The Syndicate

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:57 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:02 pm Next person to post an honest read that I haven't already seen gets a cookie.

Three hundred and sixty three new posts??

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:57 pm**

Why are yall voting for 7up?

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:59 pm**

Let me guess, without reading, princess Abigail has used ATE to get yall to move off her?

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:59 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:56 pm My Prime Minister just broke up with his wife...that's never happened before in my lifetime

thats nothing we had a president put cigars in very strange places

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:01 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:06 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:04 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:03 pm Why do you always have five spaces between two lines?
The world may never know.

Honestly, it's a mystery even to me

OK, I think I cracked this nut @Epignosis @Kate

I likely have one of the lowest word count per post/game in TS

I believe putting extra space between the sentences is my version of Big Truck syndrome, except it relates to my word count instead of my phallus

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:03 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:01 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:06 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:04 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:03 pm Why do you always have five spaces between two lines?
The world may never know.

Honestly, it's a mystery even to me

OK, I think I cracked this nut @Epignosis @Kate

I likely have one of the lowest word count per post/game in TS

I believe putting extra space between the sentences is my version of Big Truck syndrome, except it relates to my word count instead of my phallus

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:04 pm**

Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:59 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:56 pm My Prime Minister just broke up with his wife...that's never happened before in my lifetime
thats nothing we had a president put cigars in very strange places

Honestly, the quality of his politics aside, he was one of the funniest President's of All Time, and most of it wasn't even deliberate. Absolute comedy gold

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:06 pm**

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:57 pm Why are yall voting for 7up?

Talk to me about what you find in his ISO

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:15 pm**

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:59 pm Let me guess, without reading, princess Abigail has used ATE to get yall to move off her?

No.

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:15 pm**

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:57 pm Why are yall voting for 7up?

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:59 pm Let me guess, without reading, princess Abigail has used ATE to get yall to move off her?

There's a bunch of cases on him but Lime got moderately pushed for being wolfy and then seems to have lost all motivation and stopped posting in a way that seems kind of outing for him.

He's only posted once since early in the cycle and that was to post a non-game-related meme before dipping.

Lots more context but you'll see it when you catch up.

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:18 pm**

@Lime Coke if you come back I'm very happy to try working with you.

Just please don't wait until right at EoD to show up if you're town.

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:21 pm**

I'm very much not expecting Lime to be a villager at this point but I want to make absolutely sure to give him every opportunity to prove me wrong if he's town.

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:26 pm**

If Lime flips wolf then I'm expecting a comfortable game for us.

My biggest concerns are just some absolute hellworld where Lime gave up and started lolcatting as a villager for some reason??? But I'm really struggling to see him not even weakly try to solve or do something game related on his re-entry if he actually was a villager.

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:28 pm**

While not a full wolf streak, I know that Lime's had a couple of other wolf games in the last few weeks so he might just be feeling burned out from those as well.

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:28 pm**

I’ve seen Lime Coke receive suspicion as town on a number of occasions, and this was never the result in the past. He has usually continued playing, either giving faith that folks would come around or developing his own reads.

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:34 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:06 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:57 pm Why are yall voting for 7up?

Talk to me about what you find in his ISO

Carbonation, sugar and artificial flavorings.

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:35 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:28 pm I’ve seen Lime Coke receive suspicion as town on a number of occasions, and this was never the result in the past. He has usually continued playing, either giving faith that folks would come around or developing his own reads.

Thanks. I'm glad this lines up with your experiences with him as well.

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:37 pm**

JJJ are you still at a similar spot with your PoE as before?

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:38 pm**

I just played 2 games with him.

1. Bad. Was quiet and evasive, but popping in and out and still personable.

2. Good. More involved in solving. Much more. Still personable.

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:42 pm**

Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:37 pm JJJ are you still at a similar spot with your PoE as before?

I believe so. The new material in the thread hasn’t moved the needle.

This time can be Kate’s Big Break though. Can Kate Take the Cake? Does Kate Wear a Cape? I am tuned in.

