Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]

[Scotty]

scotty can u link me 2 mafia games of yours

hmm, someone asked me this recently and i had to dig.
Most recent?

effing ancient

[Dennis]

[VOTE: Sabi] aubergine

Definitely not a certain vote and I'm suspicious on a few others, but Sabi has been all over the place with, in my opinion, weak arguments. Planting my vote here for now.

[Kate]

Could be wrong, but Lucy and Sean are two of my very few town reads and I don't like the way this vote is shaping up for now.

I don't have any reason to suspect Lucy, but not so crazy about Sean's play on day 1. We just posted 2 very different interpretations of that Sean v svs dayonegate. Any thoughts on my post?

I might pocket you

Request approved. Pocket away.

[Kate]

Plus Kate is the best

[Golden]

@Golden why do you townread me, I've done nothing

That is a very existential perspective. Posting is doing something.

[Sabiplz]

[VOTE: Sabi] aubergine

Definitely not a certain vote and I'm suspicious on a few others, but Sabi has been all over the place with, in my opinion, weak arguments. Planting my vote here for now.

Explain?

I have been consistently on Seanzie this whole game? Where have I jumped around?

I know. Seanzie and he does not match his meta or how he plays as town.

He tunnels me every game and this game its an empty shell of his usual tunnel. Like he's phoning it in.

Do better kiddo

[Golden]

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

just seeing how this feels

try eating a spoonful of cinnamon instead, you’ll get the same result

I like chewing on cinnamon sticks

[Golden]

Also I’m judging Dennis and jack through the lens of being Kate’s twins and that sucks for them and it’s completely unfair but bad luck!

Ironic, prior to today, being Kate's twins has been nothing but a privilege and an honor.

[Dennis]

[VOTE: Sabi] aubergine

Definitely not a certain vote and I'm suspicious on a few others, but Sabi has been all over the place with, in my opinion, weak arguments. Planting my vote here for now.

Explain?

I have been consistently on Seanzie this whole game? Where have I jumped around?

I know. Seanzie and he does not match his meta or how he plays as town.

He tunnels me every game and this game its an empty shell of his usual tunnel. Like he's phoning it in.

Do better kiddo

When Marmot showed up you were really aggressive. It didn't make sense to anything you said before, or I am horribly misinterpreting the way you spoke with them.

I don't know what you expected me to know about how seanzie, or you, or anyone plays.

And just to be clear, NO ONE calls me kiddo but Kate. No one.

[Golden]

[VOTE: Sabi] aubergine

Definitely not a certain vote and I'm suspicious on a few others, but Sabi has been all over the place with, in my opinion, weak arguments. Planting my vote here for now.

Explain?

I have been consistently on Seanzie this whole game? Where have I jumped around?

I know. Seanzie and he does not match his meta or how he plays as town.

He tunnels me every game and this game its an empty shell of his usual tunnel. Like he's phoning it in.

Do better kiddo

Let’s say Seanzie could townclear. Maybe he declares himself town cop, or you can imagine a different scenario where he could. Right now the likely pathway is by being elimmed.

How does your perspective of the game shift if you know Sean is town?

[S~V~S]

Golden you’re being irritatingly rational.

Leaving work bbl about 90 minutes xox thread

[Golden]

Golden you’re being irritatingly rational.

Leaving work bbl about 90 minutes xox thread

I’ll return to irritatingly irrational soon

[Dennis]

Golden you’re being irritatingly rational.

Leaving work bbl about 90 minutes xox thread

I’ll return to irritatingly irrational soon

Does it come in like, waves? Because you've been back and forth a lot.

[Golden]

The most pingworthy thing sabi has said on day one is that she thinks Wild Dennis should have a take on her on day one when they haven’t met before.

[Scotty]

I won’t be around end of day due to work, and honestly will end my time soon.

My rainbow reads (sans rainbow bc lazy):

>Townread<
SVS
sabi
Kate
Falcon

>Townlean<
Marmot
Golden

>post more<
Soneji
bea
splints
jack

>Scumlean<
Matahari
Wilgy
Roxy
Dennis

>Scumread<
Lucy
Seanzie


You won’t get too much of a detailed reasoning behind some of those because d1 is all vibe

[Dennis]

I won’t be around end of day due to work, and honestly will end my time soon.

