that there is exactly 1 Mafia in Sean, Guillotine, Falcon to various people being Town with no reason for the town reads.

I don't think he's Mafia though.

I still am having trouble deciding between Marmot and Gav.
The more I look at it the more likely I see a Gav-Falcon team. Falcon is right, i haven't seen Gav not hard push Falcon day 1 as a policy lynch so it seems like something is making him not want to which implies Maf buddies.
Gav was also confident in imediately throwing out that 1 Mafia in Gullio, Sean, Falcon. Falcon also seems a bit unsure if Gav is Town or Mafia which makes it look a bit more like a 2-way Mafia street.\
While Marmot is flaky i don't like Sabie's vote seeming to be opportunistic and I've already said Marmot being completely OK with being lynched doesn't quite seem Mafia to me when it wasn't like Marmot was really the top lynch.
It also feels weird to me Gav was so quick to claim with slight pressure when he was Town, but he's not here. I think I just need to see this flip honestly.
I would prefer Sabie though atm, but seeing as that's not a wagon I'll go with Gav as my gut for most likely Mafia of these 3.

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

What? You think I'm hedgey on Gav?

a bit yeah.

Gav could very well be Maf. He had an odd entrance re: my RNG POE, claiming later he liked the list (save LP)...it's a RNG list at the beginning of the game, there's nothing to like. Most of the player list hadn't even posted.


Then Gav said he'd sheep me. Now he has me as a null read, which is something that Gav rarely does w/ anybody, let alone myself. To date, in no game Gav & I have played has he ever had me as null. It's either town or scum, there's no in between w/ Gav


He's been soft on my slot, very out of character. I've made mention of it already. Gav is not really in his town range IMO. Definitely could be scum

This just kind of read to me as a possible Mafia who didn't want to say their partner was Town, but also didn't want to vote them in case they could somehow survive the day.

[Guillotine]

Hmm I guess Marmot's disinterest is odd and could be mafia? If he were then he hasn't provided much interaction with anyone so he wouldn't be worried about giving away teammates if he gets voted off. I can never get a good read on Jack. If Jack is mafia he's better to get out earlier rather than later. Does gavial have a different playstyle when town or mafia? He always seems kinda all over the place.
Throwing a vote on marmot for now. Hoping to be able to come back later before EOD.
[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

Marmot's disinterest is NAI for him. Ive seen him slank as either alignment.
Marmot is someone i'd recommend vigging if he does not contribute, not chop because his chop yields no info whatsoever except for maybe why people pushed him to his death maybe.m

[falcon45ca]

It's D1, of course I'm not sure if Gav is Maf.


I feel my thoughts on Gav are pretty clear, and to categorize them as hedgey or soft is pretty disingenuous IMO.

[Guillotine]

I don't feel like a gav yeet is correct here but it feels like so much controversy has been generated around him; So I kinda want to see who jumps around onto other wagons or not because of it.

So I'll stay on Marmot.

If Gavial is scum, expect a shitstorm from me for this post my dear friend.

Im bookmarking it.

[Dyslexicon]

What if Gavial and Dyslexicon have been hard distacing. I need to look at their interactions to see if it looks like scum theater.

Loooool

And I thought I was going to come into the thread in a better mood.

[falcon45ca]

I think Gav is Town. I know he likes to make mountains out of mole hills and has some bad case of tunnelvision.
But he does legitimately try to fish for other people to give their reads.
If this were a Mafia Gav I feel like he'd be trying to engage people less and focusing more on just running the game with his conspiracy theories.
The fact he is even wanting others to give opinions on who is Mafia is telling that this is Town Gav.

That being said if he flips Mafia he 100% TMId a lot of things from the fact that there is exactly 1 Mafia in Sean, Guillotine, Falcon to various people being Town with no reason for the town reads.

I don't think he's Mafia though.

I still am having trouble deciding between Marmot and Gav.
The more I look at it the more likely I see a Gav-Falcon team. Falcon is right, i haven't seen Gav not hard push Falcon day 1 as a policy lynch so it seems like something is making him not want to which implies Maf buddies.
Gav was also confident in imediately throwing out that 1 Mafia in Gullio, Sean, Falcon. Falcon also seems a bit unsure if Gav is Town or Mafia which makes it look a bit more like a 2-way Mafia street.\
While Marmot is flaky i don't like Sabie's vote seeming to be opportunistic and I've already said Marmot being completely OK with being lynched doesn't quite seem Mafia to me when it wasn't like Marmot was really the top lynch.
It also feels weird to me Gav was so quick to claim with slight pressure when he was Town, but he's not here. I think I just need to see this flip honestly.
I would prefer Sabie though atm, but seeing as that's not a wagon I'll go with Gav as my gut for most likely Mafia of these 3.

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

What? You think I'm hedgey on Gav?

a bit yeah.

Gav could very well be Maf. He had an odd entrance re: my RNG POE, claiming later he liked the list (save LP)...it's a RNG list at the beginning of the game, there's nothing to like. Most of the player list hadn't even posted.


