Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 1)
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 8:39 pm
Is Kirbnosis drinking beer right now?DharmaHelper wrote:Any time Epi gets into it with someone who isn't me, I have a good time.
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Is Kirbnosis drinking beer right now?DharmaHelper wrote:Any time Epi gets into it with someone who isn't me, I have a good time.
In the words of a wise ass man, signs point to yes.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Is Kirbnosis drinking beer right now?DharmaHelper wrote:Any time Epi gets into it with someone who isn't me, I have a good time.
Golden claims to have a pact with this wise ass man.DharmaHelper wrote:In the words of a wise ass man, signs point to yes.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Is Kirbnosis drinking beer right now?DharmaHelper wrote:Any time Epi gets into it with someone who isn't me, I have a good time.
I did not suspect you at all until this. It's as if you are saying--last time I had back and forth I was good, therefore, duh, I'm good. It doesn't work that way. And, claiming good seems disingenuous, unless you're role claiming, since 28 out of 36 players are neutral, and only 4 players are civ--I don't think you're actually claiming one of those roles. But I do think you might be one of the foul four.Golden wrote: linkie to everyone enjoying epi vs golden. Last time it happened, I was good and epi was bad. Then I get into it with LC. LC is bad, golden is good. When people get into it like this with me, anyone who still is pretending to genuinely believe they think I'm bad is worth lynching imo. Epi knows full well he is wrong. He is enjoying it as much as you.
I will not vote for LoRab today.LoRab wrote:Can we make semantic salmon a color? How about WIFOM wine? We can make colors for all of the things!!
I did not suspect you at all until this. It's as if you are saying--last time I had back and forth I was good, therefore, duh, I'm good. It doesn't work that way. And, claiming good seems disingenuous, unless you're role claiming, since 28 out of 36 players are neutral, and only 4 players are civ--I don't think you're actually claiming one of those roles. But I do think you might be one of the foul four.Golden wrote: linkie to everyone enjoying epi vs golden. Last time it happened, I was good and epi was bad. Then I get into it with LC. LC is bad, golden is good. When people get into it like this with me, anyone who still is pretending to genuinely believe they think I'm bad is worth lynching imo. Epi knows full well he is wrong. He is enjoying it as much as you.
Especially with the: anyone that suspects me must be eevul.
Well in fairness the poll doesn't close today.Metalmarsh89 wrote:I will not vote for LoRab today.LoRab wrote:Can we make semantic salmon a color? How about WIFOM wine? We can make colors for all of the things!!
I did not suspect you at all until this. It's as if you are saying--last time I had back and forth I was good, therefore, duh, I'm good. It doesn't work that way. And, claiming good seems disingenuous, unless you're role claiming, since 28 out of 36 players are neutral, and only 4 players are civ--I don't think you're actually claiming one of those roles. But I do think you might be one of the foul four.Golden wrote: linkie to everyone enjoying epi vs golden. Last time it happened, I was good and epi was bad. Then I get into it with LC. LC is bad, golden is good. When people get into it like this with me, anyone who still is pretending to genuinely believe they think I'm bad is worth lynching imo. Epi knows full well he is wrong. He is enjoying it as much as you.
Especially with the: anyone that suspects me must be eevul.
Lorab, I just don't give a shit at some point.LoRab wrote:Can we make semantic salmon a color? How about WIFOM wine? We can make colors for all of the things!!
I did not suspect you at all until this. It's as if you are saying--last time I had back and forth I was good, therefore, duh, I'm good. It doesn't work that way. And, claiming good seems disingenuous, unless you're role claiming, since 28 out of 36 players are neutral, and only 4 players are civ--I don't think you're actually claiming one of those roles. But I do think you might be one of the foul four.Golden wrote: linkie to everyone enjoying epi vs golden. Last time it happened, I was good and epi was bad. Then I get into it with LC. LC is bad, golden is good. When people get into it like this with me, anyone who still is pretending to genuinely believe they think I'm bad is worth lynching imo. Epi knows full well he is wrong. He is enjoying it as much as you.
Especially with the: anyone that suspects me must be eevul.
Golden wrote:Lorab, I just don't give a shit at some point.LoRab wrote:Can we make semantic salmon a color? How about WIFOM wine? We can make colors for all of the things!!