My rainbow reads (sans rainbow bc lazy):

>Townread<
SVS
sabi
Kate
Falcon

>Townlean<
Marmot
Golden

>post more<
Soneji
bea
splints
jack

>Scumlean<
Matahari
Wilgy
Roxy
Dennis

>Scumread<
Lucy
Seanzie


You won’t get too much of a detailed reasoning behind some of those because d1 is all vibe

What about Matahari is off to you?

[Golden]

Golden you’re being irritatingly rational.

Leaving work bbl about 90 minutes xox thread

I’ll return to irritatingly irrational soon

Does it come in like, waves? Because you've been back and forth a lot.

New meta baby. But to be honest it’s just me being me. You don’t wanna be in my brain.

[Golden]

I also think I have 'endearingly rational' and 'endearingly irrational' modes. It's like four way volleyball in here.

[Seanzie]

Sean's approach to SVS gives me town vibes.

Explain.

I think the Sean v svs issue was somewhat of a misunderstanding. Do you two play together often or ever? I understood svs's side of it (that is why didn't specifically ask you svs) but I've known her forever and a day at this point and I more-or-less less speak her language. I follow the logic of her argument, and not so much Sean's. That's not to say I think he is definitely lying. But that either he doesn't understand her particular playstyle OR he os fabricating his defense and then fabricating an offense against her. I definitely do not buy that she'd use a stereotypical baddie archetype on day 1.

My eye is more on Sean from this exchange. Not to mention the (unexplained? I'd have to go back and look) sudden switcheroo to svs is town? And why Sabi, is that just tunneling like you said you'd do when the game started. Yea, I think I just semi convinced myself.

None of this when looked at as a complete picture screams town to me. I'm putting my vote here, at least for now.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

your loss.

Yes, it was unexplained.

And you don't care to elaborate?

I changed my mind. Decided what I was seeing was not as significant as I thought, and let other people's opinions persuade me. I don't really have anything to add, aside from the fact that my feelings changed.

Yeah, you’re definitely in a snippy pshaaa spew phase. I don’t get the feeling you’re actively trying to defend yourself nor offer any notable alternatives.

Who should be your counterwagon? Sabi? Me?

It's like you already knew the answer to your own question.

[Scotty]

[quote=Dennis post_id=987350 time=1669758509 user_id=1114]
[quote=Scotty post_id=987349 time=1669758410 user_id=410]
I won’t be around end of day due to work, and honestly will end my time soon.

My rainbow reads (sans rainbow bc lazy):

>Townread<
SVS
sabi
Kate
Falcon

>Townlean<
Marmot
Golden

>post more<
Soneji
bea
splints
jack

>Scumlean<
Matahari
Wilgy
Roxy
Dennis

>Scumread<
Lucy
Seanzie


You won’t get too much of a detailed reasoning behind some of those because d1 is all vibe
[/quote]

What about Matahari is off to you?
[/quote]
You know, I will clarify all my scum leans

Matahari- I didn’t see anything that jumped out at me, and honestly Marmot swayed me a bit. Vibe is ‘trying to make reads on some people’ but it looks a bit forced, which mirrors what marmot was saying.

Wilgy- despite being a breath of fresh air in the thread, he is dizzyingly detached. You don’t know his meta, but this is something he would do as either alignment. He had a recent game where he was amazingly accurate as town with his reads so I’m not content in him going today in case he is the same Wilgy.

Roxy- I don’t remember a lot of her posts, but the ones I do remember seem to be “I’m here, but where are bea and splints?” and using the magic conch to summon them. I don’t have a reason to town read her yet

You- in a similar vein to Wilgy, i don’t have a great read on you, but the difference between you and Wilgy is that I don’t know what your town game looks like. You’ve had some player salad posts where you list people with minimal reads but haven’t advanced on that. You got defensive of me asking you rather benign questions and that made my right (or maybe my left, can’t remember) eyebrow raise. Not in any rush to see you gone for reasons I’ve expressed.

[Scotty]

Ugh the quotes on the site are sometimes so buggy

[Scotty]

Explain.

I think the Sean v svs issue was somewhat of a misunderstanding. Do you two play together often or ever? I understood svs's side of it (that is why didn't specifically ask you svs) but I've known her forever and a day at this point and I more-or-less less speak her language. I follow the logic of her argument, and not so much Sean's. That's not to say I think he is definitely lying. But that either he doesn't understand her particular playstyle OR he os fabricating his defense and then fabricating an offense against her. I definitely do not buy that she'd use a stereotypical baddie archetype on day 1.

