Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]

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maybe i will be here, because i can't seem to look away. this is the problem with a work-from-home job.
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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Sloonei wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:10 pm maybe i will be here, because i can't seem to look away. this is the problem with a work-from-home job.
I have no plans on helping you live through the day. But my Spidey sense says that you will somehow.
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My night opened up so I’ll be around for eod
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Good morning, i fell asleep earlier smh
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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NotAnAxehole wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:12 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:10 pm maybe i will be here, because i can't seem to look away. this is the problem with a work-from-home job.
I have no plans on helping you live through the day. But my Spidey sense says that you will somehow.
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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Golden wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:54 pm I’m not going to vote Sloonei and if he’s lynched and flips the role I think he’ll flip I’ll explain why.

I don’t like G-Man’s vote on me at all, a full no u.

Still don’t trust Quin today but it seems like not many agree with me.

I think the town has an eye on Elo and I don’t expect her survival to mean a free ride, so I’m not voting there today.

Axe is actively harmful to the town. That’s different from being mafia. I suspect a role hint exists here as well. Frustrating, makes me want to throw a vote to eliminate the chaos but my better instincts say, let’s see what happens today and re-evaluate.

I’ve gone back and forth on Vivax today and I’m back to feeling not great, but when I do feel good it’s because of solvey behaviour that I’m not keen to eliminate.

No one else has pinged me beyond a stray eye.
All right keep your cake RE: Sloonei.

I’d vote Quin today tho.
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Voters: Sloonei
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Voters: juliets, Matahari, S~V~S, RondoDimBuckle, JaggedJimmyJay, Dyslexicon, NateTheLesser, nutella, MacDougall, lucy, Sabiplz, hollowkatt, Spacedaisy, Epignosis
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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thellama73 wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:37 pm
sig wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:33 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:32 pm
thellama73 wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:23 pm Lots of vote switching going on without people posting about it. Very suspicious.
There is nothing less alignment indicative.
Llama is just having some old school thoughts on this. He came from the days of 1 vote no switching so that makes sense.
That, and I really dislike it when people try to dissuade me from analyzing data. "No! Don't look at that, it means nothing! Look over here instead!" That does not seem like a productive attitude to take. It's what S~V~S used to call "stifling discussion" (even though she always accused me of doing it). I don't like Scotty telling me not to suspect Axe Body Spray, and I don't like Axe Body Spray telling me not to be suspicious of silent vote switching. I'll suspect who and what I want!
Well I demand that you think for yourself and not be taken in by others’ whims. Can you do that for me?
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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Scotty wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:15 pm
thellama73 wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:37 pm
sig wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:33 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:32 pm
thellama73 wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:23 pm Lots of vote switching going on without people posting about it. Very suspicious.
There is nothing less alignment indicative.
Llama is just having some old school thoughts on this. He came from the days of 1 vote no switching so that makes sense.
That, and I really dislike it when people try to dissuade me from analyzing data. "No! Don't look at that, it means nothing! Look over here instead!" That does not seem like a productive attitude to take. It's what S~V~S used to call "stifling discussion" (even though she always accused me of doing it). I don't like Scotty telling me not to suspect Axe Body Spray, and I don't like Axe Body Spray telling me not to be suspicious of silent vote switching. I'll suspect who and what I want!
Well I demand that you think for yourself and not be taken in by others’ whims. Can you do that for me?
Don't tell me what to do.
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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Elohcin wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:38 pm
Michelle wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:30 pm There are so many people not voting :(
I only vote early if I'm not going to be around close to the vote. It's the way it used to be when there were no changing votes. The introduction of movable votes brought nothing but chaos to end of day. I don't like chaos. I don't like movable votes.
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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NotAnAxehole wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:07 pm
sig wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:57 pm
Golden wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:54 pm
Axe is actively harmful to the town. That’s different from being mafia. I suspect a role hint exists here as well. Frustrating, makes me want to throw a vote to eliminate the chaos but my better instincts say, let’s see what happens today and re-evaluate.

