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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:56 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Dom wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:55 pm we think tony's enclave? or slaver? i got lost in my like 12 page catch up
we think he's vt

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:56 pm
by Gavial
Dom wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:55 pm we think tony's enclave? or slaver? i got lost in my like 12 page catch up
Enclave

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:56 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
or close enough

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:56 pm
by Kylemii
talk to me about Grokus, Yoda Jr.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:56 pm
by Gavial
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:56 pm
Dom wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:55 pm we think tony's enclave? or slaver? i got lost in my like 12 page catch up
we think he's vt
Flavour?

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:56 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
i can't see any of the posts being made by the other person right now but I'm sure he's saying I'm lock slaver and enclave at the same time

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:57 pm
by MartinGG99
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:55 pm ok here are the people I just cannot come up with a reason to tr:

Kyle
Syn
Marmot

And here's chop:
Chop

wolf team?
Syn's the only Redding unless someone wants to cc that

Or maybe there's two reddings, but idk about that.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:57 pm
by Kylemii
Gronkus

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:57 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Kylemii wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:56 pm talk to me about Grokus, Yoda Jr.
there are reasons to think he's likely town due to mech and he's not around enough to actually get a claim out of. one to watch.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:57 pm
by Gavial
If you wanna claim VT and not give a name that’s the equivalent to a scum claim Tony.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:58 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
MartinGG99 wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:57 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:55 pm ok here are the people I just cannot come up with a reason to tr:

Kyle
Syn
Marmot

And here's chop:
Chop

wolf team?
Syn's the only Redding unless someone wants to cc that

Or maybe there's two reddings, but idk about that.
yep wasn't even thinking about that req

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:58 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
wait lemme check

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:59 pm
by Gavial
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:58 pm wait lemme check
Yeah go check your fake Rolecard and then get back to me on your flavour make.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:59 pm
by Gavial
Name*

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:59 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
I think? urist softed a redding but I've been very offbase so far this game with soft guesses

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:59 pm
by MartinGG99
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:07 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:21 pm Urist is almost certainly not w/w with Made. Made made a point of needling Urist repeatedly and Urist did not appear to be in on it
I think Urist is town but I think this is dangerous reasoning. Made replaced into a slot that had been essentially been read peeked. He was in antispew for his whole career.
Spoiler: show
Which is why smart players like me just voted Made and skipped the rest of the day. rollsafe.png
THANK YOU

AT LEAST SOMEONE ELSE HERE DOESN'T CARE FOR POTENTIAL ANTI-SPEW

(Unlike some people telling me that I should be reading into it / not ignoring it....)

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:00 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
it's not why urist is town smh urist is town because reading the game is a skill the wolf team is clearly not displaying here

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:00 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
And for how he treated LC day 1 though I'd like to get followup for that

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:00 pm
by Gavial
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:00 pm it's not why urist is town smh urist is town because reading the game is a skill the wolf team is clearly not displaying here
Clearly eh?

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:02 pm
by Kylemii
[VOTE: what has epignosis been op to] aubergine

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:03 pm
by Marmot
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:54 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:51 pm
Kylemii wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:49 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:45 pm
Kylemii wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:44 pm [VOTE: marmot] aubergine why is this wrong
it's probably not
please expand on this if u don't mind

[VOTE: long con] aubergine what's this guy's deal
day 5 lc chops feel like they always go poorly
As for marmot, I just see no reason to TR him to be honest. He feels like he's reading the game but is purposely acting oblivious and hasn't expressed a consistent set of beliefs.

Can you explain this more? That's a pretty heavy-handed accusation to toss around.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:03 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Marmot wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:03 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:54 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:51 pm
Kylemii wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:49 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:45 pm
Kylemii wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:44 pm [VOTE: marmot] aubergine why is this wrong
it's probably not
please expand on this if u don't mind

[VOTE: long con] aubergine what's this guy's deal
day 5 lc chops feel like they always go poorly
As for marmot, I just see no reason to TR him to be honest. He feels like he's reading the game but is purposely acting oblivious and hasn't expressed a consistent set of beliefs.

Can you explain this more? That's a pretty heavy-handed accusation to toss around.
which part

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:03 pm
by Dom
I awnt a tie

=[VOTE: kyle] aubergine

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:03 pm
by Long Con
Kylemii wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:02 pm [VOTE: what has epignosis been op to] aubergine
Being shady. I think he's Enclave.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:04 pm
by Dom
when's this poll over?

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:04 pm
by Marmot
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:03 pm
Marmot wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:03 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:54 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:51 pm
Kylemii wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:49 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:45 pm
Kylemii wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:44 pm [VOTE: marmot] aubergine why is this wrong
it's probably not
please expand on this if u don't mind

[VOTE: long con] aubergine what's this guy's deal
day 5 lc chops feel like they always go poorly
As for marmot, I just see no reason to TR him to be honest. He feels like he's reading the game but is purposely acting oblivious and hasn't expressed a consistent set of beliefs.

Can you explain this more? That's a pretty heavy-handed accusation to toss around.
which part

All of it.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:05 pm
by Epignosis
Image

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:05 pm
by Dom
do we trust marmot?

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:06 pm
by Gavial
Dom wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:03 pm I awnt a tie

=[VOTE: kyle] aubergine
You Tony’s Pack Member?
:werewolf:

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:07 pm
by Gavial
Epignosis wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:05 pm Image
Lol.
LockTown.
:werewolf:

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:07 pm
by Marmot
Long Con wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 4:05 pm Feels frantic right now but there's so much time left in the yeet.

