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glad we're on the same page of 'I forgot the title' LMAO I felt silly for not rememberingWindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:12 pmthe funny thing is that she wasn't teamed with falcon after all
but so now we have 3 dead landlords and 1 dead whatever falcon was (long name, that's all I remember)
you're assuming 4 of each? you don't think it would be unevenly split, like 3 of each with an imbalance of 2+1 in each thread half?
Arbiters of the Rose EmpireDelta wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:15 pmglad we're on the same page of 'I forgot the title' LMAO I felt silly for not rememberingWindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:12 pmthe funny thing is that she wasn't teamed with falcon after all
but so now we have 3 dead landlords and 1 dead whatever falcon was (long name, that's all I remember)
will do \o/WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:17 pmprobably yeah, since people can't claim a plot that's already been claimed (if I understood correctly)
man thats a sick name what game is it referencing?? its giving utena vibes but that wasn't one lolWindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:17 pmArbiters of the Rose EmpireDelta wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:15 pmglad we're on the same page of 'I forgot the title' LMAO I felt silly for not rememberingWindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:12 pmthe funny thing is that she wasn't teamed with falcon after all
but so now we have 3 dead landlords and 1 dead whatever falcon was (long name, that's all I remember)
I checked falcon's flip xD
oh dear thats definitelt a titleWindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:17 pmArbiters of the Rose EmpireDelta wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:15 pmglad we're on the same page of 'I forgot the title' LMAO I felt silly for not rememberingWindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:12 pmthe funny thing is that she wasn't teamed with falcon after all
but so now we have 3 dead landlords and 1 dead whatever falcon was (long name, that's all I remember)
I checked falcon's flip xD
it sounds cooler than landlords lolnutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:19 pmman thats a sick name what game is it referencing?? its giving utena vibes but that wasn't one lolWindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:17 pmArbiters of the Rose EmpireDelta wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:15 pmglad we're on the same page of 'I forgot the title' LMAO I felt silly for not rememberingWindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:12 pmthe funny thing is that she wasn't teamed with falcon after all
but so now we have 3 dead landlords and 1 dead whatever falcon was (long name, that's all I remember)
I checked falcon's flip xD
Teams of 3 in a multiball list of 30 seems really townsided (even moreso than multiball setups usually are). By comparison, World Flags was a multiball setup run a few years ago here with two teams of 3 in 20 players and that ended up being pretty townsided, although here there are likely ITPs which will influence the numbers.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:16 pmyou're assuming 4 of each? you don't think it would be unevenly split, like 3 of each with an imbalance of 2+1 in each thread half?
but yeah, either way, I think you're right that we will have better luck with East Facility players because a total of 3 West Facility players have flipped some sort of mafia (pyxxy, falcon, Abbi), and only 1 in East has flipped mafia (Brad).
yeah i wouldn't be surprised if one of them (leaning monroe) was a landlord (also noting we've had two west landlords and one east but the distribution should almost certainly be random)WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:22 pm anyone wanna discuss the Lemonfairy and DM wagons yesterday that were the alternatives to falcon's wagon? I would not be surprised if we had all remaining landlords (including Abbi) on falcon and the Arbiters on the counterwagons.
Oh, it's cause I was thinking 6/30 are mafia and then there might be 3ps or something? We've now seen a couple of extra kills and I'm not sure where those are coming from. There was an extra nightkill in the East Facility, plus a dayvig in yours? and then two kills here last night. Might expect a dayvig next, based on that pattern. I know I said I thought Sabi could've been slankvigged for zeroposting yesterday, but actually neither of the players who died in East in the double-kill had slanked.leetic wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:21 pmTeams of 3 in a multiball list of 30 seems really townsided (even moreso than multiball setups usually are). By comparison, World Flags was a multiball setup run a few years ago here with two teams of 3 in 20 players and that ended up being pretty townsided, although here there are likely ITPs which will influence the numbers.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:16 pmyou're assuming 4 of each? you don't think it would be unevenly split, like 3 of each with an imbalance of 2+1 in each thread half?
but yeah, either way, I think you're right that we will have better luck with East Facility players because a total of 3 West Facility players have flipped some sort of mafia (pyxxy, falcon, Abbi), and only 1 in East has flipped mafia (Brad).
Abbi's vote history is a little hard to see here since she didn't use the tags, but I'm going to go through it and see where she landed. I think it would also be good to check what falcon's vote history was, in case there was any chance he avoided bussing a partner (or spewed someone as not-Arbiter). I'm not really sure if he has a distinct wolf voting pattern but maybe people who are experts at reading him can glean some info there.nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:25 pmyeah i wouldn't be surprised if one of them (leaning monroe) was a landlord (also noting we've had two west landlords and one east but the distribution should almost certainly be random)WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:22 pm anyone wanna discuss the Lemonfairy and DM wagons yesterday that were the alternatives to falcon's wagon? I would not be surprised if we had all remaining landlords (including Abbi) on falcon and the Arbiters on the counterwagons.