I’ve gone back and forth on Vivax today and I’m back to feeling not great, but when I do feel good it’s because of solvey behaviour that I’m not keen to eliminate.

No one else has pinged me beyond a stray eye.

Yea Axe usually harms the town as town. I can’t recall his mafia game play though.

I’m also back and forth on Vivax he seems both trying to solve and also just trying to just find what will stick.
I mean, we have different definitions on what is harmful to town and I would prefer if you didn't play into a narrative that has been primarily held by people who actively berate me in game in a very problematic way.
I do not mean to berate you. I don’t know you at all or what narratives are said about you.

But you make me nervous. You are brazen in your lack of care for what the norms around role madness might be and why (from a town perspective). It’s a choice, and it’s your choice. I don’t mean to criticise you playing the way you want, but I still have to evaluate where your perspective is coming from.
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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Kate wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:26 pm
Michelle wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:21 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:13 pm CURRENT VOTE TOTAL as of ~4 hours until end of day 1:

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Sloonei (4): fingersplints, sig, Vivax, thellama73
Elohcin (2): Michelle, Quin
Scotty (2): Kate, NotAnAxeHole
LoRab (1): Scotty
Golden (1): DrWilgy
Quin (1): Golden
Vivax (1): Sloonei

Not voting: bea, DFaraday, DharmaHelper, Elohcin, GMan, LoRab
I town read this activity. Town needs these VCs later in the game
You consider making a VC post as civ behavior? Just to be clear what you're saying here.
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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Sloonei wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:34 pm I will not be able to be active for the last hour and a half. I don't have a strong suspect. Oh well.
You’re one of the most active posters and don’t even have a strong suspect.

See, here’s the rub. Unfortunately, as one of Syndicate’s champions from Champs a few years ago, you have a huge precedent. Whether or not it’s fair, I think there’s a high expectation of you. If you’re town, you’re bound to be a valuable asset down the stretch.

I’m just not getting that spark that I expect.

You being here at end of day while you’re the top wagon is frustrating, but not offering a worthwhile alternative is just not a great solution either :shrug2:
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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Elohcin wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:09 pm
Golden wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:05 pm
Elohcin wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:01 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:54 pm
Elohcin wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:42 pm linki: see, event that post Sloon just made about not being around before the vote. just blech.
linki again....can I post now?
Why is it bad that I won't be here? The world won't stop spinning. I have real life obligations to attend to.
I understand obligations. It was your tone. You didn't try to get a read to make an informed vote before leaving. Your exact words were "Oh well."
It’s the first thing Sloonei has done in the game that actually does feel scummish to me, this can absolutely be real life but it can also be antispew. If Sloonei is lynched and flips bad it’s a good look on vivax, I don’t think you go into antispew and vote a teammate.
"antispew" is a new term to me.
Stop speaking so as to it incriminate teammates.

But he’s hung around and kept speaking, so… not really.
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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Sloonei wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:10 pm maybe i will be here, because i can't seem to look away. this is the problem with a work-from-home job.
I’m currently working on the clock at my WFH job :slick:
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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Golden wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:18 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:07 pm
sig wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:57 pm
Golden wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:54 pm
Axe is actively harmful to the town. That’s different from being mafia. I suspect a role hint exists here as well. Frustrating, makes me want to throw a vote to eliminate the chaos but my better instincts say, let’s see what happens today and re-evaluate.

I’ve gone back and forth on Vivax today and I’m back to feeling not great, but when I do feel good it’s because of solvey behaviour that I’m not keen to eliminate.

No one else has pinged me beyond a stray eye.

Yea Axe usually harms the town as town. I can’t recall his mafia game play though.

I’m also back and forth on Vivax he seems both trying to solve and also just trying to just find what will stick.
I mean, we have different definitions on what is harmful to town and I would prefer if you didn't play into a narrative that has been primarily held by people who actively berate me in game in a very problematic way.
I do not mean to berate you. I don’t know you at all or what narratives are said about you.

