Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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nutellaphant
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Voters: Akemi Homura, Quokka, Fuskdall, My Shell
day 0/1 obviously fake mason claims are currently in styleMaid wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:15 amRole playing and FPSing in the same time.Akemi Homura wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:52 amSpoiler: show
I was roleplaying, to a T, on day 1 and the jury didn't vote me. They suck. :P
But the fact that Dusk just went along with it till now makes me feel they have very high w equity with nutella.
Rescinding your claim after I pointed it out smh
like bs. "went along with it" didn't contradict an obviously fake mason claim? and how does that get you to high wolf equity with nutella? completely nonsensicalAkemi Homura wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:52 amSpoiler: show
I was roleplaying, to a T, on day 1 and the jury didn't vote me. They suck. :P
But the fact that Dusk just went along with it till now makes me feel they have very high w equity with nutella.
Several people pointed it out (I can count at least 3), but no one actually cared about it. The mafia didn't kill either me nor you. Two days in a row. Since I know my rolecard and am town, it must mean you're mafia.Fuskdall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:41 amlike bs. "went along with it" didn't contradict an obviously fake mason claim? and how does that get you to high wolf equity with nutella? completely nonsensicalAkemi Homura wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:52 amSpoiler: show
I was roleplaying, to a T, on day 1 and the jury didn't vote me. They suck. :P
But the fact that Dusk just went along with it till now makes me feel they have very high w equity with nutella.
nutellaphant wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:04 am fuskdall and akemi being on the same wagon here seemingly at random is the most mason-indicative thing they have done this entire game, ama.
If you think vig isn't super pro town then you haven't much experience with role power setups tbh, regardless of your game knowledge I'm sure at least one wolf is aware!Maid wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:13 amThere are another roles that requires perfect reads, right?
Wolves are rarely killing the town vig, they often misfire and maybe my reads were bad enough, we can think at the game from this perspective, if you thought I can be vig maybe wolves had the same idea...
TMI everywhere.nutellaphant wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:03 am
fuskdall seems very random from the get go… that doesn’t give me any impression about their alignment, really.
akemi’s first post is something very unlikely to come from mafia who has just started the game. (tying yourself to someone else with a mason claim) would easily be outed if fake, too.
i actually really hate ponystarkprime claiming mason, come to think of it? the first time it was done, it read as genuine, and neither fuskdall nor akemi were wolfy up to page 2 (where i currently am). fuskdall also doesn’t seem to question it whatsoever, so that strengthens the claim (or makes them w/w, but i don’t find either of them independently wolfy).
meanwhile psp is over here randomly claiming it with dodo, and then claiming cop. feels like trolling, but the kind of trolling that’s actively bothersome to town, and that’s why i think it’s mafia indicative.
i disagree with paprika that the miller claim was unlikely to come from mafia because it gathered too much attention. there might be a mechanical reason why they did this as scum, and claiming miller regardless of whether you’re actually a miller or just mafia always attracts attention. if they are new like they claimed, they wouldn’t know. and so, they wouldn’t be hesitant to claim if that was the wolf plan, because they wouldn’t know the consequences. and if they are lying about being new then 1. that’s very scummy and 2. could still claim miller as mafia, even with the attention being a factor.
i guess you could say that they’d discuss it in wolfchat, blah, blah, blah, but i’m not going to spend too much time on this. i just think it’s still a viable claim from scum here, and i wouldn’t dismiss that possibility so easily.
i also find it weird that paprika’s tying 1337 and maid together in their read, because i don’t think they should be tied together at all.
i find a lot of paprika’s posts weird. their approach to the game feels like they are trying to deepwolf. i can’t really explain it very well. posts like #141 where they question their townreads about scumreads on their other townreads feel exactly like the type of thing a wolf would do when they want to establish a consensus towncore with wolves in it, and as few villagers as possible. or it’s pockety.
i dislike the fact paprika is tying so many people together in their reads, because it’s dangerous to group people so much if you’re town. if you’re wrong on one, the likelihood of you being wrong on the other is higher, because you’re not looking at them independently.
i still like dodo’s posts on a tonal level and i like the fact they seem unconcerned about appearances. they seem excited and happy to be in this game and that’s always >rand v.
i’m also feeling slightly better about maid, but i’m not exactly sure why that is.
i’m not sure why everyone’s scumreading dodo, actually. i reach the conclusion they are town, and everyone else reaches the conclusion they are mafia. i don’t really see a problem with their posts, and their vote looked more memey / relaxed than opportunistic to me. that said, their reaction to being pushed didn’t sit right with me, but i still lean town.
akemi homura (the more i think about it, the more the mason claim seems fake to me given the things akemi has done this game. i’m still townreading her and fuskdall independently from the mason claim, but that does trouble me.)
