The Syndicate

Wiml is pretty scummy.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:32 am

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:07 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:25 am Alexa - Just gonna yolo townread this slot for dumbfuck reasons
Alison - Is town because if she was a wolf she'd be trying to pocket me not chop me (how much does it suck being this easy to read?)
EnderWiggin - Is town because he asked me if I was a deepwolf or tinfoil town rather than telling me what I was
Esooa - Town unless the person we both decide to chop d1 flips wolf
ilario - Is a wolf
Lime Coke - is a town
Nanook - Is whatever other people say he is go fuck yourselves
TSP - He's in his useless townie meta
Transcend - Is town in any universe in which town are winning this mafia game so there's no point me making an actual read
Wiml - Is lock mafia

the wolves are ilario and wiml

I bid you all farewell.

damnn this was kind of a let down after how much you talked up ur d1 reads.

typical queenslander :P

WAit, are you also an Aussie? o.o

yeah im a sydney boy o.O

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:53 pm Alexa going out of her way to get certain people to townread her is town!Alexa fyi. Typically comes off odd in a vacuum but she's done this most games as town. Like I was fine calling her town, her recent posts are putting her in god read territory.

This is probably sheepable (if alexa's alignment is actually in doubt lol).

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:45 am Wiml is pretty scummy.

yeah

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:45 am Wiml is pretty scummy.

is this ur first game with him?

i had a slight ping with him over something minor but ill give him time to catch up first, if hes town hes good at obv-towning himself

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:11 pm i feel like the burden of having past games where people townread me off of one post for being obvious town is they've cumulated into a mass of games where people think i'm wolf for not being obvtown 3 posts into the game blah

..i really shouldn't care about how people read me and i do enjoy playing with friends regardless i just wish the expectation element could be eliminated

Yeah alexa is town.

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:48 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:45 am Wiml is pretty scummy.

is this ur first game with him?

i had a slight ping with him over something minor but ill give him time to catch up first, if hes town hes good at obv-towning himself

I'm not going to stop playing if I get pushed lol. What was the minor thing?

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:49 am

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:48 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:45 am Wiml is pretty scummy.

is this ur first game with him?

i had a slight ping with him over something minor but ill give him time to catch up first, if hes town hes good at obv-towning himself

I'm not going to stop playing if I get pushed lol. What was the minor thing?

u seemed almost like u were dreading the fact that u popped up and had a lot of content to read. normally when im town and im in a lobby that i feel is pretty strong id be pretty happy if i came back to a lot of content since i enjoy going through it as town, as opposed to coming back to like half a page. whereas when im wolf i dread coming back to a lot of content because it just means theres a shit tonne of pages i have to now pretend to fake analyse.

given that you tend to put a lot of focus into analysing posts, eg. i always see you going through past games of people, i took it that you would have a more positive reaction to coming back to the thread.

i hate catching up as either alignment

i play way better in the moment

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:39 am no one even care about my top tier dumb tell read, how sad

this is probably >rand town

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:00 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:58 am Why can't town win if Transcend is scum, Mac?

Because nobody here is going to do enough work to chop him outside of rand if I don't and I am lolcatting and openwolfing so I am not getting a n1 bullet so either you die n1 and esooa dies n2 (or vice versa) or you're both wolves and you are the only other person whomst would ergo wolf transcend has already won the game.

This makes sense in my head.

lmaoooo dawwwww

dw it makes sense in my head too

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:02 am mac is slowly becoming my top tr lol

yah it seems like all the "1p players" rolled town. i wonder if the game really is as easy as nanook + x

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:19 am

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:02 am mac is slowly becoming my top tr lol

yah it seems like all the "1p players" rolled town. i wonder if the game really is as easy as nanook + x

prolly not

but that's only because a good chunk of this game has an amazing scum range lol

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:20 am

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:19 am

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:02 am mac is slowly becoming my top tr lol

yah it seems like all the "1p players" rolled town. i wonder if the game really is as easy as nanook + x

prolly not

but that's only because a good chunk of this game has an amazing scum range lol

such as?

