GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 Endgame (town and 3p win)

[DrWilgy]

Like, I think that this is a good example of why multivoting makes people dumb.

People may not sus me, but because of my tendency to be unreadable I just get yeeted here instead of potential suspects that people actually want yeeted, all because I'm forever the easiest vote.

Also, I'd not read this as me upset about it or anything. I just hope that town can carry on after this.

[DrWilgy]

okay wilgy you can have one of my votes, where am I putting it?

Pao 100% of the time.

[ilario]

look if we trust TLs on /all/ the quote unquote lurkers we're just gonna chop the four people with the least posts and they'll probably all flip town and we'll lose

Eh idk why tsp as a wolf would protect lurkers when he’s a wagon contender

[DrWilgy]

But alright, GN and good luck town!

Maybe I'm wrong, but my gut feels pretty right about my gth. Best of luck with that.

[Phil and Gloria]

@DrWilgy my vote already there, gotta give me a name im not voting for lol

[ilario]

Okay I still only have hollowkatt for wolf but

c4e5g3d5
Master Radishes

May be an interesting place to look at

mr feels towny

falcon has a claimed green on mr

ohhhh nicee thx for that

im 20 pgs behind and catching uyp

sabie claimed the shot on ender and hollowkatt claimed the shot on axe also

Hmmm ender shot could possibly have been to protect dizzy

If neither sabie or hk is a wolf shot that means wolves only had factional kill as kp and that seems pretty low? Feels like one of them might be a scum kp but I don’t think it’s hk since I don’t see why wolves wouldn’t wanna keep town naa alive to derail the thread

[ilario]

Like, I think that this is a good example of why multivoting makes people dumb.

People may not sus me, but because of my tendency to be unreadable I just get yeeted here instead of potential suspects that people actually want yeeted, all because I'm forever the easiest vote.

Also, I'd not read this as me upset about it or anything. I just hope that town can carry on after this.

I think ur town lol

[Phil and Gloria]

i could see axe as a 2nd mafia kill if linearpoint is a wolf

[ilario]

have work to do
but want to outpost alexa

make meme

@alexa this feels like tsps derpy town game idkkkk

[112]

@Guillotine @Master Radishes @alexa @Justplayingitcool @sabie12 @hollowkatt @Creature @LinearPoint @falcon45ca @112

hey TSP asked me to make sure he doesn't die so can you guys unvote him and vote some other random instead please.

oh and also if you're voting for me stop doing that also.

too much pressure at once, mac

[112]

[Phil and Gloria]

i agree that one of the night vig claims is more than likely mafia additional kp, i wouldn't even be surprised if one is an sk and the other is mafia kp and the dayvigs are all real... all i know is there is no way all five of you are town and probably only 2-3 of you are town

[112]

Like, I think that this is a good example of why multivoting makes people dumb.

People may not sus me, but because of my tendency to be unreadable I just get yeeted here instead of potential suspects that people actually want yeeted, all because I'm forever the easiest vote.

Also, I'd not read this as me upset about it or anything. I just hope that town can carry on after this.

i don't think it makes people dumb but careless

how many chops are there going to be? is it still just one?

[Phil and Gloria]

@Guillotine @Master Radishes @alexa @Justplayingitcool @sabie12 @hollowkatt @Creature @LinearPoint @falcon45ca @112

hey TSP asked me to make sure he doesn't die so can you guys unvote him and vote some other random instead please.

oh and also if you're voting for me stop doing that also.

too much pressure at once, mac

counterpoint

[Phil and Gloria]

four deaths today 112

[112]

@Guillotine @Master Radishes @alexa @Justplayingitcool @sabie12 @hollowkatt @Creature @LinearPoint @falcon45ca @112

hey TSP asked me to make sure he doesn't die so can you guys unvote him and vote some other random instead please.

oh and also if you're voting for me stop doing that also.

too much pressure at once, mac

counterpoint

I answer only to Mayor West.

[112]

four deaths today 112

yes, this will satisfy..

[112]

k switched my tsp vote to [VOTE: hallowkat] aubergine

[ilario]

I'm failing to pinpoint even one wolf

towny

This shade is annoying me

I will always find "hope we lynch a wolf, gosh this game is sooooo hard, I can't find wolves!" type of posts scummy

i will never understand how ur mind works lol

[112]

I'm failing to pinpoint even one wolf

towny

This shade is annoying me

I will always find "hope we lynch a wolf, gosh this game is sooooo hard, I can't find wolves!" type of posts scummy

i will never understand how ur mind works lol

people say: 112 is an enigma.

the truth is i am one of a triumvirate from the cdc circle.

falcon also is of the enigmus.

[ilario]

Yeah enigma that’s the perfect word to describe him lol

One time he fossed me because my avatar looked cute

[ilario]

Has anyone seen TSP wolf? Can they highpost this enough?

i have wolfed with them before and they definitely can

was he topposting in rym though?

[Justplayingitcool]

Why the fuck am i a wagon

[ilario]

I promised to talk some more about my c4 suspicion. It seems he has gained sufficient momentum since last night anyway, but I will still dump my thoughts into the thread.

