The Syndicate

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:02 pm syn was so close to shooting guillo lol

but town prob still wouldnt have gotten there on mac in time so

gg

I was mad when he subbed in, cause he had a cold unbiased mindset free of pocketing. I literally yelled at LC for subbing in someone at LYLO, who subs people at LYLO? lol

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:04 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:02 pm syn was so close to shooting guillo lol

but town prob still wouldnt have gotten there on mac in time so

gg

Who was spider girl though?

Oh, it was probably Jack, wasn't it?

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:05 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:02 pm syn was so close to shooting guillo lol

but town prob still wouldnt have gotten there on mac in time so

gg

I was mad when he subbed in, cause he had a cold unbiased mindset free of pocketing. I literally yelled at LC for subbing in someone at LYLO, who subs people at LYLO? lol

falcon was accidentally given spoilers in spec chat, so we coulda resurrected a player who knew the whole scum team instead.

Good game folks, thanks for making it a pretty painless mod experience.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:08 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:05 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:02 pm syn was so close to shooting guillo lol

but town prob still wouldnt have gotten there on mac in time so

gg

I was mad when he subbed in, cause he had a cold unbiased mindset free of pocketing. I literally yelled at LC for subbing in someone at LYLO, who subs people at LYLO? lol

falcon was accidentally given spoilers in spec chat, so we coulda resurrected a player who knew the whole scum team instead.

Oh crap! Ok, now i understand. lol

KZA wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:53 pm GG, tough bounce

Give it back KZA




Thanks for the game mods. This was a tough game when everyone claimed, but also helped us win in a way. Thanks to Mac and guillo for coaching me and for being great with handling everything in chat. Of course my other team also even though they died too soon.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:05 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:04 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:02 pm syn was so close to shooting guillo lol

but town prob still wouldnt have gotten there on mac in time so

gg

Who was spider girl though?

Oh, it was probably Jack, wasn't it?

didn't he believe mac tho?? or did he think he was town covering him?

i thought maybe that role was taken out and the scion was given some other way, potentially that mac knew about

Jack was Miles Morales p sure

gg

I guess G-Man really was fooled by a player message

Is wolf chat available for viewing as well?

I don't think I would have gotten there even if I had shot Guillo. I was gonna hard push Epi for the chop, and I found it extremely unlikely that a villager would've been fooled by the Scion play.

Record at LYLO remains zero, woohoo

Yes the spider girl role was removed and it was just a fake claim. Same with ghost spider. The scion was arbitrarily given to G-Man and we were told of that so the fake claim was viable.

surprised mac/guillo had so little consideration after guillos constant shading of Mac while never giving a fuck to actually push him and mac shielding guillo after scum reading him lol

but eh, I didn't rly wanna bother with this lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:37 pm Yes the spider girl role was removed and it was just a fake claim. Same with ghost spider. The scion was arbitrarily given to G-Man and we were told of that so the fake claim was viable.

Dang, okay:/ I don't feel that bad then. I was going to be mad if Jack or Epi was your role and not CCing you there.
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the fact mafia is GIVEN fake claims in a setup with soup like that is kinda dumb imo

like, having pre-given fake claims kinda removes the need for soup, and that + it being open makes me meh

Yes well the game went from 30 to 26 and he took away two scum roles and the two most neg utility town roles so let's not lament balance eh.

ah well idk why remove 2 scum roles

didn't notice that

idc the balance though I basically resigned from this game d2

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:37 pm Yes the spider girl role was removed and it was just a fake claim. Same with ghost spider. The scion was arbitrarily given to G-Man and we were told of that so the fake claim was viable.

Ah... That explains it... though I, er, have opinions about that. It feels kind of bastard to have an open setup, make it clear that the Scion is tied to a specific role, and then remove the role but keep the Scion in play. There's no way to mechanically disprove the claim and the host is complicit in it.

Granted, that's the opinion of someone who subbed in LYLO. And I don't think it was necessarily hopeless; I did, after all, have you in the "probably confirmed" pile but not confirmed confirmed. Epi would've just been a much juicier target for me.