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:20 am

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:19 am

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:02 am mac is slowly becoming my top tr lol

yah it seems like all the "1p players" rolled town. i wonder if the game really is as easy as nanook + x

prolly not

but that's only because a good chunk of this game has an amazing scum range lol

yeah usually when the game feels super easy it tends to imply the actual opposite but a man can dream lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:23 am

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:20 am

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:19 am

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:02 am mac is slowly becoming my top tr lol

yah it seems like all the "1p players" rolled town. i wonder if the game really is as easy as nanook + x

prolly not

but that's only because a good chunk of this game has an amazing scum range lol

such as?

me
ilario
alexa
lime coke
esooa
alison
probably u

as for the rest of the players i don't know what they are or aren't capable of

and i haven't played with some of those players as scum in a forum setting but i have specced games where they are scum and seen them endgame

POST 200

PERFECT POINT TO VANISH FROM THE THREAD

VOTE ME OUT IF I MAKE ANOTHER POST FROM NOW UNTIL LIKE IDK 8 HOURS FROM NOW

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:48 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:45 am Wiml is pretty scummy.

is this ur first game with him?

i had a slight ping with him over something minor but ill give him time to catch up first, if hes town hes good at obv-towning himself

His catchup felt like he was holding back and a little nervous, which I'd expect him to be if he rolled wolf in this playerlist. He also shrank away from taking firm stances; I think the strongest read he had was that Transcend seemed excited to play and that was townie. Which is a pretty meh read.

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:19 am

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:02 am mac is slowly becoming my top tr lol

yah it seems like all the "1p players" rolled town. i wonder if the game really is as easy as nanook + x

Why is Mac town?

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:27 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:23 am

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:20 am

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:19 am

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:02 am mac is slowly becoming my top tr lol

yah it seems like all the "1p players" rolled town. i wonder if the game really is as easy as nanook + x

prolly not

but that's only because a good chunk of this game has an amazing scum range lol

such as?

me
ilario
alexa
lime coke
esooa
alison
probably u

as for the rest of the players i don't know what they are or aren't capable of

You think LC has an amazing scum range?

oh it’s a different LC

Well that’s half my analysis down the drain

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:54 am

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:49 am

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:48 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:45 am Wiml is pretty scummy.

is this ur first game with him?

i had a slight ping with him over something minor but ill give him time to catch up first, if hes town hes good at obv-towning himself

I'm not going to stop playing if I get pushed lol. What was the minor thing?

u seemed almost like u were dreading the fact that u popped up and had a lot of content to read. normally when im town and im in a lobby that i feel is pretty strong id be pretty happy if i came back to a lot of content since i enjoy going through it as town, as opposed to coming back to like half a page. whereas when im wolf i dread coming back to a lot of content because it just means theres a shit tonne of pages i have to now pretend to fake analyse.

given that you tend to put a lot of focus into analysing posts, eg. i always see you going through past games of people, i took it that you would have a more positive reaction to coming back to the thread.

Not really. I mean I wasn't expecting to come back to see people making 180 posts while I swept in what I assumed was going to be a light game (that was super dead while I was awake) but I don't *really* care it was just funny to be snarky.

Fwiw I've had a string of wolf games ruined by inactivity recently (town being so inactive that they became incredibly easy to sweep lol) so I feel the opposite way to you about activity here tbh.

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:55 am i hate catching up as either alignment

i play way better in the moment

Actually I enjoy catching up a fair bit, it's just also a lot of work.

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:19 am

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:54 am

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:49 am

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:48 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:45 am Wiml is pretty scummy.

is this ur first game with him?

i had a slight ping with him over something minor but ill give him time to catch up first, if hes town hes good at obv-towning himself

I'm not going to stop playing if I get pushed lol. What was the minor thing?

u seemed almost like u were dreading the fact that u popped up and had a lot of content to read. normally when im town and im in a lobby that i feel is pretty strong id be pretty happy if i came back to a lot of content since i enjoy going through it as town, as opposed to coming back to like half a page. whereas when im wolf i dread coming back to a lot of content because it just means theres a shit tonne of pages i have to now pretend to fake analyse.

given that you tend to put a lot of focus into analysing posts, eg. i always see you going through past games of people, i took it that you would have a more positive reaction to coming back to the thread.

Not really. I mean I wasn't expecting to come back to see people making 180 posts while I swept in what I assumed was going to be a light game (that was super dead while I was awake) but I don't *really* care it was just funny to be snarky.

Fwiw I've had a string of wolf games ruined by inactivity recently (town being so inactive that they became incredibly easy to sweep lol) so I feel the opposite way to you about activity here tbh.

did u just slip lol

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:53 am

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:48 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:45 am Wiml is pretty scummy.

is this ur first game with him?

i had a slight ping with him over something minor but ill give him time to catch up first, if hes town hes good at obv-towning himself

His catchup felt like he was holding back and a little nervous, which I'd expect him to be if he rolled wolf in this playerlist. He also shrank away from taking firm stances; I think the strongest read he had was that Transcend seemed excited to play and that was townie. Which is a pretty meh read.

