Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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You first.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 1:26 pm [VOTE: JACK] aubergine but if anybody else wants to kill Sloonei please hit me up on MSN Messenger and I’ll be sure to switch.
This is a nothing response. sprit takes a big long post from sabie and just reiterates the things that she said for no discernible reason and without arriving at any conclusion. He gave a generic self-defense and then vomited up some more words. Bad look.sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:18 pmhi im reading day 1 finallysabie12 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:44 am So mac has given up on defending himself or making cases on people he accuses? Or does that not even need to happen anymore because in games I've played lately it seems like people don't have to bother to give reasons anymore. Every time I think mac is bad because he's given up and doesn't care I end up being wrong so I dont know.
As of right now I don't know for sure. I have such a hard time making reads day 1. The exchange between creature and epi was interesting but I thought that about creature and another player before and everyone was like oh that's not weird and they weren't bad so I don't know. Could they be teammates? Maybe but I feel like they wouldn't be that obvious about it.
I feel like Jack and spirityo are usually more quick to go around making accusations and getting people to talk but have been more cautious this day 1. BWT also was quick to say vote epi but didnt and hasnt said much other than that they didnt know if they checked in.
We have yet to hear from oreki colin and dragomir
I dont think I've ever played with TSP before so I dont have anything to go on. Sloonei and LC seem like they're usual selves at this point.
Glorfindel seems to be making an effort to follow Jimmy's guide and be like a super civ. Could be an effort to make sure they seem as civ as possible when maybe they aren't.
i only make accusations when i can back them up. Cautious is also not a word in my vocabulary. Reckless is though
the rest of this is pretty on par for what's going on though.
"mac is doing something weird"
"some people did a back and forth"
"these people are acting different"
"no shows"
"dont know, usual selves, glorf is town"
nothing bad on sabie, but it's cut and dry
A half hour later, after finding "nothing bad on sabie" and approving of her verbal shruggage, sprit doprs a "scum" gth read on her. The only post he made in between these two posts was to express vague unfavorable reads on both LC and Creature. Bad look.sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:45 pm okay that was easy and with an hour and a half to spare
so quick player salad:
Jackofhearts2005 - N/A
Oreki - N/A
Dragoteeth - N/A
ColinIsCool - scum
Creature - scum
Long Con - scum
sabie12 scum
Sloonei - scum
TonyStarkPrime - town
Glorfindel - town
MacDougall - town
So really my issue right now is why are we only talking about the day 1 events and no one is talking about possible epi killers.
personally reading all of that made me want to lynch epi. but someone obviously felt threatened enough by him either directly, or his presence alone to kill him straight away.
thoughts?
sprityo very nearly names all four of the main suspects from Day 2. He's just missing one.
Votes for sabie, but it's just to ensure a tie.
This is the justification sprit gives for his list of scum reads. These words mean nothing to me. Especially that read on me. "just a gut read" is the same as saying "I pulled this read straight from my ass." His reason for sabie isn't really even a reason for suspicion. It's just an observation of her status within the game.sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:53 pmSabie is beaten to death like a horse
Jack was being low lying but I didn’t have enough to say that st the time
You’re just a gut read
LC was giving me jokey standoffish vibes which I think related to him being scum
Colin is being cautious in his words, which is something I know he does as mafia
Creature hasn’t said anything I liked all game
What other trees can we bark up?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:03 pm 2 hours left. Is it this quiet if a top lynch candidate is mafia? Maybe if mafia has committed hard to the shut up and let people fight campaign but generally it seems like we’re barking up the wrong tree.
Well I’m not just all y’all.
I don’t reallt know I’m turning into creature now aren’t I.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:06 pmWhat other trees can we bark up?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:03 pm 2 hours left. Is it this quiet if a top lynch candidate is mafia? Maybe if mafia has committed hard to the shut up and let people fight campaign but generally it seems like we’re barking up the wrong tree.
Well I’m not just all y’all.
So this is why Sprityo is voting me. Cool cool.
Esp when Sabie was having irl problems and wouldn't be able to capitalize on bussing me anyway.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:10 pmSo this is why Sprityo is voting me. Cool cool.
Hey Sprityo. Why would Sabie put me at a tie D1 when she can self preserve instead of we're wolves together? I've solo won twice this year as a wolf. I'm not D1 bus material.
And here's why Colin is voting for me.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 1:26 pm [VOTE: JACK] aubergine but if anybody else wants to kill Sloonei please hit me up on MSN Messenger and I’ll be sure to switch.
What's the strongest point against him?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:23 pmNah. He's town.
The question is if we should lynch Colin or not.
Better him than me.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:23 pmWhat's the strongest point against him?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:23 pmNah. He's town.
The question is if we should lynch Colin or not.
