The Syndicate

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Epi planned to to bus me hard since d1 to gain cred, and I played along. Getting me lynched was not the goal, but we figured out that if I managed to survive long enough it would give Epi enough cred to win us the game in the long term. He was worried the question system would make the game really complicated for us so he wanted to make strategic bussing from the start.

On d2, when I made that slip with G-Man and he voted me, it became clear I was going down. So the team literally threw me under the bus. Again, I just played along.

Golden wasn't bussing me from the start like Epi was, but he did it on d2 after we decided to sacrifice me.

My friend DDL has pretty much summed it up.

Except that we did not literally throw him under a bus.

That would be painful for him.

Black Rock wrote:Congratulations. I was going to go after Golden but I was killed a night early. I even tried to leave like I somewhat believed him so maybe he wouldn't kill me. I knew he must be Mafia when Llama turned civ.

I was always very wary of you. But on that last night epi asked me who I was most worried about and I was very clear - timmer. So you did a good job with that one.

Epignosis wrote:

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Epi planned to to bus me hard since d1 to gain cred, and I played along. Getting me lynched was not the goal, but we figured out that if I managed to survive long enough it would give Epi enough cred to win us the game in the long term. He was worried the question system would make the game really complicated for us so he wanted to make strategic bussing from the start.

On d2, when I made that slip with G-Man and he voted me, it became clear I was going down. So the team literally threw me under the bus. Again, I just played along.

Golden wasn't bussing me from the start like Epi was, but he did it on d2 after we decided to sacrifice me.

My friend DDL has pretty much summed it up.

Except that we did not literally throw him under a bus.

That would be painful for him.

It wasn't that we didn't want to.

Brazil is just a long way away.

Epignosis wrote:

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Epi planned to to bus me hard since d1 to gain cred, and I played along. Getting me lynched was not the goal, but we figured out that if I managed to survive long enough it would give Epi enough cred to win us the game in the long term. He was worried the question system would make the game really complicated for us so he wanted to make strategic bussing from the start.

On d2, when I made that slip with G-Man and he voted me, it became clear I was going down. So the team literally threw me under the bus. Again, I just played along.

Golden wasn't bussing me from the start like Epi was, but he did it on d2 after we decided to sacrifice me.

My friend DDL has pretty much summed it up.

Except that we did not literally throw him under a bus.

That would be painful for him.

f****** English teacher. :P

Golden wrote:It wasn't that we didn't want to.

Brazil is just a long way away.

Golden wrote:

Black Rock wrote:Congratulations. I was going to go after Golden but I was killed a night early. I even tried to leave like I somewhat believed him so maybe he wouldn't kill me. I knew he must be Mafia when Llama turned civ.

I was always very wary of you. But on that last night epi asked me who I was most worried about and I was very clear - timmer. So you did a good job with that one.

You should have killed him.

Black Rock wrote:

Golden wrote:

Black Rock wrote:Congratulations. I was going to go after Golden but I was killed a night early. I even tried to leave like I somewhat believed him so maybe he wouldn't kill me. I knew he must be Mafia when Llama turned civ.

I was always very wary of you. But on that last night epi asked me who I was most worried about and I was very clear - timmer. So you did a good job with that one.

You should have killed him.

G-Man wrote:That was painful to watch play out. Golden, I will now vote for you automatically on Day 1 if there is no obvious baddie slip-up. As with Economics, you being bad only started to make sense to me near the very end. I never pegged Epi as a baddie. Did you guys plan to set up DDL to be steamrolled or did he come by that on his own? Either way, it was the perfect way for Epi and Golden to sink to the bottom of everyone's suspect lists.

I'm glad I was right about DDL and SD but that only helps confirm that I still totally suck as a civvie.

Well done, you two. I am about to pay you the highest compliment I can give in this game: I hate you both.

I voted him Day 1 and forgot to do it again.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Also lol at MM having the info to take down Golden but never doing it because timmer was alive.

I've felt the fool quite a bit recently in endgames. Flash, RYM 86, this game... I don't know why you all keep my around so long. I've yet to win a game when making it to lylo as a civilian.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Also lol at MM having the info to take down Golden but never doing it because timmer was alive.

I've felt the fool quite a bit recently in endgames. Flash, RYM 86, this game... I don't know why you all keep my around so long. I've yet to win a game when making it to lylo as a civilian.

I'm not making fun of you about the shades thing though, you really had no option. You have 2 people with shades and didn't know who to pick. :P

But yeah, sometimes we have a rough streak in this game. It's okay though, I think you are pretty good at this game.

Black Rock wrote:

Golden wrote:

Black Rock wrote:Congratulations. I was going to go after Golden but I was killed a night early. I even tried to leave like I somewhat believed him so maybe he wouldn't kill me. I knew he must be Mafia when Llama turned civ.

I was always very wary of you. But on that last night epi asked me who I was most worried about and I was very clear - timmer. So you did a good job with that one.