But you make me nervous. You are brazen in your lack of care for what the norms around role madness might be and why (from a town perspective). It’s a choice, and it’s your choice. I don’t mean to criticise you playing the way you want, but I still have to evaluate where your perspective is coming from.
I'm not talking about you, it's why I replied to Sig and not you because he should know better, and better understand that the narrative he is spreading came from people who harassed me every game.

We can drop it ;) heavy topic.
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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sig wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:20 pm
Michelle wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:30 pm There are so many people not voting :(
This posts feels icky
The vote is villagers weapon in the thread. Why not use it?
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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NotAnAxehole wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:12 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:10 pm maybe i will be here, because i can't seem to look away. this is the problem with a work-from-home job.
I have no plans on helping you live through the day. But my Spidey sense says that you will somehow.
This is, like… repetitive and quite insistent hinting at this point.

Makes today’s lynch feel irrelevant.
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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Quin's move on DH looks townie to me. Too unique for scum, maybe?
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Quin wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:50 am Sike.

[VOTE: DharmaHelper] aubergine

He posts, yet he says nothing.
Quin wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:56 am
Golden wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:41 am
Quin wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:16 am
Golden wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:45 am
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NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:39 pm
Scotty wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:39 pm I voted bea because
A) she is extremely cheery
B) she is the first in the poll
C) I don’t know if it’s pronounced “bay” or “bee” or “bah-ee”
But mainly e) her first post was quoting another post, which is suspicious.

Boom! Roasted.
I voted Bea.
I like Axe for this. The read itself is mixed up in a bunch of fluff (on Page 2 even, fluff city), but there's substance that most people skimming the thread would have looked over the first time. It's a no nonsense vote and it's super early in the game.
What is the substance?
Scotty has a problem with bea opening with a quote.
I see that about Scotty. It's not clear to me (especially given the rest of Aex's content) why Axe is voting for bea in this post. Plus, I'm pretty sure he didn't vote for bea. He just voted for Scotty.
:shrug: If he said he voted for her, all I can do is assume he voted for her. It reads to me like Axe read Scotty's post, liked the meat of it, and joined in. bea absolutely had a train going yesterday, because I looked at it and went "no" before continuing to do absolutely nothing about it.
Quin wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:59 am
DharmaHelper wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:55 am
Quin wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:50 am Sike.

[VOTE: DharmaHelper] aubergine

He posts, yet he says nothing.
Then you've not read my posts.
Your ISO is the mafia equivalent of a False Hydra.
Scotty and Golden, do you want to hold on to that scumread ?
I might be backing off Sloonei solely for reaching the same conclusion. Don't know where to go yet.
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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Sloonei wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:58 pm
Golden wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:54 pm Still don’t trust Quin today but it seems like not many agree with me.
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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Michelle wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:21 pm
sig wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:20 pm
Michelle wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:30 pm There are so many people not voting :(
This posts feels icky
The vote is villagers weapon in the thread. Why not use it?
Classic Syndicate games had a much different attitude towards votes than what we are used to today.
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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Golden wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:18 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:07 pm
sig wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:57 pm
Golden wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:54 pm
Axe is actively harmful to the town. That’s different from being mafia. I suspect a role hint exists here as well. Frustrating, makes me want to throw a vote to eliminate the chaos but my better instincts say, let’s see what happens today and re-evaluate.

I’ve gone back and forth on Vivax today and I’m back to feeling not great, but when I do feel good it’s because of solvey behaviour that I’m not keen to eliminate.

No one else has pinged me beyond a stray eye.

Yea Axe usually harms the town as town. I can’t recall his mafia game play though.

I’m also back and forth on Vivax he seems both trying to solve and also just trying to just find what will stick.
I mean, we have different definitions on what is harmful to town and I would prefer if you didn't play into a narrative that has been primarily held by people who actively berate me in game in a very problematic way.
I do not mean to berate you. I don’t know you at all or what narratives are said about you.