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:49 pm idc the balance though I basically resigned from this game d2

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:43 pm the fact mafia is GIVEN fake claims in a setup with soup like that is kinda dumb imo

i think there were some balance issues yeah

but town also couldve been better about not claiming so much

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:56 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:43 pm the fact mafia is GIVEN fake claims in a setup with soup like that is kinda dumb imo

i think there were some balance issues yeah

but town also couldve been better about not claiming so much

/shrug I didn't until it was good

At the start of the game the balance was intensely in town's favour. Then we lost 2 mafia in 2 days. The only way town lost this game was by claiming, which our team heavily encouraged and manipulated a lot of you into doing. That's the main story here. The little details meh.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:58 pm At the start of the game the balance was intensely in town's favour. Then we lost 2 mafia in 2 days. The only way town lost this game was by claiming, which our team heavily encouraged and manipulated a lot of you into doing. That's the main story here. The little details meh.

This! Bottom line, if there is a soup kill or indicative that there is a soup kill, it's best not to claim because it is designed to punish claiming. Yah.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:58 pm At the start of the game the balance was intensely in town's favour. Then we lost 2 mafia in 2 days. The only way town lost this game was by claiming, which our team heavily encouraged and manipulated a lot of you into doing. That's the main story here. The little details meh.

I'm not saying anything about how you played or town played. I barely read the game. I was just commenting I didn't like that part

made's play was still awesome loool

the missed soup night p great for town

but ppl like reywas really shouldnt have had to claim

town lost on our own mistakes (mine was huge) so w/e

Also. I will nominate Made for best Town Gambit for this game. If there are awards here

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:14 pm Jack was Miles Morales p sure

Yup.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:41 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:37 pm Yes the spider girl role was removed and it was just a fake claim. Same with ghost spider. The scion was arbitrarily given to G-Man and we were told of that so the fake claim was viable.

Dang, okay:/ I don't feel that bad then. I was going to be mad if Jack or Epi was your role and not CCing you there.
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Oh, I’d have totally CCed.

Well played mafia, btw.

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:43 pm the fact mafia is GIVEN fake claims in a setup with soup like that is kinda dumb imo

Tend to agree. Soup is supposed to punish claiming but if fake claims come with abilities that “confirm” them as town per the front page...then claiming isn’t a powerful town ability that merits the wolves getting like 6 extra kills.

That said, it’s the town’s fault for handing those kills to the wolves and the wolves played a great game and the setup was overall very good.

I’m just saying as a general rule, both are probably unnecessary.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:16 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:14 pm Jack was Miles Morales p sure

Yup.

I actually went through the effort of matching claims and flips, so I was sitting there with a scowl on my face when you and Epi refused to claim when there were only two unclaimed roles on the list. :lol:

But your non-answer actually helped a lot. I suspected Morales but needed the extra nudge, and you gave it.

Should've just shot Guillo. Why did I have to believe "honest mistake," smh.

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:16 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:16 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:14 pm Jack was Miles Morales p sure

Yup.

I actually went through the effort of matching claims and flips, so I was sitting there with a scowl on my face when you and Epi refused to claim when there were only two unclaimed roles on the list. :lol:

But your non-answer actually helped a lot. I suspected Morales but needed the extra nudge, and you gave it.

Should've just shot Guillo. Why did I have to believe "honest mistake," smh.

Because it was. I misunderstood my fake claim lol

gg mafia!

thank you Long Con for hosting this! Thank you to the mods here too.

Special thanks to MacDougall for asking me to come and play!

I enjoyed this game very much.



I remember how much fun mafia games can be. you guys here in this community are really good and this game and the other game I played here have made me feel like I'm a member here too and not an outsider.

This game wasn't easy, it had lots of twists and turns but it was really good and entertaining.

Epignosis, I hope we play a game together again one day.

oh and @Long Con I loved the flavours you gave for this game!! ♡♡

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:55 pm gg mafia!

thank you Long Con for hosting this! Thank you to the mods here too.