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:45 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:42 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:37 pm JJJ are you still at a similar spot with your PoE as before?
I believe so. The new material in the thread hasn’t moved the needle.

This time can be Kate’s Big Break though. Can Kate Take the Cake? Does Kate Wear a Cape? I am tuned in.

Yeah, I'm very interested in what Kate has to say once she's caught up.

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:47 pm**

I'd like to offer a 3rd wagon. [VOTE: Quin] aubergine

Homie was like,

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 5:37 am A lynch between Abigail and LC could tell me a lot.

Then was like,

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:44 am Abigail has earned a Day 2 and I Do Not See It for LC.

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

I'll try put it into words if I have time. It's just a suspicion that is There.

and I tried to poke the suspicion out,

and I got nothing.

Dude don't even mention me before dis.

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:50 pm**

I reached a moment when I really need the flip of one of the 2 wagons.

Idk if I posted, Quin gave me the impression of villagery intent, so I will add him to my villagers.

I hoped Brad can pop up and say useful things for the game. Didn't happen, so wolf equity is increasing.

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:52 pm**

Aye, and I'm still good with either Brad or Abigail rn. Will put in some time now to deliberate between the two.

I offered Quin in thinking they were the most eager to grab the lowest hanging fruit, and am curious as to if anyone agrees.

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:54 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:52 pm Aye, and I'm still good with either Brad or Abigail rn. Will put in some time now to deliberate between the two.

I offered Quin in thinking they were the most eager to grab the lowest hanging fruit, and am curious as to if anyone agrees.

I don’t really see it that way. He should reply though, if it’s possible in his time zone before day ends in three hours.

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:56 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:54 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:52 pm Aye, and I'm still good with either Brad or Abigail rn. Will put in some time now to deliberate between the two.

I offered Quin in thinking they were the most eager to grab the lowest hanging fruit, and am curious as to if anyone agrees.
I don’t really see it that way. He should reply though, if it’s possible in his time zone before day ends in three hours.

what way do you see it then? Did you see insight as to where Quin found the low poster wolf in me?

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:56 pm**

Sorry yesterday was busy as hell for me and today relatively the same.

Granted I knew about today, yesterday's wasn't expected.

Anyways....

I'm way far behind so my reads have been messed up.

I see that Wiml at least is giving me a chance so I'll lean town there.

Idk who else I'm completely lost.

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:59 pm**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:56 pm Sorry yesterday was busy as hell for me and today relatively the same.

Granted I knew about today, yesterday's wasn't expected.

Anyways....

I'm way far behind so my reads have been messed up.

I see that Wiml at least is giving me a chance so I'll lean town there.

Idk who else I'm completely lost.

my ISO is short, read me and tell me what you think.

spoiler,

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:00 pm**

Also Falc's ISO is short, maybe respond there?

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:00 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:56 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:54 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:52 pm Aye, and I'm still good with either Brad or Abigail rn. Will put in some time now to deliberate between the two.

I offered Quin in thinking they were the most eager to grab the lowest hanging fruit, and am curious as to if anyone agrees.
I don’t really see it that way. He should reply though, if it’s possible in his time zone before day ends in three hours.
what way do you see it then? Did you see insight as to where Quin found the low poster wolf in me?

I don’t know why he suspects you, no, and that is something he needs to clear up. So your beef is understandable.

It doesn’t strike me as a generic “LHF” move though. If Quin is mafia then at least one of the bigger wagons is town. They could be called LHF in their own right. I don’t care for vanity votes in general, so regardless of whether his vote for you qualifies as LHF, I’d say it’s less than his best moment.

Gun to my head he felt a bit contrarian.

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:09 pm**

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:12 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:06 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 5:37 am Jay, I think the way she is self content for posting town reads and tries to present herself as solvy is not towny

It was implied when i said mafia prefer to post town reads to not argue with the townies they are pushing that she is mafia for doing that.