This is false. I've read up to page 3 of the thread and I've externalised exactly two reads: Transcend being town from his entrance (one reason for that is what I mentioned to illario because it was relevant to the conversion from his entrance) and alexa being town as well. Those are literally the only stances I've made so saying I've shrank away from making firms ones is incredibly disingenuous.

Saying I'm nervous is also just blatantly untrue and I'm interested in hearing how you could get that impression from my posts?

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:19 am

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:02 am mac is slowly becoming my top tr lol

yah it seems like all the "1p players" rolled town. i wonder if the game really is as easy as nanook + x

Dumb question but what is 1p?

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:22 am

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:19 am

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:54 am

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:49 am

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:48 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:45 am Wiml is pretty scummy.

is this ur first game with him?

i had a slight ping with him over something minor but ill give him time to catch up first, if hes town hes good at obv-towning himself

I'm not going to stop playing if I get pushed lol. What was the minor thing?

u seemed almost like u were dreading the fact that u popped up and had a lot of content to read. normally when im town and im in a lobby that i feel is pretty strong id be pretty happy if i came back to a lot of content since i enjoy going through it as town, as opposed to coming back to like half a page. whereas when im wolf i dread coming back to a lot of content because it just means theres a shit tonne of pages i have to now pretend to fake analyse.

given that you tend to put a lot of focus into analysing posts, eg. i always see you going through past games of people, i took it that you would have a more positive reaction to coming back to the thread.

Not really. I mean I wasn't expecting to come back to see people making 180 posts while I swept in what I assumed was going to be a light game (that was super dead while I was awake) but I don't *really* care it was just funny to be snarky.

Fwiw I've had a string of wolf games ruined by inactivity recently (town being so inactive that they became incredibly easy to sweep lol) so I feel the opposite way to you about activity here tbh.

did u just slip lol

No?

illario is town

do you know why I asked

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:37 am do you know why I asked

I'm not seeing it?

"Fwiw I've had a string of wolf games ruined by inactivity recently (town being so inactive that they became incredibly easy to sweep lol) so I feel the opposite way to you about activity here tbh."

this just feels like you're looking at it from a wolf pov

"so I feel" rather than I would feel

"string of wolf games ruined by inactivity" but not necessarily town games so.. Why would you want there to be activity using this unless wolfing again

etc

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:28 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:53 am

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:48 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:45 am Wiml is pretty scummy.

is this ur first game with him?

i had a slight ping with him over something minor but ill give him time to catch up first, if hes town hes good at obv-towning himself

His catchup felt like he was holding back and a little nervous, which I'd expect him to be if he rolled wolf in this playerlist. He also shrank away from taking firm stances; I think the strongest read he had was that Transcend seemed excited to play and that was townie. Which is a pretty meh read.

This is false. I've read up to page 3 of the thread and I've externalised exactly two reads: Transcend being town from his entrance (one reason for that is what I mentioned to illario because it was relevant to the conversion from his entrance) and alexa being town as well. Those are literally the only stances I've made so saying I've shrank away from making firms ones is incredibly disingenuous.

Saying I'm nervous is also just blatantly untrue and I'm interested in hearing how you could get that impression from my posts?

You're doing a lot of commenting on things without giving opinions on them and that concerns me. My read that you're nervous extends from that: it's like you're afraid to put yourself out there. Like, using the post I'm responding to as an example, you're using a lot of language that seems to point towards me being scum: "this is false", "incredibly disingenuous", "blatantly untrue". But you're not actually voting me or pushing on me. There's a hesitation there.

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:36 amillario is town

Tell me more about this read.

pressure wiml for his entrance time of day hell yeah

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:42 am pressure wiml for his entrance time of day hell yeah

I have no idea what this means.

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:40 am "Fwiw I've had a string of wolf games ruined by inactivity recently (town being so inactive that they became incredibly easy to sweep lol) so I feel the opposite way to you about activity here tbh."

this just feels like you're looking at it from a wolf pov

"so I feel" rather than I would feel

"string of wolf games ruined by inactivity" but not necessarily town games so.. Why would you want there to be activity using this unless wolfing again

etc

Are you serious? Obviously I'm referring in present tense because yes my stance is "when I'm a wolf I prefer high activity" is my actual philosophy and it's even more apparent because we've literally had this conversation out of game and that's why I had no idea where you thought I'd scumslipped lol.