Gizmo's wincon is secretsed. I'd guess he needs the shop owner dead but if it came down to 2 vs 2 vs 1, it's not like the mafia can just claim and take majority with Gizmo because Gizmo may or may not be able to win with them. Even if Gizmo can win with the mafia, the day plays out like a normal day. Also, I just remembered the mafia can't claim anyways.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:36 pm It is 6 vs 2 vs 1 right now. A mislynch + a kill tonight puts us at 4 vs 2 vs 1 if we assume the worst. That makes tomorrow a probably mylo situation with a mislynch here. We could probably use more urgency. But at the same time I don't hate where my vote is right now. I just wish more things were happening to strengthen our reads.
Can't you just let me inspire the town with the threat of eternal suffering?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:43 pmGizmo's wincon is secretsed. I'd guess he needs the shop owner dead but if it came down to 2 vs 2 vs 1, it's not like the mafia can just claim and take majority with Gizmo because Gizmo may or may not be able to win with them. Even if Gizmo can win with the mafia, the day plays out like a normal day. Also, I just remembered the mafia can't claim anyways.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:36 pm It is 6 vs 2 vs 1 right now. A mislynch + a kill tonight puts us at 4 vs 2 vs 1 if we assume the worst. That makes tomorrow a probably mylo situation with a mislynch here. We could probably use more urgency. But at the same time I don't hate where my vote is right now. I just wish more things were happening to strengthen our reads.
Point being, we have at least 2 mislynches.
Why not Colin?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:00 pm I do not think we should lynch Colin today. I think Jack is town. I’m working right now if you have questions on this I’ll try to answer before EOD.
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It's just which of them is less aware of how wrong their vote today is. Like they should both know better.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:00 pm I do not think we should lynch Colin today. I think Jack is town. I’m working right now if you have questions on this I’ll try to answer before EOD.
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Unless, of course we were looking at dual Mafia wagons there. If Creature were ‘the Master’, surely that would explain a bus on Sabie?
Glor, can you update us on your readlist?Glorfindel wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:21 pmUnless, of course we were looking at dual Mafia wagons there. If Creature were ‘the Master’, surely that would explain a bus on Sabie?
Nah don’t vote sprityoTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:00 pm I do not think we should lynch Colin today. I think Jack is town. I’m working right now if you have questions on this I’ll try to answer before EOD.
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Why not?ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:30 pmNah don’t vote sprityoTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:00 pm I do not think we should lynch Colin today. I think Jack is town. I’m working right now if you have questions on this I’ll try to answer before EOD.
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He’s playing as town as I’ve seen him imo. He was a lot more calculated in Retro and probably would have killed Mac N1 imho (sprit can weigh in on this of course). I just don’t see the argument for him.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:33 pmWhy not?ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:30 pmNah don’t vote sprityoTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:00 pm I do not think we should lynch Colin today. I think Jack is town. I’m working right now if you have questions on this I’ll try to answer before EOD.
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This isn’t helping your case.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:30 pmNah don’t vote sprityoTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:00 pm I do not think we should lynch Colin today. I think Jack is town. I’m working right now if you have questions on this I’ll try to answer before EOD.
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TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:36 pmThis isn’t helping your case.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:30 pmNah don’t vote sprityoTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:00 pm I do not think we should lynch Colin today. I think Jack is town. I’m working right now if you have questions on this I’ll try to answer before EOD.
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I’ve definitely seen a more town version of sprityo than this. Why would he have killed mac?ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:35 pmHe’s playing as town as I’ve seen him imo. He was a lot more calculated in Retro and probably would have killed Mac N1 imho (sprit can weigh in on this of course). I just don’t see the argument for him.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:33 pmWhy not?ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:30 pmNah don’t vote sprityoTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:00 pm I do not think we should lynch Colin today. I think Jack is town. I’m working right now if you have questions on this I’ll try to answer before EOD.
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So who do you want to lynch?ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:37 pm I’m sorta waffling on my suspicion of Sloonei. I think I had it in 2 with sabie and Jack last round because his backing-off of the Sloonei-recruit-theory makes his support for it feel illegitimate
Mac is more of a thorn in his side than Epi. On a team with sabie having just been defended by Epi that kill doesn’t track imhoSloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:38 pmI’ve definitely seen a more town version of sprityo than this. Why would he have killed mac?ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:35 pmHe’s playing as town as I’ve seen him imo. He was a lot more calculated in Retro and probably would have killed Mac N1 imho (sprit can weigh in on this of course). I just don’t see the argument for him.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:33 pmWhy not?ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:30 pmNah don’t vote sprityoTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:00 pm I do not think we should lynch Colin today. I think Jack is town. I’m working right now if you have questions on this I’ll try to answer before EOD.
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The fella I’m voting forSloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:39 pmSo who do you want to lynch?ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:37 pm I’m sorta waffling on my suspicion of Sloonei. I think I had it in 2 with sabie and Jack last round because his backing-off of the Sloonei-recruit-theory makes his support for it feel illegitimate
Would not vote:Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:25 pmGlor, can you update us on your readlist?Glorfindel wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:21 pmUnless, of course we were looking at dual Mafia wagons there. If Creature were ‘the Master’, surely that would explain a bus on Sabie?