6/30 would be 20% mafia, which would be low even for games with only one faction. In multiball games, you are supposed to have more (for instance, in the most famous multiball setup Fire and Ice it is two teams of two in thirteen players, and that setup is townsided if anything).WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:25 pmOh, it's cause I was thinking 6/30 are mafia and then there might be 3ps or something? We've now seen a couple of extra kills and I'm not sure where those are coming from. There was an extra nightkill in the East Facility, plus a dayvig in yours? and then two kills here last night. Might expect a dayvig next, based on that pattern. I know I said I thought Sabi could've been slankvigged for zeroposting yesterday, but actually neither of the players who died in East in the double-kill had slanked.leetic wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:21 pmTeams of 3 in a multiball list of 30 seems really townsided (even moreso than multiball setups usually are). By comparison, World Flags was a multiball setup run a few years ago here with two teams of 3 in 20 players and that ended up being pretty townsided, although here there are likely ITPs which will influence the numbers.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:16 pmyou're assuming 4 of each? you don't think it would be unevenly split, like 3 of each with an imbalance of 2+1 in each thread half?
but yeah, either way, I think you're right that we will have better luck with East Facility players because a total of 3 West Facility players have flipped some sort of mafia (pyxxy, falcon, Abbi), and only 1 in East has flipped mafia (Brad).
yeah I think falcon's team could definitely afford to bus, I'm not entirely sure if they would have deemed it necessary? Since obviously they must've been doing well when nobody knew they existed for sure, except for maybe the Landlords (I guess the number of members would be a clue).
Yeah, but what I was getting at was a speculation that it could be 6 mafia and a team of serial killer masons or somethingleetic wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:28 pm6/30 would be 20% mafia, which would be low even for games with only one faction. In multiball games, you are supposed to have more (for instance, in the most famous multiball setup Fire and Ice it is two teams of two in thirteen players, and that setup is townsided if anything).WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:25 pmOh, it's cause I was thinking 6/30 are mafia and then there might be 3ps or something? We've now seen a couple of extra kills and I'm not sure where those are coming from. There was an extra nightkill in the East Facility, plus a dayvig in yours? and then two kills here last night. Might expect a dayvig next, based on that pattern. I know I said I thought Sabi could've been slankvigged for zeroposting yesterday, but actually neither of the players who died in East in the double-kill had slanked.leetic wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:21 pmTeams of 3 in a multiball list of 30 seems really townsided (even moreso than multiball setups usually are). By comparison, World Flags was a multiball setup run a few years ago here with two teams of 3 in 20 players and that ended up being pretty townsided, although here there are likely ITPs which will influence the numbers.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:16 pmyou're assuming 4 of each? you don't think it would be unevenly split, like 3 of each with an imbalance of 2+1 in each thread half?
but yeah, either way, I think you're right that we will have better luck with East Facility players because a total of 3 West Facility players have flipped some sort of mafia (pyxxy, falcon, Abbi), and only 1 in East has flipped mafia (Brad).
Bussing is a very high risk low reward strategy in multiball, since the biggest threat to wolves isn't the town but the other wolf team. Still, apparently Abby thought it was a good idea so who knows at this pointWindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:29 pmyeah I think falcon's team could definitely afford to bus, I'm not entirely sure if they would have deemed it necessary? Since obviously they must've been doing well when nobody knew they existed for sure, except for maybe the Landlords (I guess the number of members would be a clue).
I'm quite sure the Landlords just went for bussing cause there was an overwhelming majority of votes on Brad, too, in our threadleetic wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:33 pmBussing is a very high risk low reward strategy in multiball, since the biggest threat to wolves isn't the town but the other wolf team. Still, apparently Abby thought it was a good idea so who knows at this pointWindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:29 pmyeah I think falcon's team could definitely afford to bus, I'm not entirely sure if they would have deemed it necessary? Since obviously they must've been doing well when nobody knew they existed for sure, except for maybe the Landlords (I guess the number of members would be a clue).
That's fair yeahWindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:35 pm Judging by falcon being the first on his team to flip, I think his team probably was less inclined to bus
If I recall correctly, Abby was on pyxxy quite early in the phase. I'll have to recheck it though. Still, I guess maybe they wanted to get rid of a member who wasn't contributing, or they didn't have enough multiball experience to know why it's a bad idea here?WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:35 pmI'm quite sure the Landlords just went for bussing cause there was an overwhelming majority of votes on Brad, too, in our threadleetic wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:33 pmBussing is a very high risk low reward strategy in multiball, since the biggest threat to wolves isn't the town but the other wolf team. Still, apparently Abby thought it was a good idea so who knows at this pointWindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:29 pmyeah I think falcon's team could definitely afford to bus, I'm not entirely sure if they would have deemed it necessary? Since obviously they must've been doing well when nobody knew they existed for sure, except for maybe the Landlords (I guess the number of members would be a clue).
