The Syndicate

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 5:39 pm**

Vulgard wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:25 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:23 pm AtE is one thing, but the way Daisy been at it is on a whole noter level.

I liked the way I played with Town Daisy in that other game.
That was a fun Daisy!
...Wait. Did Town Daisy never do this?

That game was about the same but less. Game ran shorter though

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 5:40 pm**

I for one, don't think that you and I are mafia teammates Daisy.

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 5:40 pm**

Daisy you say that no one listens to you which is true to the extent that I do not have any idea who you currently think is scum and why

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 5:40 pm**

Hmm stuff’s weird

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 5:41 pm**

I have no idea what to do with gav faking having a real red check but not being able to share it which is slightly more impressive than just normal fake claiming a red check

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 5:41 pm**

i have to go help devil some eggs so my thread access will be limited during the EoD, i'm dropping a vote on [VOTE: marmot] aubergine let me know if anything changes

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 5:41 pm**

I am not caught up in game!

I'm like 2 pages behind

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 5:42 pm**

I sorta think Marmot flips wolf here though

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 5:42 pm**

whoever thinks i k kw whst is going on you are wrong

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 5:42 pm**

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:41 pm I am not caught up in game!

I'm like 2 pages behind

Daisy I’ll pay you a dollar if you read those pages now and then tell me who the wolves are. No self defense required.

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 5:42 pm**

Here's my night actions

Night 1 - Mephala - target Telvanni Wizard role - they can go to Hermaus Mora, target a player, and learn about a shrine they can/can't access
Night 2 - Clavicus - I checked Daisy's race
Night 3 - Peryite - Delayed Mac's shrine CD refresh by a day
Night 4 - Sheogorath - Received a 1-shot ability
Night 5 - Vaermina - Learned a Scotty ability

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 5:43 pm**

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:42 pm whoever thinks i k kw whst is going on you are wrong

Okay that’s decent signature material

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 5:43 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:42 pm
DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:41 pm I am not caught up in game!

I'm like 2 pages behind
Daisy I’ll pay you a dollar if you read those pages now and then tell me who the wolves are. No self defense required.

The gold coin offer was better cuz inflation

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 5:44 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:42 pm Here's my night actions

Night 1 - Mephala - target Telvanni Wizard role - they can go to Hermaus Mora, target a player, and learn about a shrine they can/can't access
Night 2 - Clavicus - I checked Daisy's race
Night 3 - Peryite - Delayed Mac's shrine CD refresh by a day
Night 4 - Sheogorath - Received a 1-shot ability
Night 5 - Vaermina - Learned a Scotty ability

Huh

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 5:44 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:43 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:42 pm
DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:41 pm I am not caught up in game!

I'm like 2 pages behind
Daisy I’ll pay you a dollar if you read those pages now and then tell me who the wolves are. No self defense required.

The gold coin offer was better cuz inflation

Oh forgot about that one

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 5:48 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:44 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:42 pm Here's my night actions

Night 1 - Mephala - target Telvanni Wizard role - they can go to Hermaus Mora, target a player, and learn about a shrine they can/can't access
Night 2 - Clavicus - I checked Daisy's race
Night 3 - Peryite - Delayed Mac's shrine CD refresh by a day
Night 4 - Sheogorath - Received a 1-shot ability
Night 5 - Vaermina - Learned a Scotty ability
Huh

I am having an immediate negative reaction to the night one part of this claim.

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 5:48 pm**

I thought for a moment a couple hours ago that Gav/Daisy could be teammates, but recent interactions suggest that's not a thing lol

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 5:50 pm**

Vulgard wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:08 pm I have just explained the actual case on you, DaisyCloud. And I don't remember a single time I actually insulted you in this game, but that's beside the point.

I have shown already.

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 5:50 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:08 pm
DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 4:20 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 9:51 am If I’m right on Marmot which I know I am, vote Marmot.
If you think he’s town, vote me.

Simple.

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 9:53 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 9:52 am Like what am I supposed to do
Show.
Daisy.
I.
Am.
Town.

Or.

Vote.
Me.
Or.
Marmot.

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 9:54 am @Marmot
Since your scum you can show Daisy why I’m town since you know I am!

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 9:55 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 9:53 am Daisy Gav is obviously town
There, there’s the read.