I did not suspect you at all until this. It's as if you are saying--last time I had back and forth I was good, therefore, duh, I'm good. It doesn't work that way. And, claiming good seems disingenuous, unless you're role claiming, since 28 out of 36 players are neutral, and only 4 players are civ--I don't think you're actually claiming one of those roles. But I do think you might be one of the foul four.Golden wrote: linkie to everyone enjoying epi vs golden. Last time it happened, I was good and epi was bad. Then I get into it with LC. LC is bad, golden is good. When people get into it like this with me, anyone who still is pretending to genuinely believe they think I'm bad is worth lynching imo. Epi knows full well he is wrong. He is enjoying it as much as you.
Especially with the: anyone that suspects me must be eevul.
I want epi dead and god help me if I fall into a kill thats where I'm using it.
I don't like people who use lies to suspect me. I'm fine with those who will suspect me based on truthful interpretations.
I gave epi lots of chances to read back and see that he was wrong about his own factual statements. He wilfully chose to ignore them. He still claims his version of events is true. Anyone is free to read and see that what I have said is objectively true and what he has said is objectively, patently, false. I just don't think anyone should have to put up with constantly defending themselves against made up bullshit.
Right? It is quite literally impossible for me to catch up at this point. So I'm going to try my best just to stay current and relevant.birdwithteeth11 wrote:What did SVS say about Day 1's being clusterfucks again?Ricochet wrote:Oh great, now I have to open a separate sheet for the players you intend not to vote.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Now there's a thought. I will not be voting for S~V~S today.S~V~S wrote:Are you only going to vote for a transparent person?Metalmarsh89 wrote:If I was a recruiter, I would self-recruit every night.
Why do you all love being so... transparent.
I've already ruled MP out though.
How do you know that?Golden wrote:MM is voting for me, dontcha get it yet?
Then you won't be responding to any more of my posts. I don't give a damn about S~V~S not asking you for reasons, and I don't give a damn about the question you were answering.Golden wrote:linki @epi - ok. I'm not responding to you any more. I do not agree that you are shooting straight. It takes a special kind of cajones to have a lie as the fundamental basis of your accusation and call it shooting straight.
I will not be responding to any more of your posts until you acknowledge that you actually understand that 1) SVS never asked why I would recruit and 2) that is not the question I was answering.
Gambler's fallacy (last time this happened...).Golden wrote:linkie to everyone enjoying epi vs golden. Last time it happened, I was good and epi was bad. Then I get into it with LC. LC is bad, golden is good. When people get into it like this with me, anyone who still is pretending to genuinely believe they think I'm bad is worth lynching imo. Epi knows full well he is wrong. He is enjoying it as much as you.
I'm sorry, you don't give a damn about what question was asked? Then why was it the ENTIRE BACKBONE OF YOUR CASE!Epignosis wrote:Golden wrote:That a good choice for a first lynch might be someone who has a reputation for surviving deep and not getting caught when bad, since a baddie might try to recruit someone that gave them the best shot at winning. Someone like DF or DP, for example, who frequently fly under the radar. Or someone like Typhoony or llama who can often survive deep on their wily skills by not being too civvish to NK nor too baddie-looking to get lynched.S~V~S wrote:I tend to judge people as individuals not as reputations. My best game of all time was Rabbits SOT, I was a ... civvie. We had a large civ BTS group, and we worked pretty well together. That team has been my gold standard of what a team should be. Not so much for the individuals (although they all were awesome and people in the Mafia community that I <3 maybe a bit more than most) but for the way we worked together. I would want cohesion more than anything, really. Team players, no Prima Donnas.
What was your theory?
But if I look at my own psyche, I'd probably just pick people who I felt I could have fun with too. Or that I really wanted to have btsc with because I hadn't yet, or something.
Read this. Golden asked someone about recruitment. That someone was S~V~S.
For me, S~V~S gave a straightforward, believable, and satisfactory answer to the question.
Then she asked Golden the same question.
I'll color it above. That's four different criteria. Why is Golden seeking advice for this? What is his purpose? Couldn't Golden use his own knowledge to determine the best recruits?