But you make me nervous. You are brazen in your lack of care for what the norms around role madness might be and why (from a town perspective). It’s a choice, and it’s your choice. I don’t mean to criticise you playing the way you want, but I still have to evaluate where your perspective is coming from.
It's no just a lack of caring for the norms around role madness though, I have very different ideas on how to play mafia in general!
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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Bea, Dfaraday, Eloh, and Lorab yet to vote with about a half hour to go.

Eloh, since you're around, any thoughts on where you plan to vote?
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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Michelle wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:15 pm
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Poll runs till Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:00 am
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bea
0
No votes
Voters: None
DFaraday
0
No votes
Voters: None
DharmaHelper
0
No votes
Voters: None
DrWilgy
0
No votes
Voters: None
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Voters: Quin, Michelle
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Voters: None
G-Man
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Voters: DharmaHelper
Golden
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Voters: G-Man, DrWilgy
Kate
0
No votes
Voters: None
thellama73
0
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Voters: None
Lorab
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4%
Voters: Scotty
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
NotAnAxehole
0
No votes
Voters: None
Quin
1
4%
Voters: Golden
Scotty
1
4%
Voters: Kate
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1
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Voters: sig
Sloonei
4
14%
Voters: NotAnAxehole, fingersplints, Vivax, thellama73
Vivax
1
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Voters: Sloonei
Atlas (The Host, the Non, the Dead)
14
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Voters: juliets, Matahari, S~V~S, RondoDimBuckle, JaggedJimmyJay, Dyslexicon, NateTheLesser, nutella, MacDougall, lucy, Sabiplz, hollowkatt, Spacedaisy, Epignosis
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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Michelle wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:18 pm
Elohcin wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:38 pm
Michelle wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:30 pm There are so many people not voting :(
I only vote early if I'm not going to be around close to the vote. It's the way it used to be when there were no changing votes. The introduction of movable votes brought nothing but chaos to end of day. I don't like chaos. I don't like movable votes.
I didn't know that. I think the eod chaos as you call it is a good moment to check reads
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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Elohcin wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:24 pm
Michelle wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:15 pm
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Voters: None
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Voters: Scotty
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
NotAnAxehole
0
No votes
Voters: None
Quin
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4%
Voters: Golden
Scotty
1
4%
Voters: Kate
sig
1
4%
Voters: sig
Sloonei
4
14%
Voters: NotAnAxehole, fingersplints, Vivax, thellama73
Vivax
1
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Voters: Sloonei
Atlas (The Host, the Non, the Dead)
14
50%
Voters: juliets, Matahari, S~V~S, RondoDimBuckle, JaggedJimmyJay, Dyslexicon, NateTheLesser, nutella, MacDougall, lucy, Sabiplz, hollowkatt, Spacedaisy, Epignosis
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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I am generally in favor of end-of-day chaos. It is easier to react instinctively when you're not lying.
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Scotty wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:19 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:34 pm I will not be able to be active for the last hour and a half. I don't have a strong suspect. Oh well.
You’re one of the most active posters and don’t even have a strong suspect.

See, here’s the rub. Unfortunately, as one of Syndicate’s champions from Champs a few years ago, you have a huge precedent. Whether or not it’s fair, I think there’s a high expectation of you. If you’re town, you’re bound to be a valuable asset down the stretch.

I’m just not getting that spark that I expect.

You being here at end of day while you’re the top wagon is frustrating, but not offering a worthwhile alternative is just not a great solution either :shrug2:
I don't think the best vote is Sloonei D1 but you made a pretty strong case
There were some micro towny moments from him though, I don't have time to search for them now
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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Scotty wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:19 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:34 pm I will not be able to be active for the last hour and a half. I don't have a strong suspect. Oh well.
You’re one of the most active posters and don’t even have a strong suspect.