However I want a full in depth analysis of me being town from @Marmot
I stated i think you are town or mafia.

I have reasons to believe you are not 3rd party.

Vulgard claims being a bus driver.

he could have messed with things and so my result on you could be wrong.

if you are town, then how is Marmot scum?

you haven't said how Marmot is scum.

and Gavial I was the only one voting you. and you actually acting like you was 1 vote away from being lynched.
Daisy we’re at the point where this is kinda beyond the pale you need to full claim

wait!! what???

why do I need to full claim???

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 5:51 pm**

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:48 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:44 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:42 pm Here's my night actions

Night 1 - Mephala - target Telvanni Wizard role - they can go to Hermaus Mora, target a player, and learn about a shrine they can/can't access
Night 2 - Clavicus - I checked Daisy's race
Night 3 - Peryite - Delayed Mac's shrine CD refresh by a day
Night 4 - Sheogorath - Received a 1-shot ability
Night 5 - Vaermina - Learned a Scotty ability
Huh
I am having an immediate negative reaction to the night one part of this claim.

I used that ability not having a clue who to target player-wise with my other abilities, and thinking I could hit the lottery and learn something neat and exciting.

Instead, I learned something that was borderline uninteresting.

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 5:53 pm**

Vulgard wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:08 pm
Vulgard wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:00 pm I'll come clean now, that post you now wrote like ~30 messages about was exaggerated on purpose so I could see how you'd react. I'm honestly not sure what I expected. You reacted similarly last time I wolfread you, except this time you didn't selfvote.

If you're a villager, I want to work with you, but you're making it difficult. And no, I'm not trying to blame you for everything that went wrong in this game. That would be messed up.

Vulgard wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:05 pm The main principles of my case against you, DaisyCloud, are that:

- You are less towny than most players in the game fmpov. TSP buried Falcon, Tim is an un-CC'd vig who shot Mac, Scotty's been towny throughout the game, Gavial's been in townmeta, and Long Con is very unlikely to be mafia if Marmot's a wolf.
- Since we're currently flipping Marmot, with the assumption he's mafia I have to look at the other players. These other players include you and MR.
- You are tied to wolf!Marmot more directly than MR is, because you voted off his wagon on day 3, when I suspect he was saved.

These are the facts that have nothing to do with your contributions to the game, other than the first point I suppose.

If Marmot isn't mafia, then I think LC's scum equity rises naturally, since I don't think the TSP/Tim/Scotty/Gavial group contains a wolf. Maybe the 3p, but not a wolf. In that world, you might be town.

There's also the world where you are 3p, but I'm not seriously considering it at the moment.

Vulgard wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:07 pm I forgot to mention Kyle. Kyle has an early vote on Falcon that looks good for him, and decent interactions with flipped wolves. I could see him being mafia, but less so than you, DaisyCloud. He also was on the Marmot wagon day 3, so in the world where Marmot is mafia, he's even less likely to be mafia.
@DaisyCloud

I am town. I'm doing my best.

work with you?

all my posts been me having to defend.

I'm making things difficult?

we all could have been scum hunting. but no let's sus daisy instead.

you did it for reactions?

that is messed up.

you made us waste time.

how r u town?

it's like u don't want me to do anything except defend.

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 5:54 pm**

@Marmot why did you refresh Mac?

what is Daisy's race

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 5:54 pm**

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:12 pm People who do big font/bold/underlined/whatever realise people's eyes just glaze over at that, right? Like I don't even pretend to read it.

okay

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 5:55 pm**

wait I misread it

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 5:56 pm**

I'm going to bed.

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine I guess.

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 5:56 pm**

Vulgard wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:13 pm
DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:11 pm
Vulgard wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 12:11 pm Assuming my Marmot analysis is correct then Daisy is the most likely partner.
omg! I am not mafia buddies with marmot!!

what is wrong with u?
I've explained why you're the most likely. You're simply more likely than anyone else. LC voted completely off wagon day 3 (which is lol if Marmot is a wolf, since Marmot almost got yeeted that day, and that's why I think LC isn't mafia in a mafia!Marmot world). Kyle voted Marmot. MR voted Marmot.

It's that simple.

it's simply wrong!

I am town. omg! I was wrong about mog being scum.

I voted wrong. but im not the only town who did.

it happens.

and im not associated with marmot because of it

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 5:56 pm**

I'm not gonna out Daisy's race without her permission, we don't know what the 3P might do with it.