But why, when asked for his view on recruitment, did he name four different possibilities instead of being direct?
That is what I find suspicious about Golden.
I have had many run ins with you in the past. You read as civvie Golden that I remember. BWT, Epig I'm on the fence. I have been away from mafia for almost a year now, so there's that.Golden wrote:@rey - exactly. That's why I find it very hard to see BWT as coming from a genuine place. I am, however, very familiar with being a popular day one target for suspicion from baddies, they love to find semantic ways of getting votes on to me.
linki @epi - ok. I'm not responding to you any more. I do not agree that you are shooting straight. It takes a special kind of cajones to have a lie as the fundamental basis of your accusation and call it shooting straight.
I will not be responding to any more of your posts until you acknowledge that you actually understand that 1) SVS never asked why I would recruit and 2) that is not the question I was answering.
linki 2 BWT - ok, that I can kind of read as genuine and understand.
linkie to everyone enjoying epi vs golden. Last time it happened, I was good and epi was bad. Then I get into it with LC. LC is bad, golden is good. When people get into it like this with me, anyone who still is pretending to genuinely believe they think I'm bad is worth lynching imo. Epi knows full well he is wrong. He is enjoying it as much as you.
I see reasons to vote for Golden, but I'll let things play out. I also have a reason not to vote for him.birdwithteeth11 wrote:How do you know that?Golden wrote:MM is voting for me, dontcha get it yet?
Is this shtick?Metalmarsh89 wrote:I will not vote for LoRab today.LoRab wrote:Can we make semantic salmon a color? How about WIFOM wine? We can make colors for all of the things!!
I did not suspect you at all until this. It's as if you are saying--last time I had back and forth I was good, therefore, duh, I'm good. It doesn't work that way. And, claiming good seems disingenuous, unless you're role claiming, since 28 out of 36 players are neutral, and only 4 players are civ--I don't think you're actually claiming one of those roles. But I do think you might be one of the foul four.Golden wrote: linkie to everyone enjoying epi vs golden. Last time it happened, I was good and epi was bad. Then I get into it with LC. LC is bad, golden is good. When people get into it like this with me, anyone who still is pretending to genuinely believe they think I'm bad is worth lynching imo. Epi knows full well he is wrong. He is enjoying it as much as you.
Especially with the: anyone that suspects me must be eevul.
I'm just gonna bang on the drum all day with it if you know what I mean.reywaS wrote:Is this shtick?Metalmarsh89 wrote:I will not vote for LoRab today.LoRab wrote:Can we make semantic salmon a color? How about WIFOM wine? We can make colors for all of the things!!
I did not suspect you at all until this. It's as if you are saying--last time I had back and forth I was good, therefore, duh, I'm good. It doesn't work that way. And, claiming good seems disingenuous, unless you're role claiming, since 28 out of 36 players are neutral, and only 4 players are civ--I don't think you're actually claiming one of those roles. But I do think you might be one of the foul four.Golden wrote: linkie to everyone enjoying epi vs golden. Last time it happened, I was good and epi was bad. Then I get into it with LC. LC is bad, golden is good. When people get into it like this with me, anyone who still is pretending to genuinely believe they think I'm bad is worth lynching imo. Epi knows full well he is wrong. He is enjoying it as much as you.
Especially with the: anyone that suspects me must be eevul.
The leathery/fuzzy back gave it away.S~V~S wrote:Dried mangoes are very apricot-y. They lose some of the sour when dried.
I thought I had something on Golden, but apparently not. And I feel like I've seen him get cornered and thrash about like this (and voted for him), then had him get lynched and flip civ. So I'm trying to be cautious with Golden.Metalmarsh89 wrote:I see reasons to vote for Golden, but I'll let things play out. I also have a reason not to vote for him.birdwithteeth11 wrote:How do you know that?Golden wrote:MM is voting for me, dontcha get it yet?
Why in the world would you eat a fuzzy granola bar? Sounds like mold to me.DharmaHelper wrote:The leathery/fuzzy back gave it away.S~V~S wrote:Dried mangoes are very apricot-y. They lose some of the sour when dried.
