The Syndicate

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:02 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:01 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:00 pm I should've just shut up

why?

I just meant bringing up the points about chard and you. If I hadn't this chaos wouldn't have ensued

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:02 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:01 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:00 pm chard should have cared enough to be here

I dunno if that's the problem

it's a problem for him because he got yeeted.

I hope it's not a problem for the town.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:03 pm no one's claiming victory so

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:03 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:02 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:01 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:00 pm chard should have cared enough to be here

I dunno if that's the problem

it's a problem for him because he got yeeted.

I hope it's not a problem for the town.

I meant that being in thread at EOD isn't always a viable option.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:03 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:02 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:01 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:00 pm chard should have cared enough to be here

I dunno if that's the problem

it's a problem for him because he got yeeted.

I hope it's not a problem for the town.

I meant that being in thread at EOD isn't always a viable option.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:36 pm ...

I don't know if this makes me look good or bad, but good work everyone and thanks for not listening to me LC.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:37 am Reading over Tony's last posts and looking at votes... I think he still be scum.

First, the votes:

Chardonnay - 3 Voters: speedchuck, TonyStarkPrime, Long Con
TSP - 2 Voters: Marmot, chardonnay

If TSP is town, then myself or LC could have easily won if we were scum by just throwing a vote on him. We were there, and it wasn't that chaotic or one-sided.
That leaves Marmot and, of course, TSP. TSP couldn't have switched like LC and I could, or it'd be too obvious who both scum are. And Marmot stayed on TSP. Ergo, scum is between TSP and Marmot. That I'm sure of.

Then, after narrowing it down, we can look at posts. Marmot's... aren't bad. But he DID have the chance to hammer TSP, and didn't, so that's good. And his opposition to the Chard wagon even when it would be less dangerous to bus char looked pretty good. The 'Char isn't even here!' argument is almost a so-bad-it's-good sort of thing. It's too blatant to be a teammate defense, maybe. And his waffling between me and tsp looks genuinely uncertain I think.

Tony's posts look more like a built-up bus as he realized what was going on. He was quick to link me in with a Char/Speed callout (I recognize that Marmot did something similar, but given that he was completely wrong and less pushy about it it feels less calculated.) Combined with his earlier resignation and his constant pushing toward the easiest target (My relative absence from this game combined with Marmot's refusal to hammer TSP earlier makes me an EZ clap) I think pushed him over the top. Then there's the fake 'Is the game over yet?' stuff. One post of that is okay, maybe, depending. TSP posted that sentiment more than once, in an 'IDK if the game is over or not guys' kinda move.

This may be kinda obvious to everyone but obvious cases are the best kind. If anyone but TSP was the other scum, the game would be over (LC/Speed switch or marmot hammer). GG scumteam if I'm right, scum deserves the win if I'm wrong, and where tf are the bastard mechanics?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:01 am Potential for mod lies!

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:01 am Possibly bastard!

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:27 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:01 am Potential for mod lies!

The only lie:

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:01 am Possibly bastard!

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:09 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:37 am Reading over Tony's last posts and looking at votes... I think he still be scum.

First, the votes:

Chardonnay - 3 Voters: speedchuck, TonyStarkPrime, Long Con
TSP - 2 Voters: Marmot, chardonnay

If TSP is town, then myself or LC could have easily won if we were scum by just throwing a vote on him. We were there, and it wasn't that chaotic or one-sided.
That leaves Marmot and, of course, TSP. TSP couldn't have switched like LC and I could, or it'd be too obvious who both scum are. And Marmot stayed on TSP. Ergo, scum is between TSP and Marmot. That I'm sure of.

Then, after narrowing it down, we can look at posts. Marmot's... aren't bad. But he DID have the chance to hammer TSP, and didn't, so that's good. And his opposition to the Chard wagon even when it would be less dangerous to bus char looked pretty good. The 'Char isn't even here!' argument is almost a so-bad-it's-good sort of thing. It's too blatant to be a teammate defense, maybe. And his waffling between me and tsp looks genuinely uncertain I think.

Tony's posts look more like a built-up bus as he realized what was going on. He was quick to link me in with a Char/Speed callout (I recognize that Marmot did something similar, but given that he was completely wrong and less pushy about it it feels less calculated.) Combined with his earlier resignation and his constant pushing toward the easiest target (My relative absence from this game combined with Marmot's refusal to hammer TSP earlier makes me an EZ clap) I think pushed him over the top. Then there's the fake 'Is the game over yet?' stuff. One post of that is okay, maybe, depending. TSP posted that sentiment more than once, in an 'IDK if the game is over or not guys' kinda move.

This may be kinda obvious to everyone but obvious cases are the best kind. If anyone but TSP was the other scum, the game would be over (LC/Speed switch or marmot hammer). GG scumteam if I'm right, scum deserves the win if I'm wrong, and where tf are the bastard mechanics?

Solid. This is the way.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:36 pm The only person who's truly cleared in my mind is Marmot, it's easy to imagine Speed or LC missing an opportunity to win, especially given that it was 3/2 char speed and 3/2 char LC at various points in the last few minutes. Everyone who wasn't marmot had at least 2 votes on them in the last 5 minutes

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:36 pm The only person who's truly cleared in my mind is Marmot, it's easy to imagine Speed or LC missing an opportunity to win, especially given that it was 3/2 char speed and 3/2 char LC at various points in the last few minutes. Everyone who wasn't marmot had at least 2 votes on them in the last 5 minutes

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:57 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:36 pm The only person who's truly cleared in my mind is Marmot, it's easy to imagine Speed or LC missing an opportunity to win, especially given that it was 3/2 char speed and 3/2 char LC at various points in the last few minutes. Everyone who wasn't marmot had at least 2 votes on them in the last 5 minutes

I think you're exaggerating. LC and I were just hopping back and forth between you and Char, mostly. I think you got Marmot to vote me with you for a bit, and I voted LC as a one-off at some point, but that was more like last 3 hours, not last 5 minutes.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:00 pm Also, LC and chard did have a chance to last-second switch to TSP and didn't. These are arguments that they are town.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:34 pm Like examine the interactions between me and Char and try to come to that conclusion. Yes, from mechanics, it appears that Speed,LC,Marmot can't be wolves but that neglects that EOD was insane and it's possible that any of the players who made the votes that they did were unaware of other options.