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 5:56 pm**

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:48 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:44 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:42 pm Here's my night actions

Night 1 - Mephala - target Telvanni Wizard role - they can go to Hermaus Mora, target a player, and learn about a shrine they can/can't access
Night 2 - Clavicus - I checked Daisy's race
Night 3 - Peryite - Delayed Mac's shrine CD refresh by a day
Night 4 - Sheogorath - Received a 1-shot ability
Night 5 - Vaermina - Learned a Scotty ability
Huh
I am having an immediate negative reaction to the night one part of this claim.

i can confirm that that's what hermaus mora does if that's the trouble

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 5:57 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:16 pm Daisy I’ll pay you a gold coin if you take a break and then come back with the names of two wolves

You never offered me a gold coin

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 5:57 pm**

you haven't exasperated me enough yet

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 5:57 pm**

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:13 pm I refuse to accept that someone believes you 'play' Mafia by just AtE-ing the shit out of everything anyone says about them.

Like what even is that.

(Great way to avoid faking a solving mindset though.)

(/fuel on fire)

I'm not that kind of player.

what's wrong with me? you guys think this way on me.

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 5:57 pm**

don't try it though

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 5:58 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:44 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:42 pm Here's my night actions

Night 1 - Mephala - target Telvanni Wizard role - they can go to Hermaus Mora, target a player, and learn about a shrine they can/can't access
Night 2 - Clavicus - I checked Daisy's race
Night 3 - Peryite - Delayed Mac's shrine CD refresh by a day
Night 4 - Sheogorath - Received a 1-shot ability
Night 5 - Vaermina - Learned a Scotty ability
Huh

I am having an immediate negative reaction to the night one part of this claim.

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 5:58 pm**

how is it that daisy responds to all of her pings before responding to /my/ ping @DaisyCloud pls stop defending yourself or doing anything involving posts that people make about you

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 5:59 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:56 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:48 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:44 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:42 pm Here's my night actions

Night 1 - Mephala - target Telvanni Wizard role - they can go to Hermaus Mora, target a player, and learn about a shrine they can/can't access
Night 2 - Clavicus - I checked Daisy's race
Night 3 - Peryite - Delayed Mac's shrine CD refresh by a day
Night 4 - Sheogorath - Received a 1-shot ability
Night 5 - Vaermina - Learned a Scotty ability
Huh
I am having an immediate negative reaction to the night one part of this claim.
i can confirm that that's what hermaus mora does if that's the trouble

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:58 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:44 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:42 pm Here's my night actions

Night 1 - Mephala - target Telvanni Wizard role - they can go to Hermaus Mora, target a player, and learn about a shrine they can/can't access
Night 2 - Clavicus - I checked Daisy's race
Night 3 - Peryite - Delayed Mac's shrine CD refresh by a day
Night 4 - Sheogorath - Received a 1-shot ability
Night 5 - Vaermina - Learned a Scotty ability
Huh
I am having an immediate negative reaction to the night one part of this claim.

am i in like a time machine here

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 5:59 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:41 pm I have no idea what to do with gav faking having a real red check but not being able to share it which is slightly more impressive than just normal fake claiming a red check

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:43 pm
DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:42 pm whoever thinks i k kw whst is going on you are wrong
Okay that’s decent signature material

If I end up in final 3 with TSP and someone else somehow, I will snapvote the other player without thinking about it twice.

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 5:59 pm**

Tim has turned into a broken record

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 6:00 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:56 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:48 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:44 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:42 pm Here's my night actions

Night 1 - Mephala - target Telvanni Wizard role - they can go to Hermaus Mora, target a player, and learn about a shrine they can/can't access
Night 2 - Clavicus - I checked Daisy's race
Night 3 - Peryite - Delayed Mac's shrine CD refresh by a day
Night 4 - Sheogorath - Received a 1-shot ability
Night 5 - Vaermina - Learned a Scotty ability
Huh
I am having an immediate negative reaction to the night one part of this claim.
i can confirm that that's what hermaus mora does if that's the trouble

That's not what Hermaus Mora did for Kza.

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 6:01 pm**

Me: DaisyCloud is probably Marmot's partner for X X X reasons.
DaisyCloud: But I'm town! Other people have been wrong too!

