Willow [Endgame]

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Re: Willow [Day 7]

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I can't talk about what happened during the night, so you either trust me or not, it's your prerogative. I think it's DH and there's a tiny chance it could be Bea, but everything is pointing to DH.

INH, either way, even if we vote for DH, and he turns out to be the civ, which I highly doubt, we can still win the game, because the baddie can't make a kill next night and it all depends on next day's vote.
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Re: Willow [Day 7]

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FZ. wrote:I can't talk about what happened during the night, so you either trust me or not, it's your prerogative. I think it's DH and there's a tiny chance it could be Bea, but everything is pointing to DH.

INH, either way, even if we vote for DH, and he turns out to be the civ, which I highly doubt, we can still win the game, because the baddie can't make a kill next night and it all depends on next day's vote.
Who are you addressing this to? INH? Or everyone?

I've trusted you from the start of this game, but your comments feel a little throw me under the bus now.

It's either - you or me or DH.

I get how the numbers work and I get that I've been a poor civ.

Forgive my freekout - I've been drinking and prolly should go to bed soon.

But you were worried that I don't interact so I am now - while I'm up and able to.
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Re: Willow [Day 7]

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I'm not throwing you under the bus. I still think it's DH.

The person I trust the most is INH. I think I trust you too, and I say vote for DH. If by any chance he comes up civ, I'll have to look at you because I think my role is pretty obvious.

Are you with me on DH?
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Re: Willow [Day 7]

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I think between you and DH -

I have more good feels about you than he.

But he DOES have a decent point that we are now getting into the numbers - it can only be a few of us that are bad.

And I am curious as to why he sees you as bad. I'd like to hear what he has to say.

long story short - my vote is likely DH - but I'm giving him a window to talk before I just vote.
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bea wrote:I think between you and DH -

I have more good feels about you than he.

But he DOES have a decent point that we are now getting into the numbers - it can only be a few of us that are bad.

And I am curious as to why he sees you as bad. I'd like to hear what he has to say.

long story short - my vote is likely DH - but I'm giving him a window to talk before I just vote.
So why are you not doubting INH? See, this is what makes me doubt you a little.
But since this really is a case of numbers, and if what is written in the first page is correct, we only have one more baddie left, so I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt now, and go after the person who has voted for a civvie ever lynch (unless you're not a civvie), and has give us absolutely no reason to trust him. If he turns out to be a civ, I'll be surprised but not floored, and I will be left with you. Why would you be left with me?
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Re: Willow [Day 7]

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bea wrote:I think between you and DH -

I have more good feels about you than he.

But he DOES have a decent point that we are now getting into the numbers - it can only be a few of us that are bad.

And I am curious as to why he sees you as bad. I'd like to hear what he has to say.

long story short - my vote is likely DH - but I'm giving him a window to talk before I just vote.
So why are you not doubting INH? See, this is what makes me doubt you a little.
But since this really is a case of numbers, and if what is written in the first page is correct, we only have one more baddie left, so I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt now, and go after the person who has voted for a civvie ever lynch (unless you're not a civvie), and has give us absolutely no reason to trust him. If he turns out to be a civ, I'll be surprised but not floored, and I will be left with you. Why would you be left with me?
Ironicly INH has made the most sense to me this game. I've made more than one comment about how weird that was. I'm used to him being crazy. His being the voice of reason is weird to me, but it's a voice of reason I can't deny.
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Re: Willow [Day 7]

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FZ. wrote:
bea wrote:I think between you and DH -

I have more good feels about you than he.

But he DOES have a decent point that we are now getting into the numbers - it can only be a few of us that are bad.

And I am curious as to why he sees you as bad. I'd like to hear what he has to say.

long story short - my vote is likely DH - but I'm giving him a window to talk before I just vote.
So why are you not doubting INH? See, this is what makes me doubt you a little.
But since this really is a case of numbers, and if what is written in the first page is correct, we only have one more baddie left, so I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt now, and go after the person who has voted for a civvie ever lynch (unless you're not a civvie), and has give us absolutely no reason to trust him. If he turns out to be a civ, I'll be surprised but not floored, and I will be left with you. Why would you be left with me?
I never said I was left with you. I thought you were civ the whole way around. Unless someone else can make me think I was wrong in thinking that, I'm not changing my opinion there.

I am giving DH the BOTD. I want to hear what he has to say - just because.

that should be at least understandable.
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Re: Willow [Day 7]

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Sure, no problem. It is understandable :)

Anyway, I won't be here until tomorrow evening my time, so my vote is in.

If by any chance, we win the game after that lynch, wait for me to party :p
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Re: Willow [Day 7]

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FZ. wrote:Sure, no problem. It is understandable :)

Anyway, I won't be here until tomorrow evening my time, so my vote is in.