I feel like the primary piece in this theory is sabie. And we know that sabie was bad. I do not buy this.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:40 pmMac is more of a thorn in his side than Epi. On a team with sabie having just been defended by Epi that kill doesn’t track imhoSloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:38 pmI’ve definitely seen a more town version of sprityo than this. Why would he have killed mac?ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:35 pmHe’s playing as town as I’ve seen him imo. He was a lot more calculated in Retro and probably would have killed Mac N1 imho (sprit can weigh in on this of course). I just don’t see the argument for him.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:33 pmWhy not?ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:30 pmNah don’t vote sprityoTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:00 pm I do not think we should lynch Colin today. I think Jack is town. I’m working right now if you have questions on this I’ll try to answer before EOD.
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Mac died?Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:38 pmI’ve definitely seen a more town version of sprityo than this. Why would he have killed mac?ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:35 pmHe’s playing as town as I’ve seen him imo. He was a lot more calculated in Retro and probably would have killed Mac N1 imho (sprit can weigh in on this of course). I just don’t see the argument for him.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:33 pmWhy not?ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:30 pmNah don’t vote sprityoTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:00 pm I do not think we should lynch Colin today. I think Jack is town. I’m working right now if you have questions on this I’ll try to answer before EOD.
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Convince me not vote for jackGlorfindel wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:45 pmWould not vote:Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:25 pmGlor, can you update us on your readlist?Glorfindel wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:21 pmUnless, of course we were looking at dual Mafia wagons there. If Creature were ‘the Master’, surely that would explain a bus on Sabie?
Sloonei
Don’t want to vote:
MacDougall
TonyStarkPrime
Oreki/birdwithteeth
ColinisCool
Could vote:
Crerature
Sprityo
JackofHearts
Incidentally, I feel icky about your “Would Sabie do ‘x’” defence and of anyone here, the difference in your posting today (the day the Townie converts to Mafia) is more stark compared to your previous day’s posts.
No. Colin is arguing that sprityo would have killed mac instead of Epi Night 1.Glorfindel wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:47 pmMac died?Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:38 pmI’ve definitely seen a more town version of sprityo than this. Why would he have killed mac?ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:35 pmHe’s playing as town as I’ve seen him imo. He was a lot more calculated in Retro and probably would have killed Mac N1 imho (sprit can weigh in on this of course). I just don’t see the argument for him.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:33 pmWhy not?ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:30 pmNah don’t vote sprityoTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:00 pm I do not think we should lynch Colin today. I think Jack is town. I’m working right now if you have questions on this I’ll try to answer before EOD.
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I’m 50/50 on it myself right now. My rationale is above. That, and I hate the thought of losing this game to him if he is Mafia.
Defending who?Glorfindel wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:45 pmWould not vote:Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:25 pmGlor, can you update us on your readlist?Glorfindel wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:21 pmUnless, of course we were looking at dual Mafia wagons there. If Creature were ‘the Master’, surely that would explain a bus on Sabie?
Sloonei
Don’t want to vote:
MacDougall
TonyStarkPrime
Oreki/birdwithteeth
ColinisCool
Could vote:
Crerature
Sprityo
JackofHearts
Incidentally, I feel icky about your “Would Sabie do ‘x’” defence and of anyone here, the difference in your posting today (the day the Townie converts to Mafia) is more stark compared to your previous day’s posts.
You.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:56 pmDefending who?Glorfindel wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:45 pmWould not vote:Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:25 pmGlor, can you update us on your readlist?Glorfindel wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:21 pmUnless, of course we were looking at dual Mafia wagons there. If Creature were ‘the Master’, surely that would explain a bus on Sabie?
Sloonei
Don’t want to vote:
MacDougall
TonyStarkPrime
Oreki/birdwithteeth
ColinisCool
Could vote:
Crerature
Sprityo
JackofHearts
Incidentally, I feel icky about your “Would Sabie do ‘x’” defence and of anyone here, the difference in your posting today (the day the Townie converts to Mafia) is more stark compared to your previous day’s posts.
Honestly, Glor. Do you think you'd be alive on D3 if I was mafia?Glorfindel wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:54 pm I hate the thought of losing this game to him if he is Mafia.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:10 pmSo this is why Sprityo is voting me. Cool cool.
Hey Sprityo. Why would Sabie put me at a tie D1 when she can self preserve instead of we're wolves together? I've solo won twice this year as a wolf. I'm not D1 bus material.
You can not like it all you want but it's the truth.Glorfindel wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:59 pmJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:10 pmSo this is why Sprityo is voting me. Cool cool.
Hey Sprityo. Why would Sabie put me at a tie D1 when she can self preserve instead of we're wolves together? I've solo won twice this year as a wolf. I'm not D1 bus material.