The Syndicate

Draconus wrote:

leetic wrote:After a long day of chores, this is what I come back to. Seriously, guys?

Oh well. Is there a deadchat for this game?

I do not have one set up for this game, no. If enough people show enough interest in it I could ask one of our wonderful MODs to make one.

I'd be interested in one, can't speak for the others though.

[insert aggravated groaning]

Sorry, leetic. Well you wised up in the very end.

By the way, how are ties resolved in this site?

rabbit8 wrote:Serge....

Still think Sig too.

I think you're scum.

Scum will try and get me lynched tomorrow. Or sig, if he's town. We're the easiest choices. Just remember that yesterday was a very easy lynch and I couldn't believe it went through. 3 players didn't vote and I'd be willing to wager at least one of those 3 is scum.

Bullzeye
Gleam
Metalmarsh

I'll be voting Metalmarsh tomorrow

Serge wrote:Scum will try and get me lynched tomorrow. Or sig, if he's town. We're the easiest choices. Just remember that yesterday was a very easy lynch and I couldn't believe it went through. 3 players didn't vote and I'd be willing to wager at least one of those 3 is scum.

Bullzeye
Gleam
Metalmarsh

I'll be voting Metalmarsh tomorrow

I'll be voting sig tomorrow

Serge wrote:Scum will try and get me lynched tomorrow. Or sig, if he's town. We're the easiest choices. Just remember that yesterday was a very easy lynch and I couldn't believe it went through. 3 players didn't vote and I'd be willing to wager at least one of those 3 is scum.

Bullzeye
Gleam
Metalmarsh

I'll be voting Metalmarsh tomorrow

How is a 3 way tie an easy lynch?

Quin wrote:

Serge wrote:Scum will try and get me lynched tomorrow. Or sig, if he's town. We're the easiest choices. Just remember that yesterday was a very easy lynch and I couldn't believe it went through. 3 players didn't vote and I'd be willing to wager at least one of those 3 is scum.

Bullzeye
Gleam
Metalmarsh

I'll be voting Metalmarsh tomorrow

I'll be voting sig tomorrow

aaaand we've learned nothing

Another terrible lynch. Town, get your act together please.

insertnamehere wrote:

Quin wrote:

Serge wrote:Scum will try and get me lynched tomorrow. Or sig, if he's town. We're the easiest choices. Just remember that yesterday was a very easy lynch and I couldn't believe it went through. 3 players didn't vote and I'd be willing to wager at least one of those 3 is scum.

Bullzeye
Gleam
Metalmarsh

I'll be voting Metalmarsh tomorrow

I'll be voting sig tomorrow

aaaand we've learned nothing

What makes you think that?

rabbit8 wrote:

Serge wrote:Scum will try and get me lynched tomorrow. Or sig, if he's town. We're the easiest choices. Just remember that yesterday was a very easy lynch and I couldn't believe it went through. 3 players didn't vote and I'd be willing to wager at least one of those 3 is scum.

Bullzeye
Gleam
Metalmarsh

I'll be voting Metalmarsh tomorrow

How is a 3 way tie an easy lynch?

I assume that whichever's name reaches a certain vote count first they get lynched. This is why I'm asking how ties are resolved.

Everything was happening so fast. The little hope that remained was falling apart for humanity. At the moment, Zebra only hoped that all of the citizens were able to escape, unharmed. The ten and seven meter titans before her, dripping with the blood of her comrades, didn't leave room to hope for much more than that. Both approached her, hideous smiles upon their faces. She was on her knees still, her blades in front of her still steaming with the blood of the titan she failed to kill. What use is it? Why should we continue to struggle and die? As long as the civilians have escaped this time... that's all that matters, right? The ten meter titan was closer. It began to reach out for her. I'm exhausted. I can't do this anymore.
Fight!
What? Zebra thought she was imagining things.
Fight!
No. I can't. She thought.
Fight! Fight! Tatakai! If we don't fight, we lose. If we don't fight, humanity loses. Tatakai! TATAKAI!
Yes. As the titan's hand began to close around her, Zebra grabbed her blades with lightning fast reflexes, and swung them both vertically with such strength, she cut all of the titan's fingers from it's hand and broke her right blade in the process. She leaped back out of the titan's reach, ejected the broken blade and drew a new one.
Zebra was gritting her teeth, staring down the titans before her. This is not over. "THIS IS NOT OVER!!" Nearby comrades stared at her in disbelief. "Humanity must rise. We must fight. Or die trying!!" Some of the others were moved to tears. But they all drew their blades. They all gave a loud battle cry as they moved to make their attack...