Something that I feel is sometimes true about mafia members is that they struggle to actively pursue suspicions. It is one thing to name suspects and place votes, but it is another to flesh out reads and have them develop in real time. Making up fake arguments about a person about why they are lying when you know that they are not can be a difficult thing to do, especially when the person you are targeting is capable of being more vocal than you about it. The result is a bunch of stagnant suspicions that fail to take off, with more energy spent arguing (truthfully) about why certain players are town instead of mafia.

I think I see this trend playing out in c4's posts. Observe:

Spoiler: show

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

The fact that Creature can only bring himself to talk about one thing so far is wolfy.

The fact that he's clearly beenfollowing along live for a reasonable amount of time given how quickly he voted nut makes it wolfier.

The fact that it's a piece of mechanical information also makes it wolfier.

The fact that it's an obviously fake redcheck also makes it wolfier.

Is soup kill a thing?

Derp denied

@Sloonei post

I feel like I shouldn't be the one towncasing myself

Then lemme do it

Creature's strings of posts of talking to himself came off as pure and more drawn out than w!Creature would bother with

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

Sup

hey gamer what's poppin

You feel wolfy from a glance

Are you a wolf?

C4, shoot:

Scotty (scummy)

Bo (as KZA wanted)

or

Wilgy (as he requested)

Could totally shoot Scotty

Bo seems to be genuinely enjoying himself and is decently polarized but since both of you know him better do you have specific insights?

Wilgy lolno

Yeah Mac isn't towny lul

Ender townreaders talk to me about Ender pls

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

Where's that spark I saw in RYM 96

i think paopan may be town rn based on his response and my spiritual vote is not on him, just haven't figured out where to go yet

@dyachei what's your read on me rn?

I have an idea of where you can go

Were you paying attention to Sloonei's posting in RYM perchance? It was miles townier than this even with low engagement.

I'm very tempted to just shoot Sloon

Etc.

C4's most substantive Day 1 posts are an exchange with Porscha that lists reasons to suspect her, but never develops in any meaningful way. The rest of c4's Day 1 feels like aimless prodding and asking for direction on who to shoot. I am lacking the full context leading up to his decision to shoot Bo, but based on c4's posts alone I do not find his process to be all that convincing.
The suspects c4 does prod for most of Day 1 are easy options. He starts with Creature, whose playstyle invites suspicion, especially early on. Then he shifts to Porscha, an unfamiliar face with light activity. Then he spends a few posts prodding me with no direction because of my absence/lack of spark. But c4 never actually put real pressure on me. He demanded that I post and then didn't have anything to say to me when I did.

Compare all of this to the amount of time and energy c4 puts into townreading people on Day 1. I am having trouble finding any evidence that he is making a sincere effort to uncover suspects. He steps in to declare town reads every once in a while, and then gropes around listlessly at potential suspects. I'm uninspired by all of this. If c4 is town, I need to see him demonstrate that he is actually trying to develop reads on players.

case me daddy

[112]

I promised to talk some more about my c4 suspicion. It seems he has gained sufficient momentum since last night anyway, but I will still dump my thoughts into the thread.

Something that I feel is sometimes true about mafia members is that they struggle to actively pursue suspicions. It is one thing to name suspects and place votes, but it is another to flesh out reads and have them develop in real time. Making up fake arguments about a person about why they are lying when you know that they are not can be a difficult thing to do, especially when the person you are targeting is capable of being more vocal than you about it. The result is a bunch of stagnant suspicions that fail to take off, with more energy spent arguing (truthfully) about why certain players are town instead of mafia.

I think I see this trend playing out in c4's posts. Observe:

Spoiler: show

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

The fact that Creature can only bring himself to talk about one thing so far is wolfy.

The fact that he's clearly beenfollowing along live for a reasonable amount of time given how quickly he voted nut makes it wolfier.

The fact that it's a piece of mechanical information also makes it wolfier.

The fact that it's an obviously fake redcheck also makes it wolfier.

Is soup kill a thing?

Derp denied

@Sloonei post

I feel like I shouldn't be the one towncasing myself

Then lemme do it

Creature's strings of posts of talking to himself came off as pure and more drawn out than w!Creature would bother with

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

Sup

hey gamer what's poppin

You feel wolfy from a glance

Are you a wolf?

C4, shoot:

Scotty (scummy)

Bo (as KZA wanted)

or

Wilgy (as he requested)

Could totally shoot Scotty

Bo seems to be genuinely enjoying himself and is decently polarized but since both of you know him better do you have specific insights?

Wilgy lolno

Yeah Mac isn't towny lul

Ender townreaders talk to me about Ender pls

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

Where's that spark I saw in RYM 96

i think paopan may be town rn based on his response and my spiritual vote is not on him, just haven't figured out where to go yet

@dyachei what's your read on me rn?

I have an idea of where you can go

Were you paying attention to Sloonei's posting in RYM perchance? It was miles townier than this even with low engagement.