I'm not ignoring the fact other people have made mistakes, but I'm pointing out the reasons I think they are town. They are alive BECAUSE they've been wrong - much like you, assuming you're a villager. I can't sus them for being alive under these circumstances. If we had a player alive who's been consistently voting wolves, I would sus them for it, but there's no such player. The closest thing is TSP, and Jack was townier than him, because he was involved in the burial of two wolves, not one. Plus, he singlehandedly made the LM yeet happen by getting us on that train.

Note that I am not sussing you for being wrong. I'm sussing you because I'm comparing the circumstances surrounding each player in this game and you don't quite hold up, sorry.

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 6:01 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:59 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:56 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:48 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:44 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:42 pm Here's my night actions

Night 1 - Mephala - target Telvanni Wizard role - they can go to Hermaus Mora, target a player, and learn about a shrine they can/can't access
Night 2 - Clavicus - I checked Daisy's race
Night 3 - Peryite - Delayed Mac's shrine CD refresh by a day
Night 4 - Sheogorath - Received a 1-shot ability
Night 5 - Vaermina - Learned a Scotty ability
Huh
I am having an immediate negative reaction to the night one part of this claim.
i can confirm that that's what hermaus mora does if that's the trouble

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:58 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:44 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:42 pm Here's my night actions

Night 1 - Mephala - target Telvanni Wizard role - they can go to Hermaus Mora, target a player, and learn about a shrine they can/can't access
Night 2 - Clavicus - I checked Daisy's race
Night 3 - Peryite - Delayed Mac's shrine CD refresh by a day
Night 4 - Sheogorath - Received a 1-shot ability
Night 5 - Vaermina - Learned a Scotty ability
Huh
I am having an immediate negative reaction to the night one part of this claim.
am i in like a time machine here

My bad...I got lost in the number of windows I had open.

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 6:02 pm**

ok raise your hand if you're the telvanni wizard and you have that ability

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 6:02 pm**

I am finally town in a game with v!TSP and he's insanely funny.

If I had a jailkeep use tonight I'd protect him.

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 6:02 pm**

I'm not the telvanni wizard but I do have that ability on my hermy

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 6:02 pm**

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 6:00 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:56 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:48 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:44 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:42 pm Here's my night actions

Night 1 - Mephala - target Telvanni Wizard role - they can go to Hermaus Mora, target a player, and learn about a shrine they can/can't access
Night 2 - Clavicus - I checked Daisy's race
Night 3 - Peryite - Delayed Mac's shrine CD refresh by a day
Night 4 - Sheogorath - Received a 1-shot ability
Night 5 - Vaermina - Learned a Scotty ability
Huh
I am having an immediate negative reaction to the night one part of this claim.
i can confirm that that's what hermaus mora does if that's the trouble
That's not what Hermaus Mora did for Kza.

Not all shrine abilities are the same player-to-player, but some appear to be.

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 6:03 pm**

I don't have access to that shrine, neither am I the Telvanni Wizard. Hardclaim.

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 6:03 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 6:02 pm ok raise your hand if you're the telvanni wizard and you have that ability

Please don't. If I am right about the 3P, which is not totally farfetched, then admitting you are a Dunmer may allow them to satisfy their wincon by killing you.

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 6:04 pm**

I'm not lying, I don't know if the right people are here to vouch for it, but that is certainly what I learned.

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 6:04 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 6:47 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 6:43 pm @Marmot are you here

if so, is there anything especially valuable you might be able to tell us D3 if you survive

and no, going to Sheogorath doesn't count

Not really. I have some utility in my role, mostly positive. I learned that a particular role has a particular ability when it visits a particular shrine last night, but I don't think it's worth sharing.

I even explained it in less detail on Day 2.

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 6:05 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 6:02 pm I'm not the telvanni wizard but I do have that ability on my hermy

Kza may have had some unique connection to Hermanous Mora.

I retract my negative reaction.

Posted: **Fri May 28, 2021 6:05 pm**

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 6:03 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 6:02 pm ok raise your hand if you're the telvanni wizard and you have that ability
Please don't. If I am right about the 3P, which is not totally farfetched, then admitting you are a Dunmer may allow them to satisfy their wincon by killing you.

raise your hand if your name is MR or Daisy or Gav and you are the telvanni wizard and have access to that Hermy

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