If I were running this, I'd probably go 20 civilians, 4 Mafia A, 4 Mafia B, and 2 independents.leetic wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:21 pmTeams of 3 in a multiball list of 30 seems really townsided (even moreso than multiball setups usually are). By comparison, World Flags was a multiball setup run a few years ago here with two teams of 3 in 20 players and that ended up being pretty townsided, although here there are likely ITPs which will influence the numbers.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:16 pmyou're assuming 4 of each? you don't think it would be unevenly split, like 3 of each with an imbalance of 2+1 in each thread half?
but yeah, either way, I think you're right that we will have better luck with East Facility players because a total of 3 West Facility players have flipped some sort of mafia (pyxxy, falcon, Abbi), and only 1 in East has flipped mafia (Brad).
She started bussing a bit over halfway through the phase, so take that how you will.leetic wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:37 pmIf I recall correctly, Abby was on pyxxy quite early in the phase. I'll have to recheck it though. Still, I guess maybe they wanted to get rid of a member who wasn't contributing, or they didn't have enough multiball experience to know why it's a bad idea here?WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:35 pmI'm quite sure the Landlords just went for bussing cause there was an overwhelming majority of votes on Brad, too, in our threadleetic wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:33 pmBussing is a very high risk low reward strategy in multiball, since the biggest threat to wolves isn't the town but the other wolf team. Still, apparently Abby thought it was a good idea so who knows at this pointWindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:29 pmyeah I think falcon's team could definitely afford to bus, I'm not entirely sure if they would have deemed it necessary? Since obviously they must've been doing well when nobody knew they existed for sure, except for maybe the Landlords (I guess the number of members would be a clue).
Still, the only people who may have been on pyxxy at that point were Epi, Sloonei, and Scrappy, the latter being a sock and the second being a pure sheep? Whatever, not putting any more thought into this when there are almost certainly no remaining landlords in the threadleetic wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:40 pmShe started bussing a bit over halfway through the phase, so take that how you will.leetic wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:37 pmIf I recall correctly, Abby was on pyxxy quite early in the phase. I'll have to recheck it though. Still, I guess maybe they wanted to get rid of a member who wasn't contributing, or they didn't have enough multiball experience to know why it's a bad idea here?WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:35 pmI'm quite sure the Landlords just went for bussing cause there was an overwhelming majority of votes on Brad, too, in our threadleetic wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:33 pmBussing is a very high risk low reward strategy in multiball, since the biggest threat to wolves isn't the town but the other wolf team. Still, apparently Abby thought it was a good idea so who knows at this pointWindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:29 pmyeah I think falcon's team could definitely afford to bus, I'm not entirely sure if they would have deemed it necessary? Since obviously they must've been doing well when nobody knew they existed for sure, except for maybe the Landlords (I guess the number of members would be a clue).
I mean, I'm pretty sure I was under considerably more scrutiny at that point. I'm bad at this "not putting any more thought into this" thingleetic wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:41 pmStill, the only people who may have been on pyxxy at that point were Epi, Sloonei, and Scrappy, the latter being a sock and the second being a pure sheep? Whatever, not putting any more thought into this when there are almost certainly no remaining landlords in the threadleetic wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:40 pmShe started bussing a bit over halfway through the phase, so take that how you will.leetic wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:37 pmIf I recall correctly, Abby was on pyxxy quite early in the phase. I'll have to recheck it though. Still, I guess maybe they wanted to get rid of a member who wasn't contributing, or they didn't have enough multiball experience to know why it's a bad idea here?WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:35 pmI'm quite sure the Landlords just went for bussing cause there was an overwhelming majority of votes on Brad, too, in our threadleetic wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:33 pmBussing is a very high risk low reward strategy in multiball, since the biggest threat to wolves isn't the town but the other wolf team. Still, apparently Abby thought it was a good idea so who knows at this pointWindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:29 pmyeah I think falcon's team could definitely afford to bus, I'm not entirely sure if they would have deemed it necessary? Since obviously they must've been doing well when nobody knew they existed for sure, except for maybe the Landlords (I guess the number of members would be a clue).
Abby's last vote before the switch to falcon. If Abby was trying to bus here, it would make no sense to throw that out for a convergence with town that wouldn't have changed the outcome. Thus, I think Lemonfairy isn't the last landlord at least.
Ding ding ding! We have a winner!
Nope. I don't give a damn about that.