About time we caught a break

Serge wrote:Sorry, leetic. Well you wised up in the very end.

By the way, how are ties resolved in this site?

It varies between hosts. As for myself and this short game, I am randomizing ties.

Day 3 Lynch Votes:

leetic:
DrWilgy (3), Serge (4)
Metalmarsh89:
a2thezebra (5), leetic (7)
Serge:
insertnamehere (9)
sig:
Quin (2), rabbit8.1 (8)

agleaminranks, Bullzeye, Metalmarsh89, and sig did not vote.

So that was either because of eren's secret ability or overall inactivity of the mafia.What are the odds of three baddies all forgetting to do a kill? Or is this is a ploy to make us think baddies are inactive? Find out next time on Attack on Titan Z!

leetic wrote:LOL, am I still alive? The poll says so, so...

LEETIC IS DEAD LONG LIVE LEETIC

insertnamehere wrote:

leetic wrote:LOL, am I still alive? The poll says so, so...

LEETIC IS DEAD LONG LIVE LEETIC

Well vote for me! Nothing like being lynched twice in the same slot!

Let's lynch Metalmarsh89 already.

a2thezebra wrote:Let's lynch Metalmarsh89 already.

This is exactly what I mean when I said this:

insertnamehere wrote:aaaand we've learned nothing

We need to actually get back into the habit of discussing who we want to vote for instead of just tunnel-vision'ing one specific person. This shit is how scum wins games.

I'm not tunneling anyone. I'm the one who opposed the horrible last two lynches. We need to lynch Metalmarsh89.

a2thezebra wrote:I'm not tunneling anyone. I'm the one who opposed the horrible last two lynches. We need to lynch Metalmarsh89.

What's your thought on MM? He hasn't made a whole lot of posts so far in this game. I could see him being a lackadaisical Mafia member trying to skirt attention, but otherwise I don't know. The lynch results have been shit so far. I don't want to risk one more bad vote.

a2thezebra wrote:We need to lynch Metalmarsh89.

With a comprehensive and flawless argument like that, how could I say no?

a2thezebra wrote:For the record, I acknowledge some responsibility in Bass' lynch. I should've fought against it, but I was not online when Bass took the lead and before then I did not think he would get the lead. I should've fought against it anyway but what's done is done.

You helped with the bass lynch by voting for him then not saving him? You really felt the need to make this post because... ? Sounds like you're distancing your defense you never made from, what? Your vote of him that day? This is a weird defense for something you where never accused of..... I don't like it.

a2thezebra wrote:

leetic wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:I also think that sig is bad but I've been wrong about sig too many times to put my vote there...for now.

Why are you relying on meta reads? Keep this post in mind if sig flips scum.

I'm not relying on meta reads, I'm relying(?) on my failure to read a particular player.

No you're relying on not getting your teammate lynched with meta bullshit, I think. By saying you think he is bad you're covering you're bases, I think.

a2thezebra wrote:

sig wrote:Is there a reason to lynch MM?

Would you rather be lynched instead?

So, no reason. I couldn't find one you made regarding MM.

a2thezebra wrote:Let's lynch Metalmarsh89 already.

Still no reason.

a2thezebra wrote:I'm not tunneling anyone. I'm the one who opposed the horrible last two lynches. We need to lynch Metalmarsh89.

Yes, yes you are.

a2thezebra wrote:I'm not tunneling anyone. I'm the one who opposed the horrible last two lynches. We need to lynch Metalmarsh89.

And you never opposed the Bass lynch, you claimed you did, but you didn't.