My eye is more on Sean from this exchange. Not to mention the (unexplained? I'd have to go back and look) sudden switcheroo to svs is town? And why Sabi, is that just tunneling like you said you'd do when the game started. Yea, I think I just semi convinced myself.

None of this when looked at as a complete picture screams town to me. I'm putting my vote here, at least for now.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

your loss.

Yes, it was unexplained.

And you don't care to elaborate?

I changed my mind. Decided what I was seeing was not as significant as I thought, and let other people's opinions persuade me. I don't really have anything to add, aside from the fact that my feelings changed.

Yeah, you’re definitely in a snippy pshaaa spew phase. I don’t get the feeling you’re actively trying to defend yourself nor offer any notable alternatives.

Who should be your counterwagon? Sabi? Me?

It's like you already knew the answer to your own question.

This is not an answer.

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Sabi] aubergine

Definitely not a certain vote and I'm suspicious on a few others, but Sabi has been all over the place with, in my opinion, weak arguments. Planting my vote here for now.

Explain?

I have been consistently on Seanzie this whole game? Where have I jumped around?

I know. Seanzie and he does not match his meta or how he plays as town.

He tunnels me every game and this game its an empty shell of his usual tunnel. Like he's phoning it in.

Do better kiddo

You clearly don't know me. Do better kiddo.

[Seanzie]

I think the Sean v svs issue was somewhat of a misunderstanding. Do you two play together often or ever? I understood svs's side of it (that is why didn't specifically ask you svs) but I've known her forever and a day at this point and I more-or-less less speak her language. I follow the logic of her argument, and not so much Sean's. That's not to say I think he is definitely lying. But that either he doesn't understand her particular playstyle OR he os fabricating his defense and then fabricating an offense against her. I definitely do not buy that she'd use a stereotypical baddie archetype on day 1.

My eye is more on Sean from this exchange. Not to mention the (unexplained? I'd have to go back and look) sudden switcheroo to svs is town? And why Sabi, is that just tunneling like you said you'd do when the game started. Yea, I think I just semi convinced myself.

None of this when looked at as a complete picture screams town to me. I'm putting my vote here, at least for now.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

your loss.

Yes, it was unexplained.

And you don't care to elaborate?

I changed my mind. Decided what I was seeing was not as significant as I thought, and let other people's opinions persuade me. I don't really have anything to add, aside from the fact that my feelings changed.

Yeah, you’re definitely in a snippy pshaaa spew phase. I don’t get the feeling you’re actively trying to defend yourself nor offer any notable alternatives.

Who should be your counterwagon? Sabi? Me?

It's like you already knew the answer to your own question.

This is not an answer.

[Scotty]

I also think I have 'endearingly rational' and 'endearingly irrational' modes. It's like four way volleyball in here.

Your left brain is Luigi, your right brain is Daisy, your bottom brain is Wario and your id is Yoshi

[Scotty]

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

nothing you’re doing is helping your case

Kiddo

[Scotty]

Current vote count at 4 hours left:

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bea
0
No votes
Voters: None
Dennis
0
No votes
Voters: None
DrWilgy
0
No votes
Voters: None
falcon45ca
0
No votes
Voters: None
fingersplints
0
No votes
Voters: None
Golden
0
No votes
Voters: None
jack shepherd
0
No votes
Voters: None
Kate
0
No votes
Voters: None
lucy
1
7%
Voters: S~V~S
Marmot
1
7%
Voters: Golden
Matahari
1
7%
Voters: Marmot
Roxy
0
No votes
Voters: None
S~V~S
0
No votes
Voters: None
Sabiplz
2
13%
Voters: Dennis, Seanzie
Scotty
1
7%
Voters: lucy
Seanzie
5
33%
Voters: Kate, DrWilgy, jack shepherd, Sabiplz, Scotty
Soneji
1
7%
Voters: falcon45ca

[Dennis]

I don’t have a reason to town read her yet

So default assumption is bad leaning. Good to know.

[Dennis]

I don’t have a reason to town read her yet

So default assumption is bad leaning. Good to know.