Then Gav said he'd sheep me. Now he has me as a null read, which is something that Gav rarely does w/ anybody, let alone myself. To date, in no game Gav & I have played has he ever had me as null. It's either town or scum, there's no in between w/ Gav


He's been soft on my slot, very out of character. I've made mention of it already. Gav is not really in his town range IMO. Definitely could be scum

This just kind of read to me as a possible Mafia who didn't want to say their partner was Town, but also didn't want to vote them in case they could somehow survive the day.

Ah, so it's my lack of vote on Gav here that makes you think it's hedgey?


I don't vote everyone I think is scum all at once, I can only do it 1 at a time ya know

[Guillotine]

Hmm I guess Marmot's disinterest is odd and could be mafia? If he were then he hasn't provided much interaction with anyone so he wouldn't be worried about giving away teammates if he gets voted off. I can never get a good read on Jack. If Jack is mafia he's better to get out earlier rather than later. Does gavial have a different playstyle when town or mafia? He always seems kinda all over the place.
Throwing a vote on marmot for now. Hoping to be able to come back later before EOD.
[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

I don't like this.
You're last post with Marmot was basically saying you felt the same about the game as they did.

Spoiler: show

@Marmot

Why are you way more low presence compared to Philo 2?

I keep forgetting I'm in a mafia game and am feeling lazy this game.

That happens to me when I haven't played in awhile. Any thoughts so far?

But now you are using it as a reason to vote them?
It just feels like this is coming from someone looking for an excuse to get on the wagon than a legitimate read.

Look at this. A mindmeld.

LP might be town after all.

[Guillotine]

What if Gavial and Dyslexicon have been hard distacing. I need to look at their interactions to see if it looks like scum theater.

Loooool

And I thought I was going to come into the thread in a better mood.

Im just saying it is not impossible. Why overreact about it?

[LinearPoint]

I think Gav is Town. I know he likes to make mountains out of mole hills and has some bad case of tunnelvision.
But he does legitimately try to fish for other people to give their reads.
If this were a Mafia Gav I feel like he'd be trying to engage people less and focusing more on just running the game with his conspiracy theories.
The fact he is even wanting others to give opinions on who is Mafia is telling that this is Town Gav.

That being said if he flips Mafia he 100% TMId a lot of things from the fact that there is exactly 1 Mafia in Sean, Guillotine, Falcon to various people being Town with no reason for the town reads.

I don't think he's Mafia though.

Im town so if you are town, then look into Sean and Falcon and see what you find.

Sean I've felt has been Townie.
Their first post seemed to be town motivated even if the result would be bad for town.
The only thing really I don't like about them is the "mac is mafia for calling me mafia" line.
Not getting any real overall bad vibes from them, their reads don't feel forced.

Falcon I've been going back and forth between.
I still feel like their is something different about their play this game from the game I had with them as Town.
But their recent posts have been looking better though like I said it seems like it could be forced.
I only really would be confident in a Falcon Mafia if Gav flips Mafia though. Otherwise Falcon seems to be more of someone who just fundamentally I cannot see eye to eye with as we have similar notes on people, but very different conclusions.
Hard to tell for me if they are Town or Mafia though lean Mafia.

[Dyslexicon]

Im just saying it is not impossible. Why overreact about it?

I'm not "overreacting", I'm reacting because this game is [something]

[Guillotine]

Im just saying it is not impossible. Why overreact about it?

I'm not "overreacting", I'm reacting because this game is [something]

What's your read on Mac. You wolfed with him once in a mash

[MartinGG99]

I don't feel like a gav yeet is correct here but it feels like so much controversy has been generated around him; So I kinda want to see who jumps around onto other wagons or not because of it.

So I'll stay on Marmot.

If Gavial is scum, expect a shitstorm from me for this post my dear friend.

Im bookmarking it.

Tbh knowing you I can expect a shitstorm for anything in the holy name of parnoia over things like TMI

[TonyStarkPrime]

Sitting in a passenger seat with a 16 year old driver drowning out bad music with incredibly loud Steve reich and Taylor swift in my earbuds here to play mafia

[TonyStarkPrime]

How did I grow up with a brother who’s into imagine dragons and hair metal

[TonyStarkPrime]

Like he likes two genres

[Guillotine]

I, too, have been fooled a few times by mafia jack. I feel like I can never read him. I'm not sure I've ever seen mafia falcon or just don't remember so not sure if there is a difference, but I didn't see anything outright scummy with him so far. Gavial I think is also a bit harder to read. I saw that people kind of jumped on voting him pretty quick into the day.

Pls more prescriptive less descriptive statements

Sure I can elaborate. I don't think we can judge Jack's alignment yet as he hasn't been here even if he has been tricky in the past. I was unsure as to why everyone jumped so quickly on the gav train so early on. I guess that stems from me taking a little longer to process things in the beginning of games before figuring things out. From my experience, I feel like there are sometimes players who often get scumread early on whether they are town or scum. I've seen this happen to sig and to gavial for example and it seems to have happened here.