You switched you're vote at the end of the day, that's not opposing it.

You never opposed either lynch. You threatened sig with a lynch. But oppose, no.

That's lying, who does that?

RIP leetic sorry to see you go.

Maybe the mafia targeted our bulletproof civ last night and that is why there was no kill.

I won't be around much today since I'll be out.

gasp Sig has a social life

I need to reassess again, I really have no idea who to lynch at this point. My gut is telling me Serge, but my gut hasn't been all that helpful lately.

agleaminranks wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:I'm not tunneling anyone. I'm the one who opposed the horrible last two lynches. We need to lynch Metalmarsh89.

What's your thought on MM? He hasn't made a whole lot of posts so far in this game. I could see him being a lackadaisical Mafia member trying to skirt attention, but otherwise I don't know. The lynch results have been shit so far. I don't want to risk one more bad vote.

That's exactly what I think he's doing. The civilian MM that I've come to know is much more vocal and much more carefree with what he says, not worrying about the amount of flack he'll get for various statements and actions, similar to myself actually. I think he was saved yesterday, if you look at his vote record it's pretty damning as well, although I don't think that vote records by themselves should sway anyone to be suspicious of someone.

insertnamehere wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:We need to lynch Metalmarsh89.

With a comprehensive and flawless argument like that, how could I say no?

Would you rather I pretended to have an extremely thought-out detailed account of his actions in the thread and why that makes him bad so everyone could scroll past it and treat it with no more interest than what I've already said? My suspicion of MM is simple and I'm not going to pretend that it's complex and intricate to try to win more people over.

rabbit8 wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:For the record, I acknowledge some responsibility in Bass' lynch. I should've fought against it, but I was not online when Bass took the lead and before then I did not think he would get the lead. I should've fought against it anyway but what's done is done.

You helped with the bass lynch by voting for him then not saving him? You really felt the need to make this post because... ? Sounds like you're distancing your defense you never made from, what? Your vote of him that day? This is a weird defense for something you where never accused of..... I don't like it.

I don't understand this post so I'm going to imply that there's no reason for it to exist and that this person is suspicious because I don't see where they're coming from.

a2thezebra wrote:

leetic wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:I also think that sig is bad but I've been wrong about sig too many times to put my vote there...for now.

Why are you relying on meta reads? Keep this post in mind if sig flips scum.

I'm not relying on meta reads, I'm relying(?) on my failure to read a particular player.

No you're relying on not getting your teammate lynched with meta bullshit, I think. By saying you think he is bad you're covering you're bases, I think.

If he was my teammate I wouldn't be on the fence with him. I'd either be defending him hard or attacking him with everything I've got. Unlike the last two garbage lynches, I will not oppose a sig lynch even though I won't contribute to it with a vote myself, so I'm trying to keep him from getting lynched then I'm doing a shit job of it.

a2thezebra wrote:

sig wrote:Is there a reason to lynch MM?

Would you rather be lynched instead?

So, no reason. I couldn't find one you made regarding MM.

That response was re-affirming that I am not opposed to lynch sig, stop misrepresenting me. You don't actually think that that response was meant to be a direct and honest answer to the question so the fact that you're treating it like one tells me that you're full of shit with your entire contrived suspicion of me that has come out of nowhere.

a2thezebra wrote:Let's lynch Metalmarsh89 already.

Still no reason.

It was stated earlier. You've been extremely careful not to reference it.

a2thezebra wrote:I'm not tunneling anyone. I'm the one who opposed the horrible last two lynches. We need to lynch Metalmarsh89.

Yes, yes you are.

Who am I tunneling?

rabbit8 wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:I'm not tunneling anyone. I'm the one who opposed the horrible last two lynches. We need to lynch Metalmarsh89.

And you never opposed the Bass lynch, you claimed you did, but you didn't.

You switched you're vote at the end of the day, that's not opposing it.

You never opposed either lynch. You threatened sig with a lynch. But oppose, no.

That's lying, who does that?