I'm very tempted to just shoot Sloon

Etc.

C4's most substantive Day 1 posts are an exchange with Porscha that lists reasons to suspect her, but never develops in any meaningful way. The rest of c4's Day 1 feels like aimless prodding and asking for direction on who to shoot. I am lacking the full context leading up to his decision to shoot Bo, but based on c4's posts alone I do not find his process to be all that convincing.
The suspects c4 does prod for most of Day 1 are easy options. He starts with Creature, whose playstyle invites suspicion, especially early on. Then he shifts to Porscha, an unfamiliar face with light activity. Then he spends a few posts prodding me with no direction because of my absence/lack of spark. But c4 never actually put real pressure on me. He demanded that I post and then didn't have anything to say to me when I did.

Compare all of this to the amount of time and energy c4 puts into townreading people on Day 1. I am having trouble finding any evidence that he is making a sincere effort to uncover suspects. He steps in to declare town reads every once in a while, and then gropes around listlessly at potential suspects. I'm uninspired by all of this. If c4 is town, I need to see him demonstrate that he is actually trying to develop reads on players.

case me daddy

wolf son

[Justplayingitcool]

my experience in mafia

go to sleep no votes
wake up with all the votes

rinse repeat

This

[Justplayingitcool]

@ilario

What did i say in the comments to you that pinged you?

[Justplayingitcool]

Feels frustrating when everyone talks about me instead of at me

[Master Radishes]

Everyone asking what's Jpic

No one asking how's Jpic

[Justplayingitcool]

ok this is the part of the game where I announce that I’m taking over (from my bed where it’s warm):

Jpic and sig (and me) are the most likely towns with votes I think

Yet you’re voting for me

[Justplayingitcool]

Radishes you’re the only sane one left in this game

Help

[Master Radishes]

I do feel this game in particular is one where people start sussing whoever isn't in thread. Maybe it's shying away from confrontation. Maybe it's what-have-ya-done-for-me-lately syndrome. I just made that one up even.

[Justplayingitcool]

As far as i can tell, i only know ilario and alexa’s reasons for voting me

God knows what everyone else’s reasons are

[Phil and Gloria]

Day 2 - 2022 GOC

Player: Ahhh I am adequately townread. It is fair for me to take hiatus from this game for a small duration.

Other players: My god fuck I have 8 votes what do?! Fuck exactly PLAYER. Probably a wolf for REASONS. Votes/.

Player: Ah yes life is grande, I am reading my big newspaper or something. Ah that's right, I am in a mafia game. I will check in MOTHER OF GOD WHY DO I HAVE 11 VOTES ON ME WHAT DID I DO REEEEEE.

Other players: Sheesh guy I have 8 votes on me too whats ur problem?

Player:

Other players:

Player:

Other players:

Player:

Other players:

Literally anyone else:

[Master Radishes]

Radishes you’re the only sane one left in this game

Help

Flashbacks to GoC 2021 except in reverse and without Tetris.

[Justplayingitcool]

lol

[Master Radishes]

Ffs why does my phone put emojis when I quote sometimes.

[Master Radishes]

At least that one made sense. But I didn't intentionally put it there.

[112]

wow mac trying to give me a seizure

[Guillotine]

[112]

me every time i get tied up and thrown into the back of someone's vehicle

[LinearPoint]

What did Neeko come back to?

[sabie12]

Sorry I'm just so exhausted I fell asleep. My claim is legit so you'd know where I was coming from. I don't see how my shot helped dizzy? Why would shooting ender help him? It led to figuring him out. Of course wolves wouldn't want me to be kept alive at this point so they want you to believe that I had bad intentions. I wish I had a clearer view of what to do here and where to vote. I don't want to eliminate more town. I guess the thought is who do we get the most info from by thier flip. This initial vote is just to narrow it down to 8 who we then still need to narrow down to 4 from there after that.

[LinearPoint]

Honestly why Neeko unvoted Sabie, Sabie did at the start of day 2 post some fishing questions asking people if Ender's flip made Dizzy look scummier.
It lines up with their stated reason for shooting Ender.

[sabie12]

Mac's post pretty much sums it all up yeah haha. This mechanic is weird and we're all so all over the place. Imagine we still have a ton more day 2 left. Woooo

[Phil and Gloria]

hourly reminder to unvote tsp

[LinearPoint]

hourly reminder to unvote tsp

The next hour is in 23 minutes. Try again at that time.

[Justplayingitcool]

hourly reminder to unvote tsp

tsp is dead to me

[sabie12]

hourly reminder to unvote tsp

I have to catch up but why is this? I feel like his play here is similar to last game where he was mafia and the eod seasnzie wagon again. I don't believe the entire seanzie wagon was town.

[LinearPoint]

hourly reminder to unvote tsp

I have to catch up but why is this? I feel like his play here is similar to last game where he was mafia and the eod seasnzie wagon again. I don't believe the entire seanzie wagon was town.

Wait, again?
This isn't the first time TSP drove an EoD wagon into Sean?