My philosophy towards what I enjoy when I rand wolf obviously doesn't change based on my alignment.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:43 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:42 am pressure wiml for his entrance time of day hell yeah

I have no idea what this means.

he says he generally has an awkward entrance every game which is reasonably true so I think it's funny he did again and is getting pressured for it

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:45 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:40 am "Fwiw I've had a string of wolf games ruined by inactivity recently (town being so inactive that they became incredibly easy to sweep lol) so I feel the opposite way to you about activity here tbh."

this just feels like you're looking at it from a wolf pov

"so I feel" rather than I would feel

"string of wolf games ruined by inactivity" but not necessarily town games so.. Why would you want there to be activity using this unless wolfing again

etc

Are you serious? Obviously I'm referring in present tense because yes my stance is "when I'm a wolf I prefer high activity" is my actual philosophy and it's even more apparent because we've literally had this conversation out of game and that's why I had no idea where you thought I'd scumslipped lol.

My philosophy towards what I enjoy when I rand wolf obviously doesn't change based on my alignment.

kinda

not super serious

again just pointing out the wording of "I feel the opposite here" comes directly from a scum pov as opposed to a philosophy which would go "I would feel the opposite" etc

I don't put much weight into slips though but it caught my eye so I mentioned it

honestly I don't think it's actually wolf indicative I just wanted to see your response

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:53 am

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:19 am

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:02 am mac is slowly becoming my top tr lol

yah it seems like all the "1p players" rolled town. i wonder if the game really is as easy as nanook + x

Why is Mac town?

His quote about him playing like a nutcase so he doesn’t get n1d. That in itself isn’t a thought that’s hard to fake but then he carries on that thought by mentioning something about u and esooa dieing n1/n2 which made me feel like it was a real thought that came about and not just something as simple as “hurrr watch me get nightkilled lols”

It’s a progression I’m pretty sure I’ve said a bunch as town but never once thought to fake as scum, since most people find that kinda stuff NAI anyways so I wouldn’t ever bother faking that.

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:29 am

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:19 am

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:02 am mac is slowly becoming my top tr lol

yah it seems like all the "1p players" rolled town. i wonder if the game really is as easy as nanook + x

Dumb question but what is 1p?

It’s what they call ego players over here

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:41 am

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:28 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:53 am

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:48 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:45 am Wiml is pretty scummy.

is this ur first game with him?

i had a slight ping with him over something minor but ill give him time to catch up first, if hes town hes good at obv-towning himself

His catchup felt like he was holding back and a little nervous, which I'd expect him to be if he rolled wolf in this playerlist. He also shrank away from taking firm stances; I think the strongest read he had was that Transcend seemed excited to play and that was townie. Which is a pretty meh read.

This is false. I've read up to page 3 of the thread and I've externalised exactly two reads: Transcend being town from his entrance (one reason for that is what I mentioned to illario because it was relevant to the conversion from his entrance) and alexa being town as well. Those are literally the only stances I've made so saying I've shrank away from making firms ones is incredibly disingenuous.

Saying I'm nervous is also just blatantly untrue and I'm interested in hearing how you could get that impression from my posts?

You're doing a lot of commenting on things without giving opinions on them and that concerns me. My read that you're nervous extends from that: it's like you're afraid to put yourself out there. Like, using the post I'm responding to as an example, you're using a lot of language that seems to point towards me being scum: "this is false", "incredibly disingenuous", "blatantly untrue". But you're not actually voting me or pushing on me. There's a hesitation there.

Yeah I have like no reads right now and I'm not planning on accomishing a lot early on into this phase either tbh.

As for why I'm not pushing you, it's because I was waiting for your response, mostly because I wanted to see if you anchored your read or not after I aggressively shot it down. I'll probably continue this train of thought now once I'm actually caught up bec

Oops I posted too early lol

I was just going to say I'm not going to make any more big walls until I've actually read the game lol.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:42 am

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:36 amillario is town

Tell me more about this read.

I'm not going to call it a godread because it's slightly less confident than that but I he's generally a really easy player to find as town from meta. The only player in this game probably better at reading him than me is alexa.

But one thing in particular that I can actually explain here is illario's approach to scumreads, specifically his mild scumread on me. I'll explain in more detail later if necessary but he has this thing as town where he doesn't like outing scumreads unless he's pushing them really hard because he's paranoid about how people will react to them (which is why I had to respond to him earlier to tell him to out his read on me) which I don't think he is self aware enough of / capable / willing to replicate as a wolf.

Also weak reason but he probably just doesn't lightly scumread me at all if he's actually a wolf. He knows he has to kill me lol.

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:45 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:43 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:42 am pressure wiml for his entrance time of day hell yeah

I have no idea what this means.

he says he generally has an awkward entrance every game which is reasonably true so I think it's funny he did again and is getting pressured for it

I knew it lol.

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:53 am honestly I don't think it's actually wolf indicative I just wanted to see your response

Did you get anything meaningful from that or were you just bullying me?