I admitted that I'm partially responsible for Bass' lynch because I didn't oppose it vocally enough, but I did oppose it. How was switching my vote from one candidate to another, neither of which were Bass, relevant to how much I opposed Bass? You're seeming more and more desperate to misrepresent me and at this point it's extremely suspicious. If MM flips bad then I'm coming after you.

sig wrote: Maybe the mafia targeted our bulletproof civ last night and that is why there was no kill.

I think maybe you're on to something there. Who was the night update post consistently referencing again? It might be that person. Maybe we should look at their reads and see if mafia targeted them because they were on to something.

Sorry for not being around, was busy with work and then a bunch of other things happened. Will have to catch up but I'm back for now at least...

Well Zebra, if you're reading MM as scum based on metagame, general reads, and a bad voting record, I personally can only really see some slight merit in the last one.

If you wanna vote MM, go ahead. But unless you come up with a case that's able to convince someone other than yourself, I'm not gonna consider it.

Also, I disagree that if you made a big Leetic-esque wall post people would ignore it.

I'm fighting a losing battle to get people to ACTUALLY analyze things and not just vote because of vague reads and metagame wackiness.

a2thezebra wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:My comment was clearly a joke, yours just looks like you're directly criticising the people who voted Bass. You don't even frame it as an accusation, just that they should have known he wasn't bad.

Your joke served no purpose, my criticism did not. And the underlined is true, what is your objection exactly? I'd like to hear from the people that voted Bass because I don't understand why they suspected him. It's not a criticism of them, but their actions. Is that not cool or what?

You never said why you suspected MM over sig or Leetic. Not once. So no reason given IMO. Just vote MM because of the same thing these two did.

Rabbit. You civ?

DrWilgy wrote:Rabbit. You civ?

What answer are you honestly expecting?

insertnamehere wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Rabbit. You civ?

What answer are you honestly expecting?

Either a short or long one. Maybe a question within a question. How bout you?

insertnamehere wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:Let's lynch Metalmarsh89 already.

This is exactly what I mean when I said this:

insertnamehere wrote:aaaand we've learned nothing

We need to actually get back into the habit of discussing who we want to vote for instead of just tunnel-vision'ing one specific person. This shit is how scum wins games.

I'm all for that. Let's discuss things. Tell me who you think is bad and why. You're saying a lot of 'everyone stop the tunnel vision and analyse things!' but frankly, it feels to me like you're calling tunnel vision just because we aren't voting who you want us to vote for.

I'd like to contribute the idea that sig didn't vote yesterday and didn't address that when he returned. Kind of seems to me like he just didn't want the attention at EoD. He's got some pretty detailed scum reads on Serge, which I think is going to reflect on one another's alignment depending on who flips first.

Quin wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:Let's lynch Metalmarsh89 already.

This is exactly what I mean when I said this:

insertnamehere wrote:aaaand we've learned nothing

We need to actually get back into the habit of discussing who we want to vote for instead of just tunnel-vision'ing one specific person. This shit is how scum wins games.

I'm all for that. Let's discuss things. Tell me who you think is bad and why. You're saying a lot of 'everyone stop the tunnel vision and analyse things!' but frankly, it feels to me like you're calling tunnel vision just because we aren't voting who you want us to vote for.

I'd like to contribute the idea that sig didn't vote yesterday and didn't address that when he returned. Kind of seems to me like he just didn't want the attention at EoD. He's got some pretty detailed scum reads on Serge, which I think is going to reflect on one another's alignment depending on who flips first.

So you think these two are on opposing teams?

DrWilgy wrote:

Quin wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:Let's lynch Metalmarsh89 already.

This is exactly what I mean when I said this:

insertnamehere wrote:aaaand we've learned nothing

We need to actually get back into the habit of discussing who we want to vote for instead of just tunnel-vision'ing one specific person. This shit is how scum wins games.

I'm all for that. Let's discuss things. Tell me who you think is bad and why. You're saying a lot of 'everyone stop the tunnel vision and analyse things!' but frankly, it feels to me like you're calling tunnel vision just because we aren't voting who you want us to vote for.