You should have killed him.

We thought he wasn't gonna be active again so early.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

Golden wrote:

Black Rock wrote:Congratulations. I was going to go after Golden but I was killed a night early. I even tried to leave like I somewhat believed him so maybe he wouldn't kill me. I knew he must be Mafia when Llama turned civ.

I was always very wary of you. But on that last night epi asked me who I was most worried about and I was very clear - timmer. So you did a good job with that one.

You should have killed him.

We thought he wasn't gonna be active again so early.

Killing Black Rock is a sin you know. Epignosis is a sinner!!!

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Also lol at MM having the info to take down Golden but never doing it because timmer was alive.

I've felt the fool quite a bit recently in endgames. Flash, RYM 86, this game... I don't know why you all keep my around so long. I've yet to win a game when making it to lylo as a civilian.

I'm not making fun of you about the shades thing though, you really had no option. You have 2 people with shades and didn't know who to pick. :P

But yeah, sometimes we have a rough streak in this game. It's okay though, I think you are pretty good at this game.

Yes, but I went after llama on Day 4 instead, certainly helped along by others. That was obviously a mistake. Apparently I was the only player with information after your lynch though. :P I can take some comfort in that.

And it appears I was right this last day phase about the voting. It was as I feared, in that one mafia had already voted Hedgeowl while one had not, putting the game out of reach with nothing I could do. I didn't feel great about Epignosis's case on Hedgeowl, but felt even worse about timmer following his vote. I was almost certain at that point that timmer was on a team with nijuu or Golden, but unfortunately, due to them not voting yet, there was no chance of lynching either of them.

So it was either follow the Hedge vote, or try to lynch timmer.

I was apprehensive all morning yesterday that you weren't buying what I was selling, MM, and that you would persuade others to vote Golden.

Epignosis wrote:I was apprehensive all morning yesterday that you weren't buying what I was selling, MM, and that you would persuade others to vote Golden.

I'm sure with timmer following your vote, you felt rather relieved at that point. You also grew rather quiet after your case, but I know you like to discourage others from posting too much after voting, so I didn't think much of it. And I happened to be chatting with Elohcin, and she said you were at the store. :P

Elohcin and I were also talking about the logistics of dropping info into the thread, and how far I could take it. As it ends up, I said too much, so she deleted a post of mine. I was kinda glad she did though. I was treading lightly with my posts because I didn't want to break any rules or take it too far (which I did anyway). Not having to worry about that, I was able to be more assertive.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

Golden wrote:

Black Rock wrote:Congratulations. I was going to go after Golden but I was killed a night early. I even tried to leave like I somewhat believed him so maybe he wouldn't kill me. I knew he must be Mafia when Llama turned civ.

I was always very wary of you. But on that last night epi asked me who I was most worried about and I was very clear - timmer. So you did a good job with that one.

You should have killed him.

We thought he wasn't gonna be active again so early.

If you had killed timmer, Golden would have been the only one left alive with sunglasses.

Did you guys factor player avatars into your nightkills, or did you just kill people as you seemed fit?

I was indeed out. Buying more beer and dirt.

And going to the bank and the hardware store downtown to drop off a package for UPS. Busy day.

Night 1, we talked a little about killing based on avatars, but decided that killing whomever we deemed likely to win the question was the better strategy. Ultimately, it pretty much came down to taking out whomever was being the loudest at Night.

Well in that case, I was as surprised as you were that I got a question on Night 3.

In other exciting news, Cincinnati's Todd Frazier won the Home Run Derby last night. A small consolation for what some would call a dissappointing Reds' season.

As mafia, were you informed if you got the most votes to ask a question? Did that have anything to do with your case on Hedgeowl?

Epignosis wrote:Night 1, we talked a little about killing based on avatars, but decided that killing whomever we deemed likely to win the question was the better strategy. Ultimately, it pretty much came down to taking out whomever was being the loudest at Night.

I never get that many votes. I'm not that popular.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:As mafia, were you informed if you got the most votes to ask a question? Did that have anything to do with your case on Hedgeowl?

I was, and yes.

Epignosis wrote:Night 1, we talked a little about killing based on avatars, but decided that killing whomever we deemed likely to win the question was the better strategy. Ultimately, it pretty much came down to taking out whomever was being the loudest at Night.

Back in the day night-hiding was common but I always felt it gave an advantage to the baddies, especially in speed games where there is precious little time to engage in discussion. Too much night discussion can obviously help the baddies too but I was rarely around within an hour of the night post to talk then.

Interesting that, in a back-to-basics game, the baddies reverted to the back-to-basics tactic of intimidating civvies into being quiet at night. It also didn't hurt you guys too much that participation was hit or miss from several civvies throughout the game. I hope you guys didn't overthink your strategies and decisions too much because certain civvies made it pretty easy for you to win.