He falls on my list of "players that is trying really hard and deserves to make it past Day 1". That said, I will not vote for Golden today.birdwithteeth11 wrote:I thought I had something on Golden, but apparently not. And I feel like I've seen him get cornered and thrash about like this (and voted for him), then had him get lynched and flip civ. So I'm trying to be cautious with Golden.Metalmarsh89 wrote:I see reasons to vote for Golden, but I'll let things play out. I also have a reason not to vote for him.birdwithteeth11 wrote:How do you know that?Golden wrote:MM is voting for me, dontcha get it yet?
I guess right now I'm unsure on him one way or the other. But if I had to vote right now, he would not get my vote.
Golden wrote:That a good choice for a first lynch might be someone who has a reputation for surviving deep and not getting caught when bad, since a baddie might try to recruit someone that gave them the best shot at winning. Someone like DF or DP, for example, who frequently fly under the radar. Or someone like Typhoony or llama who can often survive deep on their wily skills by not being too civvish to NK nor too baddie-looking to get lynched.
But if I look at my own psyche, I'd probably just pick people who I felt I could have fun with too. Or that I really wanted to have btsc with because I hadn't yet, or something.
No sir. This is the entire backbone of my case. It's not about what you asked, or S~V~S, or any of that. It's not about questions. It's that green and brown colored shit up there.Golden wrote:I'm sorry, you don't give a damn about what question was asked? Then why was it the ENTIRE BACKBONE OF YOUR CASE!
There are currently 4 baddies. I wanted alliteration.DharmaHelper wrote:Foul Four?
Woot!!Metalmarsh89 wrote:I will not vote for LoRab today.LoRab wrote:Can we make semantic salmon a color? How about WIFOM wine? We can make colors for all of the things!!
I did not suspect you at all until this. It's as if you are saying--last time I had back and forth I was good, therefore, duh, I'm good. It doesn't work that way. And, claiming good seems disingenuous, unless you're role claiming, since 28 out of 36 players are neutral, and only 4 players are civ--I don't think you're actually claiming one of those roles. But I do think you might be one of the foul four.Golden wrote: linkie to everyone enjoying epi vs golden. Last time it happened, I was good and epi was bad. Then I get into it with LC. LC is bad, golden is good. When people get into it like this with me, anyone who still is pretending to genuinely believe they think I'm bad is worth lynching imo. Epi knows full well he is wrong. He is enjoying it as much as you.
Especially with the: anyone that suspects me must be eevul.
Also had pineapple, coconut, and dates.Metalmarsh89 wrote:He falls on my list of "players that is trying really hard and deserves to make it past Day 1". That said, I will not vote for Golden today.birdwithteeth11 wrote:I thought I had something on Golden, but apparently not. And I feel like I've seen him get cornered and thrash about like this (and voted for him), then had him get lynched and flip civ. So I'm trying to be cautious with Golden.Metalmarsh89 wrote:I see reasons to vote for Golden, but I'll let things play out. I also have a reason not to vote for him.birdwithteeth11 wrote:How do you know that?Golden wrote:MM is voting for me, dontcha get it yet?
I guess right now I'm unsure on him one way or the other. But if I had to vote right now, he would not get my vote.
Linki: I do like bars that have the raw fruits like that in it. It sounds delicious right now, that or beer.
It reminds me of Lara bars, which are good and pretty inexpensive too. Is your poop going to be the same color as Golden's case now? Epignosis found the color scheme noteworthy.DharmaHelper wrote:Also had pineapple, coconut, and dates.Metalmarsh89 wrote:He falls on my list of "players that is trying really hard and deserves to make it past Day 1". That said, I will not vote for Golden today.birdwithteeth11 wrote:I thought I had something on Golden, but apparently not. And I feel like I've seen him get cornered and thrash about like this (and voted for him), then had him get lynched and flip civ. So I'm trying to be cautious with Golden.Metalmarsh89 wrote:I see reasons to vote for Golden, but I'll let things play out. I also have a reason not to vote for him.birdwithteeth11 wrote:How do you know that?Golden wrote:MM is voting for me, dontcha get it yet?
I guess right now I'm unsure on him one way or the other. But if I had to vote right now, he would not get my vote.
Linki: I do like bars that have the raw fruits like that in it. It sounds delicious right now, that or beer.