See, here’s the rub. Unfortunately, as one of Syndicate’s champions from Champs a few years ago, you have a huge precedent. Whether or not it’s fair, I think there’s a high expectation of you. If you’re town, you’re bound to be a valuable asset down the stretch.

I’m just not getting that spark that I expect.

You being here at end of day while you’re the top wagon is frustrating, but not offering a worthwhile alternative is just not a great solution either :shrug2:
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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[VOTE: Quin] aubergine
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Not around for the last half hour.

Vote stays on Quin. Final answer.
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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Michelle wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:19 pm
Kate wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:26 pm
Michelle wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:21 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:13 pm CURRENT VOTE TOTAL as of ~4 hours until end of day 1:

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Sloonei (4): fingersplints, sig, Vivax, thellama73
Elohcin (2): Michelle, Quin
Scotty (2): Kate, NotAnAxeHole
LoRab (1): Scotty
Golden (1): DrWilgy
Quin (1): Golden
Vivax (1): Sloonei

Not voting: bea, DFaraday, DharmaHelper, Elohcin, GMan, LoRab
I town read this activity. Town needs these VCs later in the game
You consider making a VC post as civ behavior? Just to be clear what you're saying here.
Yes, you are correct
Wouldn't it make equally as much sense that a NON civ made one? Whether for informational purposes, to gain favor with the thread in general or, most importantly, to appear civ?
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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Elohcin wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:26 pm
Michelle wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:18 pm
Elohcin wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:38 pm
Michelle wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:30 pm There are so many people not voting :(
I only vote early if I'm not going to be around close to the vote. It's the way it used to be when there were no changing votes. The introduction of movable votes brought nothing but chaos to end of day. I don't like chaos. I don't like movable votes.
I didn't know that. I think the eod chaos as you call it is a good moment to check reads
We'll have to agree to disagree. Are you catching up backwards?
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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Golden and Axe have opened my eyes to a very real possibility, and I would rather not eliminate Sloonei today.

It would explain his gameplay today.
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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Yes I saw sloonei’s defence of Quin and it’s true Quin went in looking for evidence of w/w and modified based on evidence. But he’s the one who has pinged me most with other stuff, and I don’t think ‘trying to build a w/w connection and not finding it’ is inherently town.
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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Kate wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:29 pm
Michelle wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:19 pm
Kate wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:26 pm
Michelle wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:21 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:13 pm CURRENT VOTE TOTAL as of ~4 hours until end of day 1:

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Elohcin (2): Michelle, Quin
Scotty (2): Kate, NotAnAxeHole
LoRab (1): Scotty
Golden (1): DrWilgy
Quin (1): Golden
Vivax (1): Sloonei

Not voting: bea, DFaraday, DharmaHelper, Elohcin, GMan, LoRab
I town read this activity. Town needs these VCs later in the game
You consider making a VC post as civ behavior? Just to be clear what you're saying here.
Yes, you are correct
Wouldn't it make equally as much sense that a NON civ made one? Whether for informational purposes, to gain favor with the thread in general or, most importantly, to appear civ?
Everything is possible but I went with my gut there

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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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Michelle wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:21 pm
sig wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:20 pm
Michelle wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:30 pm There are so many people not voting :(
This posts feels icky
The vote is villagers weapon in the thread. Why not use it?
Gotta agree. Care to elaborate why it felt icky?
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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NotAnAxehole wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:23 pm
Golden wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:18 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:07 pm
sig wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:57 pm
Golden wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:54 pm
Axe is actively harmful to the town. That’s different from being mafia. I suspect a role hint exists here as well. Frustrating, makes me want to throw a vote to eliminate the chaos but my better instincts say, let’s see what happens today and re-evaluate.

I’ve gone back and forth on Vivax today and I’m back to feeling not great, but when I do feel good it’s because of solvey behaviour that I’m not keen to eliminate.

No one else has pinged me beyond a stray eye.

Yea Axe usually harms the town as town. I can’t recall his mafia game play though.