Why is Jack not judgeable but Marmot is if both player's presence have been lacking in this game?

[Guillotine]

I don't feel like a gav yeet is correct here but it feels like so much controversy has been generated around him; So I kinda want to see who jumps around onto other wagons or not because of it.

So I'll stay on Marmot.

If Gavial is scum, expect a shitstorm from me for this post my dear friend.

Im bookmarking it.

Tbh knowing you I can expect a shitstorm for anything in the holy name of parnoia over things like TMI

Funny, i never said anything about TMI. Why did you think it was?

[Dyslexicon]

Im just saying it is not impossible. Why overreact about it?

I'm not "overreacting", I'm reacting because this game is [something]

What's your read on Mac. You wolfed with him once in a mash

He hasn't done much, but I actually have a sneaking feeling he's town. There are reasons and I don't want to share them yet.
I miss ANYONE that I know and has a similar play style to me to come out with a comprehensive game view at this point.
@MacDougall Though he's probably asleep.

I don't remember the mash lol, but I've played with him a bunch.

[MartinGG99]

I don't feel like a gav yeet is correct here but it feels like so much controversy has been generated around him; So I kinda want to see who jumps around onto other wagons or not because of it.

So I'll stay on Marmot.

If Gavial is scum, expect a shitstorm from me for this post my dear friend.

Im bookmarking it.

Tbh knowing you I can expect a shitstorm for anything in the holy name of parnoia over things like TMI

Funny, i never said anything about TMI. Why did you think it was?

Because you did in the past already lol

[MartinGG99]

Like you are dead-set on looking out for any possible TMI

LPs read on Falcon taking my read on on him at face value when he casted suspicion on me in the very same post is TMI and i will die on that hill, amigo.

[MartinGG99]

And it happens like every game

I presume its part of your scum-game to replicate just because you're that paranoid that often

[Guillotine]

I don't feel like a gav yeet is correct here but it feels like so much controversy has been generated around him; So I kinda want to see who jumps around onto other wagons or not because of it.

So I'll stay on Marmot.

If Gavial is scum, expect a shitstorm from me for this post my dear friend.

Im bookmarking it.

Tbh knowing you I can expect a shitstorm for anything in the holy name of parnoia over things like TMI

Funny, i never said anything about TMI. Why did you think it was?

Because you did in the past already lol

Yah and i have been right.

[Guillotine]

Question is would Martin be so obvious trying to save scum!Gavial?

[LinearPoint]

Martin why are you still voting Marmot?
You RVS voted them and never changed to a serious vote.
Now that Marmot is tied for most why not switch off? You haven't even really commented on any of the wagons besides Gav's.

[Seanzie]

Okay, I read up. I downgrade Mac from >>rand!scum to >rand!scum because I didn't understand the context of one of his posts that led me to upgrade him to >>rand!scum in the first place.

Marmot likely a hit here because when I scummed with Marmot a few weeks ago, he talked about how he has forgotten how to scum, and thus far it looks like that is happening here again.

However, I decided to not vote for either of them and instead vote for someone I haven't talked anything about thus far. So... take that for what you will.

[Guillotine]

For the love of God i hope Gavial is scum

[LinearPoint]

Such an interesting poll for day end.
Seems like it comes down to the vote manipulators who gets lynched.

[TonyStarkPrime]

N1 medic should probably be on 50/50 between the two abilities

Rocket guy can do whatever, probably take the vote day 1 and not sure from there

Pyro should only be using air blast if anything and probably nothing for now
Sniper should claim if there are votes on them to draw mafia actions maybe can get guided if necessary
I have opinions on heavy but I’m not going to share them
Demoman should be straight up blocking every night, might sticky bombs exactly n1 though
Scouts should probably baseball bat day 1
I think one? Engineer should claim now, and we can set up a system to test whether they’re town or mafia. But I don’t understand the engineer power so idk


General setup note: counterwagons are interesting but should probably be avoided. Lots of ways for wolves to hit extra vote power

[TonyStarkPrime]

Oops I pressed post too early

[Guillotine]

Such an interesting poll for day end.
Seems like it comes down to the vote manipulators who gets lynched.

This is why we should compromise on someone instead of splitting the poll.

[Seanzie]

N1 medic should probably be on 50/50 between the two abilities

Rocket guy can do whatever, probably take the vote day 1 and not sure from there

Pyro should only be using air blast if anything and probably nothing for now
Sniper should claim if there are votes on them to draw mafia actions maybe can get guided if necessary
I have opinions on heavy but I’m not going to share them
Demoman should be straight up blocking every night, might sticky bombs exactly n1 though
Scouts should probably baseball bat day 1
I think one? Engineer should claim now, and we can set up a system to test whether they’re town or mafia. But I don’t understand the engineer power so idk


General setup note: counterwagons are interesting but should probably be avoided. Lots of ways for wolves to hit extra vote power

same logic applies to vanity votes. so... ?