Default assumption for you*

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

nothing you’re doing is helping your case

Kiddo

It's almost like this was going to happen regardless of what I did and you were just trying to pretend to have some sort of "progression" on me.

[Scotty]

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

nothing you’re doing is helping your case

Kiddo

It's almost like this was going to happen regardless of what I did and you were just trying to pretend to have some sort of "progression" on me.

Not at all.

I gave you plenty of outs and ironically if you had just stuck with the no-u vibe and sought out a different play we wouldn’t be here

[Scotty]

I don’t have a reason to town read her yet

So default assumption is bad leaning. Good to know.

Interesting. This is probably the case, though I admit I haven’t thought about it. I never want to leave a null read (tho jack is the closest I have, I could probably bump him to Townlean) so that’s what I got for her few posts.

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

nothing you’re doing is helping your case

Kiddo

It's almost like this was going to happen regardless of what I did and you were just trying to pretend to have some sort of "progression" on me.

Not at all.

I gave you plenty of outs and ironically if you had just stuck with the no-u vibe and sought out a different play we wouldn’t be here

if you say so.

[Sabiplz]

[VOTE: Sabi] aubergine

Definitely not a certain vote and I'm suspicious on a few others, but Sabi has been all over the place with, in my opinion, weak arguments. Planting my vote here for now.

Explain?

I have been consistently on Seanzie this whole game? Where have I jumped around?

I know. Seanzie and he does not match his meta or how he plays as town.

He tunnels me every game and this game its an empty shell of his usual tunnel. Like he's phoning it in.

Do better kiddo

When Marmot showed up you were really aggressive. It didn't make sense to anything you said before, or I am horribly misinterpreting the way you spoke with them.

I don't know what you expected me to know about how seanzie, or you, or anyone plays.

And just to be clear, NO ONE calls me kiddo but Kate. No one.

I wasn't being aggressive. I was annoyed at him but I didn't sr him. It was a null read.

OK kiddo

[Sabiplz]

[VOTE: Sabi] aubergine

Definitely not a certain vote and I'm suspicious on a few others, but Sabi has been all over the place with, in my opinion, weak arguments. Planting my vote here for now.

Explain?

I have been consistently on Seanzie this whole game? Where have I jumped around?

I know. Seanzie and he does not match his meta or how he plays as town.

He tunnels me every game and this game its an empty shell of his usual tunnel. Like he's phoning it in.

Do better kiddo

Let’s say Seanzie could townclear. Maybe he declares himself town cop, or you can imagine a different scenario where he could. Right now the likely pathway is by being elimmed.

How does your perspective of the game shift if you know Sean is town?

I dunno. I would have to reeval how people jumped on him after my two pushes on him.

[Sabiplz]

The most pingworthy thing sabi has said on day one is that she thinks Wild Dennis should have a take on her on day one when they haven’t met before.

How was it pingy? Dennis hasn't played or met anyone except family members. He had a read on marmot but not me and atp in the game marmot barely had content.

So explain

[S~V~S]

Why do people think it’s ok to keep calling Dennis “kiddo” when he asked us not to?

[Kate]

[VOTE: Sabi] aubergine

Definitely not a certain vote and I'm suspicious on a few others, but Sabi has been all over the place with, in my opinion, weak arguments. Planting my vote here for now.

Explain?

I have been consistently on Seanzie this whole game? Where have I jumped around?

I know. Seanzie and he does not match his meta or how he plays as town.

He tunnels me every game and this game its an empty shell of his usual tunnel. Like he's phoning it in.

Do better kiddo

When Marmot showed up you were really aggressive. It didn't make sense to anything you said before, or I am horribly misinterpreting the way you spoke with them.

I don't know what you expected me to know about how seanzie, or you, or anyone plays.

And just to be clear, NO ONE calls me kiddo but Kate. No one.

I wasn't being aggressive. I was annoyed at him but I didn't sr him. It was a null read.

OK kiddo

You know what? That's pretty rude especially since Dennis goes out of his way to make sure everyone is referred to as their chosen pronouns and no.one feels uncomfortable or out of plaxe, you'd think you could not call him the one thing he specifically asked you not to.

[Kate]

The most pingworthy thing sabi has said on day one is that she thinks Wild Dennis should have a take on her on day one when they haven’t met before.