I’m also back and forth on Vivax he seems both trying to solve and also just trying to just find what will stick.
I mean, we have different definitions on what is harmful to town and I would prefer if you didn't play into a narrative that has been primarily held by people who actively berate me in game in a very problematic way.
I do not mean to berate you. I don’t know you at all or what narratives are said about you.

But you make me nervous. You are brazen in your lack of care for what the norms around role madness might be and why (from a town perspective). It’s a choice, and it’s your choice. I don’t mean to criticise you playing the way you want, but I still have to evaluate where your perspective is coming from.
It's no just a lack of caring for the norms around role madness though, I have very different ideas on how to play mafia in general!
But you signed up for an old school game. So, you should act like it.
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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Scotty wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:29 pm Golden and Axe have opened my eyes to a very real possibility, and I would rather not eliminate Sloonei today.

It would explain his gameplay today.
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Oh god the linki to get that through!
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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Michelle wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:31 pm
Kate wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:29 pm
Michelle wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:19 pm
Kate wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:26 pm
Michelle wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:21 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:13 pm CURRENT VOTE TOTAL as of ~4 hours until end of day 1:

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Sloonei (4): fingersplints, sig, Vivax, thellama73
Elohcin (2): Michelle, Quin
Scotty (2): Kate, NotAnAxeHole
LoRab (1): Scotty
Golden (1): DrWilgy
Quin (1): Golden
Vivax (1): Sloonei

Not voting: bea, DFaraday, DharmaHelper, Elohcin, GMan, LoRab
I town read this activity. Town needs these VCs later in the game
You consider making a VC post as civ behavior? Just to be clear what you're saying here.
Yes, you are correct
Wouldn't it make equally as much sense that a NON civ made one? Whether for informational purposes, to gain favor with the thread in general or, most importantly, to appear civ?
Everything is possible but I went with my gut there

I am always posting my ideas to check l them with everyone
Duly noted.
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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Scotty wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:19 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:34 pm I will not be able to be active for the last hour and a half. I don't have a strong suspect. Oh well.
You’re one of the most active posters and don’t even have a strong suspect.

See, here’s the rub. Unfortunately, as one of Syndicate’s champions from Champs a few years ago, you have a huge precedent. Whether or not it’s fair, I think there’s a high expectation of you. If you’re town, you’re bound to be a valuable asset down the stretch.

I’m just not getting that spark that I expect.

You being here at end of day while you’re the top wagon is frustrating, but not offering a worthwhile alternative is just not a great solution either :shrug2:
I'm not about forcing myself to have reads. I will have a suspect when I have a suspect. I have presented some loose thoughts on Vivax as a suspect. I do not object to the Elohcin suspicions. But as for having a clear and definite Day 1 suspect, I cannot offer much guidance.
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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thellama73 wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:23 pm Bea, Dfaraday, Eloh, and Lorab yet to vote with about a half hour to go.

Eloh, since you're around, any thoughts on where you plan to vote?
yes, top is vivax and second is sloonei, both for previously mentioned reasons. I am waiting to see how things go b/c I'm scared with the movable voting
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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Elohcin wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:31 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:23 pm
Golden wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:18 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:07 pm
sig wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:57 pm
Golden wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:54 pm
Axe is actively harmful to the town. That’s different from being mafia. I suspect a role hint exists here as well. Frustrating, makes me want to throw a vote to eliminate the chaos but my better instincts say, let’s see what happens today and re-evaluate.

I’ve gone back and forth on Vivax today and I’m back to feeling not great, but when I do feel good it’s because of solvey behaviour that I’m not keen to eliminate.

No one else has pinged me beyond a stray eye.

Yea Axe usually harms the town as town. I can’t recall his mafia game play though.

I’m also back and forth on Vivax he seems both trying to solve and also just trying to just find what will stick.
I mean, we have different definitions on what is harmful to town and I would prefer if you didn't play into a narrative that has been primarily held by people who actively berate me in game in a very problematic way.
I do not mean to berate you. I don’t know you at all or what narratives are said about you.