If by any chance, we win the game after that lynch, wait for me to party :p
I've got my dancing shoes on...just waiting to see what the other card carriers have to say...
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Re: Willow [Day 7]

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FZ. wrote:haha, that was supposed to be:

Epi, can Meegosh save himself?
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Re: Willow [Day 7]

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Sorry, ment Madmartigan, not Meegosh :blush:
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Re: Willow [Day 7]

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Has anyone even told BWT he is in this game?
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Re: Willow [Day 7]

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Well, the way I see it Burglekutt has decided today for me? So, I don't necessarily deserve to win with the rest of you guys but here's my two cents:

Unless FZ's vote was forced to SVS the time he voted for her first, I don't think he's the last mafia. That makes bea the one you guys should lynch. Though INH wins either way I suspect, so good luck.
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Also I'm disappointed that post-piggie bwt wasn't as big a trump card as I thought he would be after I read that he'd been unpigged.
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Re: Willow [Day 7]

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DharmaHelper wrote:Well, the way I see it Burglekutt has decided today for me? So, I don't necessarily deserve to win with the rest of you guys but here's my two cents:

Unless FZ's vote was forced to SVS the time he voted for her first, I don't think he's the last mafia. That makes bea the one you guys should lynch. Though INH wins either way I suspect, so good luck.
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Re: Willow [Day 7]

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DharmaHelper wrote:Well, the way I see it Burglekutt has decided today for me? So, I don't necessarily deserve to win with the rest of you guys but here's my two cents:

Unless FZ's vote was forced to SVS the time he voted for her first, I don't think he's the last mafia. That makes bea the one you guys should lynch. Though INH wins either way I suspect, so good luck.
You still think I'm Burgle? Even after FZ is trying her hardest to hint like crazy that she is? Anyway, I'm going with you.
If you're not burglekutt then that eliminates any reservation I have about voting for you :/
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DharmaHelper wrote:
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DharmaHelper wrote:Well, the way I see it Burglekutt has decided today for me? So, I don't necessarily deserve to win with the rest of you guys but here's my two cents:

Unless FZ's vote was forced to SVS the time he voted for her first, I don't think he's the last mafia. That makes bea the one you guys should lynch. Though INH wins either way I suspect, so good luck.
You still think I'm Burgle? Even after FZ is trying her hardest to hint like crazy that she is? Anyway, I'm going with you.
If you're not burglekutt then that eliminates any reservation I have about voting for you :/
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insertnamehere wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
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DharmaHelper wrote:Well, the way I see it Burglekutt has decided today for me? So, I don't necessarily deserve to win with the rest of you guys but here's my two cents:

Unless FZ's vote was forced to SVS the time he voted for her first, I don't think he's the last mafia. That makes bea the one you guys should lynch. Though INH wins either way I suspect, so good luck.
You still think I'm Burgle? Even after FZ is trying her hardest to hint like crazy that she is? Anyway, I'm going with you.
If you're not burglekutt then that eliminates any reservation I have about voting for you :/
May I ask why you want to vote for me?
Because if you're not burglekutt then that makes either you or bea the last mafia?
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DharmaHelper wrote:
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DharmaHelper wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Well, the way I see it Burglekutt has decided today for me? So, I don't necessarily deserve to win with the rest of you guys but here's my two cents:

Unless FZ's vote was forced to SVS the time he voted for her first, I don't think he's the last mafia. That makes bea the one you guys should lynch. Though INH wins either way I suspect, so good luck.
You still think I'm Burgle? Even after FZ is trying her hardest to hint like crazy that she is? Anyway, I'm going with you.
If you're not burglekutt then that eliminates any reservation I have about voting for you :/
May I ask why you want to vote for me?
Because if you're not burglekutt then that makes either you or bea the last mafia?
Why do you trust FZ?
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You're the one who said you think FZ is burgle. There was a vote where FZ was the first to vote for SVS, so unless FZ was Burgled, that makes FZ not a mafia.
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Going with DH.
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Well done whoever the real baddie is
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Destroy the beast! Find the baby! *Ahem* Lynch someone evil.

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Well, feces. Bea, you son of a Gunderson.

Epig! I'm assuming that BWT was a modkill?
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Unless FZ either turns on me out of the blue, which I don't think that she would do, or if FZ is playing one of the best baddie games I have ever seen, (I wouldn't even be mad) we pretty much have this in the bag.
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Hehe, now, whoever wants to convince me to go with them, is more than welcome :p
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FZ. wrote:Hehe, now, whoever wants to convince me to go with them, is more than welcome :p
FZ, I've fought tooth and nail in order to win this game. I'm notoriously challenged at mafia. I've been playing for 2 and half years, and I can count the amount of times I have won on my fingers. I've put more effort into going over and re-reading certain people than I have in any game. I even made a spreadsheet for christ's sake. I never make a spreadsheet. If you look at the who posted window, I've posted 80 times, second only to you. Bea, I love you, but I feel like I put in more effort to further my team's goals. Anyway, that's my 2 cents.
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I'm kidding INH, I'm going with you. I've just done really badly this game in terms of guessing the baddies, lol, that I feel Bea deserves to win this too. Yesterday, I was telling myself to trust my thoughts on Bea when I said she wasn't really pointing fingers back in the first few days of the game. Somehow, I let her lull me into false trustworthiness...
I pried myself in being good at finding baddies, but I really sucked this game.