Spacedaisy wrote:I have no clue but you should have seen my reaction when he did. Something along the lines of, "you fucking cheater, who told you?!?" No one did though. It was the craziest thing I've ever seen.

Forthe record Timmer, my timing of my votes were what screwed me but it was due to my work schedule. And my posts on the day I died were all made before I even knew I was dead. So while correct about golden and I being on a team, I intended to cast my vote hoping to live and if I had I would have continued after golden. But I unknowingly missed the vote and was doomed anyway.

LOL, this is true. I don't know how I did it! I knew I wasn't playing any mafia, so she asked me what alignment I thought she was, and I said mafia. Then I just pulled DDL, Golden, and Epi out of the players I knew were in the game, without much thought. She seriously thought someone had told me. I was adamant that no one had.

Figures that I'm way better when I'm NOT playing the game.

Bummer I missed out on this, sounded like a lot of fun!

It just occurred to me. Why is Guess Who followed by a question mark? It's not a question, it's an imperative. It should be Guess Who! And your husband is an English teacher.

Congrats winners and thanks for the game Elo.

G-Man wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Night 1, we talked a little about killing based on avatars, but decided that killing whomever we deemed likely to win the question was the better strategy. Ultimately, it pretty much came down to taking out whomever was being the loudest at Night.

Back in the day night-hiding was common but I always felt it gave an advantage to the baddies, especially in speed games where there is precious little time to engage in discussion. Too much night discussion can obviously help the baddies too but I was rarely around within an hour of the night post to talk then.

Interesting that, in a back-to-basics game, the baddies reverted to the back-to-basics tactic of intimidating civvies into being quiet at night. It also didn't hurt you guys too much that participation was hit or miss from several civvies throughout the game. I hope you guys didn't overthink your strategies and decisions too much because certain civvies made it pretty easy for you to win.

Yeah, participation always impacts games, but I'm not sure, when people are traveling, what can be done about it. If a host limited signups to only those players who were guaranteeing never to miss a single day, they would never fill their games. But yeah, people disappear and depending on which side they are on, it invariably has an impact, tis true.

And thanks to Eloh, this was a fun concept for a game!

G-Man wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Night 1, we talked a little about killing based on avatars, but decided that killing whomever we deemed likely to win the question was the better strategy. Ultimately, it pretty much came down to taking out whomever was being the loudest at Night.

Back in the day night-hiding was common but I always felt it gave an advantage to the baddies, especially in speed games where there is precious little time to engage in discussion. Too much night discussion can obviously help the baddies too but I was rarely around within an hour of the night post to talk then.

Interesting that, in a back-to-basics game, the baddies reverted to the back-to-basics tactic of intimidating civvies into being quiet at night. It also didn't hurt you guys too much that participation was hit or miss from several civvies throughout the game. I hope you guys didn't overthink your strategies and decisions too much because certain civvies made it pretty easy for you to win.

We didn't overthink. That's why llama called the night kills boring

When people have abilities, you have to think about who might have them and taking them out. When you know that no-one has any abilities and all your kills will go through, the only thing you need to think about is who you want out.

You and rico were big threats to me because you are analysts and you would have definitely used the question well.

@MP - I, for one, am glad you didn't play this game.

Golden wrote: We didn't overthink. That's why llama called the night kills boring

Partially that, and partially just to annoy you guys. I hope it worked.

thellama73 wrote:It just occurred to me. Why is Guess Who followed by a question mark? It's not a question, it's an imperative. It should be Guess Who! And your husband is an English teacher.

I guess because the original game had it that way. But you are right. Now it makes me want to change the banners, but I will refrain. They took me two hours this morning (Again, Paint. I really need to learn how to use a more efficient program.)

Elohcin wrote:

thellama73 wrote:It just occurred to me. Why is Guess Who followed by a question mark? It's not a question, it's an imperative. It should be Guess Who! And your husband is an English teacher.

I guess because the original game had it that way. But you are right. Now it makes me want to change the banners, but I will refrain. They took me two hours this morning (Again, Paint. I really need to learn how to use a more efficient program.)

Photoshop is just for lazy people who are not good at Paint. Paint is awesome.

great fun little game even though I was killed off quickly I always enjoy games by Elo <3

Roxy wrote:great fun little game even though I was killed off quickly I always enjoy games by Elo <3

Roxy. I may have been bad, but I did keep you alive for a few nights.

(Primarily because it looked like you were really enjoying the game, and I was happy about that).

Golden wrote:

Roxy wrote:great fun little game even though I was killed off quickly I always enjoy games by Elo <3

Roxy. I may have been bad, but I did keep you alive for a few nights.

(Primarily because it looked like you were really enjoying the game, and I was happy about that).

Awww <3

Golden wrote:

Roxy wrote:great fun little game even though I was killed off quickly I always enjoy games by Elo <3

Roxy. I may have been bad, but I did keep you alive for a few nights.

(Primarily because it looked like you were really enjoying the game, and I was happy about that).

I wasn't having fun.