But you make me nervous. You are brazen in your lack of care for what the norms around role madness might be and why (from a town perspective). It’s a choice, and it’s your choice. I don’t mean to criticise you playing the way you want, but I still have to evaluate where your perspective is coming from.
It's no just a lack of caring for the norms around role madness though, I have very different ideas on how to play mafia in general!
But you signed up for an old school game. So, you should act like it.
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

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Elohcin wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:31 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:23 pm
Golden wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:18 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:07 pm
sig wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:57 pm
Golden wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:54 pm
Axe is actively harmful to the town. That’s different from being mafia. I suspect a role hint exists here as well. Frustrating, makes me want to throw a vote to eliminate the chaos but my better instincts say, let’s see what happens today and re-evaluate.

I’ve gone back and forth on Vivax today and I’m back to feeling not great, but when I do feel good it’s because of solvey behaviour that I’m not keen to eliminate.

No one else has pinged me beyond a stray eye.

Yea Axe usually harms the town as town. I can’t recall his mafia game play though.

I’m also back and forth on Vivax he seems both trying to solve and also just trying to just find what will stick.
I mean, we have different definitions on what is harmful to town and I would prefer if you didn't play into a narrative that has been primarily held by people who actively berate me in game in a very problematic way.
I do not mean to berate you. I don’t know you at all or what narratives are said about you.

But you make me nervous. You are brazen in your lack of care for what the norms around role madness might be and why (from a town perspective). It’s a choice, and it’s your choice. I don’t mean to criticise you playing the way you want, but I still have to evaluate where your perspective is coming from.
It's no just a lack of caring for the norms around role madness though, I have very different ideas on how to play mafia in general!
But you signed up for an old school game. So, you should act like it.
I mean…I don’t even know what that means. Typewriters and chewing tobacco?

I am giving Axe the benefit of the doubt today. I don’t view his stuff as anti town, more than a wild card here on D1.
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
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Golden wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:30 pm Yes I saw sloonei’s defence of Quin and it’s true Quin went in looking for evidence of w/w and modified based on evidence. But he’s the one who has pinged me most with other stuff, and I don’t think ‘trying to build a w/w connection and not finding it’ is inherently town.
To be clear, I am less interested in what Quin's reads actually are. I read him as town because of the way he communicated them.
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One thing that bothered me about Quin was that he demanded an explanation for why I placed him low on my rainbow list, a request I deliberately ignored, and then he never followed up on it. Like he didn't actually care about finding out the answer. I'm tempted to switch my vote. But will I?
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.

I don't want to live in that universe.
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Golden wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:32 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:29 pm Golden and Axe have opened my eyes to a very real possibility, and I would rather not eliminate Sloonei today.

It would explain his gameplay today.
This is role madness. Gotta watch for this stuff.
Yes, he just wasn’t so blatant in my opinion until recently.

The whole limp noodle routine in the back half of the day makes sense tho
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Sloonei wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:35 pm
Golden wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:30 pm Yes I saw sloonei’s defence of Quin and it’s true Quin went in looking for evidence of w/w and modified based on evidence. But he’s the one who has pinged me most with other stuff, and I don’t think ‘trying to build a w/w connection and not finding it’ is inherently town.
To be clear, I am less interested in what Quin's reads actually are. I read him as town because of the way he communicated them.
Same tbh
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thellama73 wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:36 pm One thing that bothered me about Quin was that he demanded an explanation for why I placed him low on my rainbow list, a request I deliberately ignored, and then he never followed up on it. Like he didn't actually care about finding out the answer. I'm tempted to switch my vote. But will I?
Low on a rainbow list means bad or good? So the top is the most or least suspect?
Andrew wrote: Wed May 29, 2013 6:47 pm I'm voting llama again because I think I heard him say something that looks like proof.
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