The vig was blocked today too.
if the elephant is mafia, quokka's right, a save indicates mafia involvementMy Shell wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:14 pmDoes not contradict, teammates bussed thinking she would be gone but ended up saved by counter again after all. Both can be trueQuokka wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:13 pmYou say nutella was saved 2 days in a row, but then also say they are bussed, which is it?
This is absurd and if Alison ever said this I’d kill her so in character I’m killing you after nutellaAkemi Homura wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:04 pmSeveral people pointed it out (I can count at least 3), but no one actually cared about it. The mafia didn't kill either me nor you. Two days in a row. Since I know my rolecard and am town, it must mean you're mafia.Fuskdall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:41 amlike bs. "went along with it" didn't contradict an obviously fake mason claim? and how does that get you to high wolf equity with nutella? completely nonsensicalAkemi Homura wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:52 amSpoiler: show
I was roleplaying, to a T, on day 1 and the jury didn't vote me. They suck. :P
But the fact that Dusk just went along with it till now makes me feel they have very high w equity with nutella.
Pretty sure if memory serves me right nutella was the first one to point out my fakeclaim, but again went no where with it.
Apparently but you weren't on a relevant wagon so maybe you are still goodPonySparkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:11 pmso every single day 2 wagon was townie, are we really that shit at this game?
I'll flip nutella firstFuskdall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:24 pmThis is absurd and if Alison ever said this I’d kill her so in character I’m killing you after nutellaAkemi Homura wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:04 pmSeveral people pointed it out (I can count at least 3), but no one actually cared about it. The mafia didn't kill either me nor you. Two days in a row. Since I know my rolecard and am town, it must mean you're mafia.Fuskdall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:41 amlike bs. "went along with it" didn't contradict an obviously fake mason claim? and how does that get you to high wolf equity with nutella? completely nonsensicalAkemi Homura wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:52 amSpoiler: show
I was roleplaying, to a T, on day 1 and the jury didn't vote me. They suck. :P
But the fact that Dusk just went along with it till now makes me feel they have very high w equity with nutella.
Pretty sure if memory serves me right nutella was the first one to point out my fakeclaim, but again went no where with it.
Why is nutella town?1337 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:25 pmApparently but you weren't on a relevant wagon so maybe you are still goodPonySparkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:11 pmso every single day 2 wagon was townie, are we really that shit at this game?
i don't like this post, you just acknowledged that you've continued to "save" nutella, but still feel the urge to beat the other players in this thread
damn straight1337 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:25 pmApparently but you weren't on a relevant wagon so maybe you are still goodPonySparkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:11 pmso every single day 2 wagon was townie, are we really that shit at this game?
Town.PonySparkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:27 pmi don't like this post, you just acknowledged that you've continued to "save" nutella, but still feel the urge to beat the other players in this thread
i'm into that stuff (but consent is still important)
Parikas flipped town in a tied wagon. I know I am town, I know that nurse is town that leaves 2 unknowns on the wagon. 4 unknowns on the tied wagon for Nutella who you propose is mafia.Akemi Homura wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:26 pmWhy is nutella town?1337 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:25 pmApparently but you weren't on a relevant wagon so maybe you are still goodPonySparkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:11 pmso every single day 2 wagon was townie, are we really that shit at this game?
none of these are tmi thoughAkemi Homura wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:16 pmTMI everywhere.nutellaphant wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:03 am
fuskdall seems very random from the get go… that doesn’t give me any impression about their alignment, really.
akemi’s first post is something very unlikely to come from mafia who has just started the game. (tying yourself to someone else with a mason claim) would easily be outed if fake, too.