Why do things feel frantic? The thread feels fairly steady imo.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:08 pm
by Marmot
Dom wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:05 pm do we trust marmot?

I don't know why anyone would trust me tbh.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:08 pm
by Dom
ChopChop wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:06 pm
Dom wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:03 pm I awnt a tie

=[VOTE: kyle] aubergine
You Tony’s Pack Member?
:werewolf:
lol no

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:08 pm
by Gavial
Dom wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:05 pm do we trust marmot?
The real question is,
Do we trust Tony?
Because we shouldn’t.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:10 pm
by Marmot
Urist wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 4:08 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 4:07 pm
Urist wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 4:04 pm at some point we should talk about how Made didn't claim until an hour after spacedaisy showed up to the thread
really limiting team combos here
you know it's possible that chopchop isn't even a messenger, we only have spacedaisy's word lol

This isn't a great argument

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:10 pm
by Dom
I don't trust tony
I need some slavers dead too.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:11 pm
by Gavial
Don’t know why you don’t see this Urist.
Tony was pocketing Nanook until Nanook caught him.
Tony killed him then pocket you instead

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:12 pm
by Gavial
Dom wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:10 pm I don't trust tony
I need some slavers dead too.
Guess you claiming BOS as well?
Yeah well there’s only one Slaver so we just focus on Enclave.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:13 pm
by Gavial
If we were focusing on Slaver we would all be voting Alison RN.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:14 pm
by MartinGG99
Urist wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 4:08 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 4:07 pm
Urist wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 4:04 pm at some point we should talk about how Made didn't claim until an hour after spacedaisy showed up to the thread
really limiting team combos here
you know it's possible that chopchop isn't even a messenger, we only have spacedaisy's word lol
That's a good point but rn with how SD handled it d2 (which was towny imo) and that Chop is the only BoS claim

I kinda have to believe otherwise

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:14 pm
by Dom
How do we know there's only one?

And you can make whatever you want of that info I gave you.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:15 pm
by MartinGG99
ChopChop wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:13 pm If we were focusing on Slaver we would all be voting Alison RN.
Slaver isn't needed for you to win anymore. It used to be, but once Vault City died it doesn't really further your goals anymore.

You should've read my @ChopChop recently.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:15 pm
by Urist
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:59 pm I think? urist softed a redding but I've been very offbase so far this game with soft guesses
I've softed a lot of things

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:19 pm
by Urist
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:00 pm And for how he treated LC day 1 though I'd like to get followup for that
I thought lc was vc bc c4 was enclave

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:20 pm
by Marmot
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:39 pm the only high activity slots who aren't dead are me and urist and Martin so given that I think me and urist and martin are town

Huh?

Alison has more posts than Urist or Martin
I have more posts than Martin, and roughly the same as Urist.


I don't really understand some of your takes today.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:21 pm
by Marmot
Urist wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:19 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:00 pm And for how he treated LC day 1 though I'd like to get followup for that
I thought lc was vc bc c4 was enclave
c4 was enclave?

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:22 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Marmot wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:04 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:03 pm
Marmot wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:03 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:54 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:51 pm
Kylemii wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:49 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:45 pm

it's probably not
please expand on this if u don't mind

[VOTE: long con] aubergine what's this guy's deal
day 5 lc chops feel like they always go poorly
As for marmot, I just see no reason to TR him to be honest. He feels like he's reading the game but is purposely acting oblivious and hasn't expressed a consistent set of beliefs.

Can you explain this more? That's a pretty heavy-handed accusation to toss around.
which part

All of it.
First let me cover with "don't have a reason to townread" is not the same as "is bottom poe". But I think the following is true:
1) you are one of the top posters and have presented yourself generally in an opposition role, like Tim in GOC or whatever. That's fine by itself, but in a game where town unity is lacking, I think that it presents itself poorly.
2) I think your case on Martin was poorly reasoned yesterday and your determination to sheep nanook on daisy was questionable as well, though I just read your ISO and you do have a thing for this daisy / LC day 1 slip. Honestly, I could buy that.
2a) One reason I found it questionable is that it didn't seem to me like you were looking for a specific set of characteristics. You didn't like how Martin did X, but you didn't mention or expressed support for the others who did the same thing
3) The sloonei stuff
4) Despite the fact that you seemed to be working yesterday, (see 2: you cased martin), today you came in and it felt like you presented yourself as sorta lost. I think scum has advantages in doing that.

These things are what went into the things I said here. This is not the same as the question of whether I think you're wolf or town. Two other things that go into that question

1) VCA is pretty bad for you. Now VCA generally requires people to be acting rationally, wolves haven't demonstrated that this game, etc.etc.
2) I frankly think your progression on Chop is not town. You voted him on Day 2 and said numerous times that he was wolfy (before voting for and dedicating most of your time to sloonei) , didn't touch him on Day 3, and you're sure he's town by day 4. something went wrong here. Now, confbias but whatever.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:22 pm
by Urist
Marmot wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:21 pm
Urist wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:19 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:00 pm And for how he treated LC day 1 though I'd like to get followup for that
I thought lc was vc bc c4 was enclave
c4 was enclave?
That's what i thought d1 sure

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:23 pm
by Alison
Urist are you BOS

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:23 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Marmot wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:10 pm
Urist wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 4:08 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 4:07 pm
Urist wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 4:04 pm at some point we should talk about how Made didn't claim until an hour after spacedaisy showed up to the thread
really limiting team combos here
you know it's possible that chopchop isn't even a messenger, we only have spacedaisy's word lol

This isn't a great argument
it's more a joke than an argument