The Syndicate

wtf r these votes

Cape90 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:33 pm i mean 60 is slanking for abby

Kinda seemed autopiloty today on slight skim

Maybe w/w with Wilgy if I am right on that

Lol

This Wilgy wagon is ass

Well I am happy to be voting with leetic

Is it really Abby/ted? I don't know anymore

GGs town we threw

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:48 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:47 pm Why the fuck is Wilgy top wagon lol

Well, it helps that "top wagon" is literally two votes. I explained it previously but basically people who've called him out have died, he's made strange and out of place pushes, and his behavior with ilario seems potentially bussy.

And yet...

Neon stop trying to destroy town moral

Cape90 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:52 pm There is something about Rondo today that feels I guess genuine to me.

I can at least atest to liking the confidence

... where?

It does seem like me, Ranmilia, and RDB independently came to the same vote (even if the latter was pure self pres)

[VOTE: rondo] aubergine

Disagree with wilgy wagon

Neon I am voting tomorrow every time after this

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:55 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:52 pm There is something about Rondo today that feels I guess genuine to me.

I can at least atest to liking the confidence

I think the overreaction to threadstate feels more like towny anger than wolfy grouchiness tbh

...how?

Oh well! Hope that was it

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:56 pm I know I am town, this vibe push on me is so garbage leave leetic alone if they survive [VOTE: wilgy ] aubergine

...no

Alexy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:59 pm [VOTE: rondo] aubergine

Disagree with wilgy wagon

If not you or Wilgy, then who?

Day Five has ended. DrWilgy was voted out. He was:


tedxtr, DrWilgy's outie, dies with him. He was:


Night Five begins and ends immediately. Alexy was retired. She was:


pyxxy has been removed from the game.


The management team at Lumon Industries has restored order on the severed floor and eliminated all re-integrated troublemakers. The mafia team has won the game! Congratulations to:


Banners are prepared, and this Music Dance Experience is well earned.





Thanks to everyone for participating. I hope you had a good time.

was onto ran by the last like....2 hours but idt i would have gotten to cape

wp wp ggs

it's funny bc i ofc had a correct cape sus d1 but the ilario interaction completely stifled it lol

I fucking sucked this game. Should have gone with my analysis that Ran was most likely based on pairings, but whatever. GG I guess.

Good job to @Gira for getting the correct solve

Why was there a difference between role descriptions for myself and Ted @JaggedJimmyJay ? The first part seems the same or nearly so

Well played fellow wolves

GGs everyone! Was a really fun game

Alexy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:10 pm Why was there a difference between role descriptions for myself and Ted @JaggedJimmyJay ? The first part seems the same or nearly so

You had different roles. You were a standard Watcher, and tedxtr was a "limited" Watcher (could not detect night kills).

I guess I can rest assured that no matter who I voted (ted, Alexy, or Wilgy) I would've been wrong. So I voted ilario D2 by sheer chance and then did nothing else right this game, wowee

Damn, I would've gotten all 3 wolves on my side.

Where were you when the one person with 2 pelts and half the solve was yeeted in lylo?

Good game appreciate it. Well done neon and gira

Should've bought some Poopourri for that stinker.

GG though this was a fun one. Probably would've gotten to rondo, but unsure if I ever hit Ran.

Why was there a difference between role descriptions for myself and Ted @JaggedJimmyJay ? The first part seems the same or nearly so

This was by far the hardest mafia experience of my life. Our mafia team was miraculous. The town was also miraculous and played extremely hard and extremely well. I am sorry to all of the town who were deceived, especially the ones who had negative experiences at times. I hope everyone still enjoyed the game overall and take our performance as just that -- a grand theatre show.


i will have more detailed comments later if wished for but for now


“If we shadows have offended,
Think but this, and all is mended,
That you have but slumbered here
While these visions did appear.
And this weak and idle theme,
No more yielding but a dream,
Gentles, do not reprehend:
If you pardon, we will mend:
And, as I am an honest Puck,
If we have unearned luck
Now to 'scape the serpent's tongue,
We will make amends ere long;
Else the Puck a liar call;
So, good night unto you all.
Give me your hands, if we be friends,
And Robin shall restore amends.”
― William Shakespeare, A Midsummer Night's Dream

Oops didn't mean. To post that twice what the heck

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:10 pm

Alexy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:10 pm Why was there a difference between role descriptions for myself and Ted @JaggedJimmyJay ? The first part seems the same or nearly so

You had different roles. You were a standard Watcher, and tedxtr was a "limited" Watcher (could not detect night kills).