I'd like to contribute the idea that sig didn't vote yesterday and didn't address that when he returned. Kind of seems to me like he just didn't want the attention at EoD. He's got some pretty detailed scum reads on Serge, which I think is going to reflect on one another's alignment depending on who flips first.

So you think these two are on opposing teams?

At this moment in time, yes. And given that I would prefer to lynch sig over Serge, I'd say sig is the baddie.

insertnamehere wrote:I'm fighting a losing battle to get people to ACTUALLY analyze things and not just vote because of vague reads and metagame wackiness.

Welcome to my world.

Zebra, Rabbit, what do you think of INH?

Quin wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:Let's lynch Metalmarsh89 already.

This is exactly what I mean when I said this:

insertnamehere wrote:aaaand we've learned nothing

We need to actually get back into the habit of discussing who we want to vote for instead of just tunnel-vision'ing one specific person. This shit is how scum wins games.

I'm all for that. Let's discuss things. Tell me who you think is bad and why. You're saying a lot of 'everyone stop the tunnel vision and analyse things!' but frankly, it feels to me like you're calling tunnel vision just because we aren't voting who you want us to vote for.

I'd like to contribute the idea that sig didn't vote yesterday and didn't address that when he returned. Kind of seems to me like he just didn't want the attention at EoD. He's got some pretty detailed scum reads on Serge, which I think is going to reflect on one another's alignment depending on who flips first.

I think that Serge is scum, and I'm also beginning to suspect Zebra. Serge for both going after Leetic hardcore for no other reason than NO U, and getting super aggressive whenever anybody either questioned or suspected him. Zebra for attacking MM with, in my opinion, little to no reason, and for using voting records as both a shield and a sword, when they can mean jack-squat and are a favorite tool for scum trying to steer lynches. I've played in too many games where mafia members ensured that one member always voted in the right direction in order to establish cred, and civilians are lynched for being confused and not choosing the right people to trust.

Do I wanna go after Zebra today? No, I'd rather go after Serge. But she's someone who has a big from me. (And not just for thinking True Detective Season 2 is better than Season 1. I will have a post up in the True Detective thread analyzing both seasons tomorrow.)

I also agree that a Serge lynch would reflect heavily on sig.

Quin wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

Quin wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:Let's lynch Metalmarsh89 already.

This is exactly what I mean when I said this:

insertnamehere wrote:aaaand we've learned nothing

We need to actually get back into the habit of discussing who we want to vote for instead of just tunnel-vision'ing one specific person. This shit is how scum wins games.

I'm all for that. Let's discuss things. Tell me who you think is bad and why. You're saying a lot of 'everyone stop the tunnel vision and analyse things!' but frankly, it feels to me like you're calling tunnel vision just because we aren't voting who you want us to vote for.

I'd like to contribute the idea that sig didn't vote yesterday and didn't address that when he returned. Kind of seems to me like he just didn't want the attention at EoD. He's got some pretty detailed scum reads on Serge, which I think is going to reflect on one another's alignment depending on who flips first.

So you think these two are on opposing teams?

At this moment in time, yes. And given that I would prefer to lynch sig over Serge, I'd say sig is the baddie.

I agree that sig's whole NO U kerfuffle is weird, but I honestly think that Serge is way more likely to be bad than him.

I feel that a Quin or INH lynch would reflect heavily on the other.

DrWilgy wrote:I feel that a Quin or INH lynch would reflect heavily on the other.

I feel that a shut up

DrWilgy wrote:I feel that a Quin or INH lynch would reflect heavily on the other.

Could you elaborate on why you think that? I honestly don't know if you think we're teammates or on opposite teams.

Wow, INH, how have I been super aggressive? Sure, I wanted leetic to get lynched but faulting me for my read just because he turned out to be town? I could've gone for any easier mark but I'm honestly surprised I got him lynched. I guess let's forego the fact that leetic before he croaked dropped his sights on me even though they were pretty dead set on me.

I'm sorry I haven't lynched a scum yet. If I knew who the scum were then we would've won by now, and I'd be bannes from all Mafia games from here to eternity.

DrWilgy wrote:Rabbit. You civ?

Yes...