Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [AMERICA RISES]

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Please do not discuss phase lengths in the game thread.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Whatever. I’m Arthur of the Brotherhood of Steel. I can prove myself (somewhat) by tying a vote between myself any my target. Mafia has no vote manipulation. We can do this three times until people believe because I haven’t targeted anybody all game.

shoulda said this a few days ago :P

You can see in my iso that I was unaware that people were clearing Chop off being BoS.

[TonyStarkPrime]

technically jack's claim holds under the same principle though I certainly expect that this doesn't remain the case

[Seanzie]

technically jack's claim holds under the same principle though I certainly expect that this doesn't remain the case

What do you mean?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Whatever. I’m Arthur of the Brotherhood of Steel. I can prove myself (somewhat) by tying a vote between myself any my target. Mafia has no vote manipulation. We can do this three times until people believe because I haven’t targeted anybody all game.

You could only prove yourself if you knew your target was scum, so this is bad.

Either way, if you are telling the truth, I strongly recommend you start shooting ASAP, since your shots would only help town in this setup, and it is unclear if you'll be around for 4+ more nights.

I guess I skimmed over the “if they are part of an enemy faction” bit.

Idk if I would have used the power all that differently. Maybe memed about letting it rand a bit harder. Whatever.

I’m annoyed that it won’t clear me unless my target is a wolf tho.

[TonyStarkPrime]

well if you're town your wolf pool has to be looking pretty small

[Seanzie]

Whatever. I’m Arthur of the Brotherhood of Steel. I can prove myself (somewhat) by tying a vote between myself any my target. Mafia has no vote manipulation. We can do this three times until people believe because I haven’t targeted anybody all game.

You could only prove yourself if you knew your target was scum, so this is bad.

Either way, if you are telling the truth, I strongly recommend you start shooting ASAP, since your shots would only help town in this setup, and it is unclear if you'll be around for 4+ more nights.

I guess I skimmed over the “if they are part of an enemy faction” bit.

Idk if I would have used the power all that differently. Maybe memed about letting it rand a bit harder. Whatever.

I’m annoyed that it won’t clear me unless my target is a wolf tho.

Either way, if you are telling the truth, you should start shooting ASAP. Your ability has only positive utility for town.

[Jackofhearts2005]

technically jack's claim holds under the same principle though I certainly expect that this doesn't remain the case

Oh yeah, hey. You can’t yeet me cause I’m confirmed town or self resolving or whatever people thought about Chopchop.

rollsafe.jpg

[Jackofhearts2005]

Whatever. I’m Arthur of the Brotherhood of Steel. I can prove myself (somewhat) by tying a vote between myself any my target. Mafia has no vote manipulation. We can do this three times until people believe because I haven’t targeted anybody all game.

You could only prove yourself if you knew your target was scum, so this is bad.

Either way, if you are telling the truth, I strongly recommend you start shooting ASAP, since your shots would only help town in this setup, and it is unclear if you'll be around for 4+ more nights.

I guess I skimmed over the “if they are part of an enemy faction” bit.

Idk if I would have used the power all that differently. Maybe memed about letting it rand a bit harder. Whatever.

I’m annoyed that it won’t clear me unless my target is a wolf tho.

Either way, if you are telling the truth, you should start shooting ASAP. Your ability has only positive utility for town.

Yeah. I’ve just saved it up because the chances of a tie where I targeted goes way up as the game goes on.

[Seanzie]

technically jack's claim holds under the same principle though I certainly expect that this doesn't remain the case

Oh yeah, hey. You can’t yeet me cause I’m confirmed town or self resolving or whatever people thought about Chopchop.

rollsafe.jpg

If this is about the whole "there must be at least one BoS" thing, then uhh... no.

I do think it is relatively likely that there are two BoS though (just guessing here, but seems likely considering that their enemies are numerous and strong) so I suppose your (Jack) claim still looks okay, pending other claims.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I shoulda targeted Alison last night and insisted on a tie.

*blows raspberry*

[Jackofhearts2005]

Still not as bad as going like 4 nights without submitting a cop check.

[TonyStarkPrime]

to be fair I didn't understand it was a cop check until well after you flipped

[Jackofhearts2005]

I shoulda targeted Alison last night and insisted on a tie.

*blows raspberry*

Wait.

Let’s just yeet somebody not named Alison or Hack and do this tomorrow.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Or Jack even.

[Seanzie]

technically jack's claim holds under the same principle though I certainly expect that this doesn't remain the case

Oh yeah, hey. You can’t yeet me cause I’m confirmed town or self resolving or whatever people thought about Chopchop.

rollsafe.jpg

If this is about the whole "there must be at least one BoS" thing, then uhh... no.

I do think it is relatively likely that there are two BoS though (just guessing here, but seems likely considering that their enemies are numerous and strong) so I suppose your (Jack) claim still looks okay, pending other claims.

Ugh, but that means there are more than 2 BoS...

Can someone tell me, is NCR wiped out? I know we know VC was wiped out, are we privy to town factions being killed as well?

[TonyStarkPrime]

no, we don't know

[TonyStarkPrime]

hang on what

[Seanzie]

hang on what

what about what?

Also, even though there are people whose claims I am more curious about than yours, with fake claims order isn't super relevant. Have you claimed? if not, would you?