i actually really hate ponystarkprime claiming mason, come to think of it? the first time it was done, it read as genuine, and neither fuskdall nor akemi were wolfy up to page 2 (where i currently am). fuskdall also doesn’t seem to question it whatsoever, so that strengthens the claim (or makes them w/w, but i don’t find either of them independently wolfy).
meanwhile psp is over here randomly claiming it with dodo, and then claiming cop. feels like trolling, but the kind of trolling that’s actively bothersome to town, and that’s why i think it’s mafia indicative.
i disagree with paprika that the miller claim was unlikely to come from mafia because it gathered too much attention. there might be a mechanical reason why they did this as scum, and claiming miller regardless of whether you’re actually a miller or just mafia always attracts attention. if they are new like they claimed, they wouldn’t know. and so, they wouldn’t be hesitant to claim if that was the wolf plan, because they wouldn’t know the consequences. and if they are lying about being new then 1. that’s very scummy and 2. could still claim miller as mafia, even with the attention being a factor.
i guess you could say that they’d discuss it in wolfchat, blah, blah, blah, but i’m not going to spend too much time on this. i just think it’s still a viable claim from scum here, and i wouldn’t dismiss that possibility so easily.
i also find it weird that paprika’s tying 1337 and maid together in their read, because i don’t think they should be tied together at all.
i find a lot of paprika’s posts weird. their approach to the game feels like they are trying to deepwolf. i can’t really explain it very well. posts like #141 where they question their townreads about scumreads on their other townreads feel exactly like the type of thing a wolf would do when they want to establish a consensus towncore with wolves in it, and as few villagers as possible. or it’s pockety.
i dislike the fact paprika is tying so many people together in their reads, because it’s dangerous to group people so much if you’re town. if you’re wrong on one, the likelihood of you being wrong on the other is higher, because you’re not looking at them independently.
i still like dodo’s posts on a tonal level and i like the fact they seem unconcerned about appearances. they seem excited and happy to be in this game and that’s always >rand v.
i’m also feeling slightly better about maid, but i’m not exactly sure why that is.
i’m not sure why everyone’s scumreading dodo, actually. i reach the conclusion they are town, and everyone else reaches the conclusion they are mafia. i don’t really see a problem with their posts, and their vote looked more memey / relaxed than opportunistic to me. that said, their reaction to being pushed didn’t sit right with me, but i still lean town.
akemi homura (the more i think about it, the more the mason claim seems fake to me given the things akemi has done this game. i’m still townreading her and fuskdall independently from the mason claim, but that does trouble me.)
Fuskfall and nutella can definitely be w/w
Where was your soft? I read through your Day 1 and found nothingMy Shell wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:20 amDid not have shot N1 my role works a weird way.Quokka wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:37 amHMMM
I believe this, not because of the soft, but because it is a totally unecessary claim if she is scum. Especially with a competing claim on the table, it's just too risky.
If what you say is true then I am less suspicious of 1312, his claim of miller with innocent child award looked legitimate, and if mafia already know the vigilante then he wouldn't be fishing for it in thread but would be trying to pocket you.
Did you try to shoot anyone N1, or were you blocked then also?
TMIing people as not wolf and they are being very discreet in how they handle me and dusk, feels like they have TMI on me in trusting me bt being discreet about the read cos...Dusk is probably mafia here.PonySparkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:37 pmnone of these are tmi thoughAkemi Homura wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:16 pmTMI everywhere.nutellaphant wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:03 am
fuskdall seems very random from the get go… that doesn’t give me any impression about their alignment, really.
akemi’s first post is something very unlikely to come from mafia who has just started the game. (tying yourself to someone else with a mason claim) would easily be outed if fake, too.
i actually really hate ponystarkprime claiming mason, come to think of it? the first time it was done, it read as genuine, and neither fuskdall nor akemi were wolfy up to page 2 (where i currently am). fuskdall also doesn’t seem to question it whatsoever, so that strengthens the claim (or makes them w/w, but i don’t find either of them independently wolfy).
meanwhile psp is over here randomly claiming it with dodo, and then claiming cop. feels like trolling, but the kind of trolling that’s actively bothersome to town, and that’s why i think it’s mafia indicative.