So I would have been able to detect night kills?

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:11 pm

I guess I can rest assured that no matter who I voted (ted, Alexy, or Wilgy) I would've been wrong. So I voted ilario D2 by sheer chance and then did nothing else right this game, wowee

Ted or wilgy were our wincon

Alexy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:13 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:10 pm

Alexy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:10 pm Why was there a difference between role descriptions for myself and Ted @JaggedJimmyJay ? The first part seems the same or nearly so

You had different roles. You were a standard Watcher, and tedxtr was a "limited" Watcher (could not detect night kills).

So I would have been able to detect night kills?

Yep!

I take it back. I did write a really nice poem.

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:14 pm I take it back. I did write a really nice poem.

And a really nice tunnel

Next time I suck at WW just accept I suck at WW

I have opened access to all threads for everyone. Let me know if you can't see something.

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:10 pm Good job to @Gira for getting the correct solve

Absolutely. Gira and Dizzy in particular had incredibly accurate solves, which is precisely why we had to discredit them and shout them down to such a degree. At many, many points I felt like Gira singlehandedly rendered the game unwinnable for us; this proved not to be the case but. y'all do not even know how lucky we got. we played hard and well but we also got SO FREAKING LUCKY.

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:16 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:10 pm Good job to @Gira for getting the correct solve

Absolutely. Gira and Dizzy in particular had incredibly accurate solves, which is precisely why we had to discredit them and shout them down to such a degree. At many, many points I felt like Gira singlehandedly rendered the game unwinnable for us; this proved not to be the case but. y'all do not even know how lucky we got. we played hard and well but we also got SO FREAKING LUCKY.

I feel especially bamboozled by you because pyxxy was rooting for you so hard behind the scenes

Lol...

Our immediate wincon on the final day was to vote out a town whose pairing was also town. However, we did not know leetic and tedxtr's pairings, so from our perspective they were a 50/50 to win on the spot whereas Wilgy was the sole town we knew was a guaranteed win. We could also have punted on Alexy or Abigail for the two day but that seemed risky with people closing in hard on Rondo/Ran. Shoutouts to Cape for spending the entire work thread's accumulated towncred to blatantly push Wilgy over.

All this time, truly Cape was the one with the long con. Marvelous.

Cape, I was ready to swear on my dying breath that you were town lol. Beautiful job. You and ilario especially did a great job creating confusion with your interactions.

gg

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:23 pm Cape, I was ready to swear on my dying breath that you were town lol. Beautiful job. You and ilario especially did a great job creating confusion with your interactions.

Yeah it was Ilario's idea, glad it worked out

Gg

To expand on a few obvious questions:

The two extra kills entering the merged thread were granted to the mafia team as a planned mechanic. Merging the threads is, on its own power, a town-sided mechanic (and potentially very town-sided). This was meant to counteract at least these two issues:
1) If town enters the merge with one mafia alive from either or both threads, then the elimination of that mafia member implicitly confirms every other player from that thread as town. That is incredibly powerful.
2) The flat numbers are town-sided in that, essentially, a "new" game begins at the merger with numerous cycles of information already gather prior. This provides the town with a handicap.
The two kills were meant to offset these issues.

Also, this Day Five was a "pseudo-endgame" phase. This is also a planned mechanic based upon the numerical game states in each thread at the time they merge. The Lumon thread town had one miss left before an endgame phase (5v1). The Home thread town had already reached an endgame phase (3v2). The merger was meant to reflect the "average" of those two states, which would be "one half miss left before endgame". Obviously "half of a mischop" is not possible, but a conditional game-ending chop that isn't guaranteed was the best approximation in my view. And thematically, the innie-outie dynamic just made it all fit nicely.

In the end, I am not entirely satisfied by my own balance. This was a weird one, clearly, and if I were to do it all again I'd do some things differently. But all in all, it was a thrill to see the game play out and the effort that both teams put forth to get the win. @Delta was awesome too.

gg i was katze