I'll keep you exclusively updated.Metalmarsh89 wrote:It reminds me of Lara bars, which are good and pretty inexpensive too. Is your poop going to be the same color as Golden's case now? Epignosis found the color scheme noteworthy.DharmaHelper wrote:Also had pineapple, coconut, and dates.Metalmarsh89 wrote:He falls on my list of "players that is trying really hard and deserves to make it past Day 1". That said, I will not vote for Golden today.birdwithteeth11 wrote:I thought I had something on Golden, but apparently not. And I feel like I've seen him get cornered and thrash about like this (and voted for him), then had him get lynched and flip civ. So I'm trying to be cautious with Golden.Metalmarsh89 wrote:I see reasons to vote for Golden, but I'll let things play out. I also have a reason not to vote for him.birdwithteeth11 wrote:How do you know that?Golden wrote:MM is voting for me, dontcha get it yet?
I guess right now I'm unsure on him one way or the other. But if I had to vote right now, he would not get my vote.
Linki: I do like bars that have the raw fruits like that in it. It sounds delicious right now, that or beer.
Are you a recruiter? You should recruit me so we can discuss this BTS.DharmaHelper wrote:I'll keep you exclusively updated.Metalmarsh89 wrote:It reminds me of Lara bars, which are good and pretty inexpensive too. Is your poop going to be the same color as Golden's case now? Epignosis found the color scheme noteworthy.DharmaHelper wrote:Also had pineapple, coconut, and dates.Metalmarsh89 wrote:He falls on my list of "players that is trying really hard and deserves to make it past Day 1". That said, I will not vote for Golden today.birdwithteeth11 wrote:I thought I had something on Golden, but apparently not. And I feel like I've seen him get cornered and thrash about like this (and voted for him), then had him get lynched and flip civ. So I'm trying to be cautious with Golden.Metalmarsh89 wrote:I see reasons to vote for Golden, but I'll let things play out. I also have a reason not to vote for him.birdwithteeth11 wrote:How do you know that?
I guess right now I'm unsure on him one way or the other. But if I had to vote right now, he would not get my vote.
Linki: I do like bars that have the raw fruits like that in it. It sounds delicious right now, that or beer.
Epignosis wrote:Golden wrote:That a good choice for a first lynch might be someone who has a reputation for surviving deep and not getting caught when bad, since a baddie might try to recruit someone that gave them the best shot at winning. Someone like DF or DP, for example, who frequently fly under the radar. Or someone like Typhoony or llama who can often survive deep on their wily skills by not being too civvish to NK nor too baddie-looking to get lynched.
But if I look at my own psyche, I'd probably just pick people who I felt I could have fun with too. Or that I really wanted to have btsc with because I hadn't yet, or something.No sir. This is the entire backbone of my case. It's not about what you asked, or S~V~S, or any of that. It's not about questions. It's that green and brown colored shit up there.Golden wrote:I'm sorry, you don't give a damn about what question was asked? Then why was it the ENTIRE BACKBONE OF YOUR CASE!
People can poo-poo it if they like. I think you are a recruiter based on THAT right there alone.
Sadly I'll just have to email you pictures of my shit.Are you a recruiter? You should recruit me so we can discuss this BTS.
In his case, they might be lugnuts.reywaS wrote:send him the peanuts
Same.Metalmarsh89 wrote:I see reasons to vote for Golden, but I'll let things play out. I also have a reason not to vote for him.birdwithteeth11 wrote:How do you know that?Golden wrote:MM is voting for me, dontcha get it yet?
MovingPictures07 wrote:Fuck x 9001, something's come up re: PhD and I'll probably be pulling an all-nighter tonight and possibly tomorrow night to get all of this shit done. I'm sorry, folks, but this absolutely has to come first.
I'm going to just go ahead and vote unfurl in case I can't come back in time. I know this is unlike me, but I'll be lucky enough to get this done even with not sleeping tonight. I'll catch up properly whenever I can, probably Saturday or Sunday.
Yes- my analysis indicates guilt, not innocence.S~V~S wrote:But do you have reason to believe he is a BADDIE recruiter specifically? Becasue two of the four are benign at worst, good at best.