How was it pingy? Dennis hasn't played or met anyone except family members. He had a read on marmot but not me and atp in the game marmot barely had content.

So explain

That is not true.

[Dennis]

Y'all chill out I can see why they didn't take it seriously. Honestly, I would rather not be called that but it's not the end of the world.

Also, I do think I misgendered Sabi at one point and I'm very sorry about that. No hard feelings.

[S~V~S]

The most pingworthy thing sabi has said on day one is that she thinks Wild Dennis should have a take on her on day one when they haven’t met before.

How was it pingy? Dennis hasn't played or met anyone except family members. He had a read on marmot but not me and atp in the game marmot barely had content.

So explain

He knows me, but it's some time since I've seen him IRL. I follow him on Facebook. I've known him since he was about 18 months old or so.

[Golden]

The most pingworthy thing sabi has said on day one is that she thinks Wild Dennis should have a take on her on day one when they haven’t met before.

How was it pingy? Dennis hasn't played or met anyone except family members. He had a read on marmot but not me and atp in the game marmot barely had content.

So explain

I don't think that you think that "Dennis has a read on marmot" = "Therefore Dennis should have a read on me too".

[Dennis]

The most pingworthy thing sabi has said on day one is that she thinks Wild Dennis should have a take on her on day one when they haven’t met before.

How was it pingy? Dennis hasn't played or met anyone except family members. He had a read on marmot but not me and atp in the game marmot barely had content.

So explain

He knows me, but it's some time since I've seen him IRL. I follow him on Facebook. I've known him since he was about 18 months old or so.

You say 'some time' as if it wasn't when I was practically an infant. That comes off mean, but I would argue I don't know anyone enough to imagine how they would play but my brother and mother.

[Golden]

[VOTE: sabiplz] aubergine

[Golden]

I'm not convinced sabi is bad but I think it's better odds than Seanzie at this point.

[Golden]

I don't really know sabi yet. Would be keen on meta reads about whether being so firm/tunnelly on day one is AI for her.

[S~V~S]

The most pingworthy thing sabi has said on day one is that she thinks Wild Dennis should have a take on her on day one when they haven’t met before.

How was it pingy? Dennis hasn't played or met anyone except family members. He had a read on marmot but not me and atp in the game marmot barely had content.

So explain

He knows me, but it's some time since I've seen him IRL. I follow him on Facebook. I've known him since he was about 18 months old or so.

You say 'some time' as if it wasn't when I was practically an infant. That comes off mean, but I would argue I don't know anyone enough to imagine how they would play but my brother and mother.

It was more recently than that, but maybe 6 or 7 years. I hear about all of you guys through the grapevine, aka your Mom.

[Dennis]

One more post about this 'kiddo' thing, I appreciate the immediate jumping to my defense but it's not that deep. Unless I know you're specifically doing it to annoy me, it's whatever. I'm not mad at Sabi or anyone else. Hopefully we can all drop this now.

[Kate]

The most pingworthy thing sabi has said on day one is that she thinks Wild Dennis should have a take on her on day one when they haven’t met before.

How was it pingy? Dennis hasn't played or met anyone except family members. He had a read on marmot but not me and atp in the game marmot barely had content.

So explain

He knows me, but it's some time since I've seen him IRL. I follow him on Facebook. I've known him since he was about 18 months old or so.

You say 'some time' as if it wasn't when I was practically an infant. That comes off mean, but I would argue I don't know anyone enough to imagine how they would play but my brother and mother.

It was more recently than that, but maybe 6 or 7 years. I hear about all of you guys through the grapevine, aka your Mom.

True

[Dennis]

The most pingworthy thing sabi has said on day one is that she thinks Wild Dennis should have a take on her on day one when they haven’t met before.

How was it pingy? Dennis hasn't played or met anyone except family members. He had a read on marmot but not me and atp in the game marmot barely had content.

So explain

He knows me, but it's some time since I've seen him IRL. I follow him on Facebook. I've known him since he was about 18 months old or so.

You say 'some time' as if it wasn't when I was practically an infant. That comes off mean, but I would argue I don't know anyone enough to imagine how they would play but my brother and mother.

It was more recently than that, but maybe 6 or 7 years. I hear about all of you guys through the grapevine, aka your Mom.

Thinking about that in context of the game, you probably know more about how we play than we know about you. That's just a thought.