If you noticed she didn't say I am a wolf for suspecting her, she said I played wolfy or something.
Again I can prove that this is how I play the game AS TOWN if you would like
Look, the way you tell me I saw you playing has the reverse. You saw me playing as well. You saw me being right and also wrong.
You know my play is unusual and my suspicions are often poor explained (coming from weak english skills), but also I always push what I consider wolfy behaviour. You can't just say I have bad faith in my push when I talk about it since so long.

I asked you questions. I waited for answers but I didn't receive things who could show me you have genuine thoughts regarding your suspicion on me. The fact you don't make scum cases in general has little importance for me.

You want me to believe you because you say so.
Sorry, I can't.
Yes, my vote is on you regardless the fact you posted because you don't gave me a reason to change my mind and I explained why.

We seem to talk past each other but I am sure I answered at your posts while you mostly AtEd and provided self meta.

If you are town, you have to show it in other way than self voting when the wagons are tied.

Self voting is bad regardless alignament.

The first condition for town is to find scum, not to suicide to prove wrong some people.
The second is to show themselves towny in thoughts and behaviour.
If a townie fails in these both aspects that doesn't mean their life is meaningless and they should die.
A game is won by town by teamwork more than by individual performance. And another force of town is in numbers. Keep town number respecting your own TMI on your alignment even if no one believes you and self press because you never know for sure the alignment of your cw.

If you are town, make me see it.

I disagree with a lot of your method.

The first priority for me as town is to find town
Than I want to get the rest of town to see what I see so that my town reads are safe
Than I want town to find me if they can.
If they can't I will willingly sacrifice myself if I have provided town with a winning town core than I've still done my job
Often town performance is better when I commit die.

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:09 pm**

[VOTE: Wiml] aubergine

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:10 pm**

Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:29 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:05 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:28 pm @☆Princess Abigail☆

Would you agree that, even if the "first three-vote wagon contains one mafioso in four names" theory is consistently accurate, that you fundamentally break it by causing the wagon to reach three votes yourself?
Yes though I've done it before. It generates content. Readable content and while I've not tracked the success of forcing the read and can't remember if it worked or not I do think there's validity in that it forced his readable content out of Michelle You Roxy...

How was readable content forced out of me. Genuinely curious.

Bc I thought I was posting when I could. At work before meeting and before I turned into a YaYa. But if content was being forced from me I would like for you to explain gently to me how it happened.

I'm pretty sure I did explain this

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:10 pm**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:56 pm Sorry yesterday was busy as hell for me and today relatively the same.

Granted I knew about today, yesterday's wasn't expected.

Anyways....

I'm way far behind so my reads have been messed up.

I see that Wiml at least is giving me a chance so I'll lean town there.

Idk who else I'm completely lost.

Hi Brad, do you have an idea of how much you'll be able to read before EoD?

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:10 pm**

Game is stagnated

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:11 pm**

Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:04 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:14 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 5:53 am I think everyone that hasn't already should share their new impressions of Quin.
I liked their early approach to me think their reason for abandoning the read was valid even if wrong from their pov.

They can go in the town core

JJJ
Wilgy
Wiml
Falcon
Quin
+1

Roxy is a lean town.
holy shit this is a first for us. Thank you for this. <3

Yup

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:11 pm**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:09 pm [VOTE: Wiml] aubergine

What caused the 180?

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:13 pm**

Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:27 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:48 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:00 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:17 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:22 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:19 pm Is cheesecake a pie or cake?
Worse than both
Scum just for this post
Cheesecake, Pie, Cake, Soup. Long ago, the four nations lived together in harmony. Then, everything changed when the Pie Nation attacked. Only the Abigail, master of all four elements, could stop them, but when the world needed them most, they vanished.
I'm here to kill cake and soup

The others can stay
you are dead to me now

Soz cake sucks unless it's of the ice cream or cheese variety

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:14 pm**

I watch. I wait. I nibble a snack.

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:14 pm**

I... sincerely hope that Lime Coke isn't town.

Will wait for his catch up.

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:16 pm**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:09 pm [VOTE: Wiml] aubergine

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:18 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:39 pm I came across that reading your ISO Neon, but perhaps for the sake of brevity, could you talk to me about your read on Kate?