i disagree with paprika that the miller claim was unlikely to come from mafia because it gathered too much attention. there might be a mechanical reason why they did this as scum, and claiming miller regardless of whether you’re actually a miller or just mafia always attracts attention. if they are new like they claimed, they wouldn’t know. and so, they wouldn’t be hesitant to claim if that was the wolf plan, because they wouldn’t know the consequences. and if they are lying about being new then 1. that’s very scummy and 2. could still claim miller as mafia, even with the attention being a factor.
i guess you could say that they’d discuss it in wolfchat, blah, blah, blah, but i’m not going to spend too much time on this. i just think it’s still a viable claim from scum here, and i wouldn’t dismiss that possibility so easily.
i also find it weird that paprika’s tying 1337 and maid together in their read, because i don’t think they should be tied together at all.
i find a lot of paprika’s posts weird. their approach to the game feels like they are trying to deepwolf. i can’t really explain it very well. posts like #141 where they question their townreads about scumreads on their other townreads feel exactly like the type of thing a wolf would do when they want to establish a consensus towncore with wolves in it, and as few villagers as possible. or it’s pockety.
i dislike the fact paprika is tying so many people together in their reads, because it’s dangerous to group people so much if you’re town. if you’re wrong on one, the likelihood of you being wrong on the other is higher, because you’re not looking at them independently.
i still like dodo’s posts on a tonal level and i like the fact they seem unconcerned about appearances. they seem excited and happy to be in this game and that’s always >rand v.
i’m also feeling slightly better about maid, but i’m not exactly sure why that is.
i’m not sure why everyone’s scumreading dodo, actually. i reach the conclusion they are town, and everyone else reaches the conclusion they are mafia. i don’t really see a problem with their posts, and their vote looked more memey / relaxed than opportunistic to me. that said, their reaction to being pushed didn’t sit right with me, but i still lean town.
akemi homura (the more i think about it, the more the mason claim seems fake to me given the things akemi has done this game. i’m still townreading her and fuskdall independently from the mason claim, but that does trouble me.)
Fuskfall and nutella can definitely be w/w
the closest thing nutella's done to tmi (that I've seen) is the possible accident of thinking they killed 1337
D2PonySparkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:46 pmWhere was your soft? I read through your Day 1 and found nothingMy Shell wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:20 amDid not have shot N1 my role works a weird way.Quokka wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:37 amHMMM
I believe this, not because of the soft, but because it is a totally unecessary claim if she is scum. Especially with a competing claim on the table, it's just too risky.
If what you say is true then I am less suspicious of 1312, his claim of miller with innocent child award looked legitimate, and if mafia already know the vigilante then he wouldn't be fishing for it in thread but would be trying to pocket you.
Did you try to shoot anyone N1, or were you blocked then also?
That's a very hot take
If you somehow are town I may consider this I do not like how martin completely disappeared after D1.nutellaphant wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:51 pm i am town and i probably shouldn't have replaced in
I couldn't have foreseen these circumstances honestly but I will still try to make reads
I think martin is still mafia unless he's literally an ic or something
I'm not sure why nobody else is seeing it, but his push on my slot reeked of opportunism
it's less strong considering what happened day 2 but I still think that looked really bad and he wasn't evaluating me at all
I never town read you don't know what you are remembering but it is wrongnutellaphant wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:53 pm akemi apparently scumreading her own mason is apparently a thing despite the fact they are on my wagon together right now
possibly a distancing move and they are w/w but if they are then I'm not getting there today
I don't know why quokka is voting me
I don't know why my shell is voting me after townreading me yesterday. is it because of the "1 wolf in nutella/my shell" thing yesterday or did something happen overnight because I recall them townreading me and I townread them back?
I AM VOTING FOR THIS PERSON PLS DO NOT CHALENGE MY READING COMPREHENSIONMy Shell wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:15 pm For those who apparently still cannot be bothered to read my posts
I shot nutella last night and she is alive
I had softed about shooting counter if we had d2 v flip
I believe her survival increases her chance of being wolf
How many times do I need to say this to be acknowledged
I want details for this claim miss. Thanks
It's a reaction test, Fusk already sayd zero, which is extremely odd to know.