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By the way, INH, I love the quote you have in your signature. Is it for real? Did you actually host that game or was it a joke?
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FZ. wrote:By the way, INH, I love the quote you have in your signature. Is it for real? Did you actually host that game or was it a joke?
It hasn't happened yet, and it is most definitely for real.

See this thread if you want to be the co-host:

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FZ. wrote:I'm kidding INH, I'm going with you. I've just done really badly this game in terms of guessing the baddies, lol, that I feel Bea deserves to win this too. Yesterday, I was telling myself to trust my thoughts on Bea when I said she wasn't really pointing fingers back in the first few days of the game. Somehow, I let her lull me into false trustworthiness...
I pried myself in being good at finding baddies, but I really sucked this game.

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:( Just because I've been sucky this game doesn't mean I'm not a civ. If you want to let INH win FZ that's fine, you can let the baddies win. My head never really got into this game I'll admit. I prolly deserve to losse one for all the suck I've had.
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Bye bea. Early lynch post maybe?
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I voted for the real baddie. :noble:
I was born to speak all mirth and no matter.... :wine:
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bea wrote::( Just because I've been sucky this game doesn't mean I'm not a civ. If you want to let INH win FZ that's fine, you can let the baddies win. My head never really got into this game I'll admit. I prolly deserve to losse one for all the suck I've had.
Nah, Bea. You did a great job, and we did badly, but you can't convince me about this. If I hadn't promised INH I'll be going with him, I'd give you the win because you deserve it more than most of the civvies, but I'm a woman of my word :p

Sorry *votes Bea*

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Re: Willow [Day 8]

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Can we just end the game now?
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FZ. wrote:Can we just end the game now?
Can a fella get his chicken in the oven? :p
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Re: Willow [Day 8]

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Is that a rhetorical question?

No :p
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Re: Willow [Day 8]

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FZ. wrote:Can we just end the game now?
Can a fella get his chicken in the oven? :p
Jesus, Epig this is a family friendly game!
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Re: Willow [Day 8]

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Endgame: Kael's Death



bea has been lynched. She was General Kael.

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Yes!!!! My first win in TS! :D Heck, my first time not getting NK :p


*High fives INH* :D We don't deserve it, but we did it, lol.

Bea, great game. Sorry I had to go with INH :shrug: I think you did great :)

Thanks for a very enjoyable game Epi :D
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Re: Willow [Endgame]

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Oh, and thank you to TH and llama for handing me SVS :D Couldn't have done it without you
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Fantastic game Epig! FZ, you were great in this game, and bea hanged on for as long as she could. Good job to everyone.

So, I was Madmartigan. On Night 1, I protected Andrew. On Night 2, I protected myself. I kept on following this pattern, other player, myself, other player, myself. This means that after SVS was eliminated, I was safe from any NK's. I desperately wanted Kael to NK me, but I'm assuming she just caught on to what I was doing :p
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Re: Willow [Endgame]

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Well, thanks for turning what was supposed to be a simple, straightforward game into something complicated in a hurry.

This is why we can't have nice things. :evileye:

Anyway, here are some thoughts:

I was shocked by all the thinking that I’d tweaked them for Andrew’s sake.

The Prologue poll was to determine who would be the tie-breaker. Andrew and Kate tied. I rolled a die, best two out of three. Andrew was odd, Kate was even. I rolled three 5s (Yahtzee!). So Andrew would decide all ties. This would be done by submitting a list. #1 is the person he deems most suspicious, and #14 would be the person he trusted most (presumably himself). He could update the list at any time. That’s how ties were handled. juliets resubmitted the list after she subbed in.

On Night 1, Turnip Head made S~V~S target birdwithteeth11. The original target was DharmaHelper. This understandably cemented the TH / thellama suspicion of S~V~S.

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So this is where things got squirrely:

On Night 3, FZ. forced juliets and bea to vote for Kate. Juliets elected not to, and bea missed the vote. I tend to consider not following through on a vote curse tantamount to breaking a rule (imagine if someone who was silenced chose to speak in the thread anyway).

However, it would not have been fair to FZ. to modkill them, because it would have ended the game and FZ. would have lost.

So I decided the thread would get a taste of Super Burglekutt: All juliets’ and bea’s powers would go to FZ. permanently, without their knowledge.

That’s right. FZ. had a role block and controlled bea’s even Night kill.

And with great power, FZ. took down every remaining civilian except insertnamehere. FZ. was a Burglekutt in the richest sense: Determined to have peace without evildoers ruling the land, but not happy with others sharing the victory, haha.
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