It's not a great read but Kate knows me possibly as good or better than anyone in this game and generally has a good track record of reading me town including finding me like immediately just last game so her complete flop on reading me correctly and the lack of conviction and the lack of content and the lack of being a loud voice for town. It's concerning.

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:19 pm**

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:59 pm Let me guess, without reading, princess Abigail has used ATE to get yall to move off her?

Unnecessary shade for a wagon still sitting in self pres range without reading the game noted

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:19 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:00 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:56 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:54 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:52 pm Aye, and I'm still good with either Brad or Abigail rn. Will put in some time now to deliberate between the two.

I offered Quin in thinking they were the most eager to grab the lowest hanging fruit, and am curious as to if anyone agrees.
I don’t really see it that way. He should reply though, if it’s possible in his time zone before day ends in three hours.
what way do you see it then? Did you see insight as to where Quin found the low poster wolf in me?
I don’t know why he suspects you, no, and that is something he needs to clear up. So your beef is understandable.

It doesn’t strike me as a generic “LHF” move though. If Quin is mafia then at least one of the bigger wagons is town. They could be called LHF in their own right. I don’t care for vanity votes in general, so regardless of whether his vote for you qualifies as LHF, I’d say it’s less than his best moment.

Gun to my head he felt a bit contrarian.

Aye contrarian feels correct, but the vote on me feels very no consequence in nature based on who it was on.

I don't see what is LHF as wagon deterministic. Like, if this is town Abigail, I'd not say that it's an LHF wagon (maybe Brad would be).

LHF results in no consequence for the voter because of the perception of no net T loss in effort/energy as a result of that vote.

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:22 pm**

I certainly agree that his vote is of no consequence. I award no credit for that.

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:29 pm**

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:28 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:49 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:47 pm Michelle
Voters: ☆Princess Abigail☆, falcon45ca, Wiml

One of these 4 names is a wolf. Spoiler. It's not me.
I’m considering a Michelle/Wiml “difference check”. That term is too strong for where I stand, but some softer version of that.
I think it could be. I know I'm town.

I don't agree with locking falcon town for such weak reasons but I am town leaning falcon.

So to me it's always Michelle or Wiml

This exchange is fascinating.

Is the dif between Wiml/Michelle solely because we hit a 4 player involved wagon early? I love these observations and calls, but have also found that being on them while making said call allows me to manipulate them as wolf.

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:33 pm**

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 3:44 am VC
Spoiler: show
Squash your first bug!
Poll runs till Thu Aug 03, 2023 12:00 am
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option

☆Princess Abigail☆
3
25%
Voters: Epignosis, Michelle, Kate
Epignosis
2
17%
Voters: falcon45ca, ☆Princess Abigail☆
falcon45ca
1
8%
Voters: Lime Coke
Lime Coke
3
25%
Voters: Wiml, JaggedJimmyJay, DrWilgy

Do these rules apply here as well?

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:34 pm**

Oh. Ew, gross. The color is pain.

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:34 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:33 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 3:44 am VC
Spoiler: show
Squash your first bug!
Poll runs till Thu Aug 03, 2023 12:00 am
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option

☆Princess Abigail☆
3
25%
Voters: Epignosis, Michelle, Kate
Epignosis
2
17%
Voters: falcon45ca, ☆Princess Abigail☆
falcon45ca
1
8%
Voters: Lime Coke
Lime Coke
3
25%
Voters: Wiml, JaggedJimmyJay, DrWilgy

Do these rules apply here as well?

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:40 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:34 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:33 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 3:44 am VC
Spoiler: show
Squash your first bug!
Poll runs till Thu Aug 03, 2023 12:00 am
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option

☆Princess Abigail☆
3
25%
Voters: Epignosis, Michelle, Kate
Epignosis
2
17%
Voters: falcon45ca, ☆Princess Abigail☆
falcon45ca
1
8%
Voters: Lime Coke
Lime Coke
3
25%
Voters: Wiml, JaggedJimmyJay, DrWilgy

Do these rules apply here as well?

No. It's specifically the first wagon to reach 3.

The Syndicate

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