Special thanks to MacDougall for asking me to come and play!

I enjoyed this game very much.



I remember how much fun mafia games can be. you guys here in this community are really good and this game and the other game I played here have made me feel like I'm a member here too and not an outsider.

This game wasn't easy, it had lots of twists and turns but it was really good and entertaining.

Epignosis, I hope we play a game together again one day.

I should express that I quite enjoyed my experience with you.

Remember folks, railroading G-Man for little to no reason whatsoever is always a bad idea.

I kept quiet when Made and Michelle were claiming my role. I didn’t want to claim and add to soup mania. Claiming made it too easy for the baddies to roll us.

All of my posts this game began with the letter R.

Thanks for the game, LC. You are a flavor champ.

Sorry G. That was my fault.

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:33 pm Remember folks, railroading G-Man for little to no reason whatsoever is always a bad idea.

I kept quiet when Made and Michelle were claiming my role. I didn’t want to claim and add to soup mania. Claiming made it too easy for the baddies to roll us.

All of my posts this game began with the letter R.

Thanks for the game, LC. You are a flavor champ.

Holy crap, yes you did. All of them began with r. Now that is a nice Easter egg

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:59 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:33 pm Remember folks, railroading G-Man for little to no reason whatsoever is always a bad idea.

I kept quiet when Made and Michelle were claiming my role. I didn’t want to claim and add to soup mania. Claiming made it too easy for the baddies to roll us.

All of my posts this game began with the letter R.

Thanks for the game, LC. You are a flavor champ.

Holy crap, yes you did. All of them began with r. Now that is a nice Easter egg

He's been doing this for years btw, has gone through the alphabet with a different letter each game (the last game he played before this he did Q)

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:33 pm Remember folks, railroading G-Man for little to no reason whatsoever is always a bad idea.

I kept quiet when Made and Michelle were claiming my role. I didn’t want to claim and add to soup mania. Claiming made it too easy for the baddies to roll us.

All of my posts this game began with the letter R.

Thanks for the game, LC. You are a flavor champ.

Thank you for blowing my mind just a little... again.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:03 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:59 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:33 pm Remember folks, railroading G-Man for little to no reason whatsoever is always a bad idea.

I kept quiet when Made and Michelle were claiming my role. I didn’t want to claim and add to soup mania. Claiming made it too easy for the baddies to roll us.

All of my posts this game began with the letter R.

Thanks for the game, LC. You are a flavor champ.

Holy crap, yes you did. All of them began with r. Now that is a nice Easter egg

He's been doing this for years btw, has gone through the alphabet with a different letter each game (the last game he played before this he did Q)

That's very cool. It's his signature pretty much.

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:33 pm Remember folks, railroading G-Man for little to no reason whatsoever is always a bad idea.

I kept quiet when Made and Michelle were claiming my role. I didn’t want to claim and add to soup mania. Claiming made it too easy for the baddies to roll us.

All of my posts this game began with the letter R.

Thanks for the game, LC. You are a flavor champ.

Whoa haha, thats cool!

-/-/-/

Congrats scumlordz!

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:43 pm the fact mafia is GIVEN fake claims in a setup with soup like that is kinda dumb imo

I low key agree, but imo balancing role madness in general is not a very easy... Its hard to say when "x" provided tool is simply too strong for one side. Repeated play throughs with similar roles w/ different rosters of players is going to yield widely different results every game. All the fun and the torture's of role madness is that there are a lot of weird scenarios that can arise, and its easy to over look stuff on the onset that will have a dramatic impact on the game later. So while I think that mafia having fake claims + soup kill is really strong, I also bet that a lot of unseen role interactions could have also made the set-up much too town sided.

Except for seemers, thats role is busted :P

Wasnt even in the game, and it had a dramatic impact on how D4/D5 went down.

Don’t claim so much in a game with a soup kill and when a scum claims D1 kill them

GGs