[Jackofhearts2005]

I am three children in a suit. That’s the confusion.

Spoiler: show

Warhammer has driven me to drink.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Trench coat style suit

[Seanzie]

I am three children in a suit. That’s the confusion.

Spoiler: show

Warhammer has driven me to drink.

Multiple users using the same account is against the rules. Someone please modkill these children.

[TonyStarkPrime]

hang on what

what about what?

Also, even though there are people whose claims I am more curious about than yours, with fake claims order isn't super relevant. Have you claimed? if not, would you?

no for a reason, but it's roughly available. I promise that my claim is not relevant (not from a low numbered group, no info, not clearable) and I'll provide it when the time is right

[Kylemii]

Still not as bad as going like 4 nights without submitting a cop check.

lol

[Seanzie]

hang on what

what about what?

Also, even though there are people whose claims I am more curious about than yours, with fake claims order isn't super relevant. Have you claimed? if not, would you?

no for a reason, but it's roughly available. I promise that my claim is not relevant (not from a low numbered group, no info, not clearable) and I'll provide it when the time is right

Do you think the time will be right in this dayphase? I'd personally like to see all claims before EoD today, and even claims that seem not relevant could be helpful. Especially if not from a low-numbered group, since every new claim within a group makes the claims in that group less likely to be true.

[Kylemii]

my role should be obvious from context by now so i'll pass on claiming i guess

[TonyStarkPrime]

hang on what

what about what?

Also, even though there are people whose claims I am more curious about than yours, with fake claims order isn't super relevant. Have you claimed? if not, would you?

no for a reason, but it's roughly available. I promise that my claim is not relevant (not from a low numbered group, no info, not clearable) and I'll provide it when the time is right

Do you think the time will be right in this dayphase? I'd personally like to see all claims before EoD today, and even claims that seem not relevant could be helpful. Especially if not from a low-numbered group, since every new claim within a group makes the claims in that group less likely to be true.

depends on how quickly certain other people show up

but

"Especially if not from a low-numbered group, since every new claim within a group makes the claims in that group less likely to be true."

is not strictly true. i mean it's slightly true but like basically not

[Jackofhearts2005]

Kyle claiming Mr Mone, probably.

[Seanzie]

my role should be obvious from context by now so i'll pass on claiming i guess

Just to be sure, you are Fawkes, right? You hooked up with Epi after Epi went through Vault 87?

[Jackofhearts2005]

If I’m the only one who claims during mass claim it’s lije that time Hank Hill mooned Ann Richards.

[Seanzie]

hang on what

what about what?

Also, even though there are people whose claims I am more curious about than yours, with fake claims order isn't super relevant. Have you claimed? if not, would you?

no for a reason, but it's roughly available. I promise that my claim is not relevant (not from a low numbered group, no info, not clearable) and I'll provide it when the time is right

Do you think the time will be right in this dayphase? I'd personally like to see all claims before EoD today, and even claims that seem not relevant could be helpful. Especially if not from a low-numbered group, since every new claim within a group makes the claims in that group less likely to be true.

depends on how quickly certain other people show up

but

"Especially if not from a low-numbered group, since every new claim within a group makes the claims in that group less likely to be true."

is not strictly true. i mean it's slightly true but like basically not

Yeah, I mean, I don't think faction numbers are a foolproof way to find suspects, but knowing them can help.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Did Seanzie claim yet?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Poisynzies

[Seanzie]

Did Seanzie claim yet?

I mean, I' haven't, but my slot has.

[Seanzie]

Did Seanzie claim yet?

I mean, I' haven't, but my slot has.

FTR I am Sheriff Marion of Redding. My slot shot KZA on N3, so I am a sheriff out of bullets...

[Kylemii]

my role should be obvious from context by now so i'll pass on claiming i guess

Just to be sure, you are Fawkes, right? You hooked up with Epi after Epi went through Vault 87?

i'm Pete Wentz from fallout boy

[Kylemii]

i'm actually the real chosen one btw

[Kylemii]

enclave knows cus they janitored epi, so there's no reason to keep the mind game up, i think

[Kylemii]

i wonder if the mafia killed epi thinking he had my role, i also wonder why they chose to janitor him

[TonyStarkPrime]

lol

[TonyStarkPrime]

So epi’s like sir galahad or something

[TonyStarkPrime]

Uh

[TonyStarkPrime]

Hmm

[TonyStarkPrime]

wait ok

[TonyStarkPrime]

unless someone wants to doubt kyle I'm good here.

[Marmot]

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Or Jack.

Also it might be a really good idea to massclaim today.

Agreed.

I am thinking for order of claims something like:

Jack, Grogu, Spirityo, Martin, TSP, Urist.

Did I miss anyone who hasn't claimed yet? People like LC and Kyle should also probably hardclaim just to make sure we are all on the same page, but that is less of a worry.

marmot's got info to claim.

Oh yes, Marmot I'd put after Grogu, before martin, interchangable with Spirityo.

No, I'm claiming my info last because I want to see claims first and whether or not they line up.

[Kylemii]

i really don't know why they'd janitor epi, what's the benefit to doing that? am i missing something

[Kylemii]

why waste a janitor on a mason lol

[TonyStarkPrime]

weird

[TonyStarkPrime]

going back to all gifs for the rest of the day. i've got two exams so won't be around much. at me if someone else scumslips